I don't see Americans even understand what their Criminal in Chief is doing:1) So, if Iran operations is not a war, its simply murder, hitting mostly civilians - thus A CRIME 2) Telling the world the current disruption of world economy is not the effect of their killing the Iranian leadership, their wifes and children, while they gathered for a religious holiday, is like bombing the WH while easter ceremonies, taking out the whole Trump administration, plus their families - and then saying: 'Bingo! We won! War's over, just cope and stop blaming us for whatever you claim to do as a reaction.'
3) Everybody knew what was coming, except the illiterate criminal pedo moron who doesn't have the brains or attention span to read even his daily morning briefings: There will be consequences, and Iran is capable to block the most vulnerable bottleneck of world traffic, it provided for just this scenarion since years, even if you destroy most of their army and navy. THEY HAVE ROCKETS AND DRONES GALORE HIDDEN IN THEIR MOUNTAINS WHICH US-FORCES ARE NOT PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO STOP.4) So, this is an illegal 'not-war' purposely directed at Iranian civilians, like 150 school children (DON'T TELL ME A HIGH PRECISION TOMAHAWK MISSILE CAN BE 'MISGUIDED'!!!) while you keep telling the world this 'non-war' was to enable Iranian civilians to topple their undemocratic government - WTF!! IT HAD THE OPPOSITE EFFECT, and nobody in the whole world, not European US allies, not the independent states wherever believe the rationale spread by the Trump administration and their mainstream Fox media.THIS NOW HAS BECOME A WAR AGAINST NOT ONLY INTERNATIONAL LAW, ITS AN ILLEGAL WAR AGAINST THE PEOPLES OF THE WHOLE WORLD SUFFERING FROM THE CONSEQUENCES, NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES
>Hitting mostly civiliansIf america was aiming for civilians then iran would be getting mass depopulated right now lolDidn't read the rest because you're retarded on this premise alonet. bong
>>84234395We know you're right, but im black. If I do the thing my entire race takes a diveYou saw how they tried to criminalize us worse the the pedo in chief after that European girl got stabbed in NC.White folks put him there, White folks are the ones defending him enmasseAnd White folks are responsible for what he does. just remember that the world remembers when this country ultimately pays for this bs.
Americans are fat and dumb. That's why Trump is sitting in office a second time. They don't care.
>>84234403>iran would be getting mass depopulated right now lt isits just your shitty newsfeed that doesn't tell about the thousands of civilian casualties in Teheran et al.surprise...
>>84234588evil dubs checkedbut this is maybe a quite lost argument>getting mass depopulated right nowIran has a population of 86 millionso a few thousand don't count as argument..math.... bet this is from the same kind of person who otherwise says Hitler couldn't have possibly killed that many jews
>>84234588i don't watch fox and you didn't care when the IRGC was shooting up hospitals, funerals, protests etc and the casualties were 30kyou were dead silent until trump did something because you love to suck his old decrepit dickthe IRGC is now calling in airstrikes on their own forces lmao
Dying for israel is literally the highest honor goyim
>>84234655>you didn't care when the IRGC>you were dead silent funny boywhat the fuck do you think you even know about me?The media you denounce as 'liberal' were full of it, directly quoting Iranian protester's voices in their reports of the ongoing massacers, when you still gave a shit this January...so you don't watch Fox and still repeat their shit? Tell me more about your balanced informative media diet, boy'What comes up on my redpilled smartphone'right?
>>84234395>>84234397Well yuronigger, if the whole world is suffering maybe some of your faggots can pitch in and help instead of sitting on your ass doing nothing. Clearly it can't be that bad if your politicians still refuse to get involved.>b-b-but it's not OUR war why should WE do anything?!?Boo hoo, Ukraine wasn't our war but we still helped.
