The memed male mental health crisis is fucking fake and this is a great example of it. The only person that can save a man is himself. When a man is depressed he is choosing to be so and enjoying it like a toddler with a safety blanket. Notice how he immediately screenshotted her message and sent it to the group to make fun of her being concerned for him? He wants to kill himself in peace and is mad she is holding him accountable with her pesky caring message. I dealt with the same thing before my ex's friend was super depressed but every time we reached out to him he treated us like garbage, especially me. His sister even asked us to help him. He killed himself not long afterwards. I think this is due to the fact that a lot of loser men that were meant to die earlier in war or dangerous work are having unnaturally prolonged lives. If a man wants to be depressed and die, just let him. Acting otherwise challenges his autonomy as a man. Men are easily spooked and retarded like wild hogs pushing will just make them pull more. They need to think it's their own idea to shape up but they lowkey wanna wallow
>>84217604kill all femtards
>>84217604Girlfriend of a friend can't help a man. What she can do? Taunt him with her body?No really what real support she/you can offer? Can you name some?
>>84217776These are years long friendships. She and me weren't just some random woman off the street. I assume there is a lot of shared history with parties and trips etc. I feel bad more for her than for him because she thought they were friends but he just sees her as his buddy's woman that can't possibly know how he feels.
>>84217797>but he just sees her as his buddy's woman that can't possibly know how he feels.Exactly. That stupid woman knows nothing.And you didn't answer the question.What real support she/you can offer?
>>84217797Are you a bio-fem? Because yeah men do not typically interact AT ALL with their friends partners. I've borderline ignored my friends' wives. I'm not her friend and she's not mine, usually if your friends are talking to your partners, something ain't right
You are reading a demoralisation post.I think perhaps these are funded by the same groups that destroyed Occupy Wall Street. Just a hunch though.
>>84217830I don't understand why you keep asking me to quantify the support I'd give. For the guy that killed himself we were going over and trying to help him by taking him out, trying to cheer him up with shows and games he liked (he was super good at platformers and would calm down and be nice if we had a game on the TV) but if relationships came up he would get very upset. He struck out with one woman and just couldn't let it go. It was at the point where just me and my boyfriend being together angered him because it felt like throwing what he couldn't have in his face. He made so many snarky jokes about stealing me away if he was better that we barely wanted to talk to him anymore. Like I said in my op post a depressed man wants to be depressed
>>84217850>He made so many snarky jokes about stealing me away this is not a convincing part of the larp. cut it next time to avoid losing people
>>84217850>but if relationships came up he would get very upset. He struck out with one woman and just couldn't let it go. It was at the point where just me and my boyfriend being together angered him because it felt like throwing what he couldn't have in his face.Exactly. You tease him with a thing he can't have (and relationships and sex problems are very hurtful). Your aren't help, you are pain.
>>84217864I wouldn't lie about something like that and it's part of what made it so difficult to be nice to him. His sister and my ex-boyfriend worked at the same company and she actually approached us at the Christmas party and asked us to please reach out to him more because she was worried about him. The reason we had distanced ourselves from him was because of those comments but for the greater good, I decided that we should help him, but it wasn't enough. I understand why he did it. His parents divorced and his mom moved to Spain with some guy. He felt abandoned. But he wasn't. He had multiple friends and people that were trying to help him. He just wanted to die.
>>84217604I understand that you're angry. But you have to understand that some issues are very deep. I remember when I was depressed and suicidal, I didn't want anybody to see me. That's because there's a certain sense of who you should be as a man. Being a rock other people can depend on is a part of that. Somebody who's progressing and successful. You don't want to be the opposite of that and burden others with your miserable withering existence. It's not just a figment of one's imagination, when you're a man, people generally don't have tolerance for you completely falling apart. So the best you're capable of in the moment is just withdrawing. I felt highly distressed when people were reaching out to me because of that. But I did want to get better, so I went to therapy. I felt like by doing that I wasn't putting my problems on the people around me. It was a suboptimal solution, because psychologically you do actually need kind people and a community to support you when you fall. I'm still profoundly unhappy with my life, but it helped me address the most pressing issues that were causing me misery, so at least I'm not as miserable.
>>84217883>He had multiple friendsAnd outsider femoid inserting herself between him and his friendship.
>>84217883Well let's hope more moids learn to just kill themselves quickly before they can make you uncomfortable. Keep fighting the good fight, nona. Therapy never helped anyone with real problems anyway.
