>>84310522
Obviously left, its not even a question

>>84310522
Neither because I'm incapable of forming bonds and connection with people

>oxymoronic premise
if you werent a basement dwelling social reject, you would know that left side's qualities, family, and communication are physically incompatible with someone who has a 25+ body count.

>>84310522
This is completely unrealistic. someone with a 25+ bodycount is likely very mentally ill or simply a degenerate. Most successfully women I've met only have a few partners. You know why? because they don't need to sleep around for some feeling of validation.

>>84310571
>i spend all day on twitter and 4chan and it shows
ok

>>84310522
The virgin, without hesitation

>>84310522
If shes had 25+ partners shes completely insane. the one thats had 0 partners can potentially be fixed with the right meds

>>84310530
>Obviously left, its not even a question
But she's a used-up whore

>>84310561
Autism post

>>84310522
Neither. I've become too jaded. I don't ever want to date a woman or have kids with her. I'd only want casual sex, fwb arrangements, situationaships, etc. And I'm not attractive enough to have those, so...

>thriving
>is a whore
if you say so buddy

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ATTENTION
Op here. There was a mix-up at the bureau.
The woman on the left actually only has nine previous partners. Please update your evaluations. Thank you for your attention in this matter!

>>84310598
>used-up whore
She's a highly-experienced hottie. She'll be amazing in bed and open to so many kinky things... fun!

>>84310598
>But she's a used-up whore
Well in that case, explain why most men would choose left over right. Whether it's Chad or a Normie, whether they're Successful or Not, most would choose a woman whose pretty, well-off, and somehow adjusted over a girlfailure.

I'm starting to think incels are just drawn to girlfailures because they can relate to them and all this virginity talk is sour grapes, not actual enthusiasm for purity. Also sidenote: I think it's a unfair question (and that's probably the point), because a girl like the one on the left would have WAY more 25 bodycount, that is ridiculously low relatively for a gigastacy.

>>84310657
still the virgin fr

>>84310667
Incels are drawn to girlfailures because they feel outclassed and intimidated by a women that didnt completely fuck up her life.

>>84310690
Yeah, and I understand that, I just wish incels would be more honest. I was a 24yr old KHHV until I started dating a girl who went from girlfailure to stacy tier, and that cured pretty much all my insecurity and anxiety over my "failures". Really it's all about blooming well rather than blooming early. Nobody wants to peak in high-school, no matter what they say.

>>84310661
>>84310667
People will call you pathetic cucks here for saying that yet it is so obviously true. Worldwide and across cultures

>>84310522
Right and it isn't close. More income is worse. Shaving is a crime against nature.

Also
>partner count 25+
>values deep connection
lol. lmao even.

>>84310690
>they feel outclassed and intimidated by a women that didnt completely fuck up her life.

They're also screaming mad that Good Genes = Good Life. To a degree that a truly attractive person *can't* fuck up enough to end up alone.
That's where the intense seething comes from when a roastie cumrag lands herself a wealthy beta provider and isn't punished for living a wild and hedonistic lifestyle that is totally unavailable to the genetically unfortunate masses

>>84310522
Left to fuck around and have fun with, right to marry.

If a girl has even a single partner before you, the chance of divorce shoots up by 40% automatically

>>84310712
That's just one path. I peaked in my college years around 20, I lost my virginity at 15, and now at almost 30 I still have steady success with women, short-term and long-term. Me blooming had little to do with women overall, it was just my own growth, but having access to girls takes away the insecurity, sure.

>>84310750
>>partner count 25+
>>values deep connection
Yeah, a connection deep within her vagina, pushing against the cervix

>>84310522
I can fix the one on the right

>>84310768
>the chance of divorce shoots up by 40% automatically
Yeah but who fucking cares about divorce?
As a man it allows you to get a second wife and have more children, which is the modern version of a harem

>>84310768
But why would you marry that? I'd rather watch Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets alone at home.

>>84310780
Exactly. The one on the left doesn't even know she's broken and will get mad at you for trying to fix her. The one on the right will be grateful.

