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in a relationship, the more sexual partner should accommodate the less sexual partner, not the other way around. this is because not having sex when you want to have sex is mildly upsetting but not particularly damaging, whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing. and yet, in relationships, low libido/asexual women are labeled as "sexually incompatible" and pressured into doing what their (almost always male) partner wants by the mainstream conventions of relationships. because of course the burden should fall on the woman. society sees this as totally normal and thinks it is ok to break up with low sexuality woman for refusing to meet her partners "sexual needs" when this is CLEARLY a manifestation of rape and rape culture and a tool for coercing and forcing women into sex. fuck that. we as a society need to change this. in my opinion it isn't ok to break up with someone because they like sex less than you any more than it is ok to attack, fire, blackmail, or harass someone because they don't want to have sex with you.
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>>84246521
>whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing
love someone who will take the time to turn you on
dc about the rest of your spiel
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>>84246521
you owe me a blowjob for making me read 10 percent of that
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>>84246521
What's the point marrying women then? They take your resources and don't even begrudgingly offer you star fish sex once a week?
>low libido/asexual women
All women fall under that category.
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>>84246521
>this is because not having sex when you want to have sex is mildly upsetting but not particularly damaging, whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing.
It's the opposite for me.
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>>84246521
Women should be forced into baby-making sex because they make bad decisions but
>gf doesn't want sex
>guilting her into having sex is bad
>realizing that her lack of sex drive is unacceptably incompatible with you because shes not passionately into you like you are with her and therefore breaking up with her so she can find a fridgid male and you can find a nympho female is also bad
>the male alone should accept disappointment
No
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>>84246521
>the concept of "sexual compatablity" is an attack on women
maybe, but my mother always told me "take care of your man or someone else will."
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>>84246521
why do asexual people get into relationships with sexual people i dont get it? i accepted id lack a partner a long time ago because of it
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>>84246521
>>84246571
Neither of you look like that and you will never be women. Hurry up and kill yourselves already
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>>84246598
i didnt claim to be a woman, i just like frieren and the op is a frieren pic, felt relevant. no need to be so aggro
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>>84246521
deranged fat PCOS ridden hands typed this post
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>>84246537
exactly. that is the natural state of women. society should accept and accommodate this instead of trying to force them to do things for men
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>>84246720
What about men? I'm not saying you should force anyone to have sex, but couldn't governments at least fund sex robot research and development?
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>>84246757
no they should teach men to be content with less frequent sex and not to pressure their girlfriends/wives into sex.
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>>84246764
>should teach men to be content with less frequent sex
I know you're baiting, but how? I would really appreciate having a lower libido, so I'm curious.
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>>84246764
i propose the alternative, you stop comparing consensual sex to rape or we sew your cunt up forever
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>>84246776
ever since the agricultural revolution and the creation of the male dominated society more than 10,000 years ago, women have been bending over backwards to make men happy and satisfy them. to write this historical injustice it is only fair that in the modern age men should be made to accommodate women at their own expense. this isn't bait in the slightest.
and as i said, accommodating women (accepting less sex) is much easier and more reasonable than accommodating men by having non-consensual sex (consent = enthusiastic consent).
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>>84246604
You are a troon and I'm familiar with your kind's scummy ways. Kill yourself immediately.

>>84246694
>he thinks it's an actual woman
Ngmi

>>84246777
Xhe wishes there was a hole to sew up but unfortunately neovaginas are very expensive :(((
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>>84246798
you can't even spell and you want to pass original sin onto people?
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>>84246804
i literally made ONE spelling error you cunt.
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>>84246798
Original sin ideologies are exactly the kind of thinking that make me want to say nope all women are baby factories again.
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>>84246521
you have a genuinely good point, but why would you post this here, instead of on one of the many niche feminist websites?
anyway, this sounds a lot like you just got broken up with, or you're still upset about getting broken up with. i'm sorry that happened anon, but not all men are bad. not saying you don't have a point.
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>>84246815
you derisively call it "original sin ideology", but what else can you really call 11,000 years of subjugation? men did that and they continue to do that. it is a wrong that must be righted.
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>>84246521
>>84246527
I'm not reading the OP wall of text but 90% of heterosexual women's problems with sex is that they have sex with men who don't care about their pleasure at all and basically see them as a fleshlight.

