>>84283029
>women are insufferable and pussy has never been more abundant (whether physically or in media)
i refuse to overpay for a used set of 3 holes

It could be worse. I had my first kiss at 5

A slew of brain problems originating from
>childhood brain damage (I hit the back of the head against a wall)
>a father that has an absolutely abysmal personality
>a mother that used to be reasonable until dad's awful personality passed on to her
>bad experiences with women during my teenage years

>>84283069
i was considered cute as a teen, and my first interactions with women where them approaching me first. Then I grew up with zero skills to apprach and a ego so fragile I get dizzy whenever a girl rejects me. Its unreal.

>>84283148
I can relate to that.
People think, even say my looks are fine. Their body language says the same. I also don't know how to approach and I take rejection as it is, it only stings if it's someone I have a strong crush for.
My personality is the problem. I can solve that, I used to be much worse, but I'm starting to think it's way too late for getting a very specific person I always wanted and I used to be in strong denial about. It bothers me to no end and hurts because they used to be in love with me. The keyword being "used to".

>be me
>bullied when 5 and 6 years old
>bullied when 11-13 years old
>addicted to internet and games since I was 8
>few colleagues at high school
>no friends at university
Just kill me already

>>84283029
I really don't go places or near girls at all. Rural town of like 300 people is the closest town to me at 12 miles. If you don't count family and if I remember right in the past 13 or so years I have spoken to 2 girls IRL, a cashier and my grandmother's friend lol. I haven't talked to a girl around my age IRL in so long they might as well be a myth.

>adhdtism
>neet
>white
>under 6ft
>lost over 100lbs, body ruined with loose skin and stretch marks
>no self-esteem whatsoever

>I'm still too insecure
>I honestly don't want to spend all that money that means just TRYING to get a girl (dates, gifts, trips)
>I don't feel attractive enough
>I don't feel emotionally available enough
>the girls that are interested in me I'm not interested in

I want to love and be loved. I always wanted a relationship of equals but at 27, I feel like women start to expect some sort of daddy/caretaker figure and that honestly sucks. I don't want to 'explain you' shit, I want to debate and exchange ideas. I know I'm looking for a unicorn anyways.

>>84283029
I don't have one because I don't want one
I "talk" to a lot of people so that's enough for me

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>>84283233
the rural/suburban area is truly horrid place to meet women if you're not a normie. I live in Slovenia and the women here are all obsessed with 'hiking' and watching sports. I kid you not the couples wear hiking gear 24/7 so if you're even a tad into fashion (nothing extreme, could be basic shit you see posted on /fa/ that gets passed as 'manly' and you'd still be seen as a weird 'theater kid' or gay. Ironically I personally know a couple of femcels, but I'd never date them tho. They're literally the neckbeard equivalent but in female form.

I got a wife.

I'm really stubborn
>am a hopeless romantic who refuses to use dating apps and is determined to meet someone naturally in the real world

>I also have basically no friends, and don't really go anywhere or do anything besides work and home
>even if I see a girl I think is attractive in public I'd never approach one

I feel like at this point i should just swallow my pride and start using dating apps

>>84283652
>>am a hopeless romantic who refuses to use dating apps and is determined to meet someone naturally in the real world
>I also have basically no friends, and don't really go anywhere or do anything besides work and home
>even if I see a girl I think is attractive in public I'd never approach one

literally me.

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>>84283652
>>I also have basically no friends, and don't really go anywhere or do anything besides work and home

I used to work as a bartender in a hotel and the receptionist was always busting my balls how women are flirting with me and how good I have it. I didn't realize back then, but women would just start asking me random shit about coffee machines, attempting small talk, I finally understood this was flirting when a gay dudes did the same thing. My parents wanted me to get a big boy job so I left bartending and now I'm stuck in a fucking cubicle where I meet no one.

