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How can a girl know that you like her?
Do you ever give any hints or signs?
Would you want a girl to approach you and how would you want her to do it?

There is a guy at my work, he is 21 and a khv.
We can both banter and have serious conversations and have started messaging each other outside of work.
He told me he is really insecure about his body and that's why he never had a gf but I find him really attractive.
I sometimes "jokingly" flirt with him or touch him and he just stares at me with a blank expression.
He never gave me any signs that he likes me, should I just drop it?
Is there any chance he does like me but doesn't say it?
He seems like the guy that would lurk r9k so I'm asking you guys.
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dont jokingly flirt with him he probably thinks youre making fun of him
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she doesnt give it up
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Cut off all contact and issue a restraining order against him.
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>>84300863
I want a girl to ask me out but that will never happen because I'm not a Chad. You pigs only will consider asking chads out, not incels, and chads are the most likely to be bothered by the deviation from traditional gender roles.
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>>84300867
I put it in quotes because I'm not really joking about it.
It's my way of testing the waters to see if he is interested in me but I haven't gotten any reassurance that he likes me back.
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>>84300881
This guy is no Chad, as I said, he seems like the type that would lurk r9k.
Maybe he does, I never asked.

How would you want a girl to ask you out?
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>laying in bed with his dirty jeans on

holy shit white people are something else
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>>84300902
White people are crazy, istg. Apparently some of them don't even wash their chicken before cooking it, and don't even circumcize their dogs
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>>84300872
Should I?
I think sometimes I'm pushing it a bit too much.
I'm not sure if I make him feel uncomfortable.
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>>84300927
i didnt read your post i assumed you (male) were talking about a girl
are you fat? if you're fat dont bother the guy
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>>84300922
Not surprised, apparently white guys don't wash their ass either. It's insane.
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>>84300863
i have that in the picture but if i lay on her like that its uncomfy so i do it from an angle

its nice to fall asleep on her chest
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>>84300950
I'm not fat, I work out and I'm in shape
I am a little older than him however.
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>>84300965
Lucky you, it's comfy having someone to cuddle
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>>84300863
>Is there any chance he does like me but doesn't say it?
Considering he's khv at 21 he probably hates himself, and can't imagine a girl being into him. You'll have to really pursue him to make him believe he can be liked. Or just give up
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>>84300863
>>84300998
I'm also 21 khv so sit your ass down and listen!!
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>>84300998
but what if he doesnt like me back and finds my attempts annoying?
I'm already being flirty and I touch him when I get a chance.
He has a very blank stare and doesn't say anything whenever I do that.
Usually I laugh it off and say "What?" or something and then he changes the topic

How else can I pursue him?
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>>84300966
if he talks to you of his own volition he probably likes you enough
i dont talk to people so i dont know how relationships work.
If I had to answer, touching in general like hands, eye contact, maybe with smiling idk, in general being close enough that it's almost too close depending on your culture. if a woman started asking about my day and what i'll be doing in the future i think it'd become pretty obvious.
but if you are asking for signs it doesnt have to be particularly obvious but if he's messaging or approaching you first or asking personal questions i guess it's a good sign? but not everyone will do that especially if he is at all like me. i guess a classic way is to stop messaging first for a while and if he doesnt message you he you might just kind of be around and he's not interested but again i wouldnt just trust that
idk i always thought that if people like each other enough theyll spend enough time that they get comfortable and start hanging out. or you can just try to get a conversation with him probably into relationships territory and try to probe him a little or writing something like "i really like talking to you" it's quite explicit but not offensive. but if you lurk you know how some spectrum tards ignore hilariously obvious signs anyway. some people just dont get clues and literal language like that should work. or so i think.
just curious but how old are you?
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>>84301036
>but what if he doesnt like me back and finds my attempts annoying?
You can't know unless you keep pushing

>He has a very blank stare and doesn't say anything whenever I do that.
I'd do the same, even if I had a massive crush on you. I'd think you're just setting me up to get humiliated
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>>84301067
He does message me first but it's always just been friendly from his end.
We also do talk about personal stuff, we did talk about relationships and I asked what his age range is and he said up to 23. I'm 27. So that's a bad sign.

>If I had to answer, touching in general like hands, eye contact, maybe with smiling idk,
I do casually touch him. His hair is slightly longer so once I put some of his hair behind his ear while also touching his ear slowly. I turned myself on ngl, but he just stared at me.
I felt like a creep a bit in that moment, maybe that was too far.

>>84301095
>I'd think you're just setting me up to get humiliated
Why would that be the assumption? It's clearly me showing interest.
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>>84301112
>Why would that be the assumption? It's clearly me showing interest.
So you can laugh at him when he asks you out. He's a deeply insecure inexperienced guy, he really might expect you to do that
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>>84301122
I think we're good enough of friends at this point that he would know I wouldn't do that.
Besides, there is the issue of me being out of his dating age range.
So maybe the blank stare is him being disgusted. This thought has kept me up at night.
I hope he doesn't hate me.
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>>84301147
>So maybe the blank stare is him being disgusted
I doubt that.

