Now, I am no troon, but the idea of one day waking up as a cute girl does sounds exciting for some reason.
>>84215610I am also like this.
Sometimes I wonder what I'd do if I woke up as a cute guy.I'd probably rope after the novelty drove me to deathgrip, but it's natural to be curious about half the population's experiences in life.
I don't blame women for being attention seeking whores anymore. If I was one of them I'd do the same.
>>84215631>Killing yourself over a memeI've been "deathgripping" from age 8 to 24, that's when I lost my V-Card to my ex.We literally fucked for hours on end, multiple rounds (I'm talking 3 to 12+ rounds in the span of one to 8 hours). There's been like 5, maybe 10 minutes of pause in between.No ED, no sensational issues, nothing.So please don't say retarded shidd like that girl. If you would want to KYS as a guy, there'd be a billion better reasons to do so, but those are all also fake and gay. Never kill yourself. Ever.
>>84215610I dunno I'd probably just play with my boobs I would still be me
>>84215661That was just the first, easiest way I could think of for me to ruin the experience for myself and it was also less political than saying I'm too much of a pussy to deal with socializing as a dude.What if I killed myself like a woman as a guy to fuck with statistics?Would you say 'deathgrip' increased your sexual endurance? Please describe a bit more.
>>84215661Stop talking about your sexual life in front of the incels.
>>84215662I'd play with my boobs AND my pussy!(Or my girlcock. No big deal)
>>84215631yeah, before this invasion of deluded men with wigs the idea of genderbending or bodyswapping was just a fun fetish
>>84215690Fantasize all you want. Trans people aren't stopping you
>>84215610>become first class citizen>have non-mutilated genitalia and sex that feels like how God intended it to feel>have your life purpose and most fulfilling personal endeavor loaded up into your body off-rip (a womb)>birthing children has zero risk in the modern day, plus you get hooked up to pleasure machines while it's happening>an ocean of simps will literally carry you like you are royalty, men available in inexhaustible quantity ready to literally die a slow torturous death for your mere convenience >cushy AC office/sales/hiring manager job guaranteed, if you even desire a job>despite being an equal half to the male population, you basically don't pay any taxes>despite being an equal say in the voting of your country, you can vote on things with zero sense of self-preservation as you are protected from warBeing a woman would be like a quiet, leisurely afternoon during a childhood memory of summer break, just sitting around outside, amusing yourself with toys and novels. There's no risk to anything. Nothing will ever change for you. Everyone loves you and gives you the benefit of the doubt for everything always.
>>84215678>Fist of the North Star enjoyerMarry me unironically.>That was just the first, easiest way I could think of for me to ruin the experience for myself Lol, there's easier ways to ruin your experience as a guy.>and it was also less political than saying I'm too much of a pussy to deal with socializing as a dude.That's only a problem if you're below 8/10 due to how people react. Which I sometimes am, sometimes not.If you're below 7/10, stay with the nerds you'll be their leader.>What if I killed myself like a woman as a guy to fuck with statistics?Like taking meds? Still happens, you'd be an outlier but nothing out of the ordinary.>Would you say 'deathgrip' increased your sexual endurance? Please describe a bit more.I'd love to, luv, but >>84215683 is making me feel bad for talking about it :(Short: No it didn't, having sex did. I could go on.
>>84215713Yeah they do, the smut is now tainted by this worthless talk just like the homosexual spam plague that we have here.Troons belong in body bags, everything they touch they ruin with their disease.
>>84215751Only if you're cool with a lavender marriage.How would you suggest I ruin my experience, barring anything actually illegal? Just be a less feminine version of myself would probably get the job done, huh?I lucked out with genetics, if that transferred with me I could be King-Queen of the local nerds. I'd rule with wisdom and kindness, encouraging my new brothers with advice on how women socialize differently, taking them on field trips to get them more acclimated to being out in public, and offering emotional support as I would a female friend. And I'd get to compliment dudes and have not have them think I wanna marry them, or have them avoid me if they do think that's the case.Pishposh with that sour-grapes fox! Gimme details! Where in your body does the feeling that you're going to cum begin, and how does it spread?
If trooning weren't so complicated with unknown results, I'd troon.I'm already a fag. Becoming a cuter fag that looks girly would be an upgrade.
If I were a woman I'd have no problems in life. Just marry the first rich guy who wants to fund my lifestyle with nothing expected in return. I just want to not work and have good food and not be homeless.