>>84283652
same
my shyness ruined so many opportunities
actually, there were 0 opportunities, I am an ugly freak

>>84283029
>be me
>out of college
>bumfuck rural town
>be slim, pretty boy, incellectual loudmouth
>the standard here is bearded normie, outdorsy & sporty tall man
man I am in the same situation as you. Dating apps really fucking suck here because there's such a small volume of women using them

>>84283708
>women would just start asking me random shit about coffee machines, attempting small talk
I fucking hate normies so much for gatekeeping basic info like this from autists. They make flirting seem like this esoteric game of signals and reading energy while in reality it's so straight forward.
Women flirt by gazing at you or initiating small-talk. That's it.
For women having a conversation is a big part of dating for them, which ironically is where autists get filtered. The way to a woman's heart in the first interactions is by being enjoyable to talk to

I am ugly and i can't handle a conversation with anyone.

>>84283029
>obese
>nonwhite
>other things

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>>84283890
I'm east asian and have a similiar problem. The issue isn't I'd be repulsive in a "greasy neckbeard who doesn't wash" sense, I'm relatively attractive as in I technically don't have any major flaws (I'm even rather tall for an asian dude 5'11), but then again I exist in a enviroment where guys like picrel is the only genre of man acceptable for women.

>>84283316
dude I used to be like you but i found out how brutal finding a high IQ girl to date is
they are significantly rarer than high IQ men and are sought after no matter their appearance
the men that are after them are typically very successful high tier men
they aren't stupid and are all blackpilled about the dating market to some extent. they know their worth and how discardable you are.
this basically means she knows she has way more power over you in the relationship and that means the pressure is all on you to prove yourself to her.
other than everything i mentioned dating them is awesome

>>84284225
You're 5'11 and Asian? You have some blessed genetics...
Also, dude almost looks like he punches boulders for fun, thanks for reinforcing my inspiration, anon :)

>>84284225
>but then again I exist in a enviroment where guys like picrel is the only genre of man acceptable for women.
sounds like you need to get off the Internet and into the real world.

>>84283708
>>84283984
The weird thing is you don't even have to know the signals or the game, you just have to have the courage or grit to ask girls out you like to date.
That's the only edge "normies"(why are we even calling it that? Most men are alone now) have is they just ask girls out and take the emotional hit of rejection until they get a yes. It's that whole meme of "what are you more afraid of? Being social pariah or being alone?" with the irony being the one's fearing social pariah more are already on the outside so they should be the most courageous in asking girls and the ones that have the most to lose tend to do it all the time because the idea of being alone hurts way more.

Whole damn thing is like a simulation

>>84283029
I don't talk to women and I'm not interesting

>>84283148
I was bullied as a kid and as a teenager I became extremely ugly out of nowhere.
My experience with dating women then was extremely traumatizing and humiliating to me especially as a very ugly teenager
Befriending a girl online for months and watching them do a 180 shift in tone the moment they saw my selfie and having months of friendship disappear as they ghosted me one by one. I was also getting bullied due to my appearance by my elementary school colleagues when I tried to contact them after 6 years.
This shit basically tanked my already fragile self esteem to oblivion and gave me very bad avoidant tendencies
Then the looksmaxxing retardation gave me a brain tumor and that started when I was 17 which was during the time my looks actually started to improve and women were finally for the first time getting crushes on me I blew them all away like a retarded because I assumed I was being made fun of.

>short
>fat
>ugly
>never earnestly tried in spite of my flaws
When I used to attempt to talk with people, not "flirting" as I don't know how, I'd commonly get called creepy and weird or just ugly straight out.
It hurt at the time, but I eventually had to accept that they are right. Since then, I've become even uglier amd weirder so there is no reason to even begin to harbor the delusion of a romantic partner.
At best, I could rent whores, but I think that unless I go for the cheapest bottom of the barrel crack-whores I run the risk of rejection. Anything better will have the privilege of non-gross johns.

>>84284390
>"what are you more afraid of? Being social pariah or being alone?"

