we're not emotionless robots. we had whole lives before puberty.

we CAN channel our lust-fuelled bodily emotions into the 'story' emotions females want, but it doesn't come as naturally to us.

https://youtu.be/Xc8e2niv7_s?t=1211

>>84348260
https://voca.ro/14YSVLBjZ5sO

>>84348309
Not OP but the issue with moids isn't that they aren't capable of love but that they string along women making them believe there's a possibility for love. When in reality they just wanna pump and dump or some fwb shit.

It is incredibly hard to differentiate between men who are seriously interested in getting to know you and potentially have a romantic relationship with you vs moids who trick you into thinking they're safe and well adjusted men for a fuck.

You guys don't realise this and often blame women for "choosing" chad when it's really just men wearing sheeps clothing.

>>84348348
Then close your legs for a second. Why do you need to fuck so soon? You complaining about men who just want to fuck when you don't do your homework and see if he's a good match is so retarded.

>>84348348
this only happens because women are keen on dating out of their league. Like yeah the male model looking guy obviously only doesn't want to commit to a 6/10 whore

>>84348309
Not OP but the issue with chads isn't that they aren't capable of love but that they string along women making them believe there's a possibility for love. When in reality they just wanna pump and dump or some fwb shit.

It is incredibly hard to differentiate between chads who are seriously interested in getting to know you and potentially have a romantic relationship with you vs chads who trick you into thinking they're safe and well adjusted chads for a fuck.

You guys don't realise this and often blame women for "choosing" chad when it's really just men wearing sheeps clothing.

>>84348348
https://voca.ro/16ipMPGWvQ61

>>84348373
This.
>>84348380
Moidflation is real. Even 4/10 moids are manwhores now.

>>84348373
Yeah, like I said. You guys don't understand that it's not always 100% obvious and men are essentially keeping up a mask for months. Besides that a lot of women are just naive.
It seems we agree that there indeed are men who just want to fuck but pretend to be nice but you blame it on the woman being stupid not the men being evil abusechads lol.

>>84348380
You're not even making sense

>>84348414
They just lie, and lie, and lie. Fem"cels" (read: Misandrists) will NEVER back up what they have to say with any statistics or evidence whatsoever. It is literally all vibes.

>>84348260
Why do you like to pretend you are a woman

>>84348260
Only when they are the girl

>>84348416
>but you blame it on the woman being stupid not the men being evil abusechads lol.
Yes, because there will always be evil people no matter male or female. Stop being delusional and take some responsibility over your own life.
>Besides that a lot of women are just naive.
That's your problem. Everyone should be careful when looking for someone who's supposed to be the one who has your back in the future.

>>84348396
You gotta talk faster. I don't have the attention span to listen to 2 min recordings

No, I'm aware that any guy who wants to get to know me and approaches me wants to fuck me. That isn't exactly the issue. The issue is if that's the only thing they want, aren't transparent about it but worse: pretend they have romantic intentions but actually dont.

>you're retarded
Yes. And so are many other women. Is it actually our fault for being stupid? Maybe my parents should've told me men are evil and I need to always protect myself.
But the issue with this attitude is that men will tell us we carry baggage and are offended by our dismissive attitudes and self preservation.

So yeah idk, I get that some courting is necessary because "I want to fuck you" doesn't work. I don't really have a solution to this, I'm just sharing my perspective

>>84348260
>they/them thinks gender has anything to do with everyone being lust-fueled gooners
You ever think it's the free porn? The sex-toy industry? The dating app market? The prude-shaming?

>>84348260
yes and that's why it hurts so much when a foid decides to abandon you one day

>>84348498
https://voca.ro/13ruR5ISxUJG

>>84348260
i was obsessed with my first crush and i was in love but years later, now that the fog is gone i realize she was a boring dumb roasitie and we had nothing in common. she had a great ass and she talked to me, thats it. it was just lust for her but my brain convinced me that she was perfect and we would be happy together, its scary a bit actually. it would have been a terrible pairing

>>84348260
>capable of love
other moiss sure
not me tho, i'm built different

I have only ever dated/tried to date a single woman who didn't just string me along, cheat on me, lie constantly, feign morality, feign having real interests, feign having any sort of long term goals, etc. It didn't go anywhere because "our worldviews were polar opposite" because I'm deeply cynical and negative after all I've been through. Mind you, it wasn't because I was acting like things couldn't work between us or I was self-sabotaging or anything. She literally just didn't like that I wasn't delusionally positive and thought it wouldn't work because of that.
Meanwhile I dated ONE guy and he treated me better than even my own family did, but after puberty horniness wore down I realized I actually wasn't attracted to anyone more masculine than a flamer twink. I also had a few other extremely kindhearted guys hit on me, but declines for similar reasons. One of them was an actual fucking millionaire.
Attraction to women is a genuine curse.

