when we are honest you call us bitches and cunts, and try to harm us. Girls learn early we have to lie to protect men's egos.

>>84318626
Do you have to lie about who the father is too?
Remember what you call men early on yet men dont make up shit.
6.5/10, moderat good at cooking, is not a cheating cock gobbler.
We never said anyting else.

>>84318626
get back in the kitchen butt slut

normie women definitely mean "chad but with fake glasses"
i mean below 5'9, skinny or chubby idc, acne-ridden loser that either talks really quietly or with a stutter, autistically rants about shit all the time, plays strategy games and shit like that
unfortunately most men like that either 1) hate women, or 2) don't know how to dress and groom themselves, or 3) have severely degenerate porn addictions

>>84318615
Literally nobody likes shy nerds anon even in their own wishfulment fantasies the shy nerd becomes a sociable hero chad with a harem. Go outside and work on your social skills or quit bitching when nobody wants to hold your hand and walk you through life like a child.

>>84318615
always assume women are talking about chad as a baseline for looks

>>84318651
CHAD also hates women as much as the most hardened 'cel, yet he still gets heaps of pussy

>>84318653
>he shy nerd becomes a sociable hero chad with a harem
i don't want to be sociable because i want to genuinely talk with others, i only want to be it to get what i want from others.

>>84318661
so? i'm not going for chad. i'm going for manlet nerds that already have lowered chances of ever getting laid, and somehow they tend to still have the audacity to talk shit on women like that'll get them any closer to one.
chad gets heaps of pussy because he's objectively "more attractive". women don't care what he thinks. he's never struggled because of lookism.
nerds, despite being socially outcast, still cannot seem to wrap their heads around kindness. it's a lose-lose for them.

>>84318666
>ggrr why can't I exploit and manipulate others for my own needs without having to put in any effort or ever be socially uncomfortable!
Ya gee such a mystery why you're a lonely loser angry at women. That's like saying "I don't want to work to get money I just want to buy things!". Good luck with that retard.

>>84318672
It doesn't matter how you act. That's all cope and just world theory. Women went on tirades about """""""NICE GUYS"""""" to justify treating unattractive men like shit no matter what they do.

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>>84318615
I hate these faggots so much

>>84318668
Unpopular opinion because he's such a target for conspiracy tards now but the last time Microsoft was any good was when Bill Gates was running the show. Windows XP and the first Xbox were the last big projects after he stepped down the company became a jeet ridden shitco and literally never made a good product again.

>>84318684
nah, being kind gets you laid, it's just that most of you moids can't figure out how to treat women like people.

>>84318702
It doesn't and I got to my mid 30s before I stopped doing it. Now I go out of my way to make sure nothing I do benefits women.

>>84318681
>I don't want to work to get money I just want to buy things!
NTA but what's wrong with that? If I won the lottery I would quit my job and retire in a heartbeat.

>>84318687
They both want a fictional caricature that doesn't exist and has nothing to do with real people it's so fucking cringe. Might as well say they want to date anime characters.

When women say they like nerds they mean they like rich tech bros and doctors who went to harvard

>>84318712
you're definitely the kind of male that thinks women owe you sex just for being nice. she has to be interested in you, and that means you have to have a likable personality + desirable traits. the same kind of person who "goes out of his way to make sure nothing he does will benefit a woman" is not a nice person with good intentions, and you never were. THAT is why women will never choose you.

>>84318615
It's not that they're intentionally trying to deceive you, it's that people don't have perfect insight into what they find attractive. They may think they do, but most times it's not accurate. Especially if they compile highly specific lists of traits they're looking for in a partner. It's just not how attraction tends to work.

>>84318717
Because random good fortune it's unrealistic and not going to happen especially with social interactions which the analogy is referencing. Are you Zoomers really this socially retarded that you think you can get what you want from people without social skills and experience?

>I really wish women would be honest about their preferences
>92.1% of sexual abuse offenders are men
I detect a strong odor of bullshit

>>84318741
>Doesn't cite a source
Typical.

>>84318681
>>ggrr why can't I exploit and manipulate others for my own needs
Who said I can't do any of that? If you are intelligent and not giga autist, you can learn how to do it. It's just annoying to play the game normies enjoy naturally. not enjoyable, but have to do it for jobs

>>84318615
>Occasionally plays a video game
Can't just be any video game, it has to be some normie bro-game like Call of Duty, Madden, Grand Theft Auto, or Red Dead Redemption. Real video games give women the ick.