>>84310787
yay, more fatherless bastards

>>84310787
>just lose more than half your assets and take a massive hit to your income for the rest of your life
Weak bait but I replied I guess

>>84310768
>If a girl has even a single partner before you, the chance of divorce shoots up by 40% automatically
Objectively false.

>>84310787
Who wants that stress?

>>84310797
I'm just answering the case for op's pic

>>84310773
Yeah, see that makes sense, there's a huge difference peaking in College over peaking in High School. Until you're like 20, I don't feel like Life has even started. That's like only a third of your lifespan and at least half of it was spent doing whatever your guardians told you could do or whatever you could get away with. Peaking as a young man is fine, still I could never count myself out like that.

>>84310814
What's the stats then? It's a double digit number and it's been statistically confirmed

the one on the right has a soul, the left one doesn't. This is my opinion and I will die on this hill

>>84310766
>isn't punished for living a wild and hedonistic lifestyle
Here's the thing though: settling for a beta bux provider IS the punishment. You should never want to be that guy, that's basically the dream of every Jew, which makes it a living nightmare for everyone else.

>>84310829
It's also punishment for the woman in a sense, because they hate settling and condemn themselves to a loveless marriage, even resorting to cheating sometimes

>>84310768
>If a girl has even a single partner before you, the chance of divorce shoots up by 40% automatically
Normies marrying and divorcing have ruined those statistics. You can't trust normies to decide where they want to eat, why should you trust their marriage choices? It's like how people say 90% of women suck, you shouldn't even consider anything about the top 1% of women in the first place. It's a mental trap for normies.

>>84310816
>Who wants that stress?
What stress? A Chad just carries on and keeps breeding fertile females

>>84310849
Divorce invariably causes stress. If you're not marrying that's one this, but this entire conversation line was predicated on marriage

>>84310849
Even chad's wages can get garnished for alimony

>>84310835
>>84310829

Redpill reality distortion. Women are the masters of cope and subjective experiencing. I would say 95% of Stacy's who end up with beta providers at the end of their lives. Don't see them that way at all. They adjust to the situation they adjust their aesthetic preferences and literally learn to love the guy. That's why so many relationships start with the woman working to find the man attractive.. That's why so many relationships start with the woman working to find the man attractive as a standard human mating behavior. They are genetically designed to fall for the man that they feel is their provider and protector if even if he is a "beta"
Again, this is standard across time and culture. The thought that a woman needs to find you incredibly attractive and will never love you otherwise, simply not how the world works or has ever worked

>>84310865
40% isnt much. The divorce rate with the right woman is much higher than 40% because of the multiple issues and financial insecurity is the number one reason for divorce anyway, so
Left one: 40% chance of divorce
Right one: 80% chance of divorce

>>84310846
Ok then I'll meet you halfway and say 20%? You can't tell me me normies skew it more than double

Even 20% higher odds for divorce is not accep odds for me

>>84310865
>Divorce invariably causes stress
Mine was a relief

>>84310868
Not if he doesn't have any. Divorce laws are surprisingly fair and progressive States. If the woman makes more money, she's on the hook for child support.

The divorce rape thing is extremely exaggerated. As the father, if you aren't wealthy, you hold all the cards

>>84310875
>The divorce rate with the right woman is much higher than 40%

Not statistically speaking, no it isn't. You're grading your personal estimation against statistical outcomes

>>84310882
>Mine was a relief

Then you had stress before it. The point is to avoid stress

>>84310882
>If the woman makes more money, she's on the hook for child support
No, because the court will give her full custody. It's hilarious you don't know the courts in progressive states are *more* biased against men.

>>84310885
High education and financial independence are among the strongest predictors of a stable marriage. High-functioning, high-earning women have significantly lower divorce rates than the general population.
Meanwhile the right woman is giant RED FLAG for any relational stability, especially marital.

The right woman has a MUCH HIGHER chance of divorce, probably 80-90%. There is no long-term marriage with her, she is fundamentally broken.

>>84310915
Just ignore him, he's spouting delusional nonsense

>>84310919
Funny fanfic, good thing it isn't true or realistic.

