id date him just for show then fatally poison him just to make the world a bit better

>>84225189
Sorry anon, you are not going to change the view of prostitution by your lonesome.
At most you could get a woman to deal with it after she has invested considerable time into your relationship or you need to be the chaddest chad that ever was.

why would you ever tell a woman you went to a prostitute? im not sure how that even comes up as a question, and if it ever did just fucking lie. women literally want you to lie to them about everything anyway, if you tell them about all the emotional shit going on in your head their pussy dries up and they dont want to fuck you anymore. lie

depends on that guys thoughts on my sexual history desu

>>84225278
>my sexual history
..well?

A lot more men have been to prostitutes than you think. And it's not friendless loser incels either, but successful and normal men.

Foids should be the last people to care about body count/sexual history since they get all offensive when asked the same question.

>>84225297
If he's ok with it or at least content with it. I would be ok with it. If he's one of those that acts as women should be 100 pure while he spends his night jerking off to BBC cuck porn, I would not.

>>84225192
But you think the prostitute deserves to live right?

>>84225314
Yeah but that applies to any serious hypocrisies as they indicate a detrimental mental illness and immaturity

>>84225314
I'm asking what your sexual history consists of. If you had sex with 10s of guys, do you see that as equal to a guy having seen 1 prostitute?

>>84225189
my ideal moid is a virgin and i would genuinely rather date a man whore who has slept with like 10 women before ever considering a guy who has seen a prostitute. but we both know now that i say this you're just going to lie to whatever poor unfortunate woman you talk to next

Why would you tell anybody about your experience with a hooker you fucking sperg? Some things, like engaging with a prostitute, are meant to be private.

>>84225334
Some people just can't lie or are bad at lying.

>>84225330
Why is it any of your business how many people a man has slept with or if he's seen a prostitute? For the record I have never seen a hooker and I also don't care about how many guys a woman has slept with.

>>84225326
I don't think going to a hooker, or being a slut isn't on the same level as being a cuck.
>>84225327
My personal sexual history is that I've only been with 3 men. The problem seems to be that one of those guys was purely a sexual relationship. The men I date tend to get obsessed about it.

>>84225349
>The problem seems to be that one of those guys was purely a sexual relationship
If a man fully accepted you, you'd be completely fine with him having seen a prostitute? Would you still be okay with him having been with multiple, or just one?

>>84225349
>I don't think going to a hooker, or being a slut isn't on the same level as being a cuck.
>isn't
I agree they are all the same.

>>84225368
Yeah, I'll be curious about it but I imagine it goes both way,
The last guy I went one a date with insitied on paying. I mean aggressively so. At the end of the night he spent probably $300. I don't see how spending that money hoping you get sex is all that different then spending that money for sex. Also, just for the record he didn't sex.
>>84225382
I'm guessing you are a cuck. I feel like a person who is one defends them.

>>84225417
>defends them
When did I do that?

>>84225424
You put cucking on the same level as people having causal sex.

Here's my question for guys. What if her body count was just 1 by being forced by her father?

>>84225450
Unironically preferred over her losing her virginity in 1 loving relationship

>>84225330
>my ideal moid is a virgin
Are you religious?

>>84225427
>You put cucking on the same level as people having causal sex.
When did I do that? Why are you making stuff up when I said nothing positive about cucks.

>>84225450
It would make me sympathize with you. I guess some guys would get scared and some would see it as a vulnerability to exploit.

>>84225330
Why is a prostitute worse than 10 normal women?

>>84225189
yeah absoloutely I don't want my pussy to feel like icy hot

>>84225450
I wouldn't count it. You obviously didn't want it.

>>84225488
What about someone who was trafficked into sex slavery and had a bodycount of over 9000? They obviously didn't want it either.

>>84225345
i dont need to justify to you my preferences in a partner. good for you that you dont care, there are a plethora of women who dont care how many women a guy has slept with as well out there for you

>>84225490
Again. You obviously didn't want it. As long as you don't have STDs then I'm game.

>>84225494
Interesting, anon is consistent.

>>84225460
no, im just a virgin.

>>84225477
i dont like any non virgins really, im okay to settle for a man whos slept with maybe 1 or 2 if i really love him. but the thing, is atleast with a man who slept with 10 normal women he actually earned the right to sleep with them, which is much harder to resist in a world where virginity is shamed for a man. a prostitute, not only did you not resist, you PAID and it's not even a status thing because there is no status in paying for sex. she also just 100% of the time didnt love or care about you, at least with the 10 women there's a possibility they were all relationships (albeit slim). paying for a prositute means you dont respect yourself at all, i mean of course given you gave money to sleep with a woman who's slept with thousands of men prior to you. that's how little you value sex and any man who's seen a prositute does not share my values.