>>84234788>Ukraine wasn't our warCIA literally orchestrated the downfall of Yanukovich's regime
Okay cool, but can you stay in your containment board? You whine about others not staying in theirs, yet you here you are here doing it. So, go back and quit spreading your cancer:>>>/pol/
>>84234788>no one wants to go near your warcrime trash fire>"can't be that bad if your politicians still refuse to get involved"I didn't know foreskin informed the human capacity to think but apparently that's exactly the case
>>84234395Human ego/pride is a frightening thing, the most logical thing to do in this scenario would be to just take the L. This doesn't benefit the US in anyway, it doesn't strengthen the petrodollar, it's just for the greater Israel project. In all likelihood they won't just take the L, they'll double down because of pride and sunk cost, and it'll just escalate. It's frightening these morons have the fate of millions if not billions in their hands.
>>84234435Trump=fat and retarded zionistaverage American=fat and retarded zionistsIt's really not that hard
>>84234788You said you would defend Ukraine if they got rid of their nukes.
>>84234819>just do nothing until Iran gets nukes bro
>>84234788>pitch in and helpfuck younocreating desasters and calling allies to help them out after you failthat's not how it worksafter scolding and abusing them ('we don't need you'), breaking treaties and starting attacks on their own territories (Greenland) out of nothing,ARE YOU KIDDING???>>84234788>Ukraine wasn't our war but we still helpedNo, you didn't and - do you even remember Trump was impeached for blackmailing Ukraine, withholding support, that made Putin confident he could annect the country? And there is a severe difference:Putin thought he could get away with it because he had weakened the NATO by his influernce on Trump already, and he was almost succeeding, when the US withdrew guarantees of existing borders.IRAN IS DIFFERENT, YOU STARTED THIS UNNECESSARY WAR OUT OF NOTHINGWITHOUT EVEN CONSIDERING THE MOST INEVITABLE CONSEQUENCESYOU.FUCKED.UP.
Most of iran liked their government. The extreme minority (psyop'd) that supported the American selected puppet had a protest riot, which failed to gain any support from the citizens who weren't plants. That is not democracy as America defines it. So the war and killing civilians is just enlightening them on what American democracy is about. Do what I say or we will kill you by targeting critical infrastructure; water, food, schools, electricity, hospitals, etc.. Americans are used to living under threats of extreme violence or the risk of becoming a political prisoner like this because we've had democracy for 250 years. Iran was a peaceful theocracy, so the idea that a government would kill citizens unless they support the current thing was a foreign concept. They needed a little demonstration and that is what Trump is providing. America is not a godless country, they are actively opposed to God because that is what the leader of America(Israel) demards. That's the core tenet of democracy, hating God and fighting against him. A little stretch of the sea being blocked a couple of weeks is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
>>84234889>Trump was impeached for blackmailing Ukraine, withholding support,It's called quid pro quo and it's common. Are you also going to mention that Biden threatened Ukraine to withhold information about his criminal crack addict son?
>>84234865With US provocation they're definitely going to get nukes now. They realize you can't negotatiate in good faith, all the good will as been destroyed. Now instead of holding over the potential for a nuke in perpetuide they might as well just actually get one to secure themselves. It's funny that this standard isn't applied to Israel, the logic that Iran shouldn't get a nuke because it's a terrorist state with apocalyptic and messianic prophecies coud literally be said about Israel. Jews are a schizophrenic people who think end times will bring their messiah, and they got nukes via theft and secrecy. If Israel goes down they'll take everyone else down with them (samson option); they are literally the most dangerous people in the world right now. If ww3 happens it will be because of Israel, along with their christgolems. Iran on the other hand has been a much more agreeable and cooperative state.
>>84234897>Iran was a peaceful theocracyAmazing the brownoids/thirdies/leftoids crying their eyes out about "muh heckin war crimes muh illegal war" can call Iran peaceful with a straight face. They fund terrorists and they slaughtered their own citizens in numbers that dwarf anything American bombings have done. Then they chimped out and started indiscriminately attacking their neighbors who did nothing to them after the US started bombing them. It's laughable to play the dindu nuffin card for Iran.