>>84215807>Only if you're cool with a lavender marriage. Oh. Sorry, wasn't aware. Technically yes, but I'm straight so idk if that would put you off.>How would you suggest I ruin my experience, barring anything actually illegal? so you couldn't exactly speedrun that.Want to instantly ruin your life? Talk to underage people, if you're not related to then, you're pretty much toast instantly. Technically not illegal, used to be the most normal thing, yet after 20 years of moral panic you have to walk around with blinders when children are near even if you're a 12/10 gigachad. You'll be irredeemable.>Just be a less feminine version of myself would probably get the job done, huh?>I lucked out with genetics, if that transferred with me I could be King-Queen of the local nerds. I'd rule with wisdom and kindness, encouraging my new brothers with advice on how women socialize differently, taking them on field trips to get them more acclimated to being out in public, and offering emotional support as I would a female friend.Sounds funny and surely would be in a non-pozzed world, but if you would go on a field trip with nerds to "study" women you'd be spending the rest of the day and a night in jail pretty fast.>And I'd get to compliment dudes and have not have them think I wanna marry them, or have them avoid me if they do think that's the case.A faggot is what you'd be, not to be rude, just being real.Cont in next reply.
>>84215807>>84215870Cont.>Pishposh with that sour-grapes fox! Gimme details!Here's what I cut out earlier when you asked if deathgrip increased my endurance, I'll just paste it verbatim:No, having sex did. During my first time I came within 40 seconds, hard to say how long it really was, it was kind of awkward anyways because it wasn't supposed to happen in the first place, me losing my V-card was an accident.Anyways, the more sex I had, the better my endurance became. First a few minutes, then tens, and then hours of straight penetration.Here's the thing though, my first round in a session is almost always over within 5 minutes, the second session takes 10 to 20 minutes before I cum, but after that all bets are off, I literally cannot cum anymore and I stay hard until arousal ends, the limiting factor used to be my ex. Our record was 183 minutes of hard penetration, which reminds me, happened on the backseat of my car and we broke my fuckass rear suspension and axle lmao.>Where in your body does the feeling that you're going to cum begin, and how does it spread?Signal starts with overstimulation at my glans, then spikes at the base of my back, wanders to my tighs and my balls, they dock to my body and it slowly moves to my glans again. If the sensation "touches" my glans, the sensation floods my entire body, I climax, start shooting and ask questions later. If you're (un)lucky, that's ballsdeep inside you and I shoot right through your cervix into your uterus.
>>84215870I don't mind straight guys as long as they bro-zone me.I dunno, man. I hated myself for not being straight all my life, so I did have issues with 'Acknowledging children makes you a predatory lez' until recently. I even cried my way into a PE exemption as a kid because I felt like a creep despite not even being attracted to any classmates. ShitsuxOh no, I'd be taking my squad out for activities where there's lots of people and subtly get them used to interacting with women through innocuous stuff, like asking them to go order our fries if the cashier is a lady or something. Slow but steady!But guys rarely get complimented because women are scared they'll take it the wrong way and that's sad. I wanna tell my nerdlings when their new haircuts are cool.>>84215945How was it an accident?Have you ever had a dry orgasm, are those real? Damn! You fucked a car into submission!It's just interesting when people describe orgasms, to me. Not sure I've really had one.
>>84216028>I don't mind straight guys as long as they bro-zone me.Let's stay that way then, I have a few enbie and lesbian friends already.>I dunno, man. I hated myself for not being straight all my lifeDon't beat yourself up over it. I've been in dark places because a girl I was so devastatingly, deeply in love with turned out to be lesbian and told me so moments before I waa to confess. Didn't tell her, not her burden.>Shitsux Yeah :/>Oh no, I'd be taking my squad out for activities where there's lots of people and subtly get them used to interacting with women through innocuous stuff, like asking them to go order our fries if the cashier is a lady or something. Slow but steady!How to get a restraining order rq 101.I'm literally the guy you think you'd be. Nerds either stare and don't know what to do even if you tell them OR they completely ignore women.>But guys rarely get complimented because women are scared they'll take it the wrong way and that's sad.Dunno why, but there's an institutional interest in making any but the most hard-ass friendships between men homosexual. Men used to compliment each other all the time until pop culture made that gay while being gay was still stigmatized. The latter got mostly overturned, but the former didn't revert back.Funnily, in Muslim or SEA Countries, the straightest guys will hold hands or walk with elbows in arms because they didn't have that cultural gaying event.>I wanna tell my nerdlings when their new haircuts are cool. Just do it. I mean, like now, as a girl. But tell them upfront that you're not interested in a relationship with dudes. Maybe not the first thing you tell, but make it clear early.If they fly off the handle, they weren't friends, they were waiting for their turn.Please don't do to them what my ultimate crush did to me lmao.Cont in next post.