>>84225504
How would you feel about a man who "earned" sleeping with many women because he owns a yacht which he purchased specifically to impress women and host parties to give himself easy access.
Explain the difference between this and a monger.

>>84225189
>would you reject a guy for having seen a prostitute?
Yes. Prostitutes and homosexuality are turnoffs. I would not entertain you

No one asked but I've seriously thought about paying for.a prostitute twice, but not to fugg, just do what I guess is femdom stuff like worship. Like really high class, expensive prostitutes. I was going to pay $2k for one once.
Then I remember that I'll feel lonelier afterwards, That they're diseased.
It's not like I'm a pornsick retard. These are just my feelings and my preferences that I cannot shake. I can't really talk to anyone so it's my own fault I'm lonely. I guess point is what's the point of going to a prostitute to get your dick wet. You'd just end up worse than before. I'm gonna go bake some apple scones now. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>84225189
>Femanons, would you reject a guy for having seen a prostitute?
Just don't tell that to women, for some reason they found that offensive. There is no requirement to tell this to women.
You can tell bros.

>>84225517
like i said prior, i dont like man whores, so i feel accordingly. there's still an undeniable difference between him and a man who sleeps with a prostitute though.

>Explain the difference between this and a monger.
simple. a monger isnt impressing the prostitute. it's just her job. therefore there's no earning.

>>84225189
>sex worker
I feel like if you have to stoop this low, at least get one with like, a body that's made for porn
>dsl lips
>big tits
>humongous ass
price is premium sure but it's not like you're going every weekend

>>84225477
That's female thing. There is no need to understand. Just take notice they don't like it and use this knowledge accordingly.

>>84225529
Remember that its ok for women to not tell you if they used to be prostitutes

>>84225530
>simple. a monger isnt impressing the prostitute. it's just her job. therefore there's no earning.
So your premise here is that all who attend the yacht party are "impressed"? But that is not always true and they are making themselves available for the potential of future earnings. I see no difference between this and a prostitute except the scale and risk.

>>84225189
100% I would reject him. I am not interested in desperate coomers. I only have sex based on true love, monogamy and mutual desire. I except the same from my boyfriend/husband.

>>84225544
That's not the worst thing they can hide from you.

>>84225549
if you dont see the clear differences then you're just retarded, i say this as kindly as i can. how many prostitutes have you slept with anon

Speaking of prostitutes, have any of you fembots done it before? Getting paid for sex?

>>84225591
>if you dont see the clear differences then you're just retarded
If you can't explain the difference then you're the retard. I say this as kindly as I can.
I have slept with zero people in my entire life.

>>84225598
no. i genuinely find it a waste of fucking time to explain such basic premises to you. but okay anon, i will spell it out for you. if a woman is CHOOSING to sleep with you for future earnings (aka LONG TERM not just a one night stand), you clearly have a lot of wealth which you had to put the effort into. this is called earning. how much is it to pay for a prostitute for one night? really not that much and it's one night. you arent earning shit because many many many men before you have done it with the same woman. it really isnt hard to grasp

>>84225605
There is no need to be rude at all.
> if a woman is CHOOSING to sleep with you for future earnings (aka LONG TERM not just a one night stand
It's not long term, it's a yacht party and the woman is "hoping" for the chance that it might be long term. I explained the scenario pretty well so there is no need to misconstrue it to defend your position.
>you clearly have a lot of wealth which you had to put the effort into
No necessarily true, what if they are a nepo baby? Or like me and a terminal neet who "earns" money doing nothing at all except investing and can buy a yacht because of it?
The tl;dr of your post is exactly what i described in the first place
>I see no difference between this and a prostitute except the scale and risk.
Yet you felt the need to call me retarded and say there was a difference that I cannot see when I explicitly described the difference is only scale and risk.

>>84225189
Monitoring this thread hard. Sad and lonely and had sex with 3 prostitutes (so far).

>>84225651
I haven't actually done it, but I'm considering it. I really want to lose my virginity this year

>>84225631
it's nothing to do with scale lol. one is a transaction the other isnt. earning attraction vs paying for it, you arent actually paying the woman in your made up hypothetical. again because theyre HOPING for something out of it, not actually getting anything out of it. if a woman sleeps with you in hopes for something and doesnt get it how can you compare that to paying for sex? this is such a stupid argument lol.

>what if they are a nepo baby?
then their parents or whoever prior to them earned the wealth. therefore it's still earned in some capacity.

