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is this true? I've never left my own country, hell I haven't even gone to a town in my own country alone, much less a whole different country.
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>>84302775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg8Jahz6RM4&
Yeah, you feel accomplished
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>>84302775
It feels like nothing. Everywhere is just a place full of suffering people barely surviving. I feel like an alien everywhere and people see me as an alien everywhere. If you are lost and unhappy at home, you probably won't be happy and secure in some foreign shit hole. "Le aesthetic" and "omg vibezz" are bullshit.
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every city in every country is a shithole
every city. every country. all shitholes. all of them
>oh but heres a staged photo of a city in china
No. All of them
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>>84302787
This thing about "if you're X at home you'll take it with you" is probably true long-term, but I find travelling definitely helps overcome the worse parts of your personality. I was a fearful, naive shut-in lacking the confidence to move forward in life, but when I went travelling solo I actually realised that I had been LARPing as that kind of character, and was actually able to sort out my shit pretty well. It feels good to be alone in a foreign country and to reach the point where you have to keep making decisions and taking action because otherwise you don't enjoy your time, which can be applied to life on a bigger scale.

This year I went on holiday alone, found myself sleeping in a shitty old tent with aching feet, and I really felt that in a few decades this discomfort would mean nothing to me. It was freeing. I found the nearest cafe and some local guys started talking to me, and not long after that I had dinner with a cute girl who I struck up conversation with. In the following days another cute girl approached me after I was the only guy on a busy bus to hold up the line so an older guy could get his bags down from the rack without people shoving past him, and a day after that a qt approached me in a supermarket where I was shopping alone at night. Shit like that doesn't happen back home, and maybe it was because I was a traveller, but travelling can be great, and I say that as someone who used to mock the idea of travelling and taking insta photos in front of monuments you don't care about to impress your friends/followers.
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>>84302817
absolutely based, i've made this post almost word for word before
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>>84302775
depends on your personality archetype
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How far you've come my ass. Same shit different stink. The world is so small now that there's no point in traveling. At any time you desire you can be around poor brown people who can't speak English and like crime by driving an hour or two down the interstate in any direction. What's the point of filing forms for a passport?
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traveling to exotic locations is the highest accomplishment for normies. it shows you have money and free time but also that you are cultured and open minded. also roasties love traveling so men must pretend they love it too
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>>84302775
I mean its pretty cool but hardly a life-changing transformative experience. Hanging out in Prague by myself was fun but hardly changed my life. I'm still glad I did it thoughever.
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>>84302817
Major cities, yes. They're all overpriced tourist trap hellholes. Countries & those cities put A LOT of money into tourism advertising to get people there. These days that means paying jewtubers and other "content creators".
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>>84302898
That part sucks. When I went away I instantly avoided the tourist area and found some area where only locals went to eat. I couldn't understand why so many tourists just stopped immediately in the tourist area to eat, it was so over-priced.
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>>84302888
>also roasties love traveling so men must pretend they love it too
ngl i like traveling but not all the normalfag shit, what i do could be achieved in a remote cabin if i lived in the usa
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>>84302819
Travel just exacerbated the worst parts of my personality. Seeing starving alcoholics and drug addicts squatting in alleyways leering back at me in a foreign city didn't make me more confident, or happier. It just made me more firm in my understanding than everywhere and everything is terrible unless you are a rich psychopath who is able to ignore what a horrifying nightmare existence is for most living things.

Talking to and fucking stupid sluts in a foreign country who see you as an extra dick to add to their miles upon miles is nothing special or important. Pretending to slum it while always having a nice, warm bed waiting for you means nothing. Suffering doesn't build character, success and privilege builds character. Having everything and not caring about others is what most people view as "happiness". Getting high in Vietnam is no different to getting high in the suburbs, the only difference is that people will pretend to be interested when you talk about the former. The only way people can respond to talking about these obvious truths and realities is to just call you cynical or jealous or something, even though you yourself have had their exact same boring experiences that mean nothing.
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>>84302902
Because they see those places advertised all over social media, which are all paid for. Entire restaurants are now catering to the social media crowd with how they design their menus and dining areas. Social media is easily one of the worst things to have ever happened to humanity.
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>>84302911
I agree with all of that, but on a personal, selfish level I got something out of it, which is important to my own development. I needed some kind of test to remind myself that I'm capable, and travelling did that for me. I went to some touristy places to try and feel something but it was boring. Not sure if I'll go again, but I enjoyed talking to qt foreign girls and traveling somewhere new each day, it felt like an adventure even with everything else taken into consideration. Also, the alcoholic guy I met was friendly and not an object of pity, I don't think he would begrudge me travelling because I wanted to.
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>>84302920
Where I went it was just because it was in the central part of town, near the train station and hotels etc. I just walked 15 minutes in a random direction and found a huge indoor market with only locals visiting there. It did make me feel bad that when I looked it up later that city had some of the toughest living conditions (salary vs rent) of any in that country, which is hard to notice when you're a tourist drifting through.
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>>84302775
>I've never left my own country
Neither have I, anon. I never gave a shit about owning a passport, and 'muh traveling'. I was too poorfag to ever care.
But now, I'm being forced to eventually buy one because 'muh photo ID'. It has become very inconvenient to not have one.
Yet when I eventually get a passport, I will still never travel abroad.
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>>84302944
>I looked it up later that city had some of the toughest living conditions
Here's my problem with tourists. They'll go to very specific locations, stay there, hit up all the typical spots, and then make one giant sweeping judgment on the country as a whole. So if they go to Cancun and only stay on the resort, they now think Mexico is a great country. The one good thing of diversity taking over typical tourist locations, Eiffel Tower for example, is that they're forced to be confronted with how shit those places are now.
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>>84302973
Agreed. I make no claims about the country I visited as a whole, except in economic info I learned online and from talking to people.