>>84348260
we used to be, until we saw all the shit women post on social media, and now there is not much love left because women turned it into some transaction game that we arent interested in playing, and most robots dont meet the requirements to even play it in the first place. so oh well, thank social media women for all of this

>>84348260
By moids you mean just chad, cuz you're chad sexual freak

>>84348539
Lmao. You're funny
But yeah, you're right.
I'm just upset at the fact that being naive really isn't a virtue and we don't live in an idealistic world.
It is what it is

>>84348617
https://voca.ro/1hj5ZmAZ1rWU

>>84348600
Sounds like you yourself need to get off of social media.
Social media is not an accurate representation of society neither is everyone in society influenced by social media. This is just a shit mindset lol

>>84348640
i dont use social media i only see pics and vids of it here and there. women are the ones who use it and i want no part of it. it has turned them into egotistical demons

>>84348260
Why are there so many girls on this board now? This is the designated roastie hating board.
I don't get it. It makes no sense. Why not /cgl/ or whatever instead?

>>84348632
Someone should've told me this 7 years ago lol
I'm still somewhat naive but only half as retarded as I was back then, atleast I trust myself to make good decisions now.
Thanks for the chat and the "pep talk" though lol, have a good one

>>84348663
I advice you to talk to real women, you seem inexperienced

>>84348260
>I will make the usual incel talking points except...le moid
Do women have any creativity? If you had any interest in objective reality and statistics then you could make actual sick burns like that experiment that showed 98% of men got boners looking at 12 year olds but no it's just about avoiding accountability or denying the truth of incel critique

>>84348686
this isnt 2012 anymore, social media is real life for the vast vast majority of women. the only women who havent been affected by it are the fucking amish

>>84348260
I have yet to find a woman that can return love instead of opening her legs for me. They have been conditioned to offer themselves as lust objects and then act surprised when they get treated as such. Keep blaming them retard

>>84348498
>Maybe my parents should've told me men are evil and I need to always protect myself.
Misandrist scum. What have you ever done for a romantic partner besides send them nudes?

>>84348719
Whole lot of projecting, misandrist? Really? lol.

Anon, I wish you someone who loves and cares for you the same way you do for them. Someone who burns down the walls you've built for yourself to catch you and never leaves you but instead seeks to grow into a new path with you.
It's okay, there will be a time where you do not need to be strong and constantly on the look out for the next evil person but can instead fall into the arms of the person who sees you for you. Who sees your struggles and still believes you can achieve the best version of yourself.
Until then, take care.

>>84348260
Yes. I want love. I want to love a mildly racist very loyal girl.

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>>84348348
>>84348260
>chases Chad
>gets pumped and dumped
>boo hoo men are mean
lol, smartest foid award!

>>84348260
I could say the same to you fucking dumb sluts. Why do you just want a hot body to fill your holes and gives you endless money? Is nothing sacred to you fucking bitches anymore?

yes i fall in love with any woman that speaks to me

>>84348825
>has a shit personality
>cant get laid
>blame it on looks
>boo hoo women are mean
lol, smartest moid award

>>84348807
>Whole lot of projecting
We can both have experienced the same things. Don't devalue mine.
>I wish you someone who loves and cares for you the same way you do for them.
I wish you the same and unlike me, you will actually find it in this life time. Women will never be capable of love because they never think the way a man does. A man thinks of what he can give, a woman on what she deserves, wants and can receive; Your first few posts only proved that.

>>84348876
femcels stole their entire identitiy from incels and tried to pass it off as their own, at least incels have a personality

>>84348876
>complains about being objectified
>objectifies themselves the hardest
lol, smartest foid award

>>84348814
Why not extremely racist

>>84348348
>It is incredibly hard to differentiate between chads who are seriously interested in getting to know you and potentially have a romantic relationship with you vs chads who trick you into thinking they're safe and well adjusted chads for a fuck.
We blame you rightfully for ignoring us because you "can tell" we're "creepy" but you "can't tell" that chad or chad is a choice between pump and dump vs hit and quit.
Then you'll come here to trauma dump about "all moids" and act holier-than-thou. Get over yourselves, yes it's sad you were reduced to a cum rag but it's not our problem or our fault. Meanwhile we're incels but get accused of being fucking rapists LMAO

>>84348888
>We can both have experienced the same things. Don't devalue mine.
Sorry, didn't mean to. Was more directed towards you calling me a misandrist. I think we're both pretty jaded.