Incels are vulnerable narcissists, they think they should be moving like Alain Delon otherwise its "simping" and "jestering" and doesn't count. They're always in-front of a imaginary audience.

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>>84284390
>you just have to have the courage or grit to ask girls out you like to date.
Man this really depends, at least if you're young that is. Directly asking women out can outright get you in trouble depending on the environment you're in or you can come off as desperate and socially awkward.
Normally you're suppose to be nonchalant about your intentions, but firm and direct. Meet a girl > get her number > find a way to get a date out of her. End game here usually is to get her to your or her apartment because the basic etiquette is that's an invitation to have sex

>>84284589
>Meet a girl > get her number > find a way to get a date out of her.
I think this is the ideal dating strategy currently for women you're at least acquaintances with. If she's not interested you'll just stagnate in one of the 3 steps and you won't really have to face a direct rejection which can be pretty devastating for you socially.

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>>84284572
I hear you but I can't see it be the majority, perhaps I'm missing something, but to think most guys that are so scared to ask girls out they need several clear signs to try are just high neurotic asshats feels too mean spirited.

>>84284589
I understand your framing but the irony is the only way to learn is to keep doing it. Those teenagers that just keep trying usually get success after a couple of years regardless of who and what they are, it's the ones that never try or get that one rejection and stop that just rot away.

And everything can get you in trouble, you are taking risks 24/7 never knowing it. Your mind is just trying to rationalize pain you don't want to feel and will do whatever it takes to get you to not try. So f it must it will lie to you saying you have some great chance of getting physically hurt or charged with somthing if you try when the reality is the worse is you are just rejected, but that hurts too but it doesn't feel enough to justify never trying so you need those bigger stories to keep yourself trap and alone.

thoughts on big age gaps?

>>84284684
Without better context: You're not doing yourself any favors but at the same time it's unlikely you have anything better line up. Ideal getting with someone young while your young has the best chance (key word "chance") of having a good life long relationship but that advice is worthless if you are already past your younger years and if the opportunity is their the pain would be no worse than dating and breaking up young.

>>84283029
>Fat
>Live at home
>Minimum wage job
If I were black I could get away with this by sheer BBC magic, but I am not

>>84284704
>Ideal getting with someone young while your young
Is it really? I have literally watched all the relationships that started "young" fail and wither

>>84284747
One could argue nearly everything fails and wither. Young and old. The edge of young is three things: The first is the fact you have the vim and vigor of your youth, even if it fails you are still experiencing intimacy in your prime, it's a major reason most 30yo+ virgins think sex is over rated when they have it so old, they are a good ten years or more too late to the party. Another factor is that youth has lower standards. This weird BS that guys claim of women settling, they don't, in fact the older they get the more demanding they get, they want the 666 guy because what was the point passing on average joe 5+ years ago? A lot of older men don't get this and while you can date younger as an older guy you enter complications of what kind of girl dates a guy with a large age gap. Which leads us to the third and final, the reason the odds are better is because you are growing together, ie same challenges and changes thus always relatable. When you get to say an extreme like a 10 year age gap it has weird complications of how you'll both relate to each other as you get old.

Again, This is a combination of optimal case compounded with if it's going to fail no matter what when should you try.
That's the other thing people get stuck on is this idea that if it ever fails it wasn't worth having. In most cases it was, but that's assuming the parties can handle the failure of what happen, which is usually all the issue ever is, men and women never coping with the fact they couldn't make it "work"

A bunch of stuff, none of which is a dealbreaker on its own but combined it blocks me.

Right now, the biggest issue is that I'm old (late 30s) and living with my parents while going back to school, after covid fucked my old career. Even if a girl was OK with that (and I know quite a few would be) I'm not, because my parents don't respect privacy enough for me to feel comfortable bringing a girl home, and a lot of the women who seem interested in me are younger and don't have their own places either.

