>read foid book about incels (Men Who Hate Women)>she handwaves away the existence of ethnicels and says they aren't real in the first few chapters to paint incels as neo-nazi white supremacist chudswhy are women like this?
>>84215968The incel community is simultaneously extremely racist and very diverse.
im convinced at this point the women who spend a lot of time in incel type communities have some type of fetish for them. theyll never admit it to themselves or anyone else though. theyre like the woman version of captain save a hoe
1. men who hate women was released in 2020 which means she wrote it based on information prior so no it is not going to have 2026 ethnic demographic information especially not at the hyperspeed internet culture mutates, the new age of sexism by her about ai beign used for misogyny came out in september 2025 and is more up to date 2. she doesnt say ethnicels dont exist your literal screenshot shows her saying the racial categories of incels are used by white incels to differentiate which means to her and everyone else using them that incel by default is still white and since she is a feminist she will say it follows that they are white supremacist 3. why are you reading thisif you want to circlejerk over how 4chan broke the internet kill all normies and it came from something awful are right there
>>84215968Gotta stick to the narrative. She wouldn't wanna seem like she was criticizing minorities, and we can't have nuance in our society's boogeymen. That'd just be confusing for a morally upright anti-racist white woman!
>>84215968Is she going to put the part where empirical, scientific data clearly shows the ethnicel thing is true?
>>84216203She literally says it's a small community and that it's actually white chud incels spreading the terms as if indians themselves dont refer to themselves as curries lol
>>84216142there were female sociologists and anthropologists deeply immersed in anonymous and s00per l33t h@xx0r communities already speaking openly about the research papers they had written on this in 2011 at conventions on internet culture where moot and girlvinyl of encyclopedia dramatica are both present. and everyone openly shits on 4chan with him in the room which is kind of hilarious. the fuck do you mean 4chan ruined ed sherrod. the site you made for livejournal gossip and categorizing drama? 4chan ruined the wonderful spotless morality of that place? this would be during her ohinternet corporate cleanup pivot and before moots canvas one so it makes sense but the open hostility and arrogance of everyone in that very long filmed series of multi-hour talks (it is on vimeo and he apparently discusses deleting /r9k/ on it in comparison to sherrod nuking ed and this is what he said changed his mind about bringing it back as it was an unfair unilateral mootocratic decision from top-down based on his own personal feelings and impulses rather than what the userbase wanted. given the epstein papers you can judge the likelihood of this being bullshit yourself, but i am inclined to believe the truth is always a mixture) is incredible to behold with 4chans admin literally right there speaking. always the sineater for fucking all of mainstream media, tech circles, tech culture vultures, 4chan itself.. give a bitch a break for real. anyway point being this is not some new phenomenon and said sociologists love to study these groups under microscopes and feel a form of kinship with their disaffected attitudes but they do not respect them in any way. not that respect has ever been a precursor to wanting to bang it out with someone.
>>84216227reread the part where i said this book is from six years ago and based on information from prior to that and the internet moves at lightspeed.
>>84216223why do none of you understand how the fuck publishing a book works>>84216204no nuance allowed ever: trufax
>>84216264Nigga it wasn't 1998 .IS had been around for years already at this point
>>84216273>>84216273Is that a forum? Google says the country domain for Iceland
>>84216289>is that a forum?
>>84216273was the entire internet saying -cel, -pilled, -maxxed, -mogged, discussing ratios and looksmaxxing, blaming jeets and other third worlders for infiltrating every website, and blackpilling the fuck out of every demographic prior to 2020? i seem to remember they were all laughing at a video of celebrities singing imagine from their mansions and trying not to die while making sourdough to netflixs bo burnham special and doing full hand to hand combat on every fucking plane and in every fucking retail location over wearing a stupid mask. we didnt even have jan 6 yet trying to coup the shit out of the presidency. was internet culture in 2010 different than it was in 2004? how about 2018 and 2012?
>>84216303Sorry I am unfamiliar with incel terminology? I just came back to the board.
