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>Gay people don't reproduce
>Thousabds of generations prior to creation of Abrahamic religions for genes for being faggot to disappear through selection
>3-7% of men are still gay across societies


What explains this other than fact it's a social phenomenon?
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>>84300578
I wonder who was the first actual gay guy
Imagine a caveman fucking another caveman
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>>84300578
gay guys had to marry and have kids for a very long time, they couldnt be openly gay
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>>84300578
It is due to structural abnormalities of the brain. Influenced by hormones and genetics. Also gay mens sisters tend to have more kids, statistically.Likely just a fluke of transposing those genes across the sexes. Everybody in pol claims it is due to parasites but theyre morons
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gay men are victims of prepubescent sexual abuse by and large
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>>84300605
also the gays of the old didnt really "fuck"
they kissed, the caressed, the played with each other's cocks, and maybe thigh fucks and butt rubs
but penetration? that's a modern gay thing
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>>84300630
everyone probably had a dirty smelly ass back then
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>>84300620
>gay men are victims of prepubescent sexual abuse by and large
is this really true?
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>>84300578
Same reason masturbating and fucking animals doesn't make you reproduce either yet people do it

Probably because it feels good
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>>84300630
Are u sure about this? Any sources >>84300605
What about gay animals? And how do you explain bottoms, men who wished to be dominated and there are gay men who just can't get it up for women so why do they continue to exist in pretty large numbers across humanity? It has to be some environmental factor >>84300660
I'm gay and don't ever remember being abused but I could've but I don't recall
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>>84300675
what do you mean sources? being gay in past was a literal crime
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>>84300675
I looked it up, it depends on the period and culture
the ancient greeks preferred non-penetrative stuff
the romans abhorred free-citizens who were bottoms but all bets were off when it came to slaves
even the kama sutra has a section for male-male stuff so yeah, there was definitely penetration
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>>84300675
Anal was always in the minority
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>>84300733
oh yeah, no one's ever committed a crime before
everyone ever were all good samaritans
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>>84300578
>genes for being faggot
This doesn't exist.
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>>84300578
>What explains this other than fact it's a social phenomenon?
Man is at least partly, an animal. Our animal natures are concupiscent by default. All manner of perversions and obsessions arise from this.
>intemperate licentiousness abounds in humanity
>humanity realizes that in order to have civilization, they must enforce monogamy
>during the late 20th century, humanity categorizes licentiousness into broad categories
>they medicalize each broad category of licentiousness
>their new religion absolves them of any wrongdoing, insofar as they can pass it off as an "identity"
>I'm not a bad person, I'm just a thrice divorced single mother!
>I'm not a bad person! It's women that want to sleep with me, I just take what I can get!
>I'm not a bad person, I just have bipolar depressive syndrome
>Lol! How does the well-being of society effect you in any way, again? I am very smart!
>etc etc
>civilization starts to unravel
We'll probably correct course once material abundance starts to become threatened, just enough to kick the can down the road.

>>84300630
Anon, man is a vicious and vile creature if permitted to be. Look up the accounts of the Assyrian empire and their campaigns of massacre and torture. The 'licentious of old' are just perverts, and there has always been perverts. Cavemen were probably whittling sticks down to stab themselves through their own dickholes.
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>>84300767
some still did do it, got caught, and they were subjected to very extreme punishments. most of the gay people probably lived closeted lives and acted straight
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>>84300777
>humanity realizes that in order to have civilization, they must enforce monogamy


Monogamy was only a recent phenomenon in civilized society anon. Christianity was major one but China, Middle East , Rome , India and Japan had men with harems while lower strata maybe had 1 or 2.
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>>84300824
afaik romans didnt have harems i dont know where you got that from
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>>84300844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinatus
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>>84300578
Handsome gays are just opening up the dating pool for less handsome straight guys.
>It's an incredibly small pool though.
Yeah but still.
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>>84300818
Sexual immorality in general often carried extreme punishments.
>>84300824
Monogamous families with some sacred value ascribed to marriage bonds form the base level substrate of every civilization that progressed beyond the neolithic longhouses. The more ooga booga you are, the less your community tolerates fucking around. The exceptions prove the rule here.
>>84300844
They are presuppositions of his that he subconsciously ruminates on and forms from advertisements and sensational media productions. He watched Mulan a few decades ago, so now women have been in ancient militias since forever.
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>>84300869
not that anon, but the first five words of the article:
>Concubinatus was a monogamous union
>monogamous
>harem
>monogamous
>harem
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>>84300773
it could be what stephen jay gould calls a genetic spandrel or essentially an inadvertent result of something else entirely. i do think homosexuality has so much more in common with identity and self esteem than sex itself. freud believed it comes from narcissism and he may not be far off. i would hazard a guess that it has a lot to do with being unable to extend male gaze to the outside and so it simply just defaults inwardly. outwardly directed penetrative sex would therefore not make sense if the system can only go in an inward direction. so an attraction to men may not even have anything to do with gender per se and homosexuality may simply be their default sexuality in this case simply because men just so happen to be the penetrative gender and not women.>>84300675
>I'm gay and don't ever remember being abused but I could've but I don't recall
if you ever do recall then you should let me know i'd really like to hear your story some time
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>>84300869
thats a legal definition of a girlfriend, or some type of sex slave, that exists because men were being charged by the state for rape for having sex with women outside of marriage, whether she consented to sex or not, he still got charged with rape.
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>>84300903
The genetic proclivity is likely towards wanton sexual impulse than it is a literal instinct to seek out the same sex. A guy fucking another man's ass has more in common with a "straight" man using a dead squid like a fleshlight than he does a salt of the earth homer and marge simpson peasant couple.
>>84300943
It's interesting that as a society gets more robust, the laws become more pedantic in order to accommodate men and women's misbehavior. I think it's because the grugs can't achieve abundance without bureaucracy, but their only way of manipulating bureaucracy is brute honesty and waving a big stick around, which loses bureaucratically to the fox-like manipulations of a schemer. This explains why the state of things today completely baffle the grugs. We have material abundance, but an immoral society. Grug must think the world is ending.
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>>84300962
>It's interesting that as a society gets more robust, the laws become more pedantic in order to accommodate men and women's misbehavior.

that roman law he posted seems to have been created because julius caesar and augustus created a bunch of sex outside of marriage laws to try to make people stop fucking outside marriage and it didnt work, the courts probably got bogged down with this shit and they got sick of it
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>>84300578
Because most gays are actually bi. Very few humans on Earth are truly homosexual. Gays won't tell you this because they make being gay their whole thing, but it's true.
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>>84301038
>that roman law he posted seems to have been created because julius caesar and augustus created a bunch of sex outside of marriage laws to try to make people stop fucking outside marriage and it didnt work
That was their folly, it's like trying to prevent murders by creating dueling laws.



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