>Women will never be capable of love because they never think the way a man does. A man thinks of what he can give, a woman on what she deserves, wants and can receive
I never talk about what I deserve really. If you meant this as in I think I deserve a partner who treats me well and isn't just here for the sex, you're right, but everyone deserves that.
In fact I grew up in a way where I thought everything had to be earned, I intrinsically deserve nothing and so shall expect nothing. Why do you think I've been complaining about men with non romantic intentions? How being naive actually hurt me because I was too stupid to filter against evil people?
This isn't really about me anyway, I understand you seek to cope and give yourself clarity by categorising women and men. I understand because I function in a similar way, I've been telling myself someone who cares for me in the same way I care for them doesn't exist.
If you reread the post you replied to, you'll see that what I wish for you is exactly what I want to embody for my partner.
I don't know what you've been through so I apologise for drawing so many parallels. My words don't mean much and they shouldn't I guess, since there is no use in throwing away your current mindset due to it protecting you.
It's fine, the right woman will be patient and consistent enough for you to slowly let down your guard again.

>>84348903
Fine as long as she's not annoying about it, we need to function in public and I need to be able to hold down a job. So she can't go around with a swastica or wearing klan robes.

>>84348260
>>84348348
Nobody is capable of love retard

>>84348260
foids killed most i feel for them, love, lust or longing, now im mostly annoyed when around a woman, i just want them to shut up and never talk to me directly

>>84348416
>blame it on the woman being stupid not the men being evil abusechads lol.
We blame it on both of you. You're both adults and both responsible. 9/10 times you'll go back to abusechad than "settle" with one of us. If you do "settle" you'll fantasize about abusechad or outright invite him back into you.

>>84348940
Never did I claim all moids or men here on this board. What I did say was that you don't understand.

>"can tell" we're "creepy" but you "can't tell" that chad
I'll explain it again and again. Abusive people do not straight out tell you they're abusive. While "creepy" people don't intend to roleplay as being nice.
This isn't even about chad, the people who have abused me were mostly nerds and virgins anyway. Being a loser doesn't absolve you from being an asshole.
And no, with this I did not mean: If you're a loser you're an asshole.
I feel like you lack some reading comprehension.

>>84348999
it's so strange how 'abusers' were only abusive in hindsight, they seemed so charming at the time.
yet women are always 100% certain that 'creepy guy' must be abusive, there and then.

truly boggles the mind.

>>84348999
>Never did I claim all moids
>Not OP but the issue with moids
>You guys don't realise
Fuck off.
>This isn't even about chad,
Yes it is
>nerds and virgins anyway.
chad in glasses and chad the "virgin"
>I feel like you lack some reading comprehension.
No u. Lurkmoar and read all the fembot posts on this board and then tell me we're not being called creepy rapists every day when most of us are incels.
Just like my virginity isn't your problem, your pump and dump isn't mine. Neither are your rapes or your childhood molestation. Point your finger at the culprit and i'll support you, until then i'm giving you the finger.

>>84348416
>mask for months

I can tell within 5 minutes of talking to a guy what kind of guy he is and i can also have a good estimation if he would cheat on his wife or gf. the problem for women is that you arent socialized with men like we are. guys basically always know instinctually which ones are going to be a problem but women dont, they confuse certain traits that may seem like attraction signals but to other men we can pick them apart easier and see hes a cocky faggot. i actually dont know what to tell women on how to get these insights other than pay close attention to how he treats his friends and how he treats his own family like parents and brothers. the problem with that is you need to already be involved with him to do that

>>84349012
>100% certain that 'creepy guy' must be abusive
? where did you pull this from
Sometimes you just don't vibe with someone
Maybe just stop being weird then?
>but I'm not being weird, you're calling me weird
Then clearly this person isn't for you then? Why do you want someone who thinks you're creepy or weird?

>>84349031
>Why do you want someone who thinks you're creepy or weird?
How come we're "weird & creepy" but chad never is?

>>84349031
>Maybe just stop being weird then?
...pal, we're just existing. sometimes just standing there. we will even go out of our way to e.g. cross the street, and the ABSENCE OF DOING THIS will be considered 'dangerous' or 'creepy'.

imagine this for any other group of people. if someone was telling you it was just 'vibes' at a glance, nothing to do with their actual actions.