>>84216316Incels.isEnjoy
>>84215968tfw just learned I'm a wristcel
OP it's called the pointing and sputtering technique, they're not actually going to address any of the claims and whether they're true, they're just going to use the institutional power and narratives on their side to dismiss and mock what you say. This happens for a variety of topics but because the people in power are schizophrenic jews they are going to claim anyone critiquing their system and its failures are the people they're most worried about, which is nationalist whites.
>>84216273>>84216289if you try looking it up the first results are all research studies from 2022. what is your point here? a better one would be that the supreme gentleman had already been anointed in 2014 and was a hapa, but then part of his entire routine was that because he wasnt a fully whitey he would never get the coed stacey puss he was so cruelly denied of by the foids he had to murder over it. not really helping whatever point is attempting to be made that incels come in every color and are a kumbaya singing circle of mutual respect for a brother-without-booty
>>84215968>Ethnicel erasureSounds like something libs would bitch about.
>>84216338Of course, the answer is always that the Jews are behind this. How do people keep falling for it when this is so obvious?
>>84216338the everyday sexism bitch has institutional power and narrative over incels huh
>>84216328At least you are not a witcel or a suicel.
>>84216348>what is your point hereThat she's making claims that arent backed up by evidence. The incel community is racist but also full of different races
>>84216323>EnjoyNo, I really do not think I will. This board is so different from what it used to be. So much more talk about women constantly. It used to be a lot but not all the time. This does not feel tiring for you?
>>84216310>was the entire internet saying -cel, -pilled, -maxxed, -mogged, discussing ratios and looksmaxxing, blaming jeets and other third worlders for infiltrating every website, and blackpilling the fuck out of every demographic prior to 2020I mean... yeah. Elliott Rodger was in 2014 dude.
>>84216367She's been "educated" by jewish intellectual gibberish which is top down and hegemonic, so in a way yes.
>>84216376did you actually read the screenshot where she says there are different races and then says the terms are used to denote how perceived racial inferiority impacts dating prospects to make them incels. i assume your point of contention here is that she says its a small part, and if your data is from prior to 2020 and centered exclusively on english-speaking media especially before the massive tiktok boom (it entered us in 2018 but even assuming this was immediately up to date to 2020 culture when printed in 2020 that is 2 years of influence versus 8, was 4chan more influential in total in 2005 or in 2011?) it might look that way. the world and the internet have changed greatly since 2020. consider gender relations alone for comparison. white american foids were not making tiktoks in large numbers about divesting from men for celibacy and burning all makeup in 2020. the oldest gen z was 23 and hadnt been assfucked by reality completely yet. im not saying the assertion that the community is diverse is wrong, i am saying that to argue it isnt based on at least historical preference for white superiority is bizarrely ahistorical and expecting a book on internet culture, the thing that becomes the most immediately dated upon publication the quickest in the world comparable with new cars crashing in value the second you make it off the lot, to be up to date on modern demographics is idiotic. she should publish a reprint with updated info if she wants to be thorough but unless this book becomes a household name, which if it hasnt in six years is unlikely, that is not going to happen. she has a new book out about the effects of ai probably specifically ai porn and clothing removal not to mention cp generation so this is clearly a fast moving topic.