You're going to have to be the man in the relationship and ask him out, making your intentions clear, or just give up on him completely
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>>84301147
>>84301168
Forgot to add I'd also find it hard to believe a woman 6 years my senior would consider me as a serious romantic option
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>>84301168
I can't just risk it all and possibly make it awkward, I still have to work with the guy and see him every day
I wouldn't mind doing that if he just gave me a sign, any sign of interest at all
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>>84301187
Sure, he might grow some self-confidence and ask you out himself, but that could take years. You really need to go for this or make your peace with it not happening
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>>84301185
He is a little autistic about his interests and hobbies and is really good at them too, that does something for me.
I find him irresistible. I do wonder sometimes if it's just lust or if I could have a long term relationship with him.
I would be willing to give it a go and find out.

I do understand why age would be an issue though. I'm sure he would rather have a girl his own age.
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>>84301199
Do I ask him if he wants to grab a drink together?
How do you ask someone out?
I've never done it
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>>84301211
>How do you ask someone out?
You're asking another 21yo virgin lol. No need to overthink it, I'm sure your guy is more scared of messing up then you are
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>>84300863
just think ask him out directly for fucks sake. hes too much of a pussy to make a move
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>>84301230
>>84301234

Fuck it, I'll go for it
I'll ask him if he wants to grab a drink sometime
Hopefully he doesn't say no
Thank you Anons
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>>84301112
>I'm 27. So that's a bad sign.
a 21 year old hitting on a 27 year old takes serious balls im not gonna lie, like even if he was a huge player he would need to have a lot of courage to go for that
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>>84300863
It's crazy to me how far behind some people are socially. This is stuff you figure out 14-18.
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>>84301112
>but he just stared at me
>I asked what his age range is and he said up to 23. I'm 27
you're a woman so you can do whatever the fuck you want and i'm not an age purist but you should probably stop having your hopes up, keep being nice to him though i guess if he and see if he changes his mind.
Human brains have pretty decent wiring to pick up on stuff like this, there is a case to be made that if youre a man you might have to be a bit more insistent and assertive but the other way around not so much
>>84301309
crazy to me how this place is flooded with retarded tourist normalfaggots and they even care to hide it
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nigga he is a khv if you are anything higher than a 3/10 he will like you back stop being a faggot and ask him out because people that insecure are never going to do it themselves. you have the power to make his life so much better and make yourself happier too. you dont gotta say "hey be my gf" just ask him to hang out after work sometime and take it from there. faggot
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>>84301373
>nigga
this NIGGER has no clue what hes talking about
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A good way that has happened to me a few times is text him and ask him for a car ride or for him to accompany you or something because you're (going to be) stranded or alone. Then you're together. If he's incel he still maybe thinking pessimistically lije not reading between the lines and may not make a move. It's an interesting scenario. You could just get real close to him, put his arm around you and get closer until you're face to face and a kiss just happens.


I always consider that the man should initiate and it's just one of the many tests the girl runs on you. Does he have the balls to do it? Remember, if you guide him through it and become the man in the relationship, this may bode badly for the rest of it since he could remain passive and womanly without growing and becoming the man he needs to be. And to guys reading this, are you the man or a bitch?

If you make it too easy for him, prepare to get sick of him later on and probably cheat.
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>>84301502
believe it or not some people actually arent fucking psychopaths and need all their relationships to be long running mind games. sometimes you can just be honest with someone and it works out.
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>>84301537
We're talking about women though
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>>84300895
>This guy is no Chad, as I said, he seems like the type that would lurk r9k.
he is probably 8/10 in looks and this foid is trying to tell us he is one of us
fuck off
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>>84300891
You know it would be really cool? Is if one day he comes in and just blows you the fuck away along with 12 other co-workers before eventually getting aired out by the police. All because you wanted to play the same bullshit games that he is probably already told you about how he hates. No guy who has zero success with women, appreciates the bullshit that you're doing. And you deserve to get a bullet to the head for it.
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>>84300863
Sounds like the guy has no clue about sexuality, or how to advance things.
I guess just be direct and tell him you want him 'like that'. Then, leave the ball in his court.
>How can a girl know that you like her?
We have cocks and we want to use them. We'll stare at anyone, or steal glances, given these fucked times.
>Do you ever give any hints or signs?
Not if we don't want to get arrested in this fucked day and age. Just staring or repeated glances, I guess.
It's so much simpler if the woman makes it clear she wants me. Which they never fucking do.
>Would you want a girl to approach you and how would you want her to do it?
Absolutely. Just say you want me sexually and invite me to your place for a few hours of sex. I hate 'dating'.
The most I ever got IRL were foids making eyes at me, but always with cockblockers around.
They never spoke to me, so I remain an incel at close to 40. Yes, I am very bitter.
I've never had the cuddling on the bed thing either.
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>How can a girl know that you like her?
It depends on what kind of girl the man is looking for. For me, if you're a white woman between 18-30 years old, and if you have refused every single vaccine and PCR test swab after 2019, then I'm all yours.

