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>>84334846
i say, whats the difference!?

i would bet trannies because not only do they ruin it like normies but they also somehow weasel their way into every position of power then start oppressing/torturing everyone like some kind of e-hitler

>>84334846
id much rather have troons invade my hobbies, most are internet degenerates so at least they wouldn't pose the shit out of my interest and would actually partake in it properly

normies are worse
trannies are insane and will create infinite fanart/fantheories/fan related memes and shitposts for me to enjoy
what is supposed to be the downside of trans in your fandom

>>84334846
Trannies by a long shot.
Normies will just strip it of everything that makes it special. Trannies will do that, then actively turn what's left into a grotesque mockery, and then act like it was always a "trans-coded" hobby.

>>84334857
>>84334866
Can someone please refer me to instances of this happening? People always say troons ruined their hobby/fandom. I'm not online more than a couple times a month but I usually look at Twitter posts of my interests and it's pretty normal.

>>84334846
well its a hard question. normies will degrade it into an empty shell, a mockery of what it was and they'll pretend its better. trannies will inject their schizo politics into it but many of them are basically autistic incels on hormones so they can actually contribute some good together with the bad unlike the normies, but the parts they ruin they ruin worse

>>84334846
Trannies are worse unless it's something niche because that would turn away all the types of trannies who want to turn it into a discord mog-off popularity contest.

>>84334876
Minecraft, Linux, programming, alt-tech, analog horror, SCP, Backrooms, lost media, and Nintendo just to name a few.

>>84334876
space station 13 community.
warhammer 40k community.
cant remember any others atm

>>84334881
It's not at all, I'm yet to see any hobby that normies destroyed, even here people have been crying about normalfags for more than a decade and their supposed influence is still nebulous, hard to define.

Homosexuals? You can point right now at a non negligible part of the catalog infected, and you can point exactly at a point in time when a troon discord takeover destroyed what this site once was.

>>84334846
Trannies can be useful if they have a wrangler who doesn't put up with trans shit going into the project and just gets them working on programming stuff. But if they aren't kept in check then it's a disaster. Whereas normies just gradually drag a thing into shittiness.

>>84334912
Normies are currently in the process of ruining anime. Haven't you noticed that dubs and even subs now are becoming more westernized? Not to mention how many people call themselves "anime fans" yet watch nothing but battle shonen and will call you a pedophile if you've ever watched a romance anime or an anime with sex jokes.

>>84334846
>Normies finding it, or trannies finding it?
Neither. It's not the audience that's the problem. It's when the creators sell out to corporate interests.

>>84334900
>>84334901
I guess I'm kind of confused. Can you not still participate in the hobbies? Is something like, fundamentally different about it now?

>>84334900
add in 40k and ttg in general, once the troons get in they will ruin it 100%

>>84334939
I remember a couple years ago seeing some normies call SPYxFAMILY Code White "pedophilic" because it had a poop joke. Like, if you see a poop joke and immediately assume it's sexual that says more about you than the movie.

>>84334965
yeah the trannies make a fuckton of new and ridiculous rules then aggressively punish/ban people for breaking them. space station 13 is literally unplayable now because of all the in-game rules the tranny mods made

>>84334965
>Minecraft: The game has been trending more towards the "cottagecore" genre with recent updates
>Analog horror: Starts pandering to trannies
>Nintendo: Combination of the issues with Minecraft and Analog horror
>SCP: Do I even need to explain this one?
>Backrooms: Became an SCP clone
Not to mention that people assume you're a tranny if you like any of those things.

>>84334876
Fallout, tf2, discord are places they ruined by sheer numbers

>>84334846
I mean, at least trannies don't drive up demand and make shit more expensive.

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I'm a Pokemon card collector and normies have absolutely fucking DESTROYED the hobby from a collector's perspective. It used to be so easy to find cards in stock until 2024. Now everyone is fucking scalping the cards to flip for money, it literally takes HOURS a day just to line up in stores for a chance to get packs at retail, and even most of the "collectors" now are only obsessed with the money value of the cards. It really, really sucks now, even MTG getting trannified didn't end up this bad.

>>84335397
I thought scalpers were always a thing in trading card games?

>>84334851
New Yorkers are human pigs

>>84334846
They both suck, but normies are worse
at least trannies actually care about [thing] in their own twisted way, normies are the ultimate in flighty tourism

>>84334846
trannies, most insufferable faggots on earth. they ruined BF6, fear and hunger, SS13, somehow FUCKING ARMA REFORGER. i don't want to hear how they are faggots or like men CONSTANTLY. its annoying and they sound disgusting. and they'll become extremely sweaty and ruin actual gameplay along with being retarded and annoying faggots.

at-least normies are brainless cattle, not some annoying faggot freak

>>84334876
Trannies ruined crossdressing

>>84334865
>what is supposed to be the downside of trans in your fandom
Their number 1 goal is making it as lame and gay as possible

>>84334860
t. someone who has never had a hobby/game/etc raided by troons. not what happens at all, they start gatekeeping it for other troons and policing non troons.