Past that, I'm painfully average in most respects. Average height, average weight, average social skills, slightly above average looks but not enough to coast on, etc. Plenty of average guys get GFs but I'm let down by a few things. I've got a big dick and a high IQ but those only help with keeping women (sometimes,) not getting them in the first place.

One is that, while I can hold a conversation well and even flirt OK, when it actually comes down to making a move, or responding to a woman's move, I either freeze up or drop my fucking spaghetti.

The other, and probably the most critical thing, is that I just don't find the vast majority of women appealing. I have a type and only like 0.1% of women fit it. There are plenty more that I'd be willing to fuck/date and would enjoy doing it, but I just don't get motivated to try and get them, and I honestly don't even really think about the prospect when I see them (which is a big part of why I get blindsided when they show interest in me). I can actually summon up some halfway decent game when I do encounter a girl that really tickles my pickle but they're super rare and it's usually not enough to actually get them, but at least I can feel better about myself afterwards.

>>84283029
I'm a loner sperg that doesn't want to have a gf, wife or kids.

>>84284684
I've been giving it a lot of thought lately myself. Being back in school puts me in contact with a lot of much younger women so it's on my mind, and there's one in my classes who IS my rare type, and who shows some signs of attraction - nothing huge but she does seem to kinda go out of her way to hang around me and make small talk etc. She's REALLY young though, like only been legal for a couple of months young, and I really idk about that, especially since no way in hell am I gonna risk encountering her parents when I'm twice her age and my mom really disapproves of age gaps and would kill me if she found out too, plus I've still got more than a year left in school here and I don't really want to live through it with the shame of being the old guy who came onto an 18 year old girl hanging over my head.

I do think though that I'll probably end up going for somebody with a decent-size age gap, just not such a big one, I'm 40 soon and I'll probably aim for 28-30 since 40 year old single women are a fucking disaster while 30ish ones have a much better prospect of being decent and normal women who just got out of an LTR or whatever.

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>>84283029
I stopped looking. Was seeing a girl for a while but she magically "became diagnosed autistic" and it became her entire personality and excuse to behave shitty.
Whatever post covid psych warfare was used, it worked.
Women can't hold conversation, act shitty and entitled, and don't ever stop looking for attention on social media or following the gayest dumbest trends that are clearly forced. They don't share interests with guys anymore or have hobbies. They are a limitless black hole of wants that offer fuck all in return and constantly cause problems because they mistake peace for boredom and can't take accountability for anything.

>>84284704
marrying young advice mostly applies towards women. Women lose value gradually as they age so securing a high value husband is at its easiest the moment you hit 18.
>>84284676
Being low inhib is the key for success in dating. I can't tell if that's because of survivor bias or because women are inherently attracted to low inhib men desu.
>>84284747
Dating is a number's game but it REALLY takes a toll on you eventually, ESPECIALLY for women.
You ideally want to avoid to date people with high number of ex's and that number is correlated with age

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>>84284915

I'm 34, 5'11 and with a head full of hair. What adivce do you have for me, what can be done I won't regret in 5 years.

>>84284915
ironically age gap couples are only increasing in size these past 3 years even though people have been getting increasingly neurotic over them

My shit is so not fucked up that it's fucked up. I'm fit, intelligent, interesting, disciplined, charismatic, and talented, but I am autistically determined to make it in a career path that has an insanely low success rate and most people would or could never attempt, and the odds are fairly stacked against me. I have literally zero doubt in my mind that it's only a matter of time before I strike gold, and have had enough rare minor success to indicate that I'm not totally delusional - plus I still have the support of my parents, especially after some of this success, but when I tell women it's like kryptonite and they just hear "delusional NEET bum" especially now that I'm above 30. In your 20s you can get away with it and a lot of younger women still don't care, some even find it admirable and will even romanticize it, but I want to date a woman my age. They all think I'm a liability and honestly treat me really poorly once they find out, even though I am genuinely a determined, hard working dude with real skills and real goals, just not in the capacity they're used to. I truly believe I'm only a year or two away from a major, major breakthrough, potentially less if some things fall into place. When I show people my work they almost always end up believing me, so I know I have what it takes, I just haven't found the in yet. I get any woman above 25 who dates me would be taking a gamble, tho. It's honestly one of the worst parts of the process, but what people don't understand is that I do this because there is literally no other option, and never has been. It simply is what I am going to do and there's no arguing it. If you haven't been determined like that you can't understand it. I'd really like to find a woman who is passionate about something on the same level, but I haven't been able to yet. I'm assuming it'll happen once I find success, probably not before.

