Does this transman mog you?
>>84299865Is she a womanlet or just the average female height?
>>84299865least masculine black foid
>>84299865>Being on test gives you good resultsYeah, no shit? Studies have shown that being on gear causes you to build muscle without even working out. A guy on roids or testosterone will build muscle faster by sitting around than a natty guy will build muscle by working out 5 days a week.
Its actually crazy, the power of artificial hormones. We now have the ability to force people bodies to show the opposite dimorphic traits with which they were born, effectively pseduoreversing their sex
>>84299892Did you know men have testosterone in them naturally?
fuck offfuck you you fucking faggoti will fucking kill youhttps://youtu.be/XBxzR0QKJPY?si=Wn6PBORS5Tge6pd0
>>84299914Okay... And? People have adrenaline in them naturally too, injecting more of it still has dramatic effects compared to the natural production. Injecting huge amounts of testosterone will, naturally, give the recipient faster, more dramatic results than just having a natural amount. What a pointless post.
>>84299930So when you don't have testosterone in you naturally and you inject an amount that would be equivalent to the normal amount of testosterone in a man, then it won't actually give you any unfair advantages
>>84299959Do you think these women are getting the "normal amount" of testosterone? Really? People on gear also go on estrogen inhibitors, which the normal man doesn't.
>>84299964Yeah if they're on it legally they have to do bloodtests regularly so they would see if the levels are abnormally high
>>84299959>equivalent to the normal amount of testosterone in a manKek, that troon is definitely injecting enough to raise their test levels above 800 at minimum. Meanwhile if an actual man goes to a clinic and gets tested at 300 ng/dl they're told this is "normal" and doctors refuse to prescribe test supplementation.
>>84299865A black woman has more T natty then you and I combined.
>>84299983This absolutely is not true, at all. Have you ever known somebody on hormones? They don't just give you a "normal" amount, they put you on the highest possible amount within "natural bounds" which is still significantly higher than the average man while also putting you on estrogen inhibitors, which further exacerbates the effects.I have known people on medically supervised gear/test and they absolutely do not just inject a "normal" amount.
>>84299865>Does this transman mog you?Show me his foid penis, I know when they go on testosterone, their clitoris grows into a little penis. Vid related.
>>84299865>On T Duh fucking retard give me free T too
>>84299865Being a black ftm is easy since all groids are high T and have masculine features to begin withThe real struggle is being a black mtf
>>84299984They don't want to gamble with it raising your levels artificially will cause your testicles to stop working and they don't want that 300ng/dl is still considered normal >>84299998They do put you on a normal amount and if you run out faster because you've been injecting more they might refuse to prescribe you more until they think you should've run out
>>84300022They absolutely do not put you on a "normal" amount, at all. They put you on the highest "reasonable" amount, which is still significantly higher than the majority of men can achieve naturally. Plus, again, estrogen inhibitors.Put me on test and estrogen inhibitors and I will also be able to become buff in like 2-3 months.
>>84300036They don't put ftms on estrogen inhibitors
>>84300055You have to be on estrogen inhibitors while on test or your body responds by overproducing estrogen. It really is absurd to compare somebody on multiple forms of gear to a normal guy who, thanks to factors outside of his control, produces half as much test as his grandfather.
>>84299999This is NOT a smoothcrotch!
>>84300070That's not true the opposite happens ovaries stop producing estrogen when there's more testosterone in your body. It's rare for them to consider anti estrogens. Mtfs get put on anti androgens more often though
>>84300112Oh, so what you are telling me is that FtMs don't need estrogen inhibitors because their bodies naturally stop producing estrogen, making it redundant? Fascinating admission. So, we have a woman who is producing literally zero estrogen (which not even the manliest men can do!) while also being on insanely high test supplements similar to body builders? Huh, I wonder what that would result in! You fucking peanut.
>>84300112>>84300121Just a hypothetical: let's say I took a black incel, an Urkel, who is 5'3. Then I got rid of his body's ability to produce estrogen. Then I put him on testosterone supplements that put his test levels in the top 5% of men. What do you think would happen? I will only accept one answer.
>>84300121They still produce a smaller amount of estrogen it's just low enough to not bother anyone
>>84300155So they produce basically no estrogen while having up to 2x the test levels of a normal man? Huh. Just like men on gear. Weird. Crazy, mayhaps. I wonder what getting rid of your estrogen production and replacing it with testosterone does. I'm wondering which group is notorious for doing this to become extremely muscular extremely fast.
