If I shredded a chick in a blender, I'd be called an animal abuser and people would call for me to be punished. But when egg farms dump thousands of chicks a day into an industrial shredder, it's perfectly legally and socially acceptable? Why are people such hypocrites when it comes to animal cruelty?
>>84163263cause I said so nigga
Confronted with these kinds of systematic atrocities, you either accept it blankly and rationalize it away as a fact of life, cope (shittily), or you take up an extremist position that requires a lot of effort and associates you with extremely annoying people and groups. It's not such a mystery why most people do what they do.
Humans are pretty delusional and they need to be to cope with their evil existences. If they weren't they end up as men like us
>>84163263i'm not a hypocrite this shit is legitimately evil.
>>84163263Why was this one in particular so clueless
the chicks are conerningly unconcerned with getting grinded on your video. I thus suggest you stop being concerned as wellbut you know this logic applies to human life as well. An individual killed is a tragedy, millions killed is a statistic
>>84163263Its because youre not shredding those chicks for money, if you magically made money from it then normalniggers would turn a blind eye, and probably even start doing it themselves!
>>84163263>Why aren't people aware of the water, its poisoned!>Why aren't people aware of fiat money, its debt!>Why aren't people aware of Admiralty law, its slavery!Many such cases, people don't want to hear it until its too late
>>84163263You say people, like normal people make the laws.It's greed, and the greedy ones are also adored by governments, so they are protected. They can, you can't. It's that simple.The really crazy thing is that this only exists because normal people accept it as reality.
>>84163263It's a little undignified, but at least it's instant.
>>84163263>missing the forest for the treesand what economic system of control incentivizes this cruelty? any guess?
>>84163489the technological one
>>84163486>you would rather just kill something haphazardly because of laziness then to let it live elsewhere in peaceCongratulations, you just proved how subhuman you are
>>84163499You think pre-modern people didn't eat eggs?
>>84163448I'll tell you more, it is even okay to shred humans for money if you are jewish
i've seen a few of these vegan documentaries that vegans use as propaganda. and yeah, farms are horrid. i don't want e.g. pigs packed like sardines in a tin developing disease. but we all sort of know that, and it's the INDUSTRY that's made farming this way (not the consumers).i think it'd be okay to grind up these chicks if they were gassed first:https://www.hsa.org.uk/gaseous-methods/gaseous-methodsthere's a reasonable middle ground between 'never kill or eat animals, ever' and 'do whatever you want, they're only animals'.
>>84163513What, just drop them off in a forest somewhere? Lmao, how is that any better?
>>84163519not with conveyor belts feeding massive quantities of chicks into industrial grinders all day. more like a dozen getting their skull smashed with a stone or getting their head chopped off now and then.>>84163513
>>84163513peace doesnt exist "elsewhere", all of those chicks would be getting chomped anyways. those animals developed to bear children so easily exactly to feed other creatures and draw attention away from the very few meant to survive
>>84163263Okay, what the fuck am I supposed to do about it?
>>84163524Why not send the to a petting zoo to be raised? You went to death like it was the first option
>>84163537So thousands of chicks getting their skulls smashed by a rock distributed across thousands of farms is better?
>>84163263This will be the life of the average male in 2050
>>84163554without a shred of doubt
>>84163263>>84163448it's for foodif you do it for no reason you're doing it solely because you enjoy killing
>>84163562>without a shred of doubtSo the problem isn't the killing but because it's a big corporation that's doing the killing?