>>84284977
>I'm 34, 5'11 and with a head full of hair.
Fuck man, mine was great all the way up to 38 and then suddenly started thinning pretty bad around the temples last year. Still looks decent from the front but if there's bright light from above, or you see the top of my head, it's staring to look kinda bad.

Honestly, not sure what to say. One thing is just getting out there, I know that's cliche but I regret not doing it more. I usually meet at least one girl who seems interested when I go out but fail to close the deal and I don't go out often enough to win the law of averages there, but I feel like I probably would if I found the right places and went weekly or whatever. Another big one is don't be fat, I lost so much of my life to that, and if you're not fat try to plan ahead and prevent it, the same habits can suddenly make you balloon up as you get older.

Outside of dating/sex, just try to make sure you're on a career path that you're happy with. Every year that goes by will make it harder to change and dig yourself out of a rut. If you're considering going back to school do it ASAP, selling yourself as a new grad gets a lot harder when that "3" turns into a "4."

>>84284987
Probably no coincidence, the age gap hysteria is mostly coming from Millennial women who are losing their shit that guys their age are done with their bullshit and are abandoning them and going for zoomers instead.

>>84284976
>marrying young advice mostly applies towards women
Doesn't have to be marriage and men pay price as well in terms of options. The pardox of it is a good grl won't look at money or status so why date old, meanwhile gold digger and thots will flock to those old men or comparable but is that really what those guys want? It's hardly the victory it seems.

>Being low inhib is the key for success in dating
It's simpler than that and it's just the means to take action which a lot of types can do easily. You can be high inhibition and succeed just as much, in fact that's what courage is, a high inhibition still taking the chances and risks. Only a coward would want to assume they have to be stupid and reckless to have any chance with a girl.

>>84283029
It's pretty simple for me
>not very attractive
>not enough confidence to speak to women
>my only hobbies are solitary activities
>the people at my job aren't very social

>>84284997
Damn what is it you want to do? I respect the dedication since I'm a bit similar

>>84284676
HOLY COPE
Chad just exists and hot young pussy rapes him basically
If you have to try/approach at any point of your life, it's over, you are genetic trash.

>>84284855
>A lot of older men don't get this and while you can date younger as an older guy you enter complications of what kind of girl dates a guy with a large age gap.

Listen, your post is cool and everything but women do not want men their own age, i have even had this discussion in real life with actual women, most will downright tell you they want an older man 5-10 years. This is simply the reality, i have no idea what you are going on about to be honest.

Truth is women don't even consider men their own age as equals, this is the truth and has always been the truth.

>>84285221
Until they're in their 30s. That's when women get desperate over men their own age

>>84285235
I couldn't tell you to be honest, i don't hang out with that demographic

>>84285235
Not my experience. I'm 39 and got several 29 year olds lined up, and some 25 year olds and even a 20 year old. Meanwhile women aged 38-40 largely ignore me. I'm young looking though, and I just don't think women are into being the older looking one in the relationship.