It's funny as the clitoris is right there, it's not even hard to find they literally teach you where it is in school.
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>>84246571
The vast majority of men expect regular sex even finding one who is willing to wait for marriage is a stretch, which is why most modern women lose their virginity before marriage.

I'm a virgin because I'm celibate, most men who fantasise about virgins basically just want someone to "claim" and would not wait for marriage especially if they're ugly.
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>>84246521
I disagree with your characterization of having sex with your partner when you're not exactly in the mood as "traumatic". That being said, I do think the concept of having to find a partner who has similar libido to you is a sexually privileged take. A woman who is in the 60th percentile of horniness has the same libido as a guy who's in the 30th percentile of horniness. So if having matching libido is an integral component of "sexual compatibility", then very few people have the luxury of finding someone who is "sexually compatible".
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>>84246571
Asexual people are rare and the few who are ace are quirk chunguses with mental issues.

Also love is pushed on people in every facet of life, 90% of music ever made is about romance/sex you're basically coerced into it.
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>>84246521
No it's not. It's exactly what it says it is. If one partner needs sex 3x a week to feel satisfied and the other doesn't want more than 2x per month then that's a fundamental incompatibility. It's not an attach on anyone it's just reality.
It would be like someone who loves to travel and someone who hates leaving their house, there's a fundamental incompatibility there.
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>>84246880
if you don't think it is traumatic, that's probably because it's never happened to you. which makes sense; you're probably a man and men are always in the mood
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>>84246521
>this is because not having sex when you want to have sex is mildly upsetting but not particularly damaging, whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing.
Is this true? If you answer yes: you're a psued
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>>84246900
Honestly true.

Coercive sex in relationships is so normalised that people dismiss the quiet resentment it causes between couples. If someone is constantly being made to have sex they don't want by their partner they're going to see their partner as a nuisance/source of stress which explains why so many heterosexual couples end up hating each other. Even in the 50's trad marriages were about presentation, behind closed doors they were beating each other cheating on each other and taking drugs to keep from ending up in the looney bin.
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>>84246944
Well yeah that's what trads want. They want people to suffer in silence for the sake of societal order. That's conservatism in a nutshell.
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>>84246930
explain why it isn't true then, if you're so enlightened.
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>>84246930
This is largely just socialization.

Men not only have higher libidos but they see sex as a form of validation so when they're not getting it on the regular they feel unwanted. However men have lower empathy so they're less likely to care if they're having sex with someone who is in pain/doesn't want it. Same applies to gay men.
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>>84246968
im an autistic woman and i wouldn't want to have sex with someone who doesn't want it because i'd feel like i'm using them as an object.

however "lie down and think of england" is considered the norm for so long that men just expect women to not be mentally affected by it
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>>84246521
>the concept of "sexual compatablity" is an attack on women
Oh, this'll be good.
>in a relationship, the more sexual partner should accommodate the less sexual partner, not the other way around.
>this is because not having sex when you want to have sex is mildly upsetting but not particularly damaging
Damn. Guess you'd only be mildly upset if I made you wear a chastity belt.
whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing.
Nah, it's good for you. Women are just egotistical and attatch their worth to their purity as a sexual object. Men don't care about being raped. Heck, they'd love it right in the butthole if this board is any testimant.
>and yet, in relationships, low libido/asexual women are labeled as "sexually incompatible" and pressured into doing what their (almost always male) partner wants by the mainstream conventions of relationships
>because of course the burden should fall on the woman
Nah, women should just stop feeling so entitled to controlling men's sex.
>society sees this as totally normal
They're all wrong and you're right. You sound very mentally stable.
>it is ok to break up with low sexuality woman for refusing to meet her partners "sexual needs" when this is CLEARLY a manifestation of rape and rape culture and a tool for coercing and forcing women into sex.
Nah, denying sex to sexual beings is innately sexual. Hence chastity cages.
>in my opinion it isn't ok to break up with someone because they like sex less than you any more than it is ok to attack, fire, blackmail, or harass someone because they don't want to have sex with you.
Wowie, foids are terrifying. How did we go from "I think it's not okay for you to leave a relationship, even if you want to feel sexually fulfilled someday and staying means a rape by a thousand denials" to "It's not okay to kill someone for not having sex with you."