>>84163542And again you're saying that like its the first option. If you believe life is monkey see monkey do you much rather throw shit at the next person that peeves you than to use your pre-frontal cortex to find rational resolutions. There's always a better way, and you didn't name any
>>84163548Who would pay for its food? You will pet three billions chicks?This is one extremely retarded part of veganism. No, animals do not deserve that we feed and provide them with shelter for free. Wed dont do this with our fellows humans, and thus shouldnt do it with creatures that are our potential competitors for natural resources. Animals deserve care and shelter exactly on the same basis as humans - when they provide value. Some animals are blessed to be able to do it without active work and genuinely they have it better than humans. For example sheep, egg chickens and milk cows. All other creatures on the planet actually toil and sweat for their food and shelter. So what if they dont live to their full potential? Humans can also live 120 years, but most (peasants) consider life beyond their 50 years annoying drudgery. I wonder, who would offer our, human, homeless a petting zoo? Are does one deserve care or not based solely on "cuteness"?
>>84163263This is the most satanic video i ever saw.
>>84163499So what are you upset by, the mass scale logistics of feeding people chicken or just the fact people have to kill to eat meat in general?
>>84163589Putting them in a petting zoo is retarded, and veganism is anti-human. The best solution is legitimately to vaporize them instantly.
>>84163263I'm sure there's a very good reason they have to do it.
>>84163589If you wouldnt offer this solution to other human beings, then it is dumb and not valid. Petting zoo is a fake imaginary solution. In reality the one who wants to live, has to also fight for it and face all the hardships and anxieties that living entails.its the first option because it is the natural option meant for all of those useless meat bags that don't contribute anything other than feeding the brains of smarter creatures. herbivores are meant to be eaten or they would destroy the natural world.
>>84163548Have you seen the way animals treat each other? We had chickens on the farm when I was growing up. They would peck your eyes out and eat you alive if they were bigger than you and feel nothing whatsoever. At least we have the intellect to make death instantaneous and not painful.
>>84163614Nice to know you solve conflicts this tacitly. But like I said, there are places that raise animals for that exact reason, that would make more sense than "vaporizing" them
>>84163570no, it's a question of scale, automatism, systematism, dignity, impersonality, detachment. humanity. indeed, machines constantly grinding up untold billions is fundamentally different from some farmers personally doing a handful of cullings in different places and times.
>>84163263It's not cruel to kill those chicks. They die instantly. Killing animals is not cruelty. Stop being dumb.
>>84163631>But like I said, there are places that raise animals for that exact reasonThere are rooster petting zoos that exist solely to prevent them from being slaughtered?
>>84163623Did you just say that like elephants are out there massacring scores of people? How'd you even come to that conclusion??
>>84163631those places raise at best 20 animals per type per institution. they simply cant afford more. every chicken can produce 20 copies of itself in a year. what will happen to them> sterilizeHave you considered that for an animals this is mayhaps worse than death? Procreation is their second strongest instinct. Procreation is the main and only thing animals can "desire" at all. They care more about procreation than longevity, comfort, safety et cetera. In fact in natural habitat they sacrifice it all just for a chance to procreate. You should care about their right to procreate before you care about any sort of animal dignity or safety
>>84163644i have no idea what you are talking about this is a fucking anonymous board you moronbut yeah elephants can and will kill you if you annoy them, luckily their size doesnt allow much spread
>>84163643No sharp shit. If there are animal protection group there are obviously animal nurseries for them
>>84163548i assumed these were animals bred and raised FOR slaughter.plus zoos (even petting zoos) can be pretty questionable. even if it's just a nice, friendly little mom-and-pop place, the hell are they going to do with thousands of chicks?
>>84163637Your concerns are arbitrary.
>>84163664not in any sense that couldn't apply to all concerns.
>>84163668Then from your point of view there's no point in arguing anything at all.
>>84163650It's still more sensible to find somewhere to house those chicks than to frivolously kill them
>>84163657What are you even babbling about here?
>>84163674depends on what you mean. this issue is more or less settled to me, but not everything is clear, and i don't actually value all concerns equally.
>>84163660The obvious solution would be to eat food that doesn't promote death
>>84163681If there are groups to help animals, why not send it to them?
