What would society be like?I mean no special treatment at all.How do you think women would behave?What chnages do you think would be obvious compared to now?>IMO>We'd have tons of Tomboys>Body count wouldn't matter like it doesn't with men, but they would be looking to lock down guys so they also wouldn't be so high.
>>84306663The transexual agenda killed the tomboy movement.I'll never forgive them for this. Never.
>>84306797Whats crazy is that shit was pushed by Jeffrey Epstien
Life would be a lot easier for women
>>84306663The world would be way better and more peaceful. Idk how much the standards that genders are set to are because of how people are or how they were socialized, I think like 50/50. This world is hard to imagine because I think the majority of the world likes gender roles but maybe that's more socialization, since society is already so different compared to 200 years ago
>>84306663it's almost impossible to imagine. women have it easier in every aspect of life so literally everything would change. most women would become unemployed and broke overnight for a start since OF and dei jobs would disappear
>>84306981its kinda funny how men on here genuinely think most women have onlyfans and not just regular jobs. porn really is a disease that warps peoples brains irreversibly
>>84306897Yes and no. Over all, ABSOLUTELY>The end of life feeling invisible and useless crap would go away overnight because women would be expected to be just as capable as men.But they wouldn't get away with shit behavior. They get arrested they serve as much as a man would. They fuck up turning in a paper, no forgiveness from the professor. They throw a tantrum and make a scene they get kicked out.So they would be well behaved and capable, which would make them likeable....So no pussy passBut more support structure from being likable and capable
>>84307011I said DEI jobs which is what most women have though? See this is what we are talking about.
>>84307011Oh no, I'm familiar with women in the workspace.Let me tell you, if it weren't for fear of harassment/Discrimination lawsuits and government programs pushing to hire women, 90% would be fired.
>>84306663I think most of them would kill themselves. I always think back to this one female author or whoever that pretended to be a man for a while and had to stop her little experiment early because she was being treated so shitty it was fucking up her mental health bad. Hilarious, but also goes to show how bad men have it and why 99% of women wouldn't survive a day in a man's shoes.
>>84307025women are expected to be more capable than men, and they are. Hence with the same standards it would be easier for women, since men can't really handle the added expectations
>>84306981I have a hard time imaging it too. I also am not gonna pretend differences in the sexes would go away or that women wouldn't get sexual attention from men and have an edge in a dating market.Closest I can imagine is a society where the default is girls who are mostly tom boys and the pussy pass doesn't exist.>Social stigmas would have to be different.>If a girl tries using a pussy pass, it's not only met with denial but disdain>If a girl starts trying to gosip she is treated as poorly as a male who gossips>If a girl is obsessed with fashion and girly stuff shes mocked for liking useless crap.>She gets applauded for achievement>She is expected to control her emotions>She is expected to be as interesting in starting a conversation as a manTechnically the biology doesn't change, she still won't be outlifting men or playing male sports, but the social pressures which women are EXTREMELY sensitive to all push her to act like a man.
If women had to do the things that men do, they would riot and commit suicide en masse by the end of a week.
>>84307068This argument ends the second selective service for women is brought up.
>>84307052Norah vincent.I respect the hell out of her.She walked in a mans shoes expecting to own those whiney men and show how much easier being a man is only to realize its worse.She ended up killing her self 10 years later.I don't respect women, she is an exception.>>84307068Read Norah Vincent's "self made man"I am not saying women wouldn't be girls at all. Their social incentives would reward male achievement style behavior and HARSHLY punish trying to rely on getting a pass for your gender or weasling out of accountability.
>>84307095this asks if the standards are neutral which means neither gender would be mocked for liking girly stuff, youre writing only from your perspective
>>84307129To an extent I am only writing from my perspective. Do you know how hard it is to picture a world where women are punished for being socially manipulative, forcused on hobbies about achievement and not given a pass for being a girl?That's why im asking what a world like that would look like.There isn't a right answerThat world doesn't exist
>>84307128it's always the same single example of no correlated events because she wrote other books after that. Meanwhile the men seeking le easy life drop down at 42% and rising
>>84306663I only have a dad. Ex navy, alcoholic. Decent guy. Did not raise me like a girl whatsoever. Buzzcuts every summer until I started bitching about it. No special treatment, no soft shit. I turned out bad. Not sure if I'm a dyke or not. I'm a failure of a man instead of a woman. If every woman was raised like this the human race would end in a generation.