>>84216416Tldr plox
>>84216384holy fuck did isla vista happen in 2014? thats crazy. wonder if i mentioned that here >>84216348 as a specific concession. you and i both know that no they were not using that terminology in that era. redpill and bluepill absolutely, a few people saying blackpill and some other absurd shit like pinkpill or others. but blackpill being something a normie on the internet knows about? them arguing about the best way to beat the shit out of their skulls to make them fit some objective ratio of attractiveness better? absolutely not. mewing took over as a tiktok trend in 2024 and that was clearly a watershed moment for lingo entering normie spaces even as it had been there before. nihilism had not fully taken over yet. this was still the era of people trying to make bernie sanders obama 2.0 and insisting trump would only have one term. there was optimism still in the water from millennials and it had since died. the internet has become significantly more global since and while infowars and psyops are nothing new they hadnt reached the same fever pitch. you wouldnt open up instagram as i just did and see people spamming PEDO KIDDY FUCKER and GO DIE FOR ISRAEL from their otherwise normal accounts to the white house one in 2020 nor would they openly type like 4channers shitposting on official communications even if muh alt right is walking around with kekistan flags and pepe pins years prior. this is the era of arguing whether a green frog is a hate symbol and if fren is a word like doggo or a white supremacist dogwhistle, not the era of the Department of Government Efficiency and arguing whether whites can ever actually be incels or if it is brown and blackcels only forevermore. alex jones himself wasnt even sued by sandy hook families for 2 more years and didnt have his assets liquidated for 5 more. people were still talking nonstop about parkland and emma gonzalez, david hogg, and greta thunberg as the new malala yousafzais and hilldawg twerking to beyonce.
>>84216427you can read the <2000 characters on your screen or blow your brains out. i do not care which one because either will make you a big boy.
>>84216473You type in such an inane and slightly feminine way you make it hardYou seem to think the bitch who made the book is coming at it through an actual research lens and not just framing incels as evil white male chuds to make them even less sympathetic.
>>84216386that is not what institutional power means. jews have institutional power in your scenario and are using white women as puppet mouthpieces through university brainwashing into feminism to divide the sexes and kill white birth rates even though that would paradoxically reduce the number of goycattle they can milk. at least say this is payback for the holocaust or something by targeting white people specifically through a recreation of eves fall in the garden of eden as women are the more easily manipulated sex and tofu simps will do whatever the pussy says in order to keep getting it wet as the alternate is jerking off onto their reddit-approved funko collection. or whatever. i should not have to write your scripts for you.
>>84216482call me feminine again it really validates my gender identity bb especially when you use it to explain how you dont want to read>you think an author is doing research rather than promoting a narrativewhat do you think most nonfiction is? feminist bitches nobody likes already do not need any help in making incels look unsympathetic. you already cannot stop cannibalizing your own on the basis of whether they perform masculinity to your preferred standards. why the fuck would this not apply to race when half of the posts on here are about blacking and bleaching? read your own board sometime
>>84215968Women are retarded. There is nothing more to it.
>>84216505Incels are a victim of women's skyrocketing standards. Evidently you trooned out to escape this but this remains true
>>84215968>straight, middle-class menthe most oppressed group, because we're the ones whose jobs are most at risk from nepotists and quotafoids
>>84215968Its using the modern phenomenon of inceldom in an abstract way to call [group I don't like] virgins.women only have one primordial insult, and that is to call you insecure about a perceived or made up vulnerability/insufficiency, and they usually revolve around sex because that is a woman's most valuable currency when interacting with men.>you have a small penis>you are a virgin/don't get laid enough>you're unattractive to women(ie short, fat. Its a roundabout way to say you don't get laid)>you like men(because you couldn't get a woman)etc.Any argument against a man or group of men is some abstraction of this. Women think in a solipsistic frame of mind. Any insult has to at the same time be an implicit compliment to her own ego.
>>84216518yeah obviously a massive fucking troon here. watch me go weeeeee in my twirly skirt and induce lactation in my gynecomastia tittays to get dat sweet sweet gender euphoria>skyrocketing standardsis 7 foot chad with the 12 inch cock in the room with us now. their standards are largely social and emotional and yet all incels ever want to talk about is how they arent hot enough for women that lust over the nonconcept of a dadbod and the soul being what matters. if anything i think some of them might have infiltrated your circles to intentionally give you eating disorders and body dysmorphia to make you bog it out as revenge for having to read the beauty myth. my money is on that strange subsection of female users that quote dworkin to each other in between racial slurs. ever consider that there are not girls on the internet but complete cunts that know how to astroturf and demoralize you too from doing it to each other for generations and some psychos might have thought it would be really fucking funny to see how many of you they could get to kill themselves while they beef up security over incel shootings so there cant be any more roastie mass murders? i wonder if any of them glow, or if they stuck to strobing and contouring.