>>84318729
Why are you contradicting yourself? First it's "being nice will get you laid lol" and now it's "NICE GUY THINK HE DESERVE SEX LOL WOMEN OWE YOU NOTHING CHUDCEL!!!!!" Way to move the goalposts. Women deserve the beatings they get from abusechads.

>>84318615
I'm pretty sure most women don't like shy nerds unless you're extremely handsome

>>84318672
>the audacity to talk shit on women like that'll get them any closer to one.
do you want them to worship the group that has ignored them all their life when suddenly one gives them a chance? retard

>>84318615
>>84318763
"Nerdy" is really just women code for safe oofy doofy and non-threatening while having a good income. They want a guy they can make their servant bitch and jester while still providing the other qualities they're looking for. Usually after their done riding the thug nigger cock carousel.

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>>84318754
Are you genuinely suggesting that women, the biologically weaker sex, are the primary perpetrators of rape

>>84318766
so if you ever attended a Kindergarten literature class, you might comprehend that my meaning was this: women don't owe you sex for just being nice, but being nice will increase your chances. being mean to women, on purpose, definitely decreases your chances unless you're going for abuse victim roasties.

>>84318777
>the group that has ignored them all their life
women are a hivemind and report to the mothership when they see an incel to make sure he never gets sexual attention and there is nothing the incel can do in order to get laid.

>>84318803
Stats will look like that when you write the definition of sexual assault in a way that effectively makes it impossible for women to commit it.

>>84318615
>sociable
>nerd
Ok, so introverted nerds can go screw themselves. This foid just wants a man to boost her own status. It's crazy what you can learn about women from reading foid tweets

>>84318814
It means, at best, women want nice in guys they are ALREADY immediately attracted to based on genetic lottery, but you lie and present this all in prototypical just world theory. This is why they deserve abusechad.

>>84318653
>outside and work on your social skills
Noone cares about muh social skills if youre ugly
Also
>implying all of us live in place wheres theres muh spcial things to do

>>84318653
this foid here >>84318843

>>84318826
Women cannot use phallic objects to commit acts of sexual violence

>>84318885
See what I mean? You made up a definition of sexual assault that requires a phallic object, so it becomes impossible for women to commit it.

>>84318849
hmm, nah. try talking to a woman. lots of them will be unattracted to a man based on looks, but grow attracted due to his personality/attitude.
i like that you're trying, though, it's cute.

>>84318897
I was being sarcastic, fucking retard
Women can use strap-ons, or any phallic object to forcibly penetrate a victim
They just don't because they're normal and can take no for an answer

>>84318615
>I really wish women would be honest about their preferences instead of pretending to like shy nerds

That's literally all I ask. I don't care if I never touch another woman ever again. Just stop lying to us.

But they want the simps. So they'll keep stringing them along.

>>84318908
Oh, you're that troll who always yaps about "muh penetration"
Guess what retard, you don't have to be penetrated to be sexually assaulted

>>84318951
I did not say nor do I even believe that sexual assault requires penetration, nigger
That would make no fucking sense. At all.
Nor am I that "one troll," you are schizophrenic

>>84318825
why do you seriously expect them not to shit talk women? they know they are getting scraps and you expect them to not notice kek

>>84318899
>lots of them will be unattracted to a man based on looks, but grow attracted due to his personality/attitude.
Says noone ever. No women would date a man whose neither rich, famous or attractive
>>84318702
>being kind gets you laid
It does if youre attractive. Its an ick if youre ugly

>>84318825
>there is nothing the incel can do in order to get laid.
Indeed. Unless he gets massive amount of plastic surgery, takes steroids/meth and becomes milionaire

>>84318986
One time, a random man pickpocketed me. I did not immediately assume that all men are insane evil thieving Hitlerites that communicate telepathically to ensure that I never have anything nice, because that is schizophrenic behavior.
>>84318988
Attractiveness is not solely determined vy looks, hope this helps!
Kindness is never an "ick," you just scroll too much.

>>84318996
you know what hell yeah
total incel death by drug overdose, that'll show those women!

>>84318983
Your wording implied that it required penetration.

>>84319007
>Attractiveness is not solely determined vy looks
Said noone ever.
>Kindness is never an "ick,"
It is if it comes from an ugly man.
>>84319012
Thats what women want unironically. For ugly men to die somewhere far away

>>84318899
That's only true for average-looking men, not outright unattractive ones.

>>84318626
Give me one singular specific example of a man harming a woman because she was honest about her preferences. Cite multiple reliable impartial sources.

>>84318615
There's enough evidence out there than they love shy nerds.

