how do u cope with society being a hostile construct to you?
>>84226029You Don't, this is all existence is, and all it ever will be. Physical reality was created and you were given a body to harvest the energy of your soul so the cabal of evil lizard alien people running the world and worshiping the true god were able to attain perfect material wealth and prosperity and probably immortality. When you die your soul will be recycled for the cycle to begin anew, there is probably no way out.
>>84226029what to do if I just realized that pic is literally me
>>84226029Is this a bingo?
Why do I always relate to the symptoms of every single mental illness? Isn't this just describing what being a modern man is like?
>>84226725Because mental illness mostly amplifies traits that already exist. Everyone has features of every disorder. Personality disorders in particular are describing traits that are present in everyone. We're all a little narcissistic, a little avoidant, etc. When you have a personality disorder it means those traits are so strong they prevent you from living a normal life.
>>84226029i just take my meds and hope for the best, sometimes i wish i was born in cave man days and i could be a shaman or something
>>84226725What are the symptoms of the other behavioral disorder?
I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but how can I get this?
>>84226751Go back in time and have your mother completely ignore your needs and wants for the first three years of your life
>>84226756HOW DO YOU KNOW? I have free will, it's not that simple!
>>84226762Bruggy what I don't understand you at allanyway that's the theorized trigger for schizoidism as far as I know
>>84226756Is that really what causes this?I sometimes wonder how my mother felt about me during our first few years together, I'm starting to convince myself that she tried to abort me since I was premature by a handful of weeks, I don't have the balls to ask her, she'd likely lie about it like she lies about never beating my sister and I.
>>84226887>Is that really what causes this?From what I've read it's very common in schizoids, it's my favorite theory for the cause because it's what I'm certain caused mine. Prenatal caloric malnutrition, low birth weight, premature birth increase risk of it. Traumatic brain injury might. Poor parenting including verbal abuse, overly harsh punishments, and lack of supervision. Low parental affection, lack of nurturing, childhood sexual abuse. They're all just risk factors. Some people get hit with all of that and turn out normal.
>>84226029A lot of those traits listed resonate with me, but I'm not certain if my reading of myself is actually accurate. I've never been diagnosed with it but I generally don't open up to people in a full or genuine capacity anyway since playing the role I determine the people around me want feels more practical.
No matter how much I tried and how successful I've become, I still have no friends and nobody really enjoys talking to me or being in my presence
>>84226029I know one schizo and she's a fucking bitch so....
>>84226029I don't leave my house, and I think about killing myself or dropping everything to go on a suicidal adventure "Into the Wild" style almost every single day. I've been buying camping gear and outdoor clothes. I read somewhere that something like 1/8 homeless people have SzPD and it's really easy to understand why.
>>84228287schizophrenia, shcizoid and schizotypal are different
>>84228404i dont want to kms but i fantasize homelessness because i'm probably headed that wayi'm just too lazy to live desu. very diminished desires and emotions
funny how kids aren't self-diagnosing as this because there's no fun quirk. It just sucks and makes you unlikable
>>84228457give it time and they'll co-opt it just like they did to "introvert". in fact, i fully expcet them to eventually conflate the two
>>84226029>overtly noncompetitive>covertly hyper competitiveWhats this? Its what i have
>>84226725you're not reading deep enough. Check out medical journals and you'll see if it describes your childhood and the way your brain works.
>>84226029I was like this but ive recently (like last few years) gotten better. I just decided to be really open with friends and vulnerable. Its helped a ton and made me more confident, because people actually like when you're open and vulnerabile so now im more comfortable being myself. But its saying vulnerabile things in a casual light way instead of a miserable meek, depressed sort of way that makes it acceptable. Being a bummer is no fun, but being open and emotionally relatable is good. Its nice to know I'm jot retarded and was just in a super long emotional stunt.
i am an officially diagnosed schizoid(it sucks)
>>84226158it took you this long?
>>84229004how'd you get diagnosed
>>84226029Learn to play the social game and you can avoid normies ganging up on you out of sheer spite.The main problem is not that society is hostile it's that no matter what you do you are always on the "outside" looking "in". I have been an absolute loner and I have been known among crowds, it makes so little difference. To paraphrase a psychologist:>The schizoid person looks at life like a reporter at an event he is not interested in. He may engage and take notes only to perform the bare necessity of his job, while feeling internally bored and wishing for it to end.
>>84226029I'm coping by quitting my job (been about a year now) and returning to full NEET.
>>84226029i have enough money that i'm not homeless yeti'm owed $20k too loli hope i get paid...
>>84226029I just suffer and hope that one day things will get better
>>84228523>Check out medical journalsFor example?
>>84229014I never knew this was an illness. I thought it was just my personality
just disengage and distance. Every time a normie has tried to shame me into being more normie I just cut them out of my life as much as possible. They seem baffled by this as if their subtle shaming was actually going to change my core wiring. I don't like going outside. I don't like "socialising" (aka covert social and status warfare) and I have zero interest in a career and climbing the ladder.
>>84226887It's the common thread when it comes to nurture.Genetically, on the "nature" side of things there's a link to schizophrenia and that spectrum in general.
>>84226029wow this wikipedia page is LITERALLY me guys!!
>>84229210i broadly agree with the quote but there is more to it than mere boredomwhen you are necessarily excluded from that social event, by your perception, attending it is absolutely devoid of the main appeal but it's also a trial: you wait to be discovered as an outsider and the imposter who is there to drag everybody's mood downthere is a chronic sense of unbelonging and inability to be at easeyou see it >>84230752 here in the relationship dynamics>connection means being a puppet, servant, or slavethis abolition of self is because you yourself are not and are never welcome so finding someone who pilots your vessel for you removes that judgement and transfers the onus of belonging onto another: another who can belong and can be seen to belong
Genetics definitely migrate from person to person. Something discovered recently, not the transposon news but one where it implied stasis caused genes to shift into transposons that could only arrange themselves in another human being in stasis
>>84228457plenty of people do though. it's cool to be a loner who don't need no people and is unbothered by criticism and shit.
