Is the reason why no one is dating anymore because it has become socially unacceptable to be persistent with women that you like?It used to be that if you liked a woman and she said no, you would keep going after her and wear her down until she said yes. Nowadays it feels like that's considered harassment and you're only supposed to ask women out after you have already been sleeping with them after THEY go after you. Picrel related: He would have never gotten with her if he stopped asking her out after he got stood up in the rain.
>>84213160Chasing a girl is a one way ticket to a dead bedroom
Most people are still dating and it's only considered harassment these days because the moment a woman says no they get immediately insulted by the shit men.
>>84213160The rules of sexual conduct are changing every day
>>84213160Times were different back then, women had little options.
people consider 'you added me on Twitter' to be harassment, so god knows what it means any more. i think we all generally understand what actual criminal harassment is like.that said, the 'chasing' thing is more of a cliche in Hollywood/fiction. if you go into the same coffee shop and ask the barista out every day, maybe it becomes a running joke, but if she's said no 50 times, why would #51 be a yes? that shit's just playing games.
>>84213160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnHUMrKLKPQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU8UPyhyG4Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE_KHjE00JM
>>84213176Was probably for the best. By the end of the movie they ended up being together and were close but it was only because the boy actually went after her.>>84213166In the olden days that wasn't an issue because the idea of a woman "consenting" in marriage was retarded. She was yours so you just took her whenever you wanted and she couldn't say no. Sure she may have cheated on you on the side but you at least got yours.>>84213171It's also because nowadays women go after the men they actually like. I remember in grad school almost all the relationships that lasted for any length of time were from the woman going after the man.
>>84213171who is 'most people'?Gen z has completely checked out of dating or being in relationships. Just because they fuck doesn't mean they settle for one another.
>>84213160The reason young men aren't dating as much is that physical attraction and hypergamy has made the top percentage of men vastly more desired than the bottom majority of men. This is a result of changing societal standards and dating apps, etc. It's as simple as that.
>>84213209Most peopleStats show it's still like on 30% or so, that's a minority.
>>84213217This is actually a good thing because only the men that have stable jobs and careers will be able to get whatever foid they want.
>>84213231Okay but boomers and milennials are infertile, look at the age cohorts that are fertile and look at their rates of relationships. This country is getting older and older by the year and there is no end in sight. The third world will replace all of the people not having children.
>>84213160its because foids and undateable. nobody wants a man-hating used up cumumpster as a partner
>>84213233Do you live under a fucking rock,?The guys who work towards getting a stable job and career aren't the ones getting picked.That was the case when fathers had a say in who their daughters marry.Nowadays, foids just go for whoever is the most attractive guy they can find.It doesn't matter if he's a low IQ bum or not.
>>84213233You must be on crack because that isn't true at all. The top percentage of men ranked by LOOKS, aka height, face, hair, are chosen, not the top percentage of men ranked by money, status, stability, personality, etc. That is the point I was trying to get across.
>>84213251this is still a good thing. A resourceful man can still just pick the best foid he can possibly get given his circumstances.
>>84213251Proof that college educated men don't eventually marry?
>>84213198>In the olden days that wasn't an issue because the idea of a woman "consenting" in marriage was retarded. She was yours so you just took her whenever you wanted and she couldn't say no.This.Just reminder that marital rape laws came into existence just in 70-80 s.
>>84213269He has none.
>>84213160No. No one is dating anymore because dating is the preamble to marriage.
>>84213269They eventually marry used up slags who won't love them and lead to dead bedrooms and cheating 9/10 times. Not sure why you are focusing on marriage instead of actual commitment, since these two haven't meant the same for a long while now.
>>84213160Well the over all rate of marriage is declining
even the ones that do date seem miserable because almost none of their relationships last more than a couple months. men and women cant relate to each other much anymore and i think the only thing people want is sex and once that gets boring they look for someone new
>>84213335Marriage is such a meme nowadays, more people are cohabiting. Merriage is a commitment and a waste of money.
chasing women is gay when theyre all whores for other men but will create rules for you. Im a virgin man and deserve a virgin woman and will not settle for anything less and why should I? virginity is a sign that youre not weak to jewish mind tricks and people with high body counts are goy who watch niggerball the most
You're the only one dating. You and the dicklet right wing faggots on this website. Everyone else is out there fucking and having fun because they aren't hateful white supremacists with tiny porn addicted dicks
>>84213354SURELY it's because you are just too resilient to jewish mind tricks and not because no foid wants to fuck you.This cope is so lame. If you were in the same position as a foid, you'd hop from one sexual encounter to the next without even thinking, bitch.
>>84213160OP, that's a cartoon. That didn't happen IRL.
>>84213393no I wouldnt whore and way to expose yourself there. not everyone is as coombrained as you whores. I just want a wife and marriage and to start a family, which is a wild concept in 2026 because jews have brainwashed you all because porn melted your brain
my boomer mom talks about this a lot. how in her day it was perfectly acceptable for a man to keep asking after being rejected several times. says quite a few happy marriages resulted from the women eventually caving and saying yeswe truly live in the worst time line
>>84213424Well duh, you seen the attractiveness scale women have for men? What if you as 7 got approached by women that are 3-5 to you?