>>84217891When a man and a woman date and live together for years they kind of become a unit. I wasn't trying to insert myself in anything. But with time I do agree that there is some stuff that men should handle with each other. I was just talking about this with my boyfriend the other day. I think men and women need their own spaces. If a man comes into a woman's only chat, it changes the entire dynamic and we can't talk as frankly and I assume it's the same for men. I guess the disconnect comes where I thought we were friends and he wasn't seeing me like that. He'd told me a lot of personal stuff at fires and parties. But I guess once you are pegged by a person to be a certain way you can't escape that.
>>84217797>man kills himself>woman most affected
>>84217919The Reddit guy didn't kill himself. He just made fun of her. Sorry I blog posted too much. I get how you're confused.
>>84217891I should add I was in a similar situation.I have a life long friend since school days. After college he married his oneitis, and I stayed incel. It was very uncomfortable to have that girl in our meetings. Hopefully my friend had understanding of men's problems and feeling of tact so he didn't insist of her been mandatory and we had our time together in men's only old circle company (of course marriage greatly reduced his availability for me).If his wife like you or reddit fembot tried to chase me then, and "extend help" it would've feel like like humiliation ritual and I don't kniw what I would've do. Maybe killed myself too. But again my friend was sensitive enough to shield me from such.PS. Today he is divorced and adamant bachelor who only accepts hooks ups with girls, no living together. I fucked some escorts and grew some skin, I don't care that much about fembots in gatherings now.
>>84217938Gross why is this John in my thread My boyfriend isn't friends with men that use prostitutes
>>84217604>I think this is due to the fact that a lot of loser men that were meant to die earlier in war or dangerous work are having unnaturally prolonged lives. If a man wants to be depressed and die, just let him. Acting otherwise challenges his autonomy as a man. Men are easily spooked and retarded like wild hogs pushing will just make them pull more.cope, you killed that man because you wouldn't suck his dick
>>84217946>My boyfriend isn't friends with men that use prostitutesHow do you know?
>>84217850I wonder what the ghost of the dead guy would think reading this. >be depressed>random foid bothers you>kill yourself>same woman encourages suicide for people like him>pretends that she was even helping in the first placeDoes anyone have that webm of that mom whose son committed suicide? It was a tiktok where she describes her sons death as such a waste. Thats op.
>>84217969He'd probably use his ghostly energy to simp for me more because he was pretty pathetic like that. It's crazy how he got a fantastic job and his own apartment and tons of fancy electronics and still offed himself. It's like he knew no matter how successful he became, he'd always just be the same person. Tough pill to swallow
>>84217956Sounds ridiculous but now that you bring it up...i wonder if its an actual phenomenon. Women feeling guilt when some guy she couldve validated with sex just ropes themselves. Theyre obviously aware of the power they hold over men. Man that is actually crazy and grim.
>>84217604As an inkwell, when I was very depressed, my estranged female cousin reaching out to me was one of the things that helped me the most. She was kind and took me on walks where we talked a lot. Outside of my mom, I had no woman in my entire life show me that much compassion, which had a profound effect on me. I don't think it would make me feel the same, if my cousin was a guy.
>>84217966I have interacted with his friends and I can tell none of them have been near a pussy in their entire lives.
>>84217604Who cares? Normoids die and robots laugh.Also "friendship" was invented in the 20th century to placate low value men.
>>84217979Are you happy he committed suicide? Be honest
>>84218007It simultaneously haunts me and angers me because people were trying really hard for him. It's why I named my image pearls to swine.
>>84218023>such a waste
>>84218023You're talking about a person who died a death of despair, and the main thing you're preoccupied with is how angered you are that his troubles didn't magically go away because you put some effort into supporting him. That's life. Some people's problems aren't easy to solve. But this isn't a good reason to give up on people moving forward.
only unprotected sex with fembot pussy can save me from my mental health crisis
>>84218088He chose it for himself though. He had literally like 10 friends. My thesis stands, never help a man that is depressed. If he didn't want to be that way he would ask for help. Inserting yourself will just make him go deeper in a bid for control. I talked to my boyfriend about this the other day and he told me that when one of them in their group starts acting reclusive they will literally go over to his house and force him to come out with them. I think that is the only exception where is okay to bother a depressed man. Because his bros are just forcing him out and acting like he's normal and makes him be normal again. My BF says it has an 100% success rate.
>>84218114>He chose it for himself though.Is it really a choice when its made by a diseased mind? It's called a mental illness, because your mind isn't operating properly or rationally.
>>84218114post tits normalnigger
>>84218114>My thesis stands, never help a man that is depressedThesis is wrong because your aren't person who can extend help to a romantically lone man. Your aproach just teases such man and hurts him more.