>>84216028>>84216109Cont.>How was it an accident?She lured me into her home after a nice evening and night drive. Wasn't a date, we went window shopping and drove up a local mountain afterwards, had some deeptalk there.Asked me if I would like to try some food she prepared for a mutual friend and I said yes because I had to pee real hard.After eating, we sat down on her couch to talk a little, one thing happened after another, after a while she was sitting on top of me (we were both still clothed) and kissing me. She took her top off, turned off the lights and started talking in Italian to me with her Sicilian accent. Some time later I fell asleep and when I woke up I felt cold because she had stripped us both butt naked but our underwear. Kept cuddling me and moved off of me, pulled me, I followed, laid on top her, kissing and after a while she turned around to lay on her back, tomd me that she wanted to feel a strong man laying on her and after a while I ... erm ... accidentally slid into her prone bone style because the lights were off and the shutters closed. She gasped for air, I panicked, asked her if I should pull out but she said "No, go deeper" which I did, a few seconds and pumps later she started moaning which made me shoot my load deep into her. Not ballsdeep, but deep enough for her to worry for weeks even after taking plan B because she was ovulating that night.>Have you ever had a dry orgasm, are those real?No. Probably because my sex-ed teacher said so. But then again, "balls dropped" is a meme to me, I was born with both balls in my scrotum and never had that experience as a boy where your body drops them when you reach sexual maturity (or rather the capacity to produce viable swimmers).>Damn! You fucked a car into submission!KEK with a hard K. I still have that car, I won't ever sell it.>It's just interesting when people describe orgasms, to me. Not sure I've really had one.Why do you think so if I may ask?
>>84216109God, that's rough. That's kind of you to put her feelings first, then. You sound like you feel deeply. That's a rare, special quality. Someday, someone will see that and appreciate you for it. I can tell.I've been in dark places over my oneitis. Miss her. One must imagine Her happy.So, from what I gather, most women suddenly put in a dude's body would earn a criminal record in record time and guys in a woman's body would look like female hyenas by the time they decided to give the clit a rest?Why is that so, do you think? Who benefits from dudes being afraid to even bro-grab hug? It always saddens me how men are socialized to censor themselves like that. I didn't realize that's how male friendships in Muslim cultures are. Hopefully they, at least, aren't changed in that aspect.>If they fly off the handle, they weren't friends, they were waiting for their turn.Ha, yeah, I know. Women always get kicked from the table first. Society, man.I just don't know how to bring it up easily anymore. I don't want to come across like Bluehair Pronouns but like. Fuck, man. Living like a warning label's tiring.>>84216202Dang. You lucky dog... And you sure as fuck better keep that car!I've never had period cramps, myself. I have all the other lame shit with periods, hormonal acne and the discomfort of the discharge but no cramps. Everyone's weird somehow according to most books on puberty imoI get overstimulated very easily, I have to stop before my mind blanks or I feel anything in my spine... I just try to get my mind off it if I get horny at this point.
>>84215610Life would be so much better and simpler. You'd have to be lying not to be excited to finally live.
>>84216444>God, that's rough. That's kind of you to put her feelings first, then. You sound like you feel deeply. That's a rare, special quality. Someday, someone will see that and appreciate you for it. I can tell.Kinda. But it hasn't helped me yet.>I've been in dark places over my oneitis. Miss her. One must imagine Her happy.Oof. Same above back to you, right in the feels.>So, from what I gather, most women suddenly put in a dude's body would earn a criminal record in record time and guys in a woman's body would look like female hyenas by the time they decided to give the clit a rest?Correct lmao>Why is that so, do you think? Who benefits from dudes being afraid to even bro-grab hug?Anyone in power. Weak and demoralized men cannot protect society against exploitation.>It always saddens me how men are socialized to censor themselves like that. I didn't realize that's how male friendships in Muslim cultures are. Hopefully they, at least, aren't changed in that aspect. No offense but this reads ChatGPT like lol.>Ha, yeah, I know. Women always get kicked from the table first. Society, man.I try to do my share, but the rest is what it is.>I just don't know how to bring it up easily anymore. I don't want to come across like Bluehair Pronouns but like. Fuck, man. Living like a warning label's tiring. Happens.>Dang. You lucky dog... And you sure as fuck better keep that car!Lucky my ass, the repair cost me close to a thousand yuros. But I'll keep the car.>I've never had period cramps, myself. I have all the other lame shit with periods, hormonal acne and the discomfort of the discharge but no cramps. If you don't got any cramps, be happy. My ex would rip my head clean off if I breathed wrong during her cramps lmao.>Everyone's weird somehow according to most books on puberty imoHow old are you?Cont.