>>84234865Ayatollah Khamenei (the one you killed during Ramadan morning prayer) had issued a fatwa prohibiting Iran to build nukesthere was a treaty that provided for international IAEA experts to inspect and control Iran's facilities - but Trump unilateraly cancelled this treaty during his first term, allowing Iran to go on with its Uranium enrichment facilities Iran is still far away from building the bomb, this was just the Israeli propaganda - and then again: I thought you destroyed all facilities last summer already?Fuck you and your liesIts not done with releasing the Epstein filesthe pedos need to be hold accountable, including Trump himself
>>84234897Why did 36,000 people die protesting the Iranian government right before the war if they mostly liked the regime?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
>>84234897>peaceful theocracynigga they fund guerrilla shia groups and kill protestors It's completely rational to not want war with Iran, but don't act like Islamic Republic is some heckin innocent poor resisters
>>84234925Exactly. How can you say democracy is bad when democracy propaganda says they were funding terrorists and already doing democracy? If we kill enough civilians then they won't be able to kill anymore civilians because there won't be any left. The fact they struck US targets in retaliation to democracy attacking them is proof they deserve it.
>>84234945>>84234964Remember remember the sixth of January
>>84234983Just because America sucks doesn't mean Iran doesn't suck more
>>84234923Israel shouldn't have nukes either. I would be happy if every Jew and Muslim in the world dropped dead right now. We'd all be much better off without these sand people. That said, "Israel has nukes so Iran should be allowed to have nukes too" is retarded. Allowing more unstable, paranoid countries to have nukes is not good.As for negotiating in good faith, before attacking the US offered Iran free nuclear fuel for power plants if they gave up their own uranium enrichment and they turned it down. Why else would they reject that offer if not because they are trying to make nukes? While we're talking about good will remember Iran has been in a war with the US since 1979, they chant "Death to America" all the fucking time and they funded multiple terrorist attacks against the US. Does that sound like behavior from a regime that is interested in building good will and negotiating in good faith towards peace?>>84234937I thought you destroyed all facilities last summer already?Facilities can't be rebuilt or hidden?
>>84234395What stake do you have in our buisness lol. Also mooslims are all gross cultist extremists who would gladly slaughter the non believers if they had the power to like their holy book literally commands. But somehow they're the victims despite constantly perpetuating violence in the middle east for decades now.
>>84234395Trump is a paid asset just like every US president in like the last 40 years.>drumpf bad manIs just low IQ and shows you're easily manipulated. Not that I think more desert wars for Israel is a good thing or anything.
>>84235004>free nuclear fuel for Iran deal>I give you free fuel, no catch>please ignore the next 5,000 pages of laws that will be enacted as a condition of accepting our generous giftThey do this shit to Americans in our own country. The Happy Nice Thing Bill. Anyone who opposes it doesn't like happy nice things. Buried in the crate of legalese is mandatory buttplugs and shock collars for everyone, $6 gorillion dollars to some random NGO to turn frogs gay, and removing religious tax exemptions.America made the offer in bad faith because if Iran refuses the offer of Happy Nice Thing that makes them look bad. That was the entire point, political theater and pretext for attacking them without provocation.
>>84234945They didn'tbut thats not the point..just like taking out Maduro wasn't about reinstalling the legitimate government. Trump didn't even take into account there was a legally elected, now opposition, which would be the legitimate leaders of Venezuela.He made oil deals with Maduro's minions, who are still oppressing the people's willSo what the hell are you talking about?HE IS BOMBING CIVILIANS IN TEHERAN, WHILE ASKING THEM TO STEP UP AGAINST THEIR GOVERNMENT????