If any of this is real, I don't blame you at all for being pissed off at him. I have always tried to reach out to those who are clearly struggling, and I've only gotten a few such interventions when things have been really bad throughout my life... Every time it's happened to me, it's really meant the world to me. Some people have the emotional intelligence of moss. My guess? He had an arrogant attitude about the uniqueness of his suffering 'She'll never understand...' which drove him to further self-isolate.Since this is 4chan, I can append one additional statement I couldn't elsewhere: People who commit suicide who aren't in war-torn, impoverished regions of the world or suffering from a severe illness are fucking wusses. I feel deeply for the many men who kill themselves, but as someone who grew up with zero support system, financially or emotionally, seeing people who have any resources at all kill themselves makes me feel revulsion.
>>84218156>suicide is for le wussies!wow you really showed him, im sure hes really broken up over that one
>>84218156>his suffering 'She'll never understand...'And he does.He was clearly suffering from incelism. Breedable inaccessible prancing and teasing under his nose is a clear case of woman non understanding his suffering.
>>84217604> I an mentally ill due to social isolation in modern world> AHH YOU'RE THREATENING MY SOCIAL ISOLATION> so you see, as social animals, we should let that men kill themselves because it is naturalNo
>>84218161Just listen to what he is sayingHe is saying first world problems aren't worth killing yourself over
>>84218577>world problems aren't worth killing yourself overWho sets the price of "worth"?
>>84218586Perspective I guessI can understand why Hitler killed himself in his bunker.I can understand a lot of German suicides during WW2But FDR didn't shoot himself after Pearl Harbor, and Stalin didn't shoot himself after Barbarossa
>>84217604True. Let men be depressed. Remember that they don't give a fuck about you so just let them lay in their own piss. I have had it with caring about males.
>>84217834>usually if your friends are talking to your partners, something ain't rightMen really are horrible people. No wonder they die sad and alone if they don't manage to lure a woman to be their wife
>>84218577im sure all those people who killed themselves really care about your opinion faggot
The male loneliness epidemic is a manifestation of natural selection in modern society. Those who are unfit to adapt will be removed from the gene pool.
>>84217604>Notice how he immediately screenshotted her message and sent it to the group to make fun of her being concerned for him?How tf is that what you got from this? You sound extremely autistic, but in the female austism way, where you don't learn that your empathetic faculties are excentric and odd until you're older because nobody tells you.>He wants to kill himself in peace and is mad she is holding him accountable with her pesky caring messageUh, no. It's a possession thing, like the boyfriend says. Men rarely have friendgroups, especially long lasting ones like that. I got ejected from mine when I got sick for 8 years, and that was that, so having your friends gf step in is like having their mom or dad step in. It's weird, transgressive, and emberassing, both for the boyfriend and for the depressed guy.>holding him accountable with her pesky caring message. I dealt with the same thing before my ex's friend was super depressed but every time we reached out to him he treated badWhen you're at the end of your rope, that's just how you act. It is not fun to be around those who are about to abstract.> I think this is due to the fact that a lot of loser men that were meant to die earlier in war or dangerous work are having unnaturally prolonged livesI thought this about myself. I still sometimes do. But my life HAS gotten better. I figure that if I don't belong and fate isn't on my side, that maybe fate is a spook and I wasn't "meant" to be dead by now like my instincts tell me.>if a man wants to be depressed and die, just let him. Acting otherwise challenges his autonomy as a man.Men have too much autonomy and not enough belonging.>Men are easily spooked and retarded like wild hogs pushing will just make them pull more. Anything else is humiliating and effeminate. We don't live in a world where you can at the same time be pathetic and manly. It's why we have privacy. The night comes after the day for men, and day after the night for women.
>>84217604The guy might be depressed, but we live in the age of modern women, so it's still his duty to report to his friend that his gf is reaching out to him in private. I think she meant well and is just a sweet compassionate person, but it is what it is. She perhaps shouldn't be saying it in private to him, but instead in a group chat. He on the other hand shouldn't be sharing the text with the group chat, but some kind of notification in private to the bf is necessary.
>>84218626Only the people who didn't kill themselves are alive to read my post
>>84218960exactly, i envy them
>>84218577>He is saying first world problems aren't worth killing yourself overYou know, obesity is a first world problem. Though I can't say it doesn't make sense why people kill themselves over it. The fact is that first world problems are still problems precisely because we consider them first world problems. There's no concept of suffering from unregulated excess. Only from defect.
yeah it's a special property *funny story that i can't get right*
>>84217604Her texting his friend is weird as fuck in modern normie society. If the gender had been reversed it would be the same. The best she could have done is tried to pass on her concern and love through her boyfriend, which he wouldn't have done because he's not supposed to be talking about his friends problems behind his friends back.You're all too gossip brained and think this is normal. It's not.
>>84217797I don't care about the thread itself but she literally calls him her "boyfriend's friend" though, not even a mutual friend. just tagging along with a group of people doesn't make you equally close with each and every one of them