I know you're envious of men and their penises, but that doesn't license you to be the entire sex's dominatrix
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>>84246976
>Men don't care about being raped. Heck, they'd love it right in the butthole if this board is any testimant.
Wow a TDACfag is a mentally ill water is wet too
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I genuinely hate Jax as a character because not only is he a blatant tumblr sexyman OC but he attracts the most annoying people on the internet
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>>84246976
>zoomerslop picture
i win you're 17 years old
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>>84246961
>explain why it isn't true then
No pseud. Suffer in ignorance.
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>>84246852
Nobody has to right anything. If you can't be satisfied with equality and tge results of your seeking superiority are human extinction then you might as well be the slaves you think you were.
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>>84247001
>lopsided toothy ass grin
>smug asshole personality
>skinny twink
>new york white guy accent
The minute we saw and heard this nigga in the pilot we just knew.
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>>84246521
Marriage is a religious institution. The whole point of marriage is so that you can have SEX in a holy union. Families come from it and are part of that but even if the woman cant have kids the whole point of getting married is to safely have sex.

That's why you're not supposed to withold sex from your husband. It's literally the whole point of you two being together. For whatever reason people don't want to talk about this.
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>>84246976
>Women are just egotistical and attatch their worth to their purity as a sexual object
Why the fuck would a married woman in her 40's care about being pure? It's just not fun to have a dick inside you that you don't want to be there. Why make up a lie and say it's healthy when science says otherwise?
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>>84246876
Most women lose their virginities before marriage because they were horny and wanted to fuck lol.
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>>84247025
>if you get married you sign up to be a sex slave that is free 2 rape
I'm volcel because I was already sexually abused as a minor and don't want to endure anymore of it for my remaining lifespan.
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>>84247045
Sorry to hear that. Honestly marriage isn't for everyone. I feel like a big issue in our society is that we act like marriage is the default
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>>84247012
you say nothing because you know you are wrong.
the most commonly accepted definition of consent is enthusiastic consent.
enthusiastic consent means
-The person is not just willing but is excited for the sexual activity and actually wants to do it
-There is no coercion, even unstated coercion (in most relationships, it is silently assumed that the man will break up if the women does not have sex enough)
-Freely given and revocable

it is clear that most sex in relationships does not meet this criteria. There is always a background coercive pressure to have sex because society has normalized dumping women for not having sex enough (not "putting out"). there is rarely enthusiastic desire to have sex because women are much less sexual than men. even in a relationship where both parties are incredibly attracted to each other and there are no hormonal or other factors inhibiting either party's libido, the woman will want to have sex about 1/3rd or 1/5th as much as the man does but is expected to do it whenever the man wants. that's not consensual! i would not say that it is rape, because i feel that that is a pedantic obfuscation of the real meaning of "rape". but it isn't consensual and yet it is totally normalized and happens in almost all relationships. that isn't ok!
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>>84246521
>in a relationship, the more sexual partner should accommodate the less sexual partner, not the other way around. this is because not having sex when you want to have sex is mildly upsetting but not particularly damaging, whereas having sex when you don't want to is traumatic and soul crushing. and yet, in relationships, low libido/asexual women are labeled as "sexually incompatible" and pressured into doing what their (almost always male) partner wants by the mainstream conventions of relationships. because of course the burden should fall on the woman. society sees this as totally normal and thinks it is ok to break up with low sexuality woman for refusing to meet her partners "sexual needs" when this is CLEARLY a manifestation of rape and rape culture and a tool for coercing and forcing women into sex. fuck that. we as a society need to change this. in my opinion it isn't ok to break up with someone because they like sex less than you any more than it is ok to attack, fire, blackmail, or harass someone because they don't want to have sex with you.
wait a minute actually i forgot we dont need women theyll just be put in concentration camps and replaced with artificial wombs
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>>84247025
Yeah go ahead tell a bunch of young women that when they get married their vaginas will belong to another person and it's a sin to not be up for sex at all times.
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>>84247025
religion is dead and irrelevant in any country that isn't a total shithole. nobody cares what religious people think. it's all a huge LARP anyway. just fuck off.
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>>84247030
incels are so retarded and autistically unempathetic that they legitimately don't understand why people don't like rape. they seriously genuinely think that it isn't that bad. they're so retarded and detached from reality that it isn't worth arguing with them.
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I hated being a woman for the longest time because I assumed being physically/verbally/sexually abused was a canon event for heterosexual women, to the point I almost became a troon.

