In John Calhoun's rat utopia experiments, universe 25's collapse showed women exibiting many of the behaviors we are seeing now.However when the female rats who survived were introduced to healthy societies, they did not correct. They remained broken.Why do I say this? Look up videos of western women trying to date in Eastern countries. Not only do they say its a blow to their self esteem and they have no luck, but rather than adapt they stay the same and seek to go back to western countries.I am afraid the damage done to women may not be reversable and COVID sealed the behavioral sink.
Why would they adapt to an inferior style? They really aren't asking for much, a non deadbeat that can contribute with the chores a bit, that's it.
>>84305085They're not broken. You just failed to adapt to changing times.
>oh my heckin' science did you hear about this EXPERIMENT???>praise Fauci
Similar behaviors to the rat utopia are observable in the very few matriarchal tribes we've had on earth. I believe the west is essentially a cultural matriarchy with a financial patriarchy, but that's changing as well. Frankly, we're probably fucked.
>>84305085source on pic? looks familiar somehow
>>84305102You could argue the rat utopia was a superior lifestyle. They had everything they could ever want.You are downplaying the demands of modern women.... unless you are Japanese. I get where they are coming from. Sharing housework isn't a big deal.Point is once there is low trust and no replacement population and the ones having kids refuse to raise their kids, you have a ticking time bomb on your hands.>>84305294https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2oHere is a summary.>>84305122>Fail to adapt>every job they have is government incentivized via tax breaks and government programs>Sue non stop cause "muh HR harassment"claimsMen are adapting. They are tuning out and simulating the same behavior of the experiment, which should worry you.
>>84305085>>84305122Men in the changing economy will face the same risks for depression that women faced in older economies: trapped in a family role from which they cannot escape because of an inability to find employment.Compared to women, many men attach a great importance to their roles as providers and protectors of their families. Failure to fulfill the role of breadwinner is associated with greater depression and marital conflictResearch shows that since the beginning of the recession in 2007 roughly 75% of the jobs lost in the United States were held by men. Women are increasingly the primary household earners, with 22% of wives earning more than their husbands in 2007 as compared to only 4% in 1970. There is little reason to believe that traditional male jobs will return in significant numbers even when the economy fully recovers
>>84305129>>84305449https://youtu.be/BZd5yJGKMmM
>>84305294Its the chick from Golden Boy. A anime from the 90s about Kintaro Oe, a young man who travels around on a bike in Japan studying new things, taking odd jobs and scoring with ladies
>>84305449The free ride for women is drying up, though. It's a bit subtle still but it's evident if you look. In 5 years time the landscape could be quite different and a lot of these daycare jobs could be mass cut.
>>84305449Just give houses to everyone and they can think about having kids. What kind of utopia is that where you work full time 20 years and still have to live with your parents if you want to have some sort of saving
>>84305465https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/help-wanted-too-many-men-030001002.htmlMen are adapting by opting out. Women in the traditional male roles like construction have been a disaster and women aren't filling the roles. You think women would be concerned and atleast start faking concern for men, but no. They keep pushint feminist female centered bullshit because focusing on men is seen as taking away from government resources spent on women. Women have become the rats from the behavioral sink experiments.>>84305468There are reasons Matriarchies fail.
>>84305516I get what you're saying, and global wars in Iran are gonna cut benefits worlds wide.However behavioral sink is permanent. What I am asking is if women have hit behavioral sink, because once you do it's irreversible, even if they are brought into a functional society.I believe women have because when their career sends them to an east asian country for work, they do not adapt. They complain and refuse to change in any way.>>84305520Ironically giving more benefit to womens does not increase birthrates or change behaviors. It's counterintuitive but true.I do think bringing back cyberbullying or banning social media MIGHT give a fighting chance. But it's hard to say. Western women in east asia still not adapting after being on a job assignment for 8 years is CRAZY and seems like behavioral sink
>>84305465>Men in the changing economy will face the same risks for depression that women faced in older economies: trapped in a family role from which they cannot escape because of an inability to find employment. Men are not going to be housewives. It doesn't even matter if it makes us depressed or not. Lots of things make us depressed.Women will not tolerate it. Women demand men who are breadwinners. Even when they don't need it. Women with all the money in the world want breadwinners. Reverse Cinderella doesn't happen. Men make money for women, women don't make money for men. And it's not the men who make this decision.