>>84285537
Dude if you're in a situationship with 3 girls how the fuck do you end up posting here, genuinely

>>84285085
I want to be one of the greatest music producers of all time, straight up. I probably could have doubled down on some of my prior successes and found a consistent niche by now if all I cared about was stability, but money and attention don't motivate me and frankly I used to be afraid of both. All I really care about is the product and process, however I've definitely hit the point where I need some leverage to progress and scale. You can only go so far polishing your work in private. I'm still wary to maintain my integrity tho and am trying to find a route that negotiates both, I don't really think you can put things into the world that mean something to other people if you don't.
I don't like to blame external factors for my successes or failures, but I've felt for a while that the time is infertile and I just need to wait a bit while the pendulum swings. It's all cyclical and over the past year I've finally started to feel that the culture is slowly shifting again.
At the very least I intend to spend my life working towards the standards set by my heroes, surpassing my previous work and hopefully someday their work whenever I can. There isn't really anything else that brings me true pleasure or satisfaction, and it's enough for me as long as I can keep moving forward.
Wbu?

>>84285551
Not in a situationship, not even having sex, it's just those are the girls who are the warmest/least cold towards me rn, who I would probably date if that was still a thing.

>>84285537
>>84285578
Similar here. Also 39 but people regularly tell me they thought I was about 26, and not just in "trying to be nice" kind of situations. (I frequently get treated like a zoomer by people who are actually my age, and then see the shock when I tell them I was there for whatever thing they were talking about or whatever.) Late teens/early 20s women show at least some degree of interest all the time, while women in their 30s look at me like an absolute piece of garbage if they even notice my existence.

>>84285537
I'm 44 and have some 18 and 19 year olds wanting the D. It's a peculiar feel. Meanwhile a 21 year old Ukranian refugee girl basically gave me the cold shoulder, no one is safe.

>>84283029
I have had severe social anxiety recently. Like I have had attractive coworker interact with me a lot, I am usually ok. But most recent time, she kept pressing questions, like she was genuinely interested. I went from cool and smooth to freezing up, and withdrawing, basically unable to talk because of extreme anxiety. Actual irl social interactions I have been lacking in my years, and me being in so many in recent past, it has exposed some weaknesses I need to correct. Maybe all this is my doing strictly in my own head I am imagining things, I don't even know.

>>84285200
>If you have to try/approach at any point of your life, it's over, you are genetic trash

Is this a 3rd world thing? I don't get how or why anyone would give a shit.
"Oh no you fuck a girl by asking her out. Your genes are trash" people just want to find love and have a good time, they don't give a shit if they are trash or treasure so long as they get what they are after.

I'm obese. There is no other reason needed.

>>84284997
>>84285552
buddy i resonate a lot with you and have kinda been doing art and making connections and it seems meant to be that we posted on this thread so hit me up and yeah i'd love to hear your stuff and maybe make some album art for you
so yeah if you wanna add _threshold_

>>84283029
i live in a village with no young people

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>>84283029
Just bad luck. The one thing i cannot change.

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>>84283029
i dont really have any friends or a social life and dating apps dont work. i have met girls through them but no gf or sex. i always get ghosted or i ghost them. im tall and pretty good looking so im certain my latina wife is out there somewhere

>>84283029
My parents' idea of raising me was to make me feel like shit about myself at every opportunity so I have no self-confidence, no self-esteem and a general hate and mistrust for people IRL

>>84283029
>>bumfuck rural town
>>be slim, pretty boy, incellectual loudmouth
>>the standard here is bearded normie, outdorsy & sporty tall man

Okay move to the nearest city

>>84283652
>am a hopeless romantic who refuses to use dating apps and is determined to meet someone naturally in the real world
Please God don't do that. I met my ex wife on a train and it was terrible. You'll have a much better time online

>>84283029
>no friends
>no female coworkers
>no social circle where I can meet women
>don't have the looks or height to make it on dating apps
>live in southern ontario aka the worst place in the world to be a man trying to date

>>84283029
>be me
>5'9" and 3.75/10
it's that simple, if it was taller and better looking i'd have a gf

>>84283029
>girlfriend
why settle for one
I'm a freaky fuck and I'm talking to like 2 girls and 3 guys rn

i dont think im that ugly but i dont seem to be good looking enough for women give a pass to my somewhat awkward social abilities. i havent talked to a woman in a long time irl but when i did they always had this pre-creeped out stare whenever i spoke to them, i think a lot of guys here know that stare, you feel it in your bones when you get it. They dont like me. The only women ive spoken to in like 10 years were through texts on discord and stuff, apparently im a really good texter probably because ive spent so much of my life communicating through writing. Id send them pics of myself and they usually say im cute or whatever, but id get bored and ghost them. I dont really know how to talk to people irl anymore and thats what women really want not some cute retard who can be funny texting but is an emotionless absent dipshit irl.