>>84300155>it's just low enough to not bother anyoneThats not how aromatization of test works, the only thing that saves them from getting gyno and losing their balls like all the roiders is that they cut off their tiddie tissue and have no balls that they could lose
>>84300168>>84300146I mean in all people a small amount of testosterone gets converted to estrogen through aromatization so even if you don't produce any estrogen there would still be some of it in your body. If the testosterone levels are too high more of it would become estrogen too. If they notice this in trans men they lower the testosterone dose instead of trying to prescribe estrogen inhibitors. I'd assume the guy within the top 5% would also face some problems because of aromatization
>>84300072Well, some have a smaller one, it depends.
>>84300179Ovaries producing estrogen isn't aromatization but some of amount of the injected testosterone still gets aromatized so they have estrogen in them from both the ovaries and aromatization. Despite that most of the time the overall estrogen levels stay low enough to not warrant estrogen inhibitors
>>84299914Foids too lol.
>>84300252>Despite that most of the time the overall estrogen levels stay low enough to not warrant estrogen inhibitorsthats what every amateur grymbro says until they start wondering why suddenly it feels so good when their wife starts sucking on their nipples
>>84300262Yeah I realized I could've mentioned that too after I already made the post
>>84300285If there are persistent problems with high estrogen they do put them on anti estrogens but it's a last resort and most trans men aren't on them
>>84300310You seem to know a lot about this tranny stuff, are some kind of tranny freak yourself or something?
>>84300334No I just know a lot about this tranny stuff
>>84300362Why do you know a lot about it?This isn't the sort of thing a normal person looks into.
>>84300380Because they are definitely a fetishist.
>>84300380Because I was curious so I looked into it>>84300398No and I have no idea what I said that could've given you that impression
>>84299865You can still see the feminine waist.
>>84299883>Is she a womanlet or just the average female height?I think she's short. Idk if she's kneeling in the second pic or the mattress is tall but she barely clears the bed.
>>84300729>You can still see the feminine waist.Yeah it's giving me an erection
>>84301120For reference, the door handle is usually 3 feet or 91 cm tall
>>84299865it might just be confirmation bias but how are they all so jacked
>>84299865no tranny can mog a white man. but maybe she can bench more than I can or something.
>>84299891Her face has a feminine structure. Flat brow ridge. Delicate eyebrows. Feminine jaw line. The hair growth on the face helps cover up the feminine features.
>>84301145>no tranny can mog a white manShe looks more manly than most white dudes and definitely benches way more than your fat ass
>>84301141Roid regimen that would make the most juiced up roidtranny blushMost of them dont exercise enough so theyre just fat and hairy like the one you posted
>>84301141>Facial hair to cover your feminine faceBut you can always tell with the eyes. And there's no beard to hide the eyes unfortunately.
>>84301156Her face looks just like that of a man.
>>84301175even if that were true - she's still a tranny
>>84301175>more manly than most white dudesDoes she have a functional penis and testicles? No? Oh, okay.>>84301217You aren't a man so your perception is warped. She may seem more masculine compared to you. But to guys she still seems feminine. Pic related is a real man. Notice the prominent eyebrow ridges, deep-set eyes, the strong eyebrows, the adam's apple, the larger mandible not hidden by facial hair.
>>84299865Well, anyone of us could always start using T. The reason we don't do it is because we want to live past 30 (the idiots who hop on that shit drop like flies). Troons are on it but what does that troon's stamina and heart health look like?
>>84301255Pic related to see differences in the skull between males and females. A lot of these trans men start taking hormones after puberty when the skull has sexual differentiation. If you're a man with a masculine reference point, you can pick out these feminine traits, especially since sexual attraction is about subconsciously picking up on these clues. That's why for a lot of trans men the linchpin holding together whether they pass or not relies on using facial hair to cover up their feminine features. A man could shave and it would be clear as day they're a man. Cover anyone's face with fur or makeup and you'll have a harder time guessing because all you can see is just hair.I'm a man. I have balls that produce cum. I can't even grow facial hair. But I keep myself clean shaven and anyone can tell I'm a man from my distinctly masculine facial structure.
>>84301304*when the skull has already gone through sexual differentiation>>84301268>The reason we don't do it is because we want to live past 30 (the idiots who hop on that shit drop like flies).True. Taking exogenous androgens ages a person. That's why it's about being in the sweet spot naturally where your hormonal levels aren't so low that you're dysfunctional and unhealthy, and not that high so you just age like crap.
>>84299865i mog them simply by being a real man with an actual penis
This gremlin doesnt mog me in the same way that amon goethe does mog me
>>84299865>Takes test>Weighs 55kg at 5'4I'm supposed to respect this because she can lose weight? I don't think so.
>>84299865A large amount of tranny women, particularly in the Philippines etc... mog real women.
>>84299959Isn't there more at play here than just testosterone levels by themselves? I imagine that the female body could respond differently or more strongly to the same testosterone blood levels than a male body