>>84235059>The Happy Nice Thing Bill. Anyone who opposes it doesn't like happy nice things. Buried in the crate of legalese is mandatory buttplugs and shock collars for everyone, $6 gorillion dollars to some random NGO to turn frogs gay, and removing religious tax exemptions*citation needed*thank you for giving us a grand tour through your brainnever thought anyone could believe this shitDo you even see you gave half a trillion to Musk for destroying administrations that were keeping up civic life in America?That the only reason for you having to pay tariffs is that it was a means for Trump to collect bribes from foreign leaders?That Trump is paying himself millions of taxpayers' money as 'restitution' for having been held accountable for his crimes, while weaponizing the now corrupt DoJ against Democrat lawmakers, independent judges and attorney generals that were doing their job?This is getting real now, when US soldiers start dying for his lunacy
>>84235155Democrats do the exact same shit to weaponize the DoJ when they're in power. Remember how the Biden administration left no stone unturned to punish anyone who attended J6 to the fullest extent of the law while simultaneously being completely powerless to prosecute anyone who participated in the year of coast to coast, fiery but mostly peaceful Burn Loot Murder protests? Same thing with bribes too, just ask Crackhead Hunter about Burisma.
>>84235155I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. The content seems to be yes but your tone is like you're trying to disagree? The DOGE was a Happy Nice Thing Bill, it's a trick. Sending less money out of the country is a good thing, and tariffs are protectionary. The problem is Trump and Musk are democracy, so it's used exactly like I said, wrongly.
>>84234788Theres a difference between supporting /selling weapons to a country under attack by a larger nation, who several decades ago Promised not to invade as long as they did not join NATO (they didnt) and attacking another country for undisclosed reasons.>b-b-but enriched uraniumGreat, but the pentagon has already stated that there was no indications that the US was under threat of attack. Israel wants to fuck around with people living on the Gaza Strip and stirred up this shit show. If the US wanted to get involved in the same capacity as the Ukraine war then they should have stuck to arming Israel and their defenses - not get involved directly which is exactly what trump has done. The hypocrisy is jarring.
>>84235236sorry...your irony was lost on meI'm really really angry
>>84234983>It's ok for the Revolutionary Guard to open fire on a crowd of unarmed protestors because some retards played Melty Blood in Pelosi's office half a decade agoThis is a strange phenomenon among people who hate America. America has problems, but objectively, it's one of the best places in the world to live. It's vastly better than Iran, by a long shot. The US having problems and Iran being a shithole are not mutually exclusive.
>>84235324I don't remember iran bombing us for Jan 6. So that's something to consider.
>>84235371I don't remember tens of thousands of people getting executed by the government on January 6th, thirdie.
>>84235213kekdseems you stepped into some Fox shit..if J6 was not an insurrection, a violent attack on the Constitutional transition of democratically elected governance, what else?Hunter??? Are you serious? Like - trying to pull the Hillary's-emails-trick a second time, another Hunter's laptop October surprise?But lets look at corruption - Trump doesn't even hide what he is doing, making tons of money out of the presidency in the first place, getting bribed by foreign leaders, stacking administrations with lobbyists, destroying every control functions thzatb were set up for generations, issuingh unconstitutional executive orders on a daily basis and ignoring courts' orders trying to stop his illegal corrupt behavior.The sheer dimension of this corruption, open for everybody to see - and all you can answer are such flimsy excuses? You're funnyWhy don't you go to war an die?
Actually Iran sent a ceasfire proposal worth considering
>>84235406>herp derp Fox News bad therefore Joe Biden didn't use his crackhead son to get bribes, including bribes from a company linked to the CCPOK faggot, you're right Democrats are perfect and only Republicans have ever abused power and the media you consume is perfectly unbiased
>>84235371So you're saying that a bunch of idiots breaking into the capital (resulting in one idiot being killed) is the same as the Revolutionary Guard mowing down thousands of protestors? Stop simping for Iran, almost everyone hates the Mullahs and for a good reason. Even the Iranian people hate them.>>84235406It wasn't an insurrection. Most of the people involved weren't charged with insurrection, they were charged with lesser crimes and given extremely heavy sentences. And if Hunter dindu nuffin why did his father have to pardon him even after promising not to?