>Or like me and a terminal neet who "earns" money doing nothing at all except investing and can buy a yacht because of it?
why not buy a yacht to impress women with then.

>Yet you felt the need to call me retarded
yes because this shouldnt be explained to you how a transaction isnt the same lmfao. also you're literally pulling up the craziest hypothetical to argue. most men with a body count of 10 aren't buying yachts to get sex so bare that in mind lmfao. not that ur hypothetical works anyway

>>84225651
What you need to know is that you can't tell this early in a relationship, never with some girls. It's 50/50, every outcome is a bad one.

>>84225664
Not planning on it of I ever do get into a relationship hookup. Already 30 though and chances are shrinking. But thanks for the tip anon!

>>84225663
>you arent actually paying the woman in your made up hypothetical.
Yes they are? How do you think yacht parties work lol? Do you think it's a BYOB scenario? Most of the time they pay for transport and even the dresses lmao.
>gain because theyre HOPING for something out of it
Like a prostitute hoping for a regular customer.
>then their parents or whoever prior to them earned the wealth. therefore it's still earned in some capacity.
>why not buy a yacht to impress women with then.
Because there is no difference between this and prostitution except scale.
>yes because this shouldnt be explained to you how a transaction isnt the same lmfao.
I explained how both are transactions.
>also you're literally pulling up the craziest hypothetical to argue.
I went to the extreme to get to the base logic of your argument as it makes it easier to imagine. We could do the same with a house if you prefer which many men and women move out of their parents explicitly to have sex.
>not that ur hypothetical works anyway
You have yet to prove it wrong. Both are transactional at the foundation. One is simply more of an "experience" besides the sex.
So if you prefer we can do either the "house scenario" or the "high class escort" scenario. The first one being where a man is buying an apartment to keep mistresses and or college students in, almost like a sugar baby situation. And the second is paying for the wining and dining experience with added sex at the end.
Or you can come up with your own scenario if that will explain your logic... you don't have to argue mine. But I fear you lack the imagination for it.

>>84225662
It is a difficult decision. My logic was simply that if I got hit by a car tomorrow I wanted to physically expirience sex. So far it is however sex without it's most importante essence. The girl actually wanting to do it with you. I read stori s sometimes about prostitutes who really love their job but they still would slam the door if the customer comes with no money, that is what it comes down too. I could very well be wrong but it did not for example help me be better with women honestly, while I heard it helped others it is no guarantee. Do it if you are concerned about growing old without physically expiriencing it or are concerned about dying before then but do not expect to get the full on expirience like people who fuck women who actually like them do. Unfortunately in my expirience it is not the same and that will still be locked to you. If you do not care about this ramble then by all means go fondle some titties and fuck that wet pussy though, that still feels hella good (I like just the bodily contact alone).

>>84225696
I goddamn hate my phone keyboard for the record.

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>>84225189
A prostitute is way cheaper than a normal fembot and she will probably love you way more than some subhuman man-hating, disgusting looking fembot.

Pay no mind to these worthless beings, they are just semi-sentient cum-dumpesters.

>>84225694
who do you think i am that i know how a yacht party works, i also dont care how a yacht party works or this hypothetical because this is so far detached from even normie lives.

the point is one requires a woman to choose you, the other doesn't. thats what is meant by earning. paying for transport, dresses, the yacht, etc isnt a transaction because sex is not guaranteed, nor is what she wants guaranteed. none of it is guaranteed. if money guarantees it, then you werent chosen, therefore you havent earned it. she can still reject you, choose someone else at the yacht party or leave. it's just not a good comparison idk.

>>84225794
>the point is one requires a woman to choose you
No it doesn't. And if the only requirement is that the women choose you then what is the difference between a prostitute who auctions sex instead?
>paying for transport, dresses, the yacht, etc isnt a transaction because sex is not guaranteed
Yes it is. If they don't put out they won't be invited in these social circles again.
>nor is what she wants guaranteed.
What she wants doesn't matter because she is being bought.
tl;dr the only difference is scale and risk
You're coping. It's all transactional and it's only a negotiation on pricing. Prostitutes are just not engaging with barter economies or "credit" and instead accept direct cash.
Nothing you said has contradicted my original point.

>>84225794
>>84225813
I can prove it with another scenario, that is more relatable as it is "normal"
>Dating a neet with no job and no house
vs
>Dating a wagie with job and house
Both have the same personality and hobbies, but you would choose the wagie because it is a transaction and you want a better deal.