>>84216444 forgot to CHECK THESE TRIPS OMFG>>84216521Cont.>I get overstimulated very easily, I have to stop before my mind blanks or I feel anything in my spine... I just try to get my mind off it if I get horny at this point.You have to let go in the moment and allow yourself to fall, i.e. feel safe and at ease. Pretty hard to pull off if you're not with someone you would trust you life with.At least from what my Ex told me.Anyways, I need to get some sleep. Don't know if the thread will still be up by the time I get up.Here's a link if you want to reach out:https://smp15.simplex.im/a#yJEFuB5CowHTyh78LNmda3C-H9kJd0a_eoXYM1KDuTEOr just scan the QR code in my pic rel.
>>84216521We can't let go of hope that whatever makes us special will make us loveable to the right person. I can't.I have fantasies where she stops by, and whisks me away so we can live somewhere else and we have a shared art studio and relearn who the other is. And we find out we were both hurt so badly apart, but we can heal next to each other and yakyakyak.How would a man defend society? Like, if nothing had happened what would you and other men protect us from? I'm actually curious, a lot of stuff that has this perspective is a bit antagonistic in tone and it's nice just talking to a normal person about stuff I don't have any context to understand.I'm normally pretty offline and away from people, along with being an elitist against AI slop. I just tend to slip into therapy-speak because I did talk therapy so long. I'd rather sound AI than be as bad at articulating my feelings as I used to be tho>tfw if I shot my car the way you did I'd have to go to mummy for money and honestly weigh whether her thinking I tried death by tree again or got fucked in the car is betterEugh.I am happy for that biological quirk. But I also get PMDD so I actually want to kill myself so l guess that's how I'm nerfed.31. Yeah, I know.
>>84216555>You have to let go in the moment and allow yourself to fall, i.e. feel safe and at ease.Ah. That'd explain it. Maybe someday, for me.Thank you. I might not reach out just because this is pretty out of my comfort zone as is... I'm mentally pretty fucked, paranoia-wise. But it is a me problem, and I appreciate you giving me the option to reach out.Sweet dreams, Anon. You deserve nice dreams.
>>84216581>>84216598>We can't let go of hope that whatever makes us special will make us loveable to the right person. I can't.Then don't let go of hope.>I have fantasies where she stops by, and whisks me away so we can live somewhere else and we have a shared art studio and relearn who the other is. And we find out we were both hurt so badly apart, but we can heal next to each other and yakyakyak.Shiet, you make me miss my oneitis.>How would a man defend society? Like, if nothing had happened what would you and other men protect us from? I'm actually curious, a lot of stuff that has this perspective is a bit antagonistic in tone and it's nice just talking to a normal person about stuff I don't have any context to understand.Basically the plot of Neon Genesis Evangelion but without the cool stuff but more of the shadowy stuff and corpos. Now I've got it: Cyberpunk 2077? That's where we're headed without strong men.>I'm normally pretty offline and away from people, along with being an elitist against AI slop. [...]>I'd rather sound AI than be as bad at articulating my feelings as I used to be tho Gotcha. Not fond of AI Slop myself, though I like the idea of AI as seen in 90's Star Trek.>>tfw if I shot my car the way you did I'd have to go to mummy for money and honestly weigh whether her thinking I tried death by tree again or got fucked in the car is better >Eugh. Sorry but I'm keking so hard right now. What would your mom say and think if you got fucked that hard in your car?>I am happy for that biological quirk. But I also get PMDD so I actually want to kill myself so l guess that's how I'm nerfed.Shit, sorry to hear. But please don't kill yourself. Ever. Please.>31. Yeah, I know.Don't worry, I'm not too far behind.t. 28 yo>Ah. That'd explain it. Maybe someday, for me. It'll happen. I'm sure of it. You could try the showerhead in a bathtub, cause you can relax in there pretty easily.Cont.
>>84216581>>84216598>>84216646Cont.>Thank you. I might not reach out just because this is pretty out of my comfort zone as is...It's alright. Though you have made me very curious as to who you are. But as much as I know myself, I'd probably want to break my rear axle with your help again lmao.Sorry for just blurting that out, I'm weird sometimes.>I'm mentally pretty fucked, paranoia-wise. But it is a me problemSame same. There's a reason I gave you a simpleX link and not a discord nick or something else. Extremely hard to track down. I'd give you something else there.>I appreciate you giving me the option to reach out.Sure thing, don't feel pressured to do anything, that link is pretty permanent, at least until I'm married sometime in the future lmao.>Sweet dreams, Anon. You deserve nice dreams.Thanks, you too.