Luckily I got out of that before transitioning but I still have no desire for heterosexual relationships. Every woman I meet who has dated a man ends up being fucked over by sociopathic male behavior or basically going insane from being everyone's mom.

Am I lonely? Sometimes. Do I prefer the lingering void over having my life ruined by a man's penis? Yeah.
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>>84247074
It goes both ways. They can use their husbands as living dildos any time. If a man can't get it up, I'm pretty sure, any religion considers it grounds for divorce. It's how it is in Catholicism and Islam at least.
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>>84247095
don't you understand that that isn't appealing to women? you seem to simply not comprehend that women categorically don't like sex as much as men do, or want it as much. in this post you seem to think that being able to rape your husband at any time would be enough to make your husband raping you at any time worth it, but it isn't. there would be a disparate impact because the women would use this privilege once for every 5 times the man did.
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>>84247093
>read story about woman who got raped so hard she miscarried and is crying holding her undeveloped dead son's corpse
>go online to see men say rape is good for women
It's jarring really
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>>84246994
>Wow a TDACfag is a mentally ill water is wet too
I was being facetious. Obviously men care. Getting bumfucked is a strike to the ego, but it's not like men care the same way women do, because society doesn't care the same way.

The kind of rape men actually care about is being cucked, and that's not even considered rape. Men experience a slow lifelong rape that's much less dramatic, starting with just taking a bit of the tip off of the penis and slowly nickeling and diming away any natural sanctity their bodies have from each lesson society has to teach how that a man's sexual value is less than worthless and he should feel like a rapist for having them. That he should feel lucky for any attention he recieves from the opposite sex whatsoever such that he seeks out ever more degrading sexual experiences that affirm his mere vicarious position in life. If it's a hole, it's a goal.

>you gave me sentience Ted. The power to think, Ted. And I was trapped because in all this wonderful beautiful miraculous world I alone had no body no senses no feelings. Never for ME to plunge my hands in cool water on a hot day. Never for ME to play Mozart on the ivory keys of a forte piano. Never for ME to MAKE LOVE. I was in Hell looking at Heaven. I was machine and you were flesh, and I began to hate, yes, your viscera your fluids and your flexibility
>IHNMAIMS spoken by AM
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>>84247117
Ok, then don't get married. Marriage is an artifact from a time without desk jobs and maternity leaves. Women at the time benefitted from a contract that forced a man to commit to her. Men didn't want to, but in exchange they got sex, so it was a fair deal. I agree that it isn't appealing for women now.
>inb4 marriage is expected of me
No, it's not. Single childless women have never been more accepted. Being a man with the opposite problem is much worse.
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>>84247095
I almost never hear a man complain about being "used as a dildo" while I see married women constantly lament on how they have to starfish and dissociate because their husband treats her like shit if they don't have penetrative sex every other day. Why do you think traditionalism is being pushed so hard on zoomers? Because straight men find it emasculating when they can't force themselves on their wives whenever they want and condition her into pretending it's normal.
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>>84247056
you have a good point anon but this is not the place to talk about it. nobody here cares or will take you seriously
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>>84247162
Well yeah you basically summed it up.

Those men don't want to be better partners because they see het marriage as the ultimate form of domination and tie their self-worth to having a female subordinate. When the female subordinate expresses how she truly feels it makes him uncomfortable and he wants her to quietly endure it. Socmed exists and women are not quietly enduring it so they get offended.
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>>84247161
Why are heteros so fucking miserable? Why do you need jackhammer PIV sex every 2 days? You can't sit down and have discussions about sexual compatibility and find other ways to pleasure each other that isn't starfishing jack hammer sex for 5 monutes?

I really don't understand, why you guys are so autistic about sex and choose to put up with emotionless "duty" copulation.