I also don't understand people (normies, frankly) who says things like "you can do [X City] in two days and then it's boring". It's like they are chasing highs or something, which are in turn provided to them by tourist boards or social media.

To be honest the main thing I enjoyed about going on holiday alone was the feeling of carefree confidence I gained, and also the female attention I received as an otherwise beta hermit. I was essentially LARPing as a "traveller". If I was younger I would have travelled more, if only for the prospect of meeting a cute girl and having either a holiday romance or ideally something longer-lasting. I must say I do quite like the personality of travellers I met, they were generally curious, interesting, physically fit, non-judgemental, open-minded people, whereas when I return to my hometown and my job people don't tend to be like that for the most part. The sense of adventure was important, and encourages me to view life the same way, which it essentially is (an adventure).
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>>84302998
>you can do [X City] in two days and then it's boring
This is mostly because these are young normies that don't have families. They end up never leaving the downtown area where their hotel is. All any of them do is go shopping, eat at touristy restaurants, bar hop, and maybe hit up a club or two. So yeah, they technically do cover everything in 2 days and have nothing else left to see.
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>>84302775
>through a foreign city
does london, bongistan count?
(I was born there)
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I go to a foreign school and I feel like a failure. I was studying at a top university in the US (<10% acceptance rate) and transferred but feel regret because the program abroad is so underwhelming and cold. What's more, I lack true friends and have developed depression.
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>>84302775
I have severe IBS so I don't feel comfortable being more than 90 minutes from home. I'll never travel to a foreign land in my life.
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>>84302775
I spent six months in Japan. Avoided the normie tier places like Tokyo and spent time in relatively untravelled cities like Shizuoka, Matsuyama, Wakayama etc. I was the only white dude around for hours some days.

I'll be honest, yes, it's amazing. But at the same time, you realise how privileged you are to be able to do this. Since Japs pay is so low, and their hourly work hours are so high, they would never be able to travel like me.

It does change your mindset a bit experiencing new cultures and shit. It also gives you stories you can bring up in conversation back home. It didn't really change me. I'm still an autistic outcast loner person. But I would do what I did again with no hesitation if I could.
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>>84302775
I dont see how being able to afford a plane ticket shows you have "made it far"
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Imagine travelling and being so busy smelling your own farts instead of mirin how everything is so different.

Even the tiniest things or mild inconveniences are fun knowing you're only going to be there like a few days or weeks
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>>84302775
>hop on an incredibly safe passenger jet for a mere $200 bux
Such an achievement.

It may sound silly because I'm only gatekeeping myself, but I'm only going overseas if I sail there personally. It might actually feel like a journey, and not just taking a shuttle bus (plane) to the next attraction (foreign city) on Planet Disney (earth).
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>>84302775
Travel is the penultimate normgroid activity. You have to understand, normie existance is about doing as little as possible while telling everyone else youve done as much as possible, its all marketing for social brownie points without having done anything
>i went somewhere and ate food! I am better than you(a welder or whatever)
This is why all normies are hyperfocused on fake jobs, the ones that sell you trash or even false promises with no product, they convince you you need a thing, give you that thing or tell you how to get that thing, then you realize not only did you not need that thing but you specifically dis-needed it and it was a waste, but your money is already gone and now youre a financial statistic that justifies the normies existance to shareholders and investors to get more money for nothing
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>>84304807
most people, even normies, dont have the balls to travel across the world on their own, gaining that confidence is a big step, especially if you were a NEET in the past
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>>84304796
Are you the guy from Wizchan who cycled around Japan because you were convinced the world was going to end?



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