>>84305666>Trips of truthWas gonna disagree with your first sentence until your last paragraph said exactly what I was gonna say.Men would be willing to adapt by staying at home. Hell for a lot or guys that is a dream and a lot of the bitching women do over "hurr durr house work is slavery" would laugh and do it with no complaints while she complains that working is hard and resent her husband.>Then I realized that women resent men no matter what. They genuinely blame everyone for their emotional state.>They will even blame their children they chose to birth for their unhappiness>Why custody defaults to women in divorce is absolutely evil and hurts children more than anything else they could go through
>>84305703>for a lot or guys that is a dream and a lot of the bitching women do over "hurr durr house work is slavery" would laugh and do it with no complaintsI'm gonna push back a little here. It's correct that a man could get used to cooking and cleaning, but you forget that men and women have different standards. Remember, as a man, I am happy living in a box with a Playstation. Women need all sorts of random bullshit on the walls and stuff to validate them or whatever, and having to deal with all that crap as a man while the wife is constantly pissed off that you're not able to know exactly what she wants you to do without her explicitly telling you is still a recipe for disaster. Plus, she's not going to explain it succinctly, she's going to meander and dramatize everything like she's suffering so much just because I don't understand how exactly she wants me to hang a fucking tapestry or something (and frankly, neither does she).
>>84306172I mean we're kinda on the same page here. Men would be happy switching roles, women would not but also wouldn't want to say it and would just get upswt and blame the man who is takings care of the home.Then she makes it hell by micromanaging HOW you do things and tells you everything you do is wrong.And it's not because it is, it's just to make the man as miserable as her.
>>84305128>Yes, fellow redditor, I too get all my opinions from anime girl vtubers!
>>84306786Unrelated but I fucking hate Kirsche. Thing is I used to like her cause she was funny and made dirty jokes.>Then she was ALWAYS a victim>Then she turned her stream into a safe space>Then she ignored everything that made her political side look bad and tried saying the Epstien leaks were a nothingburger>Then she goes after people but cries when people shit on her>Then she cries about not being able to find a man but then lists of the most retarded icks like a guy having a dog.What a stupid bitch. She deserves the hate she gets
>>84306906I don't know what you're talking about, but I agree with you 100%.
>>84307187You are better not knowing.My youtube history is shameful and I blame the gay ass algorithm forcing me to watch shit cause search barely works and feed updates are a mess.
>>84305102>They really aren't asking for much, a non deadbeat that can contribute with the chores a bit, that's it.Not really. Women demand a lot more than that. They're just so spoiled they lack awareness of it all. Women are self serving and delusional by an extreme degree.
>>84305449>They had everything they could ever want.Nigga are you joking?Mice dwellings were overcrowded 10000 times comparing to max density observed in nature.Dwellings were open top while in nature mice instinctively seek tight enclosed holes (predators escape instinct) and become nervous in open spaces.Food was shit, seeds only without animal products, while mice lovw to add fars and proteins to their diet (cheese been staple meme bait).They were incredibly in read (all colony been relatives fro several pairs), mice can smell relatives and chase them out from territory (inbreeding escaping instinct).Mice utopia was move hell actually, it is very telling about how communist ideology works.
>>84307207>My youtube history is shameful and I blame the gay ass algorithm forcing me to watch shitWhat??? >aaaaaiiiiiiieeeeee save me niggerman, i have mr beast paying 50 homeless people to floss on a george floyd's grave in my recommendations and i MUST click on it!Just don't? YouTube gave up on recommending me shit I haven't already watched or listened to years ago.
>>84308222Reminds me about another mice experiments https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction>Alexanders experiments, in the 1970s, have come to be called the Rat Park.1 Researchers had already proved that when rats were placed in a cage, all alone, with no other community of rats, and offered two water bottles-one filled with water and the other with heroin or cocaine-the rats would repetitively drink from the drug-laced bottles until they all overdosed and died. Like pigeons pressing a pleasure lever, they were relentless, until their bodies and brains were overcome, and they died.Drugs are bad ok? But then...>put rats in rat parks, where they were among others and free to roam and play, to socialize and to have sex. And they were given the same access to the same two types of drug laced bottles. When inhabiting a rat park, they remarkably preferred the plain water. Even when they did imbibe from the drug-filled bottle, they did so intermittently, not obsessively, and never overdosed. A social community beat the power of drugs.
>>84305122>by her late twenties>she has her pick of high earning good looking...Who the fuck believes in this meme?Men. do. not. give. a. fuck. about what she earns.Especially those who are high earning themselfes.They care about her not being a bitch, being physically attractive, youthful/fertile looking, being nice, laughing at his jokes and showing genuine attraction to him, etc.But she could be a goddamn minimum wage shelf-stacker at 7-eleven for all they care.Can someone PLEASE explain to these Foids that their career doesn't fucking matter as an asset of attracting males.
>>84309222>woman becomes her own perfect man, blames men
>>84308222How is it not an accurate simulacrum of modern society?
>>84309521Yeah overcrowding aspect and lack of of satisfaction with housing is definitely similar. Paying half of your salary for tiny appartment sucks.But anon I was answering too said>They had everything they could ever wantThey only had infinite slop food. This is not only things they wanted, everything else they didn't have.You can't call extreme overcrowding "Utopia". Though commies very othen did. Like they parade USSR around "free housing take this capitalists!". While Soviet workers were packed like sardines into the barracks.