>>84225813
a prostitute choosing a client is still choosing who to sell sex to. the sex is still guaranteed by payment. completely different from someone choosing you as a person where sex isnt guaranteed. choosing who to sell sex to isnt the same as choosing who youre attracted to.

>Yes it is. If they don't put out they won't be invited in these social circles again.
if she can say no and leave, its not prostitution. if you want to call it coercion, thats a different argument. shes not being bought because theres no agreement to exchange sex for money. if she can say no and leave without owing anything, she isnt being bought.

if any of you actually care enough to respond, the op is what i look like. i know it's a little attention seeking to put something like that out there but i'm just making an effort. i hope someone can understand.

>>84225868
>completely different from someone choosing you as a person where sex isnt guaranteed
If someone chooses to date you and doesn't have sex with you that is extremely abnormal.
>choosing who to sell sex to isnt the same as choosing who youre attracted to.
Why are you only attracted to people who make a lot of money or can give you rich experiences?
>if she can say no and leave, its not prostitution.
See sex workers in amsterdam. Are they not prostitutes now?
>shes not being bought because theres no agreement to exchange sex for money.
There is an informal agreement, it is non contractual but there is penalties for not fulfilling your end of the deal.
>f she can say no and leave without owing anything
It is likely that she will be charged for the clothes and transport if the experience she is supposed to provide is not upheld.
I'm curious now what your response is to this post >>84225842
As we will get nowhere with yacht parties since you are ignorant of them.

>>84225842
or maybe im just choosing the guy based on his proven stability, which is attractive to me and therefore a preference? not a transaction? you're just making everything transactional lmfo

>>84225883
You have a higher probability of falling in love with, and living a happily married life, with a prostitute than any femanon on this board.

>>84225890
>his proven stability,
Then you would date someone with no money who hunts for, and farms, all of his own food? But only if he gives you some of the food he works for correct? A transaction, bartering instead of giving you cash.
>you're just making everything transactional lmfo
Because it is. Even in love, rare is a person who loves without reciprocation.

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>>84225883
omg its hogmura!!

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>>84225912
damn I want a magical girl hedgehog gf
I will settle for a regular girl who watches magical girl

>>84225912
i kind of look like that and i feel that way. i just wanted to fit in

>>84225911
mutual benefit isnt the same as a transaction. youre just redefining everything so it all fits your point.
>Because it is. Even in love, rare is a person who loves without reciprocation.
because by your defintion, it is literally impossible to love without it being a transaction. even without reciprocation there is still mutual benefit fyi. we arent going to agree.

>>84225950
>mutual benefit isnt the same as a transaction
>deal
>noun
>an agreement entered into by two or more parties for their mutual benefit

>it is literally impossible to love without it being a transaction
This is a different argument and we can get into the nature of love. My entire argument there would be that most people are not pursuing love at all and love just happens to occur during transactions.
>we arent going to agree.
I never expected you to agree. I expected you to have some logic behind your perspective that is based on logic but you simply don't like the stigma or social status of prostitutes and can't explain yourself.
>it's vibes bro
Is your argument.

>>84225973
i have explained myself but youre stubborn. just go fuck a prostitute and get it out of your system please.

>>an agreement entered into by two or more parties for their mutual benefit
youre ignore the agreement part. inb4 you say getting into a relationship is the agreement. theres no defined terms in a relationship.

>>84225995
>i have explained myself but youre stubborn.
All your arguments were inconsistent with reality and objective definition.
>just go fuck a prostitute and get it out of your system please.
No because I am a believer in true love and think that is not the way to arrive at it. Neither is the modern dating system which prioritizes transactions over the pursuit of love.
>youre ignore the agreement part.
I don't. You only agree to date people who can provide for you and you proved it in your own post earlier.
>theres no defined terms in a relationship.
You defined the terms of a relationship with you earlier. It must be with someone who can provide for you and "appears" to be "stable."
Everyone has different terms, and a different price. I'm sure if someone offers you enough cash you would engage in prostitution, just like most heterosexual men would engage in homosexuality for the right price.

>>84226019
>You defined the terms of a relationship with you earlier. It must be with someone who can provide for you and "appears" to be "stable."

no i didnt i was entertaining your hypothetical i have literally only dated neets. i was the only one with a job in my last relationship

>>84226027
>i have literally only dated neets.
That is fair then, you can actually live with your principles instead of only signalling them. I apologize for the assumption.
> I'm sure if someone offers you enough cash you would engage in prostitution, just like most heterosexual men would engage in homosexuality for the right price.
What do you think of this then? Personally i'd go gay for pay for no less than six figures. Five figures if a consistent customer was guaranteed though i'd prefer a one time transaction of course.