>>84308083>I turned out bad.Why?It depends on the metric I suppose. You probably turned out fine by the metric we judge men - how useful you are to society, general utility and competence. You might not have turned out well according to the metric women live by (happiness).
>>84308098Men are workers, women are prizes. Neither side is expected to be happy, both are expected not to complain and to balance each other out so the cogs of society continue to turn. We're a bunch of carrots and sticks. I'm shit by either metric. Not gonna argue, just saying we have our roles, and I'm not fit for either.
One day I will be isekai'd to a reverse sexual morality world and get to be a househusband to a kind, hardworking woman who appreciates that I don't bring any bullshit to the table like the other men around me. It has to happen
>>84308122The whole point is making one side happy, what else do you think all the competition is measured by? In any case its an irrelevant question since you aren't living in OP's hypothetical. You are a woman and always will have that leverage to capitalize on, always have whether you were taught or not.
>>84308136It's not joy, it's status. But sure.
>>84308143What's the difference? Correlated 99% of the time. Are you really gonna make that kind of argument where you say something like rich people don't necessarily have it better than poor people because they don't feel success is meaningful or something like that?Carrots and sticks would imply there's some gigantic body that is benefiting from the moment, but you know no such thing exists. Its not a hamster wheel, it is extraction from one gender to another. Simple as.
>>84307025There is no such thing as pussy pass outside of getting free sex you moron. Majority of teachers and professors are women who would only give any sort of pass to young men due to aww but he is trying his best and boys beboys factor. Even on workplaces men get way more leeway. They speak up openly against their uppers, demand higher pays and then proceed to just do smoking breaks every 30 minutes and come to shift drunk or not come at all and they still get a pass on ALL of it. Meanwhile a woman gets passed over a job because she once came to it a bit gloomy and used comfy shoes instead of retarded heels. A good man, as defined by our society - doesnt drink, gamble or do drugs, goes to work, doesnt hit his kids, has some semblance of education (and yeah that literally it when it comes to social standards) - is literally the most average and unremarkable woman ever. Hence why women complain about bare minimum all the time, the bare minimum men can't meet is just what woman holds herself up to. If women could abandon all of their extensive standards for their own kin humanity would be fucking doomed because everyone would be a shitass. Which is partially true already.
>>84306879What's even crazier is how people didn't realize how fucking inorganic this shit all was. Humans are STUPID. We are EASILY MANIPULATED by public opinion. Every single time we run the community consensus experiment, even if the participants know the wrong answers are being given, they will not step out of line. We are cattle and the goyim are stupid
>>84307047I never realized how genuinely bad things were until I started working somewhere with mostly women >all the work they don't want to do gets thrown on me>They gossip non stop about each other, even caught gossip about myself >bullying each other to the point of tears >randomly deciding to not show up or leave work early with no reprecussions >female coworkers below me get preferential treatment Women have destroyed the work place, is genuinely a fucking daycare and I end up having to pick up the slack with no appreciation at all. I seriously can't stand women. The only consolation is that we got a new lesbian big boss and one of the first things she did was dress code all the dumb whores for wearing paper thin leggings everyday.
>>84306663It would be a lot lamer.The common sexual imagination will always prefer that women take a submissive role and men take a dominant one. At a fundamental level women are weaker and, if a couple ever start having kids, the woman has to wear her baby bump in public, marking her like a slave collar.
>>84308889Is anything you say backed by statistics and reality? In reality women as a whole are a sharp net tax drain on society, none of what you said holds a candle to stats nor any normal persons observed reality.
>>84306879Epstein was Republican and hated trans people, and said so himself in no uncertain terms. Pic related.Not sure why you believe a screenshot of an email some other guy wrote undermines that in any way. Even with a caption attached by some random Shitter poster.
>>84306663>picrelEgirls when their shota (underage boyfriend) steps out of line slightly
>>84306797Anti trans activism killed tomboys by starting a gender inquisition in which anyone who "looks trans" gets harassed for it based on prejudiced assumptions.
>>84308910Agreed. We should've listened to people with alternative gender ideas instead of trying to brutally censor them for not following normative assumptions.
>>84306663women could not mentally handle being treated like a man. We see it now with even a small bit of equality. Women are mentally and physically pathetic.
>84306663>Body count wouldn't matter like it doesn't with menMen's body counts matters. Women aren't interested in dating virgins. They want to convert a slayer into a loyal monogamous man.
>>84306797No. Tomboys have been and always will be a thing. Stupid retards simply got caught up in the tranny shit for a few years. Shit is bouncing back to normal