>>84310874
I think there's a simpler way to put that: >1. Women have alien standards of attractiveness.
>2. Women have weird fetishes just as much as men, some which are completely alien to most men.
>3. Women can be convinced of most anything given enough effort, time, and incentive.
Women evolved that way because they had to learn that the ugly male who can provide is simply a more attractive option than the pretty male that cannot. And the ugly man who conquers is even better than the pretty man who can provide. Adaptation turned a History of being Dominated into a submissive fetish. There's a reason that the fantasy of a pretty man who can conquer and provide is the ultimate desire for any lonely woman.

>>84310924
It's the truth, too bad you can't google to save your life.

>>84310919
>High education and financial independence

For men. A woman having a higher education and/or financial independence than her man, is one of the biggest risks for divorce

>>84310934
No, for women. You can easily find statistics about this.
Women that have their shit together marry by choice, they work on the marriage and the relationship, and contribute. Therefore, the marriage lasts.

Meanwhile, the right loser woman is a disaster and will never be able to bring the effort required for a long-term relationship. She would just be a dependent.

>>84310915
>the courts in progressive states are *more* biased against men.
wtf I believed the cuckservative SIMP meme ur tellin me those based blue state gay chads weren't actually based?

>>84310522
>body count 25
>values deep connection
What did women mean by this?

>>84310876
What I'm saying is: that's assuming you're gonna marry a top 50% percentile woman. Or say it's even top 30% or 20%, that's still just a giganormie. Aiming for women that actually matter, that are actually worth marrying, that you actually connect with? That has much less to do with their previous relationship. Not saying it doesn't matter at all! It's just not always the top concern. And you'll notice that other men from any walk of life chooses accordingly. Incels don't suddenly have some top-tier levels of standards, they're simply misinformed on what to be looking for, and they're deliberately lied to by normies and other incels. Purity is more than a checkbox on their hymen, I know that sounds like some reddit shit, but it's just so true that it's dumb.

>>84310943
There literally is not a single greater divorce-cause statistic than a woman making more money than her husband. If a woman is highly educated and earning and she still marries up then no doubt the marriage will likely last

But this is /r9k/, you automatically lose if you're looking to robots for high education or income

>>84310962
>top 50% percentile woman. Or say it's even top 30% or 20%
>that's still just a giganormie
>Aiming for women [...] that you actually connect with?
>connect with a giganormie

what the mother fuck board do you think this is?

>>84310968
Sure, the breadwinner trap, thats why we keep the 40% divorce risk with the left woman. Just lock in and be a good husband and it will work out.

But the right woman has 80-90% divorce risk, because absolute poverty and lack of education are the highest risks overall.

>College-educated women have an 80% chance of their first marriage lasting 20+ years. For women with only a high school diploma or less, that number drops below 40%.

>>84310522
Obviously I'd pick the right. But she has to let me forcefully bathe her and clean her hair and let me work on her life with her.

Winners have a past. But losers always have a future.
>>84310657
This changes nothing. Even if the left girl was a virgin, I'd still want the girl on the right. The left girl doesn't need me. The basis for the relationship would be that she takes care of me and it's humiliating and she's unsatisfied with that because I'm male, or I take care of myself and we avoid eachother, and I'm tired of that dynamic. I got enough of that from my parents.

the right woman literally "has difficulty forming lasting bonds"
its not even a question you dumb niggers, left stacy

>>84310989
>Just lock in and be a good husband

I'm going to stop replying to you because you seem incapable of realizing where you are. I suggest going to twitter or some such, you'll find yourself in good company there

>>84311006
>double-digit body count can form lasting bonds

el oh el

>>84311009
Sure. Even the biggest incel losers on earth would have a higher chance of a lasting marriage with the left one, because the left one could actually provide stability for the robots to fix themselves.
The right one is just a trauma-bond that implodes within months.

>>84310522
This is so hilariously foid-coded it's not even worth the time of day. Of course it's AI-made, of course.