>>84283029
I've been happily married for over a decade.

>>84283029
>Manlet
>Autist
>Bald
>Hermit
>Perma-NEET
>Unapproachable
>Not a Chad

>>84283029
In short, being in a relationship with me isn't an experience I would wish on anyone. I have nothing to offer and very few redeeming qualities.

when you look at girls on tiktok and suddenly they also look at your profile and then give you a follow and you follow back, are you expected to now DM them?

I don't bring enough to the table. I need my own apartment and car first before I bother dating. If I get a GF now, where would we fuck? My room in my parent's house?

>ugly
>dumb
>not funny
>speech impediment
That was just my teens and 20s, now I'm also old and fat

>>84283029
I also live in a rural town and don't go outside and I don't know what the standard is besides rural retardation

>>84283029
None of the women I've ever talked to have ever been able to communicate.

>>84283195
incel not knowing how to approach, imagine my surprise right now

>>84289050
post face so i can have a point of reference

>>84289098
I'm not posting my face, but I have a big nose, wide cheeks, thin lips, and narrow eyes
Also forgot to mention my hair is thinning and that's a big deal to women

I'm autistic and am a drug addict. Work I get get is not worth the payrate. At least I get disability tier NEETbux. My personallity and tolerance for socalising is really bad atm due to being very isolated for almost 7 months but even at the best of times my mask slips pretty fast. I've had 2 gf's that were long term and a few that don't really count cause I was 12 - 14 and I was too anxious to kiss them though I did finger 1 the one I had at 14yo. I also had a few 'gf's' as a kid. Honestly I've had pussy thrown at me basically my whole life but would just act and feel smug, truth is if I actually tried to pick up the ones I was attracted to I would have humiliated myself and I am very picky (chronic oneitis). The amount of women in relationships that flirted openly and blatantly with me was crazy, dudes be getting cucked waaaay more than commonly suspected.

>>84289157
>dudes be getting
shut the fuck up jamal nobody gives a fuck

>>84289146
what color are you though

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>>84283029
>autistic
>neet
>anxious recluse
>severely underweight
>annoying lisp
>scared of women because of some mild childhood abuse
I wish I were asexual so that I didn't fantasize about having a gf and have to waste time masturbating

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>>84283029
>autistic
>ugly/mean looking (not fat or deformed but not a pretty or handsome face despite having sharp features)
>too skinny
>short (178, which is about as tall as most women here)
>don't approach women because I think I'm above it
>had a chance to form relationships with two girls, one was crazy so I never even tried, the other was very much similar to me in (sexual) interests but brown and when she confessed to me I tried imagining a future with her but I just couldn't, nor with any other woman at that time, and I wanted to save the both of us more suffering in the long run so I rejected her
But those are ultimately just excuses.
I don't think I'm fit for love even though I do want it.
My standards are too high (or, wide, rather, it's things that are relatively common but for them to be all in one person is unlikely, even more so that I'd meet and have a shot with them) and I'm too selfish/autistic to do things right even if the opportunity presented itself.

>>84283065
It was 4 for me and I didn't even get diddled get on my level you fucking scrub

>>84283029
>grew up without female friends so Ive never learned how to talk to women
>socially inept in general
>have no place to meet women
>work at a place without females
>non of my fiends have any girlfirends who could introduce me to her friends
>Im shy so im also scared of approaching females

Actually I was asked out like 3 times in my life by some girls but my social retardation cock blocked me. rip

Yeah that sums it up
BUT Im trying online dating right now and I gonna meet up with someone for our second date next week. Hope that my time without a gf comes to an end.