>Do you ever give any hints or signs?
Unfortunately no. I'm still very cautious when it comes to any form of interaction with girls while I'm out in public.

>Would you want a girl to approach you and how would you want her to do it?
I don't mind if a girl approaches me. She can just walk right up to me and initiate a conversation. When it comes to flirting, she needs to keep to a minimum while we're out in the middle of public.

>I sometimes "jokingly" flirt with him or touch him and he just stares at me with a blank expression.
If he doesn't change his mind after 2 more attempts, then dump him.
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>>84300895
>How would you want a girl to ask you out?
Ask me out as if its just as friends and then during make it very clear that it is not just as friends. Ambush!
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just be direct and sincere and bold, men like that
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>>84300863
stop playing games and just ask him out lol. Why does everything needs to be so complicated
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>>84300863
After our hug she told me she knew.
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>>84300863

As someone who was a khv until I was 26, and also was too insecure to even bother trying to find a gf:

I realized (a few years too late) that several girls have tried to hit on me and I was just too oblivious because I couldn't imagine anyone being interested in me.
One girl asked me what my ideal gf would be, and then seemed a little disappointed after I basically said I wanted one who would be good with tech. She also asked me if she should break up with her current bf. I just assumed she wanted someone to talk to about it until like a year later or so, when I had moved away and it would have been to awkward to bring it up again.
Another one invited me to a BBQ in a park and at some point she (I assumed jokingly) asked if it was a date. Flew right past my dense head.
Also I never tried to initiate any relationship with anyone because I assumed every girl was either taken or not interested.

Finally ended up on a dating app, because I assumed if someone was on a dating app, they weren't taken, and if they bothered to chat with me if meant they were interested, without having to do the whole hinting and picking up on hints crap. (was still worried someone would just make fun of me though)
Got lucky and found a girl there who managed to realize I was too retarded for "the game" and she basically managed to take the initiative and kiss me on one of the dates because I was too afraid to make a move.

Basically, either you "man up" and take charge and drop playing games, or you'll lose him. Hopefully he's not on my level or you're gonna have to be much more clear/direct than you're comfortable with lmao
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>>84300863
I have never loved
you've been muted
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>>84300863
>He never gave me any signs that he likes me, should I just drop it?
No
>Is there any chance he does like me but doesn't say it?
Yes
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>>84300863
old married guy here. Love is cool until it runs out. This urge to achieve love is a trick. Women are demons and will make you suffer.
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>>84300891
>It's my way of testing the waters
stop emotionally abusing men.
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>>84301036
>but what if he doesnt like me back and finds my attempts annoying?
men have to deal with this their entire lives.
you are a coward trying to offload your discomfort onto him.
fuck you.
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>>84301187
>I can't just risk it all and possibly make it awkward
i hate women so much it's unreal.
you are already making it awkward, except all the shame and awkwardness is put on him. you are a dumb narcissist.
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>>84301564
old r9k spirit here
>>84302759
> This urge to achieve love is a trick. Women are demons and will make you suffer.
B A S E D
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>>84303032
This is a normal thing to do. You don't just go flirting with someone who is not interested. You try to find out if they're feeling it too first.
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>>84303043
how is it put on him?
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I feel like this thread is just more ragebait to demoralize us but whatever. A woman being into a non-Chad autist younger than her and possibly asking him out? What a dream.
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>>84303171
>>84303173
You are emotionally retarded.
Men take risks all the time. Men get rejected. Men flirt with people who aren't interested.
What you want to do is get all the benefits without any of the risks (the only real risk to you here is being rejected). What's worse is that you're basically teasing him with your vague bullshit and he (correctly) thinks you're playing mind games. Typical foid behavior.
If this is real, be direct and tell him what you want openly. No dumbfuck hints, no games, no poking him to get him to do what you want.
Stop this retarded shit and go tell him you like him.
If he reciprocates, be grateful he decided to give you a chance after all the manipulative bullshit you tried to pull. I hope he rejects you, honestly. Being with you sounds like a never-ending mindfuck nightmare.
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>>84303213
>Men flirt with people who aren't interested.
nta but that's what she's doing too. She's flirting with him and he isn't interested
>be direct and tell him what you want openly.
bad idea. I think she should drop it. He said she's not in his age range. If he was interested he would include her age



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