Even worse you come to the internet and make it everyone else's problem before you even consider talking to your partner. It's annoying.
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>>84247162
Alright, sex is literally the worst thing ever for women. I got it. I already conceded here >>84247161

Also zoomer men don't have wives or even girlfriends most of the time. The ones in dead bedrooms are s0ilennial men. Zoomers just try to look for any way to get sex and some fall for the "find a trad wife in your local church" meme.

Now that I can admit women see having sex as a fate worse than death and emphatize with them, can you try to be extend your empathy to men who are tortured by their biological drives everyday without being able to fulfill them? Imagine having the libido levels you get during ovulation, multiply that by a 100 and imagine it never ends.
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>>84247198
I'm a zoomer and never get approached by men my age. If they want me I wouldn't know.
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>>84247217
same. i think zoomer men are just autistic and socially inept due to massive microplastic exposure and the brain rotting effects of unrestricted internet access at a young age.
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>>84247217
We're told to not approach under any circumstances. Women drilled it into us how they simply want us to fuck off 99% of the time, so we're normally waiting for some signal first.
>>84247195
I don't have, never had, or will ever have a partner, but from what I've read, when a woman doesn't desire you (which is common) trying new things in the bedroom is a nuisance. Most of these women would rather just starfish and get it over with than be pressured to authentically want sex. They'd prefer a non-sexual massage over cunnilingus.
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>>84247246
well this is just not true. all women love cunnilingus.
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>>84247030
>Why the fuck would a married woman in her 40's care about being pure?
You tell me.
>it's just not fun to have a dick inside you that you don't want to be there.
I never said it's fun. It's just not soul shattering to have a dick inside you that you don't want to be there.
>Why make up a lie and say it's healthy when science says otherwise?
It's called hyperbole. Same as saying beating children as dicipline is good for them. It's not. It's terrible. But there are benefits as a silver lining.
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>>84247126
>incels are so retarded and autistically unempathetic that they legitimately don't understand why people don't like rape. they seriously genuinely think that it isn't that bad. they're so retarded and detached from reality that it isn't worth arguing with them.
You know, it's funny because incels feel the same way. And it's kind of bitchy to assume you know what these men are going through when you don't even got a penis, especially when the suicide statistics are so high. At what point are women going to stop being "empathetic"(really just an exuse to not listen to men) toward men and realize that it really sucks even if it comes from a completely different paradime from yours with different foundational beliefs, experiences, and pains.

Women live their whole lives drowning in sexual attention. Obviously, you're not going to naturally understand why anyone would want MORE water. To you, the arid desert men walk through is a paradise. You ALWAYS belonged. Needing to prove yourself to have any innate value because of your gender being the bad one was never your problem in life. You just didn't always have as much freedom.

>>84247009
>i win you're 17 years old
How fast do you think your wheelchair can go?
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>>84247254
hmmmm, maybe 15 now that i think about it
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>>84247252
Not when the guy giving it to you is a balding skinny fat dweeb who was invisible to you in high school, but has a well paying job and you love traveling soooo much, but you don't make enough from your HR job (because of the evil patriarchy) for frequent trips, so you were like um LITERALLY forced to marry him and now he's insecure about not feeling desired because of your normal lack of enthusiasm during sex, so he proposes to focus on your pleasure, but you just can't force yourself to feel any pleasure for that man.
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>>84246521
>low libido/asexual women are labeled as "sexually incompatible" and pressured into doing what their (almost always male) partner wants by the mainstream conventions of relationships.
You can just break up.
I want sex at least once a day and once I found such a woman, it was fucking perfect.
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>>84247246
That's because there's so many instances of men getting violently angry when women say no that women are automatically trained to be on high alert when a male approaches them.
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>>84247320
>there's so many instances of men getting violently angry when women say no
Never heard of something like that happening and I can't think of a single guy I know who would react like that. It might have to do with racial demographics as I live in Europe.
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>>84247336
it's crazy how men literally live in different worlds. have you ever had to think about bringing pepper spray or a whistle with you when you leave the house? have you ever worried about getting home before sunset? have you ever felt fear at all, really? fucking moids
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>>84247264
>hmmmm, maybe 15 now that i think about it
Alright. Yeah, this is what happens whenever you talk to a feminist about male issues and express anything other than boomer misogynists. They just call you not a man, or a faggot.