>>84163678No, it is not sensible to house them at all. They do not deserve such sympathy and there is not enough houses for billions of farm raised chicks. It is sensible to house human, if you have so much extra money, way before chicks. Even niggers have higher personal value than chicks because at least they can drag boxes around. Chicks if they do not produce anything for humans, deserve absolutely nothing from us.
>>84163697What organization can afford to house and feed millions of roosters?
>>84163263it makes my soul shed a tear
It will never happen but the solution is easy. People should feed themselves. So much space is wasted and it's so easy to grow potatoes, rice, wheat, rye, barley sunflower... Chickens are easy too, you hardly have to feed them if the land isn't saturated with gliphosatan and insecticides. They say America has a food waste problem to distract everyone from the fact that nothing could be further from the truth. That's food that could go to swine, it's not a problem but a willful diversion to landfills instead of doing the obviously right thing. Drive into the big city and you'll see these ridiculous 2,000sqft cookie cutter carbon copy mansions lining every street for miles. The streets are lined with frankentrees designed to not produce fruit. Had they been dwarf or semi dwarf fruit trees instead that's 3-8 bushels of fruit per tree. Typical tree density in residential suburbs is ~138 per hectare, and in terms of canopy coverage this is extremely low. However, had they been fruit trees we're looking at a potential 2,500lbs of tree fruit per acre without even trying. Figure three houses per acre and that's 840lbs per house. Not quite enough to stop going to krogers or meijers but it will at least put a dent in things. Most herbs grow like weeds and are more than happy lining the edges of patios and footpaths.
>>84163263It happens behind closed doors where nobody can see, so people are okay with it. Animals die all the time, I've bike rode through too many road kill to count, I don't get upset about them dying.The line I draw is whether or not you are being sadistic, if you are purposefully hurting animals, then that's bad in my book.
>>84163263The problem is the Demiurge who gave us bodies that require meat to remain healthy. I don't like the nature of industrial food factories but they are a necessary evil to support the current population of humans. Everything preys on something here. As above, so below. We are preyed on by the archons as well for emotional energy.
>>84163263Cant we replace this with stemcel meat already?
>>84163888The amount of resources, such as water, it takes to raise a cow for meat is insanely high, many times the amount of resources it takes to raise the equivalent amount of calories of wheat or other plants foods.And to top it off, a huge amount of grain grown is then used to feed livestock. If all the land we used for raising meat was used to grow grain, vegetables, etc, we could feed the human population many, many times over with no issue. Meat is by far the least efficient, most wasteful food.
>>84163899In this case it wouldn't matter, since this footage is from an egg farm. The male chicks are killed because they can't produce eggs.
>>84163263Hop in yourself OP
>>84163925Cows eat grass. You can't grow wheat everywhere that grass can. Food scarcity is self correcting, people will just die if there's not enough food and they'll keep dying until the population is such that there is enough food. Literally nothing changes if the entirety of the human population in south america and africa were to suddenly vanish. There's a lot of flexing and stress our food system can safely tolerate. As for water, that stuff just falls out of the sky or bubbles up from the ground. As long as there's still sky and ground we don't have to worry about that.
>>84163563>its for foodTheyre shredding the male chicks with the eggshell waste, its waste that will get repurposed probably into some sort of vitamin or supplement. The female chicks are raised either for food or egg laying
>>84163704>>84163707There's literally bunch of organisation's that ar3 a Google search away. You faggots are just lazy, the same way that the sleeping masses keep themselves engaged by system thinking. Bleet somewhere else you dumb sheep
>>84164056There is no solution outside of dismantling this entire industrial capitalist system we live under. There is nothing else to do with a billion male chicks anon. And if we did dismantle it you would still have farmers killing their own chickens by slitting throats and chopping heads by the way. Traditionally human beings would make art about the animals they eat to thank them and honor their sacrifice. Their sacrifice is the giver of life and sustenance that allows human beings to flourish. This is unironically a better way to cope with death. Remember, in nature animals kill and eat each other alive.