>>84235435>>herp derp Fox News bad therefore Joe Bidendidn't expect retrads to understand what they read anyway>>84235440>breaking into the capitalCapitolits Capitolboy, get some education, this is embarrassing
>>84235459>"Minor spelling mistake? I win"Embarrassing for you, maybe.
>>84235459I understand that if Trump gave one of his kids a blanket pardon right before he left office you'd be screaming about corruption and abuse of power, but there's no problem with Joe Biden doing exactly that for his son.
>>84235440It is not the same because America attacked. Iran didn't attack when the US killed or made political prisoners of peaceful demonstrators. It's none of Iran's business. If you don't like Jan 6 example we could use the fentanyl Floyd riots as another example. Iran did not attack the US when protesters were burning entire cities down and openly murdering people. What Iran does to random dissidents is similarly none of America's business.This is entirely irrelevant to the discussion unless you are saying that a small group of Iranian rebels is the reason US bombed random civilians. Or was there hamas tunnels under the schoolchildren? It's hard to follow your narrative because it changes every couple of minutes.
>>84235660Iran didn't attack us because they lack the capacity to. But moreover, it would be suicide. When we invaded Iraq, Saddam was captured within a month and his regime was completely dismantled. If Iran were to attack America, they exact same thing would happen to them, and they know it. They boast about their strength and shout "death to America" but it's all posturing. Instead they fund Shia terrorists and separatist groups all around the middle east.Everyone knows that the reason the US invaded Iran is because Trump is Israel's lapdog. I'm not claiming we invaded because they killed a bunch of protestors, and never did. No one did. All I'm trying to say is that your "but the USA bad too" argument is retarded and you know it. It's you who's had to change your argument over and over, making absurd comparisons and then changing the subject whenever anyone points out how absurd they are. The only thing anyone has ever said is that the Mullahs have killed more of their own people than Trump has, but somehow you see them as the victims in this situation, because of some random unrelated thing that happened elsewhere in the world. At this point, I'm starting to believe you're actually some goatfucker shill trying to trick me into having a positive opinion of Iran. Unfortunately you're doing a very poor job, thirdie.
>>84235749I've been consistent. War bad and America bad. Iran is it's own country and we should not have intervened. America is against Iran so all I know is that means Iran must be good. That's it.Whatever justification for the attacks I'm dismantling just for fun because I have nothing better to do, same as the people justifying it with bullshit like muh weapons of mass destruction. I'm against the war and nothing will change that. People in favor of attacking random countries for no reason will continue supporting that and nothing will change their opinion.Just another Friday night on the internet while there's a current thing. I'm starting to think you're indian and probably trying to convince me my country is good so that daddy Trump gives you an h1b or green card.
listening to propaganda is better for you than this place and it's massive levels of delusional cope I can't tell if the brownoid is joking when he's wondering if iran will invade because he's a /pol/fag and all he can do is pretend to be superior and cope
>>84234983How many peopk died on the sixth of January?>>84235099They did though On 25 January, Time reported that a specific list included 30,304 protest-related deaths registered in civilian hospitals for 8 and 9 January alone.[3] The same day, Iran International estimated the total number of deaths at ~36,500.[4] On 28 January, The Guardian reported that the death toll could be more than 30,000, and that less than 10% of deaths may have been officially registered.[10] AP News reported that the government's overwhelming use of violence had caused despair among the Iranian public and had given rise to hopes among some citizens for an American attack.[11] Several scholars have argued that the Iranian government now faces a fragile state that could lead to its demise.[12]
>>84235155His citation would be the PATRIOT ACT which violated the 4th amendment. The DREAM ACT offered amnesty for illegal aliens.
