>There was nothing >Then a big bang >from this big bang 4 forces of universe arrived >thats why we exist Do people actually believe this?
>>84304024>Do people actually believe this?yes
>>84304024>Do people actually believe this?Whats the alternative? The imaginary sky God just made us and then made us write a book called the bible? lol
>>84304024Science is gay and evil. Science made satellites that allow me to look at any porn I want at any time I want
>>84304024What is the most advanced math class you've taken?
>>84304028>>84304026>>84304029>>84304031It gets funnier >then planets and stars started forming >these planets somehow got non alive matter to replicate itself and mutate into modern day human beings
No and actually science is always being changed now there's string theory or some other theory.
>>84304029No retard it connects to ur router and ur router connects to the isp tower with underground cables which then goes to connect u to the porn with underground cables
>>84304035Planets are just elements formed together by heat. You sound really dumb anon.
>>84304079>the porn with underground cablesThat explains why my porn is always dirty
>>84304035The issue isn't so much proximate, intermediate causation, that an atheist might have trouble explaining. For you can give a reasonably naturalistic account for the origins of species like through Darwinian evolution. No, rather it is remote causes which atheists have trouble working in, and it is on this account that Aquinas argues reductio ad absurdum in his second way.
>>84304024>There was nothingNo one says that, we just don't know.
>>84304149What happens when we do know?
>>84304173I'm sorry, I can't predict the future.
>>84304184And you can never see into the past either
>>84304094Why are you writing like a redditor, retard? I'm not a crosscuck either but you sound like you have a stick up your ass. Stop being so pretentious and go back>>>reddit.com
>>84304190I do remember things from my past, and I can infer stuff as well.
>>84304200Yes, only your imaginations and memories, which can change over time, If a bear shits in the words, and you didn't see him do it, did you actually watch the bear shit in the woods?
>>84304199>pretentiousU r Projectioning
No atheist has been able to explain how nothing can come from nothing.Just look at this thread. It's just edgy trolling and immediately poking fun at Christianity even though no one here is Christian.
>>84304220We are not talking about that, if I find bear shit in the woods I can be pretty sure that a bear shat in that spot in the woods.
>>84304246And you didn't actually watch the bear shit in the woods.Bear=Origin of UniverseBear Shit=You and Me
>>84304239There is Stephen Hawking who was able to propose a theory on it.
>>84304024makes more sense than imagining we were made by a god who specifically favors the jews / the arabs / the punjabis or whatever
>>84304270It still doesn't matter, inferring is a valid way of thinking.
>>84304239nothing doesn't existthere was always somethingi don't think there was a deliberate action caused by a creator deity
>>84304024the alternative choice is either it has existed forever or someone made it, your choice on what to believe.
>>84304329>there was always something>i don't think there was a deliberate action caused by a creator deityThese two statements contradict each other. What was that "something" if not created?
>>84304335>u exist>we dont know why or how>u go on with ur life like it's normal to be sentient being
>>84304399i probably exist because my parents has sex at some point, just my thoughts tho
>>84304321How to think is not the problem. The problem is trying to understand what a "bear" is when we are all still just bear shit in the grand scheme of things. We don't even have fungus growing in our pile of bear shit yet
>>84304443Your take on the bear analogy doesn't work here because there's just one universe we can myopically observe, and not even all of it at that. This is very different from what we know about bears. But based on what we can see, we infer that past events must have happened in a certain way. That's all.
>>84304486It's an analogy. The bear is not a real bear. You are a peice of bear shit without a single nerve cell in your pile and you argue that you can figure out everything, yet an apology confuses you so you argue with it
>>84304507>You are a peice of bear shit without a single nerve cell in your pileThis is an arbitrary hypothesis, there's no reason to accept it other than one liking it.>and you argue that you can figure out everythingIt's true that we might not be intelligent enough or be in the right position to ever figure out everything, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't give it a try.
>>84304539>This is an arbitrary hypothesis, there's no reason to accept it other than one liking it.It started out as an analogy, but now I am not so sure>It's true that we might not be intelligent enough or be in the right position to ever figure out everything, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't give it a try.Because analogies confuse you. Before you can understand the universe you must first be able to understand analogies
Purines can collapse into orderly forms given enough dice rolls. That's why we exist.
>>84304636Your life has more meaning than that
who the fuck cares if its true or notas if it had any impact on your porn wired brain
>>84304024> Do people actually believe this?Only retards who don't understand what the big bang actually is.
>>84304035> non alive matterThat is all matter, life does not really exist. Its just an arbitrary category we invented, it only exists in our minds.
>>84304024That's our best understanding of how we're here, yes, although you're outdated since I think the Big Crunch has taken over where the universe collapses and explodes continuously.That's the thing about science, it's not a hard fact like your man in the sky, it's an ever evolving understanding that has and will get updated as we become smarter and our tools become better.
>>84304190We're constantly looking into the past, Anon, you'd know this if you had even a basic understanding of science, have you even graduated high school yet?
>>84304024>there was nothingWas there? Or wasnt there? Idk it would be nothing so there wouldnt be anything to have been
>>84304636You need more dice rolls than there have been seconds since the age of the universe, and science believes life arose on Earth like 4.4 billion years ago when the universe could only even have formed planets for maybe 9 billion years. Abiogenesis is such a statistical improbability that at most it occurred perhaps once or twice, if that (the other potential being that it is literally impossible and aliens or some computer system created the universe), and all life on Earth (and Mars) is the product of alien stardust that drifted here 4.4 billion years ago when everything in the universe was closer together (stars, asteroids, comets can move up to 1% light speed so could easily cross the vast interstellar void). Abiogenesis as scientists teach is simply nonsense and part of their religion and junk they use to gain funding.
>>84305476The past and the future are irrelevant. You are seen for who you are in the present. You are currently angry