It's men being shit thinking shy nerd means unhygienic, unpleasant to be with or with retarded opinions

>>84319020
That was you broski >>84318826

>>84319029
No. Kindness is attractive, period, end of sentence, no further addendums or exceptions. YOU are simply not as kind as you think you are.

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>foid: i like nerdy guys
>the nerdy guy:

>>84319157
>There's enough evidence out there than they love shy nerds
If shy nerd means bilionaire super model with glasses then yeah

>>84319029
>what women want unironically
is for you to be kind and to smell nice
>>84319049
you're confused. i see fucking atrocities walking around with wives all the time. there's no excuses

>>84319176
>unkempt
>poor eyesight
>single redeeming characteristic is buff body from the gym, which also signifies dedication to long term goals

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>>84319184
Your sense of attractiveness is skewed. What you think of as an atrocity is probably actually like a 6 at worst.

>>84319007
>One time
Versus half a lifetime for a man. The damage is already done.

>>84319204
nah, i go out a lot so i know what people look like, and i KNOW they're sub-5 (being generous)
no excuses. go get laid

>>84319226
>half a lifetime for a man
just be nice and stop trying to fuck on the 3rd date kek

>>84319264
>Third date
I don't even get first dates.

>>84319267
just be nice, take a shower now and then, brush your teeth, hit the gym, haircut once a month
go get em tiger

>>84319169
Not talking about myself nor do i consider myself kind or nice
>kindness in attractive men is attractive period
Fixed it for you. No woman like a kind ugly man

>>84319281
nah, not true. girls can like visually unattractive men as long as they have redeeming personalities :) you should try it

>>84319184
>for you to be kind and to smell nice
To be a 'kind' 7ft5 werewolf supermodel vampire mafia boss.
Being kind is the biggest ick for women.

>>84319290
>7ft5 werewolf supermodel vampire mafia boss
the only women who are into this are porn addict 40yo wine mommy roasties that have been divorced three times
retard

>>84319289
>can like visually unattractive men as long as they have redeeming personalities
Said noone ever. Noone cares about muh personality if youre ugly
>>84319298
Kek no litteraly most women in their twenties are like that. Hr ladies in my company litteraly read that shit in public

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>>84319289
You're lying. Unless men you find attractive just happen to have appealing personalities.

>>84319264
>3rd date.
Where do you think you are? Unless you mean court date after you have charges pressed for sitting 3 tables away at a restaurant isntad of not existing at all.

>>84319290
I hope you entertain the larper out of bordom like I do and not try to actually have a discussion.

>>84319461
I once saw a woman on Twitter claiming height doesn't matter. Did a little more digging and it turned out her husband was 6'5"
Idk if she was intentionally being dishonest or if she genuinely didn't see the irony.

>>84319510
No you see height doesnt matter just like money doesnt matter if you have it.

>>84318681
>>84318717
Women literally get handheld through life by spending the money of men despite saying that patriarchy is bad.

>>84318729
>and that means you have to have a likable personality + desirable traits.
>personality + desirable traits.
Yeah like having height, looks and moneys.

>>84319195
>>poor eyesight
pretty sure those are fake glasses.

>>84318615
The reason women's stated preferences and actual preferences are so massively different is because their stated preferences come from their conscious mind but their actual preferences come from their lizard brain.
So when they say "shy nerd," they mean "tall chad with glasses who has a few quirky but socially acceptable hobbies." They know that's what they mean, and they can't see the dissonance.

I never lied when I said I want someone like Louis Hofmann

>>84318626
The boyfriend you chose try to harm you too and yet you keep going back to them. Pick a lane, already.

>>84318615
Because they believe men are toddlers and will buy their stupid shit. Our own fault for ever taking them seriously.

>>84318702
>being kind gets you laid
it really doesn't lol, showing compassion towards others gets you absolutely nothing most of the time. People often see it as a sign of weakness and use it to take advantage of you.

>>84319351
>twenties
>hr ladies
pick one liar
>>84319461
>>84319701
why not kill yourself if you're so hopeless? women will never fuck you anyway, right?
>>84319478
>charges pressed for sitting 3 tables away
name one (1) single legitimate incident, with a link, of that happening where the male was NOT a stalker. i'll wait.
>>84319755
you live in hell then, idk. i live in a pretty normal reality where being nice makes people also be nice back to you

>>84319882
>name one (1) single legitimate incident, with a link, of that happening where the male was NOT a stalker. i'll wait.

I take "what is a hyperbole" for 50$ Alex.