>>84235922Iran unfortunately has no interest in invading and I've yet to see anything suggesting this will change. They just want to be left alone. Israel is the one invading everyone. Attacking Christian churches and landmarks in Lebanon even though they already nearly completely genocided the Christian population there and in Jordan already.
>>84234395>its simply murder, hitting mostly civiliansiran killed more of their own civilians this year than us, killings ordered by the late ayytoilet himself, may he burn in hellfire for all eternity alongside all his dead irgc goons
>>84236220>iran killed more of their own civilians this year than us???So us killing civilians undoes the killing of other civilians or... I genuinely have no clue. What are you trying to say?
>>84236335he's trying to say you don't actually care about civilians dying and instead only use their corpses to elevate your agendahe's right too and everyone can see it
>>84236403That makes no sense. If they don't care about dead citizens then they wouldn't care if America increases the death toll. That's the exact opposite of what we're seeing here. I guess some people are just so evil they are incapable of understanding that some people think murder is wrong.>you think killing is wrong umm well ackchually that's hypocrisy because if we don't kill civilians there will be less dead civiliansOr maybe it's just projecting. Who knows?It doesn't matter because regardless of the flawed reasoning ,they are still wrong.
>>84236513The reasoning is sound and you're just coping. They didn't care about the IRGC killing 30k+ but care about the USA killing 100+ (at most)It's performative, as it always is.
>>84236526So just making shit up is how intelligent discussion works now?You don't actually believe anything you claim to believe. You only want to rape children and eat chocolate chip chicken nuggets dipped in poopy diarrhea. I don't give any consideration to what your kind has to say because I think you are a bad person and by extension anything you think is bad too.
>>84236593>So just making shit up is how intelligent discussion works now?Tell me what you think I made up?>You don't actually believe anything you claim to believe. Facts don't require belief.>You only want to rape children and eat chocolate chip chicken nuggets dipped in poopy diarrhea.That's you.>I don't give any consideration to what your kind has to say because I think you are a bad person and by extension anything you think is bad too.So you're retarded and ideologically captured? Thanks for letting me know.>venezeulans; celebrating>cubans; celebrating>iranians; celebrating>lefties; seething
>>84234395>gathered for a religious holidayso it raised the average world IQ
>>84236605>Tell me what you think I made up?I already told you. No point repeating myself to shit eating kiddy diddlers >Facts don't require belief.You only believe in raping kids and eating turds>That's you.Rubber meet glue, that's you. >So you're retarded and ideologically captured? Thanks for letting me know.More projecting. Don't you ever get tired of proving me right? >venezeulans; celebratingVenezuela is in South America, idiot>cubans; celebratingCuba is in the ocean, idiot>iranians; celebratingThey aren't celebrating but partial credit is due I guess, Iran is in Iran. Congratulations on having achieved some degree of geography knowledge. >lefties; seethingNo matter how much you seethe you and all other lefties will always be wrong. Consider that your diet that is high in literal feces may be making your numerous brain problems even worse. You should probably stop doing that. Maybe stop defending murder too. It's one thing if you don't care, but just be honest and say that. You can state your wrong opinions without claiming everyone else thinks the same way you do.
>>84236693>I already told you.Liar.Everywhere trump has touched celebrates except the EU because we are cucked.>Maybe stop defending murder too.It's not murder and I never defended it. I just pointed out your virtue signalling hypocrisy.
>>84236720I don't think the raped kids are celebrating. You are illiterate so I'm trying to be patient, it's a common condition for lefties. You don't know what the words virtue, hypocrite, or signal means. Please pick up a dictionary and stop embarrassing yourself. Europe is enough of a joke already without you adding your clown act to it.
>>84236968I'm not left or right and I don't know why you think i'm either. Voting is a scam.
>I post my schizo /pol/ threads here instead of /pol/ because fewer people will call me a retarded faggot
>>84234395OP is a brown subhuman