>>84213415Your insincerity won't change that fact. The way you think is due to your inability to cash in on how things work in this day and age. If you were an attractive guy or girl, you wouldn't be le heckin tradcath on 4chinz who bemoans foids promiscuous behavior.
>>84213450my inability to cash in on a girlfriend will be normoids fault. Im hoping the fuel crisis spreads to america. oh its going to be fucking glorious if that happens.
>>84213477>Im hoping the fuel crisis spreads to america. oh its going to be fucking glorious if that happens.You and me both. On that front, we can agree.
>>84213160the black pill broke the minds of a generation of men because it gave them insight into female nature that would otherwise have been reserved for middle aged men going through divorces or terrible menopausal wifes. the internet opened the floodgates to how wretched and repulsive human, and especially female nature is, and the collective reaction has been to just check out
>>84213526>the internet opened the floodgates to how wretched and repulsive human, and especially female nature isThis is also accelerated by foids having too many options and pretty much no restrictions. Feminism did a number on society from which it won't recover for a while.
>>84213160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tGWlK0pPA0
>>84213197close but it was only because the boy actually went after her.>>>84213166In the olden days that wasn't an issue because the idea of a woman "consenting" in marriage was retarded. She was yours so you just took her whenever you wanted and she couldn't say no. Sure she may have cheated on you on the side but you at least got yours.>>>84213171It's pretty much true though, all my female friends say that if they saw a guy they liked in a social setting THEY went after him heavy, asked him for the number and arranged a "date". The whole guy wanting to be official almost never happens from his part she initiates it. Basically if at baseline the woman doesn't crave you the relationship is doomed to fail.I also think that guys don't constantly ask the same women out nowadays because they know all those women are having sex with a guy that doesn't text them back.
>>84213209True, lots of women on Tiktok say they've never been in a relationship into their 20s but none of them say they're virgins.
>>84213233>stable jobs and careersThis is cope. The badboy drug dealer gets more women than some IT dork making 100k a year. I know a fair amount of men that are in dental school, law school, and even medical school and they struggle with women and dating and half of them are decent looking.The thing is nowadays women don't really NEED a man's money, especially now that many of them have Jewish Daycare jobs. They really just need a man that fulfills their hedonistic desires and that's only a few men at most.
>>84213327Half of marriages lead to divorce and most people that are married aren't happy but everyone on Twitter keeps on saying that people that aren't married are wasting their lives.
>>84213335It would likely be over 50% for Gen Z and Millennials if you included the number that have ever cohabitated with someone. That's basically what marriage is in 2026. Most people aren't getting a ceremony and only do it because someone's mother wants the ceremony.
>>84213477It is cope because if you were desirable you would already have a wife. Even if you don't believe in sleeping around, why couldn't you date and marry one of the few decent women around when you were younger? Some people did get married young, so why wasn't it you?
>>84213424Is part of that because women didn't have a million options so she would eventually give in to the one option that was really after her?
Reading this thread and damn im deep in enemy territory.
>>84214448What do you mean by this? Like too many people against asking them out repeatedly
>>84213160>Is the reason why no one is dating anymore because it has become socially unacceptable to be persistent with women that you like?No. Most guys have rightfully dismissed that approach cause it's the most simpy/pathetic shit you can do as a non-chad. Blackpill has given everyone the insight on how women react when approached by fuckboys, so what's the point in playing beta orbiter? It's pathetic.When a woman rejects you, that's it. Not because you can't salvage it. It's just not worth your dignity, time, or effort.
>>84213160Nowadays being NotCHAD and approaching a woman ONCE is considered harassment even though that doesn't make sense since it's supposed to be a pattern, or persistence as you've put it. Almost all women are garbage people and you can see this pattern of roasties posting about "natural selection" now.
>>84213264No, all they can do is betabux and hope they don't get cucked or divorce raped>>84213345In some countries you get "common law marriage" where they can still steal your shit if you live with them long enough.
>>84214535Thread is about how 4channers hate women and how they believe women are retarded and that we are the reason society is imploding (and im a woman)
>>84213171Not true, it's just that most of the time the women sends mixed signals because they like the attention from being chased but don't actually want to be with the guy so the deliberately lead him on.Women by and large are the opposite of autistic men and know EXACTLY what they're doing but are amazing at gaslighting and playing dumb and men buy into it because of their egos.
>>84215054Telling you no is not a mixed signal
>>84214832Why do you think that is? What life experiences do you think these men had to think this way? Is there anything a lot of women are doing to push this idea? What are some things women can do to combat these things?