>>84319882
>twenties
>hr ladies
>pick one liar
To get a job at hr you just need to be a woman and have some kind of degree, theyre all between 23 and 35 and yes they read goon books at the job and talk about it along with alot of other disgusting shit.
We also jave colleagues looking into our high net worth data base then fly out to rich men to try to get with them and take their money

>>84319882
Going back to op
>I really wish women would be honest about their preferences instead of pretending to like shy nerds
it would spare me from doing tons of useless efforts.

>>84319882
> i live in a pretty normal reality where being nice makes people also be nice back to you
Kek no you are delusional. It doesnt and being muh kind is a huge ick if youre ugly
>why not kill yourself if you're so hopeless
Not couragous enough for that. I did start a procedure to get euthanized in switzerland though. Its 10k so i cant afford it yet

>>84319913
>makes up fake scenario to get angry about women
>why don't le wamen want me :(
>>84319976
all men are pedophiles and porn addicts. this is ontologically true because the men at my office all watch ddlg porn. i am very smart.
>>84319984
>still saying "ick"
only exists on tiktok btw. real women don't say this retarded 4th grader shit like you do

>>84319980
I know right, just state you honest wants and choose a face type.

Let AI filter it and then you get your pefcet man (which propably doesnt exist) but it was never about efficiency or solving a problem, the attention whoring and the rush or rejection is what they need.

>>84318626
Sometimes I wonder how much women get off on these fan fictions they write

>>84320042
All I have is ancdotals but they happened to me and shaped my life.

Most recent one: some bitch loses one of her ear buds, I pick it up.
"Miss excuse me you seem.."
"Uh leave mea aloen I have a bf"
*my pikatchu face when its not only a meme*
Me: thats great but you lost.."
"Can somone help me" looks around to the guys who seen me pick up her shit.
So I threw that thing to her and told her to die of cancer.

>>84320042
You making shit up vs my objective life experience working at a major financial company.
>only exists on tiktok btw. real women don't say this retarded 4th grader shit like you do
Youre moving the goalposts so hard irs not even funny.
Yes it exists even if women dont call it like that. And being ugly and muh kind is a huge turnoff for women

>>84320082
you literally just made that up omg LMAO you're pathetic even in your own fantasies
>>84320085
you're lying and coping because women don't wanna fuck a mean old scrooge like you

>>84320082
>incel makes up a fantasy to get mad a women
>he can't even act like a fucking decent human being even in his own fantasy
Moids are trash.
>>84318615
Why would women bother with broke, ugly incel losers when they can have good, respectful attractive men that will spoil them and give them princess treatement?

>>84320089
>ad-hominem (probably projection)
I accept your concession
>anything that doesnt suit my delusion is a lie
Its real and you cant even cope with it.
We had a girl fly to hong kong to attempt to meet a multimilionaire and she failed

>>84320089
So why are you even here?
If you know everything and every other experience is fake you should be drowning in pussy money success and be imortal.

And where did I not act decent? Oh right these days being considerate is bad, my mistake.

>>84320102
Why did she think it would work?
I mean chink bitches are real next level cunts (the mixers wehre men have free entrance yet not one shows up and 800 aging foids are on suicide watch) but what would make her stand out compared to an 18 yo backwater farm gril that he could breed for 10 years?

>>84320102
cite any instances that prove your point i'll wait :)
>>84320113
i'm a female and i have a bf kek
>where did i not act decent
the fake part (in your OWN fantasy, lol) where you pathetically whimper "die of cancer bitch!" because a woman didnt want to talk to a stranger

>>84318615
Nah, when I say I want a nerdy guy I mean a nerdy guy.
An engineer or something, good at stuff I'm too slow to understand.
I find it really hot when a guy is smart. Bonus points if he is a yapper.
I wanna hear all about your integrals or whatever darling.

>>84320147
"Ecxuse me you droped this"
"Oh, thanks"

Well femannon (tits or gtfo) thanks for the advise never help a bitch ever to not submit her to the horror of having to talk to somone.
I am a borderline hikkikomor and neet and even I manage to stammer out a "thanks" when somone helps me.

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>>84318615
When they say they want shy nerds they mean this

>>84320201
>tits or gtfo
>borderline hikkikomori and neet
>why don't le wamen want me :(

>>84320249
So you admit its about looks and money.
FFS if you are trolling atlest keep your shit straight you allover the place.

>>84320269
you described yourself as a "hikkikomori neet" and, while i'm sure you just learned these words, it means you are inside 24/7, aka not interacting with women. so of course you can't get them, because you're not even fucking talking to them, retard
terrible bait

>>84320269
We haven't even seen your looks and we don't like you.
Just shows to me it really is about the peronality.

>>84320297
trvke 4.0

>>84320286
Still not understanding what a hyperbole is.

