>get a job and move out>realize that toy you wanted as a kid that was "too expensive" actually wasn't >and you realize how much your parents spent on their hobbies was outrageous>that second drink you wanted at a restaurant wasn't "too much">and that your dad's beers cost more than the entire rest of the meal combined>that eating out is normal for most people, not a twice a year thing>but also that your parents would eat out and get takeout multiple times a week without you>realizing that paying $60 a month for faster internet wasn't actually a big deal, especially when they were paying $150 a month for newspaper delivery >actually, you can wait until a reasonable time in the morning to mow the lawn on the weekend, you don't have to be up at 6am>actually if you aren't drinking alcohol, you can afford many things that improve your life and the lives of everyone in the house>That game you spent 60hrs on your dad called a waste of money cost less than his average night at the bar
>>84279623kid life is slavery. kid power
>>84279623>when you realize your parents are basically retarded and had no idea what theyre doing
>>84279649"it's not like you came with an instruction manual"I was born in 1990, there were 100's of books on parenting available, i was the fourth child. It's not an acceptable excuse.
>>84279629children are unironically an opressed class, they are not treated as full human beings
My parents made good money their whole lives but were so financially retarded that they saved nothing and are now poor. And then they ask me to loan them money even though I'm a fucking wagie
Yeah the kids raised by single mothers are sitting at home eating doritos and cereal while mommy is out wining and dining off of Tinder simps, eating steak, shrump, lobster and scallops.You were also wearing hand me down clothes and your parent was making every excuse under the sun not to buy you clothes, then turn around and spend 1/3 of their paycheck on booze and weed.My mother right now spends 150$ on the TV cable and then complains about the bill and I tell her to use streaming and she never does. This has happened like 100 times, but she stopped bringing it up to me.
>>84279677>child leaves sock on floor>parent beats them into a coma"good, they need to LEARN SOME RESPECT!"there is not a single crime an adult could commit that would legalize that brutality
>>84279677"Think of the children" was not and will never be about the children. It's always been about how the adults around feel.
This reminds me of how mattress salesmen always say that when parents go mattress shopping they always blow the majority of their budget on the best mattress they can get for themselves and then the cheapest smallest pieces of shit available for the kids
>>84279804My parents were furious when i bought myself a mattress as a teenager, they made me buy the old one to throw it away, it was a 1980's piece of foam they got for free.
>>84279649>when you realize your parents are basically retarded and had no idea what theyre doingi realized it way too fucking late which of course means i am also hopelessly retarded
>>84279804I mean yea is a kid really gonna give a shit if he's sleeping on a temperpedic mattress your parents are old and worn to shit of course they want a nice bedmaybe im low maintenance but im glad i had a bed at all
>>84279902Probably not when they're really young but I think once they get a bit older and their bodies grow in more you should probably at least stop buying the cheapest piece of shit available, yeah
My mum actually admitted the other day that she maybe didn't raise me right. Should've encouraged me to get into sports more and make friends.
>>84279623My dad's TV kept me up all night and my education suffered for it.
>>84279629kek, bodied OP with that one
>>84280054For me it was my parents arguing all night every night for months on end.
>>84279649oh give it more time, well trodden path that.
Actual quality post, which is refreshing to see amongst the garbage heap that is modern r9k. My parents were the type who also did stuff just like this out of a mentality that allowing me to have nice things or be happy would "spoil" me so they treated me like shit on purpose. I dropped out of society, lost my job, and got addicted to meth.
>>84279717The most retarded thing my mom did when it came to food was feed me basedmilk because she thought milk was unclean and had bacteria in it or some shit because she was too retarded to look up what pasteurization is. Im not even one of those people who is resentful their parents didnt feed them quality sourced raw colostrum or whatever but I unironically get mad thinking about how stupid my mom was for that.
>>84279623My friends dad was an alcoholic and bought them basically nothing, they got like a mini Chinese knock off finger skateboard back when those were in fashion and it was like their 1 xmas present. Their house had no wallpaper in many sections there was exposed wires, a few rooms didnt have doors. He worked as a red seal tradesman and was never home. where was the money going? booze? could have been a second family.
>>84279623OK we get it your dad was an alcoholic cheap asshole. You have to get past this resentment and build anew. In your honor OP, I am giving up alcohol for the next 72 hours.
>>84279649I was like 8 years old when i realized this. I had enough self reflection to think that I just dont understand them well enough yet because im too young, then i got older and realized i was right the whole time. I'm like 1-2 standard deviations above them and genuinely suspected I was adopted at one point.
>>84279623>realizing that 90% of the so-called "real/adult world" is just working ceaselessly and paying bills>understanding why Uncle Bad-Touch was generally never talked about>seeing the real reasons why certain relatives were hyper-religious>realizing that, contrary to what your parents told you, not everyone who has a car and a home was only able to do so because they were in the militaryI'm starting to think Boomers and the Gen-Xers they never truly loved only reproduced because they felt the 'had to,' with little or no foresight as to what that actually entailed.