>>84215113They hardly ever say "no" directly. They'll either just leave you on read, ghost you, make up an excuse etc. You then have to "read in between the lines" and realize she's rejecting you, but most women very rarely will outright reject you.The closest you'll get is them saying they have a boyfriend.>>84214714Thats why you buy them an apartment and just visit them as needed.
a bunch of hyperbolic comments here, i'm curious are there any actual fembots who could offer their input because it feels like an echo chamber with the occasional ragebaiting
>>84213449we should have a filter for every gay retard who reposts this old cliched and irrelevant data with a horrible sample size like come on bruh up the effort a bit
>>84214448>>84214832Hey just so you know you're not the only one who is nauseated by the comments on here (not a woman though)It's good for us to realise they come from a place of fear and pain and manipulation though (as much as they will instead claim they are "seeing through the matrix" or some bullshit)I *AM* genuinely curious what you think about the OP where it was implied that seeking and yearning after a girl for a long time is no longer valued like it once was... What are your thoughts on that? How do you feel about being "chased" after?
>>84215153Wrong.I've been, preemptively even, outright rejected on multiple occasions, even by women who I had zero intention of asking out or anything, "just to make sure".Guess maybe that's your Chad privilege speaking lol.
>>84213160I can't date because I'm poor and women do not dare poor, fat, broke, short, bald, old men like me.
>>84214242because Im unattractive to 99% of foids and they are disgusted by my personality. foids would rather throw their life away and make half mutant alien babies with browns then date their own racial men
>>84215230>What are your thoughts on that?I absolutely agree with him desu. We have made it unsafe for people to be vulnerable or show desire, hence why we are so robotic and unnatural with the way we approach people. I myself like to admire people but I dont want to be seen as a weirdo.>How do you feel about being "chased" after?Would be cool desu. Its never happened to me. I am a very guarded person however and I stopped talking to people who i thought were cute after 15 I want someone to want me, and i want to desire them too, but I am insecure and scared that its all fake and that I'll be taken advantage of. I want to be wanted, and I want to reciprocate. But honestly I have been told and shown all my life that men cheat. My dad cheated on my mom, and got a kid. In alot of spaces for women there is alot of fear around men cheating. I get it, its common that men cheat statistically speaking. I dont see myself as a worthwhile person, so I dont get why anyone would stick around with me. Hence why I keep my guard up. There are women so so much more beautiful than me that get cheated on. I got no chance. I would love to be reassured by being chased, like I know that they actually want me. Thats probably why I play stalker dating sims. I KNOW they want me. But in real life, people can always have a change of heart.
>>84215203Fembots aren't going to give you good advice. If anything low tier normies that have been in a relationship with a sub5 female will give you better advice than some foid that will just talk down on you to feel better about yourself instead of telling it to you straight.
>>84215115Because modern society seeks to strip us of community to then sell it as a commodity. Our basic needs are being taken away from us. Its not womens fault, nor is it mens. Its a fundamental flaw in our system where people try to squeeze money from anything they can. Hostility sells. Peace doesn't. Loneliness sells. Companionship doesn't. Because there are things that aren't supposed to break, they last til death do us part. Anything that last means looking money. The hivemind didnt just pop out of nowhere. Part of it came from necessity, like fighting for womens agency and opportunities. Then is spiraled into meaningless hur dur politics. Partially because of the leftist academia hive mind, but also because IT SELLS. Isolation sells. War sells. Problems need fixes, but giving a lasting fix means loosing an opportunity for money and power. Ah yes let's give the people quick fixes. Honesty dont sell. Lies do. The fabric of everything that is good an gracious is being ripped apart. And its everybody and nobody's fault at the same time.
>>84213198>I remember in grad school almost all the relationships that lasted for any length of time were from the woman going after the man.This is true and it's why I don't approach women. If she's not chasing you, it's not going to work out.
>>84213176>women had little optionsThe number of options may have increased but as a whole women had different options, now they all go for the some minority of men. And the retarded feminism made women hallucinate they are all brilliant geniuses who are 10s. Now we are seeing seas of 40 year old single women with a nervous breakdown or women marrying to the men they believe they are settling so they turn their husbands life to hell. Women are in a worse situation even after all their undeserved gains in society.
>>84213393What turns someone into such a gutless simp?
>>84215203>>84215919What kind of advice are you seeking help with? Not a fembot but dated a rather average looking one.
>>84213160I'm dating, been dating for - going-on 5 years now. And I pursued her, because we were already dating but she wasn't ready for a relationship so I convinced her to say "Yes" to being my GF. She thanks me to this day that I didn't give up. I wasn't going to until she showed she wasn't interested, instead of showing she was just afraid to commit. I've convinced her of other things as well:>That she isn't trans.>That she doesn't actually like girls.>That she actually prefers short men (like me).>That trannies, jews, and jeets are annoying.Just standard de-programming really. Women don't really know what they want, they live life on "Auto" and they seek out good influences which will guide their decisions. I believe that the only way to find the perfect woman is to find close-to-perfect and groom her to the rest of the way. There's a reason a man is called the Groom, and women absolutely hate Grooming and Age Gap Relationships. It's like a little kid hating their curfew, they want guidance, but fear the idea they might be giving up control to someone who can't be trusted. Every woman wants a dominant man who can be trusted with that role.