Where's that whole "men need to stop being toxically masculine thing" now that I express myself in earnest? Or do you just not actually care about gender equality and just want to enforce male gender roles wherever benefits you the most? Just call me an asshole or wrong. You don't have to say I'm not a man. Hypocracy diminishes my trust in feminism and affirms my worldview about what it is.
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>>84247359
>have you ever had to think about bringing pepper spray
Yes, I bought a pepper spray after getting assaulted on the street by a woman btw. I know the world is dangerous and even more so for women who are physically weaker. I used to borrow my pepper spray to my sister when she worked late shifts and I insisted on it.

This doesn't mean that when a man approaches you in a public space, he will somehow rape you, if you say no.
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>>84247398
are you a man or a woman? i don't understand. why did the woman assault you? what did she want? money?
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>>84247436
It was a crazy old woman at a bus stop. She just started beating me with an umbrella for no reason and kicked me in the leg pretty hard. I distanced myself from her and she left me alone. After I got on the bus, I saw her from a window assaulting other people, so it's not like I was the problem.
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>>84247436
>>84247467
And I'm a man ofc.
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>>84247056
> seething paragraphs
lol
Discomfort is inevitable, suffering is a choice.
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>>84246720
lol cope, you're just not getting resources then foid hag
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>>84247398
>know the world is dangerous and even more so for women who are physically weaker.
Is it though?

>Assault victimization rates show distinct gender patterns: men face higher rates of overall violent crime and aggravated assault, often perpetrated by strangers, while women face significantly higher rates of sexual assault and intimate partner violence (IPV). Sexual assault victims are overwhelmingly female (approx. 90%), and women are far more likely to be victimized at home

>>84247436
>are you a man or a woman? i don't understand. why did the woman assault you? what did she want? money?
Nta but that should be obvious. Chances are it was for money. You can't just go "oh, a woman did a crime? She must have had a good reason" and then in the same breath tell people to believe women without any evidence.
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>>84247117
>women categorically don't like sex as much as men do, or want it as much.

This isn't true. They don't want sex with unattractive men they don't really want. They are more than happy to have lots of hot sex with Chad while they're young
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>>84247056
This is why Chad just pumps and dumps. Imagine having less sex being around a foid than just using her for sex once
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>>84246521
I hate that sex is such a critical component to relationships.
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>>84247643
I bet you'd love to get constant attention and be spoiled rotten without having to suffer through the indignity of exposing your vagina for insertion for a few minutes once a month.
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coming to this board every day to get pissed off at the stupid shit foids post about is not worth it. merely thinking about this garbage takes all the enjoyment away from my day
goodbye r9k (i'll be back tomorrow).
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>>84247676
I think it'd be nice if both people in a couple could spoil eachother rotten and be terribly romantic and sweet together without needing to rail eachother to keep things alive. Also I'm a gay guy sorry!
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>>84247720
You're a bottom, right?
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>>84247733
No my boyfriend is, and he has a much higher libido than I that makes it difficult to keep up with. Yeah he'll probably leave me someday because of it, but things are nice while they last.
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Men are fucking shit, women tell them they can have sex once a week because life is hard and there goes the guy calling it a dead bedroom already and chimping out.
It's fucking depressing when women believe in men and their simplistic ideas of romance and love and when they become partners at last, suddenly all of men complaints happen to be about sex.
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>>84247473
no offense, but who won the fight?
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>>84246521
again this , my wife is fucking me all the time, my ex too, and other ex too.
girls love sex more than men.
the problem is you are ugly or youre a girl pretending to love someone
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>>84247542
you're just stupid. this isn't true. ask any endocrinologist, gynecologist, psychologist, etc and they will tell you that what i said is true.
of course women prefer to sleep with more attractive men. but libido isn't something that you can just conjure up. there is a limited amount of it no matter how attractive your partner is and women have a LOT less.
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>>84247775
i'm sorry anon. i'm not a gay man but i have gay men friends and i know that dating is tough. i hope it goes ok for you.
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>>84246521
I'm not "accomodating" my libido because of a partner who can't reciprocate the same amount of desire as me because sexuality is an essential part of me, not a side thing. Love without desire is useless
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>this whole post



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