>>84311006
I'm assuming it's fake news concocted by the liar OP, she looks like a sweet tomboy and maybe she has trouble forming bonds with normalfaggots

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>>84311014
i guess she can yea thats why she formed dozens already
if she chose me for marriage it must mean im the best of them all, and shes not just a whore for my money

>>84311030
You want a gf/wife who has lasting bonds with 25 exes?

>>84310987
Well first, I think your misreading what I'm saying, a woman you can actually connect with is rare and that's not gonna be a normie (though compared to an incel, ALL women are social butterflies). Second, I think it's a mental trap that people get confused about, they think their low tier and so they can only hope to date slightly above that tier. Not only is that wrong, that's literally Indian Caste thinking. Example: Incels are constantly saying women only date the top 20/10/5/1% of men. Just by not being desperate, willing to learn to be better at dating, and not giving up, you automatically are a top tier man of whatever percentile you want. That mindset is rare, but anyone can achieve that by trying sincerely. So conversely, you should only be picking the top tier level of women to date, someone you actually like, not someone who you think you can settle for.

At the very least, by shooting for the stars, you'll end up with something better than you expected.

>>84311037
ye? i had like 15 exes, had bonds with them doesnt mean im still thinking about them or care about them in that way. are you homosexual or something
right one cant even bond at all lmao

>>84311044
>a woman you (implied /r9k/ user) can actually connect with

Will never be a normie, get it through your skull

>>84311052
whoor

>>84311052
You just contradicted your own point. Either she can form *lasting bonds*, in which case she still actively maintains a bond with 25 exes, so she does still think about them and care about them. Or she doesn't in which case she can't form lasting bonds. They are mutually exclusive

>>84311064
I literally said that a top tier woman wouldn't be a normie. They'd be a stacy be definition.
>But incels and stacies can never get along
Jewish propaganda.

>>84310561
>>84310571
This. My older sister is a blonde stacy with a successful career she had one boyfriend in high school and then one boyfriend in college which she married and has two kids with. Normal enough well adjusted people usually have a body count of 2-3 by 30. Body counts in the double digits the person has serious issues and terrible life choices. No bitch with 25+ bodies under her belt is sane. You Zoomers don't understand that because you don't leave your room and get real life experience.

>>84311082
Have we come full circle then? Stacies and incels are viable pairings now?

lol

>>84310920
>Just ignore him, he's spouting delusional nonsense
I was entitled to half a million dollars after my divorce and I let her keep it and took 30k. She made most of it so I let her have it.
Not everyone is evil and a mediated divorce is the thing intelligent people get. No courts no bullshit

>>84310522
>reproduce
Left, then leave as soon as she's confirmed pregnant. Staying around women too long is asking for trouble. The consequences of child support and social shaming are far less than being in a relationship, let alone marriage, with one. This is true for both women depicted in OP. Left is only better, maybe, at being a supportive parent, not that bastards ever turn out great. But the goal is to reproduce, not be a father or have a kid with a successful life. Not sure who'd be more likely to abort though.

>>84311082
A top tier woman, with 25 former relationships, has a wealth of life experience for which it is fundamentally impossible for an incel to relate to, and vise verse

>>84311105
Let me correct then, instead of saying delusional, and instead say anecdotal

>>84311098
I mean if you get with a stacy, you're not gonna be an incel for long by definition. But yes, virgin men might be late bloomers, but that doesn't mean they can bloom better than people who peaked earlier. I started dating a 17yr old when I was 24yrs old and despite what normies will tell you - the relationship lasted because I was older and more experienced. It wouldn't have lasted if I was a high schooler even if I was a chad.

>>84311118
>top tier woman, with 25 former relationships
Ignore the OP post, because that's deliberately a skewed question. You're unlikely to ever meet a woman who has it all together, let alone a dateable one with only 25 past relationships. A well-off woman is rare for a reason, and usually a old widow.