>>84216470>nigga not only expects me to read his novel but also keep track of which anonymous posts are hisBlow
>>84216580Manlets are the easiest example because they're REVILED by women. Go make an account as a 5'4 guy and see how many matches you get.
>>84216600>MeMeMe?hard to tell when only one person schizoposts paragraph rants at you huh. you know the name of that type of blowjay that involves just gently licking it without taking it in your mouth? seems like the colloquial term is a boyfriend blowjob but that isn't the technical one
>>84216605reviled implies they seek you out to mock you. do women do that to you, anon? or is not getting matches the same as active hatred to you. because most men don't get matches. not how the dating market works.
>>84216484Yeah I guess governments and intelligence agencies boosting this shit is non instutitonal, lmao
>>84216605Hm. Last guy I went out with was 5'4 and felt the need to keep making comments about it and the lifts he wore. I didn't notice or care but he did a lot. There was a guy I thought was cute who was that height or lower but every time I try to talk to him he won't look at me at all. I want to call him a short king but I think he'd think that was meant as an insult.
>>84216623Yes they go out of their way to make social media content attacking short men, even just average height men too.
>>84216623>reviled implies they seek you out to mock youThat is literally not the definition of the word>>84216627Forgive me if I find this hard to believe when you hear the same "I don't date short Guys because they're all insecure neo-nazi chuds" type shit from women every damn timeJust say you want a tall guy
>>84216625no a feminist author is not the one with institutional power if she is being re-educated into killing her bloodline. in your scenario that is the apparently jew run government and intelligence agencies, unless you mean they are run by feminists. jewish feminists specifically would make more sense. i wonder if the intelligence agencies have dybbuk dyke field officers who spend their time spamming imageboards half with demoralization campaigns like "no woman will ever touch you if you are under 6 foot and/or your penis is under 8 inches" and half with discord invites to their dms where they can form false emotional attachments with you just to break your heart later and manipulate you into actual suicide, or perhaps an incel rage which they watch you escalate on here through their own intervention so that when they, in their other persona as a fellow blackpiller, encourage you to go shoot up a campus and you intimate you might follow through, they can immediately charge you with terrorism and throw your ass in fed forever. i guess they are helping you in a way though. getting assraped by jamal means you're no longer a khhv.
>>84216636If I wanted a tall guy I would have said I wanted a tall guy. I don't care about height and don't filter for it. Just personality. Why would I lie on here? I'm not getting followers for it. Why should I give a shit what other women say they want? They're my competition. Besides if they only want tall Chad then I have better odds of a short chud. Mix-max.
>>84216636>That is literally not the definition of the word>implies>criticize in an abusive or angrily insulting manner
>>84216649Why would people do that? Go online and tell lies?
>>84216628have you ever considered that women ragebait and troll you too? think of all the ragebait about beautiful women being hideous just to make becky feel worse about herself or the ones calling thin women fat pigs. do you believe everything you see online? especially fucking 4chan?
>>84216655Why would I go online and lie about what men I have dated on 4chan? What am I getting out of this here, weirdo? I didn't ask for your disc or any simps and I can't get upvotes or followers here. What the fuck do I gain from lying about this? Not like you're replying saying I'm a wonderful rare specimen for a brief ego boost.
Its because liberal women are so adverse to hating on non-whites. If they are to hate "incels" those incels need to be her boogeyman and not an innocent ethnic that society harmed. You see the foid is attempting to dehumanize the incel. What better way to do that then to claim the incel is the ultimate enemy of Neo-liberalism, the "le nazi white boy" Now you can ignore the problems of the incel. Hell, might even start to advocate sending them all off to war to die.