>>84336350
this. they are basically an infection. they take over mods and communities, ban everything they don't like and make the game perma-faggoted

>>84336328
It got worse, everything has rampant speculators now.

>>84334846
I don't talk about my hobbies online and if I do I don't take it seriously so I don't get the notion a hobby getting ruined by people you don't like entering it. Especially when it's something Japanese that never listens to the opinions of its western fanbase.

On the one hand normies bring in corruption via filthy lucre, dilution, and memeification.
On the other hand trannies turn your hobby into gay political battlefields.
Tough call. The reality is usually both at the same time or one swiftly after the other.
At least the normies fuck off and a few based may stick around to appreciate the art.

trannies. i'm just kinda giving up on engaging with anything that has to do with "communities" at this point. yeah, it'll sound so good in theory, but every time it'll actually just be a cancerous mess of trannies and pedophiles. post-2010, the idea of community is just dead. dead of woke. if you're not a tranny you have no choice but to totally self-isolate in your hobbies.

>>84334846
Former, trans are already in literally every "nerdy" (read: autistic) space anyway by the fact that you need to be autistic to be trans. They're a small minority and you can usually just ignore them if it bothers you. Once normies properly get ahold of something, it's over. All the magic of it is shredded, niche fan communities are completely hollowed out, and you have nowhere else to retreat to.

>>84334846
Well that's a hard one given they both poison the series, effecting future plots if it's a franchise. Either casualizing the series or adding faggotry. Or the devs don't need the direct influence, sometimes they'll cater to either group by doing those things for them. Iirc there's games like ultrakill with a heavy tranny fan base that led to the game getting vibrating buttplugs that sync with your gameplay as one example. Then you have the more common forced representation in other series. Also there's games like new vegas that are just permanently marked with tranny faggotry because of online discussion that the devs see and want to appeal to, and it can be argued obsidian courting that audience is why their studio is a dead end after that outer worlds 2 release that nobody bought. Normies casualizing shit probably has a longer list of games raped by it, but imo it doesn't matter which you pick because it'll just fuck whatever you like regardless so hope it gains just enough traction to survive but not catch anyone's eyes on twitter or bluesky.

If forced to pick at gunpoint it depends how gay or how casual the series gets, Bethesda games generally casualize more with each game but I can tolerate up to fallout 4, but starfield is too much for me. So probably normies.

>>84334900
Those are all so gay I'm at a loss to tell you how gay they are. Get a real hobby and not this embarrassing shit.

>>84334876
>Can someone please refer me to instances of this happening?
yeah, sure. It's called: FUCKING ALL OF IT.
All hollywood media, all video gaming, everything. Quite literally everything. But they don't stop, they want to weasel into more, and more, take over the country, the world, and turn everybody into dilating degenerate eunuchs. These trooniggers wanted to be in the fucking military too, of all places.

>>84336458
trannies are 100% better than normies despite being obnoxious. ive seen op's exact scenario play out multiple times. when normies invade your hobby you can expect the majority to be indians that fill it with even worse degeneracy than trannies could collectively muster.

indians are becoming a growing problem online day by day and im forced to side with trannies who usually oppose the illiterate sloppification that indians bring every time.

>>84336924
also trannies are far more tolerable than women. it makes sense to despise trannies 3 years ago but now theyre becoming the lesser evil compared to indians, jews, and women. the only inherent issue with trannies is that they think theyre a biological women, they can otherwise be good looking or right wing. the other groups have a variety of issues

>>84336924
>>84336934
>trannie propaganda
>tranny discord in shambles
>runs damage control
chill the fuck out. I don't want any of you in my hobbies and straight male spaces anyway. You can form club with indians and fight each other all you want. I will never accept troonsterinos.

>>84336942
>straight male
i cant think of any straight male hobbies that arent diseased by attention-seeking cunts, genuinely name fucking one.
trannies are women repellant and i prefer that
secondly im not a tranny

>>84336964
>attention-seeking cunts
I'd assume you mean both. Pretty much every hobby and most creative outlets are not over-invaded by trannies and cunts. You just have to keep your distance, keep the barriers up, and not participate in "clubs" or use "discapp" or whatever the fuck. Most anything and everything can be enjoyed just fine in a small group. Few examples:
working out
single player video games with no faggotry
smoking good (or decent) cigars (which is also expensive af)
posting on 4chan. because everybody is male here
using AI, roleplaying with AI
wrting stories or a book
drawing, painting
composing/producing music
learning
thinking

>>84336343
Kek
>>84336764
Then let them get themselves killed? What's the issue?