>>84231264yeah dude it's so cool to be homeless i'm diogenesmaxxing oh look i have ringworm and scabies
>>84231280peak sigma male
>>84226725Psychology is literally just spiritualism and mysticism with extra steps, the entire field is pseudo science
>>84226029>how do u cope with society being a hostile construct to you?By masking and being just abrasive enough that people won't get too chummy with me. I try to keep clean of everything that isn't necessary for my baseline comfort and that's about all that I have control of.>t. covert
>>84231575>t. covertAre you employed?
>>84231597I haven't worked a single day in my life and I intend to keep it that way.
It's over quite frankly
>>84231671>online testRetard.
>>84231677Not that I put much stock in psychology in the first place but this is basically the same type of questionnaire you'd get if you were sat in a shrink's office - it's not buzzfeed.
>>84231698They still wouldn't be sufficient to conclude that you are schizoid. If you have to self-diagnose, read papers on the disorder instead.
>>84231698No, it's not a semi-structured interview like the SCID-II, which is what you'd actually get, on top of a differential diagnostics procedure, probably focusing on schizophrenic prodrome and autism.
>>84226029Jese fucking christ, guys....
I still have no idea wtf they mean by split ego
>>84231747It basically means some parts of yourself are only accessible in certain situations and states of the mind, and can't be integrated together.E.g. in schizoids the parts of the psyche capable of human interaction and engagement are split off from the parts that contain the schizoids own authentic self, feelings, values, desires, etc. This leads to the schizoid being incapable of being themselves when in contact with other people, and only being capable of proper feeling and feeling alive when they're completely alone and isolated.
Been single and with only a few friends I see every few months for all my adult life now (30 atm). Would be nice to have a gf and more friends and I've half-tried a few times but I just don't like spending time around normal people.
>>84231747My interpretation -- you feel like a robot or a ghost around other people (dissociation) because you're putting on an act, like how wagies have a separate customer service persona different from how they -actually- act when they don't have to fake and bullshit to get paid, except schizoids are putting on that customer service act most of their lives if they aren't lucky enough to have a sustainable living as some type of hermit. "Schizo" = schism = split; you're struggling with a split between having to exist in physical shared reality when you feel much happier in your solitary internal world.
>>84231788that describes me perfectly
>>84231420Spiritualism and mysticism aren't the most convenient opinion to have. Often, these people stand their ground more than psychologists.
>>84226029I paint pictures. Simple as
>>84226029Symptom list describes me perfectly. Was diagnosed in 2017
>>84229141got hospitalized for a month because i ignored depression for years, there they actually talked to me (a lot) and pushed me in correct way to fix my life, i had daily "interviews", group sessions (with alcoholics, bipolars, anorexics, other..), ive done iq test as well, at the end of the stay the doc came to me and told me she had a diagnosis for me if im interested in hearing it, when she told me it made sense, its like when autists get diagnosed when theyre adults and it explains their whole lifeyears later i try to not be my worst self, i have a gf which i love very much but sometimes its visible im emotionally stunted or unable to provide empathy if it at least "doesnt make sense" a little, im forever grateful she doesnt take it personally and i try to make up for it in other ways, basically if we rarely argue i dont feel anything at all, which is frustrating for her because i reply logically, not emotionally
>>84231946can schizoids actually love?
>>84231953>can schizoids actually love?no
>>84231953At least one diocese considers schizoid personality grounds for annulment according to Canon law. So Catholicism has a view that some are inadequate for marriage
>>84226029Working, earning money, buying shit, not depending on someone else, learning to be happy with what I have, etc.
>>84231953its different, i dont experience infatuation or love on first sight, but after years ive built a a deep bond with her which is something ive never felt even with my parents, i would do anything for her and i actively try to minimize my negative quirksi dont know if the diagnosis says one thing or another, but usually these things are somehow flexible meaning if you fit like 4/6 major signs you fit into the categorysomeone might hate sex, others like it, some do like (their version of) relationships, others dread it...
>>84228457But isn't that what is happening right now? For the last couple of years everyone has been talking about it everywhere, before that no one even knew it was a thing. Same with cptsd and auhdd, html and every other yourparentsfailedyou issues. It's the new autism.
>>84231646Lucky bastard, be thankful your parents take care of you. Imagine the life of a schizoid minimum wage slave
>>84232240How do you tolerate it? I'd rather be homeless
>>84232240>be thankful your parents take care of youThey don't.>Imagine the life of a schizoid minimum wage slaveI'd just work as a nightshift security guard and there wouldn't be much difference to my life, since I read books/manga till the sun rises anyway. Only commuting to work might be annoying for the first few months.
>>84232240>Imagine the life of a schizoid minimum wage slavehell on earth
>>84232312I'm hoping I can buy some cheap remote cabin and live there undisturbed
>>84232668I'd do the same thing if I could work
Giving the thread one last pity bump because I liked the discussion in here
>>84226029I have never found someone else in real life who is like this, but maybe I just haven't seen enough people
>>84234304Probably because they stay far away from people if they can help it, and if they're somewhere they have to be, like work, they're masking. It was a lot easier to spot them when staying at home all day and constantly finding a way to avoid social invitations made you a loser weirdo instead of the norm.
>>84226725Barnum effectYou've been muted