>>84216664Because women find gaslighting short men fun and exciting.T. 5'4 individual
>>84216671Right. Is this why you're telling me how tall you are? So I can ask for YOUR disc and hit on you? If I'm following this convo correctly you're the same person a few posts ago who said women love mocking short men, so I said I had liked the guy I went out with and did not really notice his height even as he kept bringing it up, and then you claimed I am gaslighting you. Look, I'm sorry women have been bitches to you for your height but I don't know why you have to assume every anon is lying to you when they mention being neutral about it. I am surrounded by women and know they can have insane standards but I am not personally one of them. Torturing men isn't some exciting passtime for me. I like talking to people as people and would rather nobody suffer needlessly. I hope you can find someone who won't treat you like shit for something you can't control and which doesn't reflect anything about you as a person. The judgements people make based on appearance are unfair and impossible for me to understand. You can just talk to people and see how they actually are, yknow?
>>84216665fatties spent a decade insisting everyone who wasnt attracted to them was a bigot and blacks responded insisting everyone who wasnt attracted to them was racist. now we have whatever this shit is. almost like the first incels were fatass women and black guys
>>84216693No, I'm telling you my height to show it's my lived experience. 99% of women see you as a subhuman or the second option, or will say "i don't date short dudes because this one was mean to me in the past".
>>84216656>it's just trolling and psyops bro
>>84215968>why are women like this?The takeaway here is that the world is full of shit. I mean literally. Any retard can publish any braindead crap as a book and think it's a fucking achievement.This is so fucking repulsive. Imagine taking humans, books, "research" seriously. Pffff. The only thing to take seriously are a few real natural sciences, such as psychics. Not all of this made up horseshit.TL;DR: I'm so tired of the world being polluted with imbecilic dogshit.
>>84216708did i say anything about dating statistics or did i say women making social media content attacking short men and average height men could possibly be fucking with you
>>84216700Right, and that's why I responded to you in the second bit as if you were speaking from lived experience as I suspected you were. Again I am sorry women have treated you that way and nobody deserves to be treated as subhuman. I have also been treated as subhuman for various reasons but as it was never my height that isn't relevant other than understanding that people are cruel for stupid reasons and it makes you feel fucking awful and rightfully dislike and distrust them.Regarding the past thing though, that feels like it's just also a bit of what is going on here. Women have been cruel to you in the past based on your height so you distrust them. That's a logical conclusion to avoid getting hurt again, and it sounds like what many people do about various aspects of people when dating or making friends, but it is also very isolating. I don't mean you need to put any weight on their opinion of you if they're shallow enough to discount someone based on how many inches their head is from the ground, but I am telling you that not every woman out there is immediately discounting you in her head because of your height, and even less are actively mocking you for it. Most of the stats posted here say women just ignore men irl anyway, don't even register. What do you think about those women though, anon? What is it you think when you see people? Who cares what they think, what do you think about them?
>>84216713Please tell me more about psychics anon
>>84216778I don't care what women think of me but I know what they do. I'm not enough of a beta loser to care the cashier sees me as a turbo manlet, I just want cigarettes or booze or something. At a point resigning yourself to being alone is better than looking for the needle in a haystack, which most incels dont understand
>>84216785>psychicsyou don't wanna know, because it is more braindead dogshit.
>>84216847But what if I want to learn all about psychical science
>>84216888dunno. use a search engine or something.
>>84216797I mean, sure, not caring what a cashier or other strangers think is a good idea. I've accepted I'm likely going to be alone as well because I can't bring myself to give a shit about the status and optics game everyone else seems to find the entire meaning of life. It's good to keep expectations low so they can't be disappointed.But what is it you think of those people, anon? I don't care what judgements they make of you because I don't care about the opinions of people who would go out of their way to insult someone like that. What do you think of people you encounter in general or specifically 1-on-1? What is it you are repulsed by in people? What do you look for in interactions of any kind that make you value a person? What is it YOU want?I hope the guys I was talking about haven't had a rough go of it like this... but it sounds like you're saying they probably have. :( I wish I could undo it for them. No wonder he doesn't want to look, if every woman is just another potential source of mockery. I wonder if there's any way to make him realize his inherent value.
>>84216892>school-based curriculum designed to develop students' physical competence, health-related fitness, and confidence through cognitive, affective, and psychomotor learning.Wow thank you for learning me about psychical education