>>84349018
You're a retard

>>84349022
This is probably very true, would explain why men get so triggered over (to you) obvious dumb choices

>>84349059
>This is probably very true, would explain why men get so triggered over (to you) obvious dumb choices

im sure women are the exact same with other women too. they know which ones are a problem immediately

>>84348962
>I think we're both pretty jaded.
We are all judged by the words of our tribe. Be it race, gender, religion, belief etc. You came swinging, I mirrored it and I'm sorry too.
>If you meant this as in I think I deserve a partner who treats me well and isn't just here for the sex, you're right, but everyone deserves that.
You would be surprised by how many people are fine with not receiving those. When I started dating, I was constantly asked for an fwb or hook-up arrangement.
>This isn't really about me
It should be. You made the post and I apologize for hijacking it, but this isn't the place to get comfort or talk about your problems as a woman. You can go on any social media platform and get support from women and simping men, while we would be ostracized, villainized, banned, doxxed and hunted down. You have to realize that you will likely only be bullied here.
>I understand you seek to cope and give yourself clarity by categorising women and men.
I don't. I have seen both sides of the struggle and believe this gender war is fabricated nonsense. You have the same amount of agency and social status as a man, if not more. The fear you have of being 'pumped and dumped' is the same fear lots of men have now too. I despise both women like OP who blame all men and the men who complain they weren't the ones doing the 'pumping and dumping'.
>there is no use in throwing away your current mindset due to it protecting you.
Astute observation. I hope you realize that the same mindset also stops you from finding that person.
>the right woman will be patient and consistent enough for you to slowly let down your guard again.
She isn't real. I could spend hours typing regarding all the women in my life who have used and abused me, but there wouldn't be a point. You could do the exact same thing about the men in yours.

>>84349059
>You're a retard
>no argument
When you want to stop playing for sympathy we can have a cordial discussion but your very first post ITT is an accusation against me. I think it will be futile anyway because you're unable to admit you're follow arousal instead of romance just like the pump & dumpers.

>Let me explain to you incels how I accidentally had sex so I can get your sympathy

>>84349055
It was an ironic question.
Stop giving a fuck what seemingly crazy women say about you and surround yourself with people who are worth your time and effort.
Not every woman is evil and chad only just like not every man is a rapist abusechad.

You do not need to please everyone the same way you dont like everyone as well.

Being an outcast is hard but it is not doomed. You just keep telling yourself this to cope.

>>84348999
>"creepy" people dont intend on playing nice
We had a whole fucking trend of saying dudes calling themselves nice guys are being total creeps.
Be consistent with the antagonist you're trying to play, c'mon man.

>>84349101
i'm saying i've done it both ways though. passively existed and actively done the 'safe' thing (the type of people pleasing you're talking about). i was content to do this, similar to the anons talking about 'masking'.

we're being told it's a lose-lose. 'women can JUST TELL'! doesn't matter if you're harmless: women can JUST TELL you're a sinister creep.

me not giving a fuck isn't good enough. i'd love to be invisible too, trust me, but that's not possible. i have to exist and buy groceries and things.

i'm grateful if a woman is making a sincere attempt to understand, but i feel like they rarely listen or it's just trolling at this point.

>>84349022
My mom dated a lot of abusive guys and it made this shit so much worse. I've been in groups where every guy gets called out as being "creepy" or whatever other vague buzzword while the women doing the calling out actively fawned over actual pedophiles and rapists and whatever else. It wasn't even based on attractiveness of the guys, it was completely arbitrary "vibes" shit that likely actually just came down to the fact the ones they'd defend would call them shit like 'rapemeat'.
Every study shows positive correlation between being a blight on the human race and being sexually successful. Every study shows that being a genuine 'nice guy' has negative correlation with your ability to get relationships, let alone sex.
The most important one to me is a study that found women have a much weaker grasp on the concept of justice, feeling less upset by people behaving out of cruelty and selfishness, and even feeling bad for people who do act that way getting punished. How much of this is socially conditioned and how much of it is some byproduct of biology, I couldn't say, but I would never want to date a woman who feels bad for amoral psychopaths - but the 'data' points to that being the vast majority of them.

>>84349074
I don't have much to add to that.
I pretty much agree with all your points
Thank you for the chat, you seem like a well reflected and intelligent person.

>>84349075
I didn't add much because I concluded we would not be able to have a good discussion. I think you don't really understand what I'm saying, so yeah.

So much of retarded gender discourse comes down to women subconsciously knowing they will always have other options and men becoming more and more aware, and thus more fatalistic, about the fact they don't. Every aspect of social life showcases this. Dating apps showcase it the most. It's why femcels are clowned on endlessly - so many of them still have and get boyfriends regularly even if they feel "unlovable". For women, it's a game of "maybe next time". For men, it's a game of "this is the only chance you'll ever get", and many times, when things fall apart, it isn't something they could've done anything about, and they never get a real chance to fix things, because current era dating advice is just women telling every other woman to dump a guy the moment he doesn't perfectly perform his role.