>>84284248
>You're 5'11 and Asian? You have some blessed genetics...

I know thats why its even more frustrating. My main problem isn't just looks, its demographics. I live in a environment where women value masculinity as they get older. The older women don't want too look older than their man and the younger ones actually want someone chronologically young.

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My biggest fear is that even if I do get into a relationship, how the hell am I supposed to transition from years, almost a decade of loneliness and hyper-independent solitude to actually being in a relationship with another human being? Another human being whose needs I have to consider and someone I have to make time for.

>sometimes I'll go entire weekends without even saying a single word or talking to another person, won't receive a single text message the whole weekend
>i'm supposed to go from that to having a romantic partner who I regularly talk and do stuff with

this thread literally gets made at least once a week, if not more

>>84283029
>schizoid
>ephebophilia

>>84290242
>Actually I was asked out like 3 times in my life

I met with a friend from high school after years of no contact and she began describing how many girls were into me back then. I had no idea (and yes I'm a virgin).

I interact with a lot of early 20 somethings at work, and I've made the executive decision to ask one of them out on a date at some point in the next month, as I've never asked a girl out and I'm 27. I know it's not really appropriate because I'm doing my job, but if I'm just honest and take it perfectly fine if they say no, what the fuck do I have to lose? I really honestly won't even feel bad if she says no, it'll just be nice to have asked a girl out IRL.

>>84291351
>work
you have to make sure she's into you first, like if she gives off signs/hints that she's into you
if you fuck, HR would rain down fire upon your ass

>>84291351
*if you fuck up
my bad

>>84291553
I'm not referring to a coworker, I'm referring to essentially the clients

i have a girlfriend and im suffering for the same reason i didnt have a girlfriend before, which is that i hust hate talking to people and i have no friends and dont speak to my siblings at all and barely speak to my parents

>>84289174
I'm not a nigger, nigger.

>be me
>start developing agoraphobia at age 13
>become debilitated by it at age 15

I don't have a girlfriend because I live for myself. It's clear to women that I'm not someone that's going to change my lifestyle for them but that's the only kind of man females want.

>>84290387
Literally me, damn. Just pretend to be human or something.

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A big reason is I naturally seem "closed off" and don't really know what to do about it. In the past, women I've dated or slept with say I'm a very emotionally intelligent, understanding, and easy to talk to person, but initially I seem very intimidating and uninterested, like I'm in my own world, don't need others, and shouldn't be bothered. I do okay on apps because I am physically attractive, but live in a city where the population is too high for them to be worth the effort. I've been trying to figure out how to make more connections in person, but when I see people looking at me I'm often too nervous to look back, or I reflexively think they're thinking something negative and then feel ashamed. I have a very difficult time making eye contact outside of sex, and I think I have the male equivalent of RBF sometimes.

Last weekend I was sitting on the bus, headed to a concert, and a really cute girl sat across from me. I was listening to music and staring at the floor, and she started waving her feet back and forth, I think to get my attention. I looked up at her briefly, got nervous, and immediately looked to the side. I glanced at her a few more times but when I caught her looking back I'd always just pretend I wasn't looking, and I think I unintentionally made an annoyed face at the embarrassment I was feeling. Eventually she frowned and moved to the back of the bus. Things like this happen fairly often.

In general I just have a really hard time trusting and opening up to people. It's gotten worse with age. My childhood was very negative and I spent my 20s trusting the wrong people. When I meet new people I'm constantly parsing if it's going to be worth my time, comparing to prior experiences, trying to scan motive and intent. It disconnects me from the world and I've tried to do inner work to heal, but the pattern is that I'll give people a chance, become exhausted, bored, or disappointed, and then close up again.