>>84311118
so hookers have like the most life experience then

>>84311155
By that specific metric, yes. Marry a hooker if you want

>>84311138
>that doesn't mean they can bloom better than people who peaked earlier

You're right, they can't. Countless threads here over years have all confirmed this

>>84310522
Now we're making AI slop to try to push getting with used up whores. Sad existence you have. Just accept you're a whore and deserve a shitty man whore like you. Good men will always want a virgin to marry and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>84311182
>Countless threads here over years have all confirmed this
Which ones are you talking about??? Every ascended incel story I've seen has been neutral at worst, uplifting at best. Most incels don't make the cut and ascend, but that doesn't mean they couldn't or can't. They're simply not taught how to AND never have the support they need.

>>84310690
Because you are pathetic cucks. Why does it bother you so much that men that value themselves don't want used goods. Go be with cucks and continue being a whore. Your cuck husband will let you fuck around on him. Isn't that the life you want? So leave good men alone and go be with your kind. You're not gonna pysop anyone into wanting to marry whores.

>>84310522
The woman on the left doesnt exist. 25 plus partners she would be a total nutcase.

>>84311245
The countless threads, by both incels and ascended incels, who lament or realize that no matter what, they cannot make up for lost time/experience and will always fundamentally be an incomplete or lesser person.

These threads are a staple of this board. Any number of ones such as

>How do I cope without having lived (loved) in high school/when I was younger/erc.

>>84310882
This nigga's divorced trying to get you to marry used up whores. What happened to this board.

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>>84311270
>they cannot make up for lost time/experience and will always fundamentally be an incomplete or lesser person.
pls don't give me feels again senpai

>>84311297
I'm sorry. It's not me, it's this evil cunt trying to act/say that the opposite is true, so I have to bring out the guns

>>84311296
Almost no one is falling for it so...

>>84310522
the one the left i don tigve a shit about body count

>>84311025
Not even food coded. There are "men" and cucks here that throw a little hissy fit when normal men say they don't want used up whores for marriage. This enrages the "man" that married one out of fear of being alone and this makes them feel judged and question their choices. And this enrages the cuck because they're a cuck and don't like the fact they're seen as more worm than man.

>>84310522
I'm the left (by description, I'm not blonde) but my bodycount is 0. Someone created this image to humiliate incels, not to provide realism.

>>84311351
>There are "men" and cucks here

Half of them are some seething foids samefagging. Not even this thread but in general, it's been confirmed many times before

>>84311270
>How do I cope without having lived (loved) in high school/when I was younger/erc.
Yeah, but those threads are made by depressed incels, NOT ascended ones. I know from personal experience that you can learn more from a serious relationship that you're ready for, then my peers who had several relationships already but can't make one last whether they want to or not. They haven't grown or seem at all happy with their women. It's just a cycle of honeymoons and wasted time. I feel like my friends and family do or will learn from those relationships, but it's so less efficient. Worst case scenario if my LTR fails, I learned from it and I that's way better than being stagnant or gambling with random dates.

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>>84310522
>tfw no mathweasel gf

>>84311404
>those threads are made by depressed incels, NOT ascended ones

No. Wrong. Lurk more. There absolutely are plenty of those threads being made by ascended incels. If anything they're even more upset because having ascended, they actually realize from firsthand experience what they missed on/how incomplete they are.

>>84311418
This. Plebs and philistines will never understand the appeal of pinning the weasel

>>84311425
No, you should lurk more. I look at all these threads. It's always the same guy with a different variation of the same question, regardless of how many times it has been answered. They're not looking for answers or advice or anecdotes. They're looking for a good excuse they can tell themselves or others.

>>84311467
>always the same guy
>They're

Yeah, I should have followed the other anon's example and just stopped responding to you as well.

>>84310522
whichever one of the two wont cheat on me and have sex with me more frequently

>>84311566
>Pedantic point because you concede the argument.
Okay, in that case, nice reddit spacing. See, two can play that game.

>>84311418
If I had an asian stemcel gf my life would be complete.

>>84310522
>values deep connection and family/community
>25+ bodycount
Doesn't make sense, I will not answer your impossible hypothetical.

>>84311006
>the right woman literally "has difficulty forming lasting bonds"
She just needs to learn how. I can fix her. Left is permanently ruined.

>>84311362
>I'm the left (by description, I'm not hot*)