>>84318626
>you call us bitches and cunts
that's just an accurate description of you tho lol

>>84318615
they are honest, at least they arent intentionally lying. they genuinely believe the nonsense they spew because they dont experience the real world ever.

>>84320411
so you're a larping faggot and you expect women to want to fuck you

>>84320498
You are larping too.
So we both kill time.
But I gotta go now, movie nit with some internet randos.
Anyway be more consistant next time so your trolling is more engaging.

>>84320564
how am i larping? by calling out your retarded schizo bullshit? kek

>>84318668
>*gives you an STD from cheating on you with underage russian hookers and hides antibiotics in your cheerios

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>>84318615
I fall in conventionally attractive and sociable... and trust me all they mean is "wears glasses and seems smart"
I literally keep up with Geopolitics and videogames are my go to form of entertainment.... and women hate it cause they don't understand why I am analyzing a situation beyond what man on TV said.
They also get bored when I'm interested in history.

>>84318697
zunes were okay

>>84319280
I've been single for so long that no woman will ever want to date me. I've pretty much given up.

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>>84318615
He nailed it yea

>>84320580
I like history but moids get bored when I say I am pretty much interested in ww2

>>84318626
>not our fault we lie
How is accountability so hard for holes?

>>84318615
you dont have to be an attractive nerd you can also just be a tall twig with a big adams apple

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>>84321522
>twig

>>84321123
>but moids get bored when I say I am pretty much interested in ww2
Really? I find that quite hard to believe. Or maybe people these days just don't like history that much? I was just surprised because I thought war games have always had a sizeable dedicated following.

What do you like about ww2? I used to read a lot of intelligence documents about the Germans and translated manuals. I'm very interested in the way they fight.

>>84321527
That guy genuinely looks like he's one late dinner away from picking her up by the back of the head and smashing into the wall until she's an inch thick.
She probably couldn't be happier.

>>84321527
i get your point but he looks like a guy who drives a truck and grills, not a nerd

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>>84321123
Heh. That's a funny joke I did Nazi comming.
WW2 is pretty dry if you are looking into what provoked certain people to join or trace the funding and families that REALLY pushed the conflict or the rebuilding structure (like bretenwoods agreements)
And it gets saddles with too much ancient aliens nonsense.
But it is fascinating

>>84318626
>i HAVE to be a snake, but it's someone else's fault.

k.

>>84318626
YWNBAW you mentally ill troon faggot

>>84318626
>I chose tyrone instead of a normal guy with morals who doesnt get my pussy moist, let him beat me to a pulp and stay with him anyway
>why are men so terrible?

Women's definition of a "creep" is any non-chad man with a sex drive.

>>84320139
>Why did she think it would work
She watched some stuff on social media where women tell you about how to date rich men. Also several of my coworkers quite because they found a rich guy that could fly them around the world
>but what would make her stand out compared to an 18 yo backwater farm gril that he could breed for 10 years?
I dont think she thought that far.
Same as when you tell them there arent enough milionaires for every girl.
>>84320147
>cite any instances that prove your point i'll wait
Extremely kind acquaintances are still incels meanwhile guys who go to jail arent.

>>84320297
Nah if he was attractive youd ve slid into his in a minute hence proving our point.

>>84318626
>when we are honest
Never happened

In my experience, when they say they like nerds, what they mean are artists. Artist and nerd used to be a synonym, the only difference was that nerds weren't creating art, they were just being anal retentive over technicalities, artists tend to be like that as well. You're supposed to be obsessive over details as an artist.

>>84323301
You would see this in movies too. The ugly duckling or loser or nerd in the movie was always an artist, like She's All That. She was considered a nerd just because she was into art lmao. Back pre 2000s, you got judged and made fun of for pretty much anything you did, that's how the woke movement even became a thing.

>>84323331
She's All That pisses me off. They "fix" the girl by stripping her of everything that makes her unique and turning her into a normie.

>>84318726
>he was exactly my type when he was young and i'd still smash
Too bad for you he only liked 12 year old girls

>>84318615
>I really wish women would be honest about their preferences instead of pretending to like shy nerds
Whether they are honest or not, we non-Chads are incel either way.
Fuck apps and social media need to be banned. It created inceldom, hoeflation, and Chad-only.
People need to meet in person again.

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>>84323589
>Fuck apps and social media need to be banned
As first step at least their matchmaking algorithms should be made public and subject to real time audit by state agencies (like Doge).
Because after GamerGate and PizzaGate I am strict beliver in the Anti Hanlon's razor. Everything that can be attributed to secret malice happened because of the secret malice.