>>84164107You're thinking backwards anon. Think about what you can do to prevent the chicks from being born not housing a billion chicks a day.
>>84163263because you would be doing it out of deranged sadism, they are doing it for profit
>>84164107Okay. Like I don't care if this exists or not, I'm not going to pay for it, though. Be the change you want to see.
>>84164118Nigga its a scale issue, people arent making their own food but they have to eat in mass hubs of millions of people who exist just to generate revenue that is subsidized by mass food production like this
>>84164132Yeah, I was just saying that in the event that there's already live chicks involved. Talking about chicks but its wrong ones, story of my life i guess
>>84164151So if someone payed me to blend a chick it would be fine? I'd be doing it for profit, after all.
animals don't give a shit, why should we?
>>84163263I have been anti-vegan my whole life and I think this just pushed me 60% towards the other side
>>84164344They blend the chickens because its the fastest humane(lol) kill for the cheapest price, I think the crunch happens so fast they dont have enough time to feel it
>>84163888>to support the current population of humansWhy do we need to have so many humans to begin with? 8 billion is already a fuckton, what point even is there in trying to raise that number every year?
>>84163263I don't get it what is this making? Chicken nuggets or something?
>>84163263Fake as fuck, that machine would get clogged after 5 seconds
I have never got this sort of argument, you know like when people talk about how they wouldnt eat meat if they had to kill the animal themselves. Why do you care? I could pretty easily snap a chickens neck, and i could carve a pig up if i had a decent blade. Cow might be too big for me though without a gun. Id kill it cook it then eat it. I really dont see how their is any difference in you vs a factory killing something. Hell i have killed and ate a pheasant that i stomped to death when i hit it with my car. It tasted fine, but still. I dont know i might be retarded and not getting the point.
Animals don't have morals and treat other creatures awfully. Humans are just following the golden rule and treating animals how they should be treated.
>>84164708>8 billion is already a fucktonIt's not, usa alone can accommodate 3 billion people.
>>84163263Same if you poluted a riverAre you just now realising that corporations regularly get away with doing things you cant?
>>84164715It's not making anything. Males aren't used for eggs or meat, so they're killed off as soon as they hatch.
>>84163263You shouldnt care about the killing of the chickens, what you should care about is the energy and waste created in this industry that will cause pollution to destroy third world countries, which inevitably leads to brown waves of refugees coming to live up here to survive
>>84164734Humpback whales save seals from Orca hunts. There is no reason for them to do this other than kindness.
>>84164741Yeah if you live like roaches in a box.People dont want to live like insects.
>>84163287>extremist position that requires a lot of effort>literally just have to reach for something else in the store
what do they even do with the shredded up chicks
>>84165297feed and fertilizer
>>84164718The mechanism that machine uses can shred plastic or tires if the torque is dialed in right. Chicklets ain't nothing.
>>84163263Money is no more than a measurement of value and usefulness. These chicks had no value, to the extent that the energy spent to shred them is the least costly solution to their existence. When AI makes 99% of humanity obsolete, you too shall be as that chick. And you'll care just as little as the chick does.
>>84163687>>84163687What's wrong with the death of an animal as a means to procure food?
>>84164779humpbacks do it to spite orcas
>>84165488You're causing avoidable suffrage. And its unnecessary because there's already an available food source
>>84165561>You're causing avoidable suffrageSo what? Its not a human. And life is about more than avoiding suffering. >And its unnecessary because there's already an available food sourceOne that tastes the same, and provides the same nutrients, for the same price, speed, and simplicity? No.
>>84163263I don't think most people know that, and even if it was known, are we all just supposed to stop to eat meat and spend our whole life eating boring food and grow sick?
>>84163263Hitler was vegetarian and created the most advanced animal rights at the time.
>>84163263A rando shredding a chick in a blender would most likely be doing it for fun, and the added layer of enjoying the act carries more social baggage than Big farm's mere apathy. Bad example.