>>84280607I'm so old (Gen X) that my grandparents were GG "greatest generation". Let me tell you, that generation HATED their spouses. They literally married because they had to. Women couldn't have jobs or own property until like 1955, so they just married whoever to avoid becoming a nun in the convent or a bag lady.I never saw anyone hate anyone as much as my maternal grandmother hated her husband. That poor motherfucker couldn't fart without catching criticism. He would just leave the house for hours with no real purpose. He was so defeated, I just felt bad for him my whole life.That was not unique. Every couple that age was like that. They couldn't stand each other. It's weird there's so many people born to that type of marriage. In that era you just did "what you had to do" you didn't get to choose. Life was planned out for you and you liked it or else.That made me think of a Paul F. Thompkins bit that explains it pretty well.https://youtu.be/Bo3JnaZwLNg?si=lgZCeL7bgJTCYP8h&t=38
>>84280312yea this right here. and i had no idea my dad could sound like a fucking lion when he yelled at her because he's always more reserved. weirdest feeling ever hearing the entire house vibrate when he yelled from the floor beneath me. so weird and uncanny
>>84279623My entire life is being tailored so I can provide a good environment to raise my future children. All I want is to be a good parent
I actually think giving your kids everything they want spoils them.It creates a sense of entitlement which is very damaging as an adult
>>84279623If all you wish you had as a kid is faster internet, new games and an extra soda, all things considered I think your parents did a good job at raising you. If you spoil a kid too much they'll expect things to come to them and never work for it, if you give them too little they learn to make do with nothing and never see the need to work. If you're living out of your parents home and can make enough money to buy the games and other luxuries you wished you had as a kid you're doing well at life for your age dude.
>>84281945I'm ngl I think this is cope. My brother was a spoiled brat growing up and he's extremely hard working, my parents just raised him better than me
>gold digger mom>dad older than all my friends' grandparents>she inevitably divorce rapes him and takes almost everything>sells the nice house to fund her PhD>feminists at the university hear about this great victory over the patriarchy and immediately promote her to a department head>she has no idea what she's doing or even a day of experience and basically just takes credit for projects run by indian dudes>stops cooking and caring for her kids >still comes home every day furious about """the tough life of a single mom"""">meanwhile I'm hungry every minute of every day, wearing dirty torn clothes, not sleeping, fungal infection on my scalp, cutting myself, getting kicked out of school>she gaslights me into thinking this is all because I'm a bad son and that the worse my life gets the more of a burden I am>by the time I'm 18 I have the physical and intellectual maturity of a 13 year old, missed my chance to become a manFeminism permanently fucked up my life before I was even old enough to even know what was going on. She will burn in hell.
>>84282027Yes I agree, I was trying too hard for the "both extremes are bad angle" when there are a lot of spoilt kids from rich families who do very well in life. I think that has more to do with them coming from a place of advantage that comes with high expectations though. I think what I've written does apply to most average families. NEETs are usually created by either one or the other.
>>84279623"And anyway one day I looked through the window from the door leading to the portableclassrooms, and I saw that the principal of the school was speaking to someone overthere. And I thought, 'oh well I can't goof around when she's there', so I said out loud tothe people, um, to the other students that were at the line there with me, I said 'oh theprincipal is there, well, I don't care', and by that time I just thought I was going to just,flap around, just motion as if there were some emergency, anyway, just fooling around.And the vice principal happened to be standing behind me, hearing me say 'oh theprincipal's there, I don't care', and she said the statement 'you should care', as if itwere...something very insightful, and wise. And, even though she misunderstood thecontext of what I was saying, ignoring that, just, looking at that statement 'you SHOULDcare', and that really...is a representation of, what childhood is. It's children saying, 'Idon't care, I don't want your values, I don't want to live', and adults constantly saying'you should care about values, you should choose culture, you should choose life', andthat's what parenting and childhood and education and all of that is. It's just adultsbullying children into accepting their values. So how can you possibly criticize, peoplefor mocking the homosexuals and bullying them in some sense, when you're the oneswho're incessantly bullying children? And, in that vein, heh, man, and the children, theygrow up to do the same exact thing. And they just senselessly propagate these culturalmemes...forever. It just keeps going on, they keep bullying each other, and there's nopoint to any of it."
>>84282047Can't blame this guy for hating women
>>84282047>missed my chance to become a manIts not too late. I was a child of neglect and it took me until my late 20's to learn how to be a man. I am 38 now and have a wife and 2 wonderful kids.
just so i'm clear, is OP complaining that his dad drank beer instead of buying him a new graphics card and shit?
"I'm talking about those people who intend on having children andintend on giving them a quote 'better life' than they had.""These people experienced what they consider to be trauma when they were children,saying 'oh my family was too poor to provide for us' or 'oh my family somehow abusedus', and because of that they think that they can do their children a favor by changingtheir behavior when having their children. But, you're not doing your children any favors,you're not, it's like they think that you're...that somehow that process of parenting isprogressing towards some enlightenment, but it's not doing that at all, the only reasonwhy you...would want to do that with your children is because, not because you're beingselfless, you're being selfish. You're trying to remedy your own psychological baggage. Imean, the children have nothing to do with it, they don't exist, they don't, they aren'tsubjected to whatever you were subjected to. It's... uh, I don't even know.""You don't do your children a favor by raising them in any way, all that you're doing isimposing values onto them and they're going to have to... do the same thing to theirchildren, to fix their baggage and all of that nonsense. You think that you're progressingtoward something, and I'm not saying that you're not progressing, that you're somehowdeviating from some progression or...that you're going in circles. I'm not saying that atall, you're not going in circles, you're not progressing, you're...not doing anything.There's no movement at all, you're stuck in the zeroth dimension and I'm stuck in thezeroth dimension with no movement at all because... that's the structure of life. Andthat's what value demands, you're not accomplishing anything by doing any of this,you're just trying to fulfill the values that you've been instilled with. And if you don't havechildren, you don't need to fulfill any of those values.
>>84282081This is the type of poster we need more of here
>>84279649>had no idea what theyre doing>did the bare minimum and bitterly sacrificed the minimumthese are not the same thing>>84279623for me, it's being told i cost the same as my sister when>she went out with her friends and i didn't>she bought stuff ad i didn't>she had her college paid for and i didn'toh but they gave me some money for food and rent so i guess doing that in a more expenive city and paying her tuition cost the same as me
>>84282121My poor sweet baby adam </3
>>84282081>>84282177can you both fuck off forever? thanks in advance.