>>84349135
>I think you don't really understand what I'm saying, so yeah.
I understand perfectly and it's nothing new. Every newfoid comes here saying something similar after lurking for 5 minutes.
>you just don't understand i'll explain it
Bitch we've been beaten over our heads with it our entire lives as every one of you takes out your frustration on us. Message fucking received.
You have spidey senses when it comes to incels but you're a frog in water with chad.

>>84348260
yes but foids are only capable of lust-fueled obsession (or sometimes money/status fueled obsession) so it doesn't matter anyway

>>84349124
i think a lot of it simply comes down to how women have been basically sexually controlled since the beginning of agriculture, so 12,000 years ago. they havent had to develop the ability to choose properly in their brain, but for whatever reason their sex drive is still in some type of hunter gatherer mode where they need men with a certain level of cruelty and barbarism. they got married off by their parents and they didnt have much say in the matter

>>84349202
Every explanation for why women are the way they are boils down to "they're simply too retarded to know better" and every time a woman tries to dunk on men it typically boils down to the same thing or "they're just too evil to know better". I don't know why I would ever want to pretend the people in question don't have everything they could need to be better and are simply choosing to be retarded and evil out of laziness and entitlement.
Tangential, but a lot of women say men just want a mom they can fuck. Well, I have actively tried to be a dad some girl can fuck, because evidently a lot of them need someone to teach them how to act like a fuckin adult, and I figured it would be better than nothing. But the problem is people who act and think like retarded children, but who are legally an adult and therefor not behold to anyone else, will outright refuse to learn or improve as people, and abandon ship the moment they're expected to. And then, of course, they can give some half-asses sob story that removes how awful they were to the next guy who'll feel bad (or pretend to feel bad) and the cycle just keeps going.

>>84349135
>Thank you for the chat
Thank you. It's a shame we have to be so hostile just to get a conversation going.
>you seem like a well reflected and intelligent person.
My gold KHHV wizard card is framed and protected by a bank vault. Your luscious feminine charms are not enough to seduce me, cutie.

>>84349202
i might be nitpicking but how is that women being sexually controlled?
they're the ones being sexually selective, for the reasons you said. the arbiter/decision maker there is the woman, not the man.

>>84349275
the parents arranged marriages back then, im sure they took into consideration their sons and daughters opinions but it was mostly in the parents. women werent going around fucking every farmer chad in the tribe a couple miles away looking to marry for love

>>84348260
the love you are talking about translates to resource grantee

Youre just paranoid because youve given up your pussy for casual fun and now regret it.
When we like someone we get this obsessive lust drive for the person we are interested in. Completely natural.
Youre devoid of love and only know how to make a connection through manipulating men with your body

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>>84348260
say this while having 72 relationship by the age of 12

Bisexual, but only ever felt romantic affection for other men. So to you, yes.

Im capable of love because im a femboy femcel, but as for the average moid, they absolutely arent. I hate being attracted to moids so much, I just have to accept ill never experience an actual loving relationship.

>>84348348
>Women detecting incels on the internet vs women detecting abusers irl.jpg

I have never ever cum from a handjob but there is one girl that can do it for me and milk me to completion like its nothing.

Is this love I feel for her?

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>>84349845
Ive never even held hands with a boy or had a relationship and im like 19 lol, not every woman you meet gets with a bunch of men. I wouldnt anyways because theyre mean to me and theyre scary lol

>>84348260
lust is what nature wants us to have, we exist to spread cum and fertilize eggs
so it isn't intuitive to us
but I have believe we can come to understand it

>>84349928
>im like 19 lol,
least obvious underageb& liar. how the fuck do you retards end up on this old ass board?

you make it look easy

>>84349970
pair bonding is also natural

>I keep lusting after chads and they just string me along using me, this must be everyone's fault but my own!

Ah yes, an aspiring feminist alcoholic cat owning single mother. The laughable egocentric delusions of fault are just the black mold icing on that atrophied mass you call a brain.

>>84348260
All the men capable of love either die alone or lose the capacity for love.

>>84348260
It's not always lust, sometimes it's just instinctive possessiveness like a dog defending his turf, you're my property so I'm going to grab you and hold you without even thinking about it.

>>84348260
How could i love some woke childless 35 year old who sold her own culture to endless immigration?

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Why do foids pretend love isn't a product of sexual attraction? You don't marry your friends or burden them with the expectations of a lover.

Love due to sexual attraction is unconditional and motivates people to do cute couple things together, live together, eat and sleep together and raise a family, and you're saying this is le bad ew and ick because a nonchad moid finds you attractive.

>>84348348
Imagine not leveraging the virgin card for marriage instead use it for some highschool fling