>>84336924
>the majority to be indians
Wait, I didn't consider that possibility I just assumed we were discussing humans.

>>84334846
>>84334851
Difference being trans people probably helped make the thing and you like to pretend otherwise.

Trannies are worse for any niche hobbies because they WILL get themselves into positions of power and start to ban opinions that they don't like.
They're the Jews of anything vaguely nerdy.

>>84334866
I've been in enough niche video game communities to know this is an outright fact.

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>>84334846
Depends on the hobby. Hobbies with centralized authority (maintaining a site, a game with a publisher, etc.) are more vulnerable to trannies. Once the fortress wall is breached, it's over quickly. Decentralized hobbies (collecting something, a universally available game, etc.) are more vulnerable to normalfags. They come in hordes and there's eventually nowhere to retreat to.

>>84334846
Disney buying space wars.

>>84337146
>Then let them get themselves killed? What's the issue?
they want to inflitrate the structure, to be high ranking, and transform the military, poisoning it with the degenerate propaganda. They're not the boots on the ground. They're not even elite special squads. More like clerks, HR, admin, all that crap.

>>84334876
Quake modding

>>84334857
It's group punishment for the bullying they received. It's literally female behavior. I can't lash out at the people who hurt me, so you are my target now

>>84336337
based Arma reforger sufferer, me love you long time GI

>>84336729
Why are you on /r9k/ if all you're gonna do is tell people to be normies?

>>84334846
If the person makes their whole identity transsexualism it's far worse for the hobby because they want to sexualize everything about it.

Normies can't take over a hobby unless the fandom was always scrub like.

>>84334876
Nothing except crossdressing like one anon said. People are just hysterical about Trannies

>>84334846
Trannies. Fucking trannies. Idk how a thing people love to say is 0.000000000001 percent of the population is in every online space trying to groom people into their mental illness and spamming their unsightly lifestyle. Normies are just normies.

>>84336924
Indians are not normies. They are literal shit. That goes for all brownies. All angry retards

>>84337792
I think trannies in the military just want tech/intel jobs (see: Chelsea Manning)
>The decision to discharge her was revoked, and she started basic training again in January 2008. After graduating in April, she moved to Fort Huachuca, Arizona, to attend Advanced Individual Training (AIT) for Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) 35F, intelligence analyst, receiving a TS/SCI security clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information).

They don't really care about the warfighter hoo-ah alpha male bullshit that you're talking about

>>84334876
i was in a crusader kings 3 GOT rp discord server. it got ran over by trannies and the whole thing because this weird political shit.

>>84339291
>They don't really care about the warfighter hoo-ah alpha male bullshit that you're talking about
the reason for the alpha male bullshit is being certain that they will survive. those who are "alpha", believe it or not, want to stay alive. They're trying to make sure that their squads will do anything to survive and save the brother beside them.

It's actually neither.
Normies are dumb but harmless to the hobby.
Trannies are usually really into it, code tools for it, make content, go hard playing.
The worst people are actually young 4channers. They're the stupidest niggers on the planet, and are extremely destructive. 8/10 of them are gonna be fine fellas with some flaws, but the 2/10 are gonna ruin a good thing for no reason other than fun or vanity.
This has been my experience in every online videogame. It's always a "straight" male nerd casual-but-not-zealous-racist from 4chan that ruins everything.

>>84339291
the way trannies behave and invade spaces and demand others to accommodate them is literally alpha male hoo-ah shit

>>84339324
Yeah it has its place in the military since it's a more primal environment but not everyone is running around with a gun, a lot of it is button pushers behind computer screens nowadays, esp. in air forces/navies

>>84339340
true. however, as I stated in another thread, all this bullshit is shittesting. It doesn't matter that you're piloting a drone, your brothers in arms must know, that you will do the best possible thing. the best you can. Discipline, skill, competence, nerves of steel, cool head matter. So they want to make sure you have all of that and more to you.
Like the Delta Force group, elite of the elite, who did the Venezuela op, imagine how highly skilled and disciplined they are to not fuck up a single smallest thing during the operation. The team works flawlessly and you can bet they're friends because they're testing each other for years of training.

>>84339338
You're such a frickin cornball my guy

>>84339291
>35F, intelligence analyst
The fuck do they actually do? Doesn't everyone look at details?

>>84339376
That's my experience. I don't know why you feel called out.

>>84339382
afaik it's like doing powerpoints/excel for an office job but with war stuff, they crunch the numbers and condense all the raw data into a readable format for everyone else to go over, filing reports, etc, the type of stuff people are using AI chatbots for now

>>84339415
Thanks. You did a perfect job explaining that.
Is there a non-shit mos that is ai proof?

>>84334846
forget niche hobbies, niche media within those hobbies you're into aren't safe
cherish that shit like it's gold