>and now we will hear from the anti trans crowd
>>84297964are they british?
>>84297991Sadly yes, a nation with pure hate
>>84297964The concept of "transgender" does not easily translate and encapsulate the essence of what you are. It'd be more intuitive to just refer to yourself as a crossdresser. Also, like Shakespeare asked, what's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet. I don't understand the utility of changing the given name your parents gave you. You are still you.
>>84298052Dehumanising others ultimately dehumanises yourself
>>84298052very well written. when i transition, i won't change my name
>>84297964well trannies should killthemselves , thank you for listening to my ted-talk
Troons are vulnerable narcissistsI also now understand why they try to groom the young so much: they're impressionable and have no life experience, so they won't question them, are more likely to also 'transition' so the troon won't feel too isolated, and will be a supply of validation.
>>84298056It wouldn't logically follow to an outsider of the Anglosphere that referring to you by your given name is a dehumanizing insult. In my culture, we have vestiges of fatalistic, superstitious beliefs about names. My grandparents took it very seriously, for instance, the date and time of my birth as well as astrological phenomena to inspire my given name. Everybody used to think that auspicious names would influence the course of a human life well. In English, the term for this is translated to nominative determinism.My first encounter with the English attitude on it was with Shakespeare's 'rose by any other name,' as I mentioned. The English have a very libertarian view of the world, and seem to disregard the idea of nominative determinism playfully. I expected English speakers to be likewise. Nothing could have prepared me for the near religious seriousness that this subset of English speakers regard their given names. >>84298136What does it mean for you specifically 'to transition?'>>84298148Nobody should kill themselves. Judas Iscariot didn't believe he would be forgiven by the Savior for his misdeeds, and he killed himself in despair. That's why Dante described him in the darkest pit of hell, with the Devil gnawing on his bones.
>>84298052If you're a dude and you want to transition but your name is fuckin Gerbert you're not really gonna good about it.They change their names to feel more like their new selves.Transgenderism has been a thing for a very long time. You should go read about it.
>>84297964i wouldn't say people shouldn't be trans.do whatever the fuck you want.just stop spamming r9k with troon shit when there's a board literally designed for that shit.and stop coming here trying to groom robots into transing
>>84298179The fact that your culture has mass hallucinations about names doesn't mean that I can't change my name
>>84298193>If you're a dude and you want to transition but your name is fuckin Gerbert you're not really gonna good about it.My English isn't good enough to understand what this means. >Transgenderism has been a thing for a very long time. You should go read about it.My point is that, while I know that it is, it's very contrived and non-intuitive. >They change their names to feel more like their new selves.You have a new self?>>84298229I didn't speak of 'a mass hallucination about names,' but rather a waning belief in nominative determinism. Why would the fact of this practice's existence prevent you from legally changing your name? My aforementioned lack of understanding is the utility of it.
>>84298266I called it a mass hallucination because it is. None of that astrology crap is real.
>>84298320A mass hallucination would be like a mass hysteria/panic. For example, that a group of roving monsters are running around stealing people's souls and stuffing them into jars. If an entire town really believed that and refused to come outside, then that would be a mass hallucination. You're mistaking one phrase for another and ending up saying something you don't mean. Then again your point to begin with is irrelevant minutiae.
>>84298381Your family believes in stuff that's not realIt's made upUnderstand now?
>>84298388I would add that it's not just my family, it's the entire culture in a broad sense and throughout time. This is widely regarded as superstition. Nowadays people understand your given name is simply your name. Ascribing magical significance to the proper noun you're known by as if it influences your life and being; rewrites the past and preordains the future, is nonsensical. The only misunderstanding here was on your part with the phrase "mass hallucination." It's interesting that it seems I've become a teacher.
>>84298692What?Does your family believe your first name is significant yes or no
>>84298746Is this too complicated for you to understand?As I have already said, my grandparents had a strong influence over choosing my given name for the reasons aforementioned ITT, and I consider them superstitious. So for them, yes. My parents however didn't care that much and I think they would be fine regardless of the name they gave me. So for them, no. Many families in my culture are like this.In a similar vein, there's a traditional birthday game where we lay out objects that correspond to a career before a baby, and the first object the baby grabs is supposedly the career that he will have in life. I grabbed a flute, but the prediction was meaningless because I studied to become an accountant. I've never enjoyed any talent for music. Maybe in the past, they really believed this stuff and didn't treat it like a game. That's pretty nonsensical in the same way that believing your name has special significance outside of referring to you.
>>84298963>yes or no>starts reminiscing Okay you're retarded never mind I'm sorry I tried talking to you you're clearly too far gone
>>84299011>yes or noBetween two untrue options, my response was neither yes nor no...>starts reminiscing ...and contained some exposition as necessary. >Okay you're retarded never mind I'm sorry I tried talking to you I don't know what this means, beyond that I'm being insulted and then apologized to in the same breath. I knew that there was a class divide in Anglosphere education, and I've encountered it a few times, but it's always remarkable how little they seem to read. Maybe I'm being presumptuous assuming that this is representative of that subset of the English speaking world.
Britain is the cradle of revolution, of innovation. They'll take the first step in genociding trannies and the world will once again thank them for carrying humanity forward.Imagine no more >>>/lgbt/ spam because there is no lgbt bs altogether anymore, that would be the dream
>>84299102You're like a dementia patient no one knows what you want but at least you can keep talking about your life experiences
>>84299143This is completely incomprehensible and out of context now. >>84299104Spam does seem to be quite annoying.
>>84299229You don't think people with dementia have a tendency to start rambling?
