You don't even have to have kids nowadays. Literally just clean, cook, prepare shit, be pleasant, have sex. But instead they choose retail, being a flight attendant, a receptionist, even being a maid.Are men really that awful that putting up with a man is worse than putting up with a shitty boss and shitty coworkers?
>>84359287The average man in 2026 CAN NOT AFFORD a house wife. Most men are bums.
>>84359287Being a house wife looks like shit and you just use this post as an excuse to talk to whatever deranged woman is pathetic enough to post here.
>Are men really that awful that putting up with a man is worse than putting up with a shitty boss and shitty coworkers?Yes. Anyway, gonna jerk off to Yor r34 now. See ya>>84359290This too.
>>84359290Femcels have NOTHING but unbacked assertions. You're just talking out of your ass saying "most men are bums".
>>84359290>>84359297The average man doesn't have to, obviously. There's a huge surplus of men who willingly would and women choose not to because they prefer being Walmart employees.>>84359295How does being a house wife seem shitty?
>>84359287Have you stopped to consider that women are 99% mentally completely broken and drugged out on a dozen meds that drastically alter their mental state since they turned 12? Most men are just on ritalin or whatever but every foid is on an absolute cocktail of incredibly potent drugs
>>84359287>Are men really that awfulNot really, but murder porn and booktok has poisoned their minds like sissy hypno and mommy shit has poisoned men's minds
>>84359327Its a slave that doesn't do anything but raise kids for 60 years until she gets oldWorse if she dedicates her life to raising the little bastards and the guy decides to cheat or beat her
Women don't want kids with most men, retard. Religion and arranged marriage is the only propellant and the reason there's so many subhumans walking the planet right now. Let women have a choice and they tell 95% of men to fuck off and die. I'm glad the fertility rate is dropping, thanks to female liberation and contraceptives. 95% of men are worthless garbage and women would gladly not reproduce at all than be force-married to you and bring your ugly kids to life out of necessity. Yes, women selecting for low IQ and aggressiveness is a good thing. It means keeping most men constantly enslaved or fighting. Set women free and we enter a never-ending cycle of catering to their needs and improooooooving. This is men's punishment for not letting women be selectors. It's either slow, agonizing sexless death where you have to create ever more complex technology to appease women's increasing demands for comfort, or it's a quick death in a tribal society where you don't have to slave in a job, pay tax or improooov constantly, just be strong, kill the other tribe and fuck its women. But 95% of men are so pathetic, they'd rather put 10 slave collars on their neck hoping to get a crumb of pussy. Peace and pussy for every loser is an anomaly, not the norm.
>>84359366>>84359336What part of you don't need to have kids nowadays did you not get
>>84359468Cope. First of all, sex for a woman is innately associated with pregnancy, hardwired at a biological level. This is why unattractive men have to beg for sex and be lucky to get it once a month, even with protection. EVEN WITH PROTECTION. You can't convince an unattracted woman to spread her legs for you. For a good reason. That reason is sex=pregnancy to women. Secondly, moids in a relationship will inevitably start crying about muh procreation and spreading muh seed, and see the woman's unwillingness to get knocked up as some kind of castration (it is), as if the overwhelming majority of moids are at all worthy of being allowed near a woman, let alone worthy of passing on their subhuman genes. Thirdly, you aren't fooling anyone with the whole "just b my housewifu" bait. Women understand how this is a trap that inevitably leads to abuse and sexual assault as the moid can't help but want to "spread its seed".
>>84359510Yeah go ahead and nix this whole gender relations thing can we just get sex bots already
>>84359520Nope. Not gonna happen. Women will cancel this because moids must always be kept desperate enough to work, maintain the roads, buildings and utilities, build more conveniences and comforts, and support the princess lifestyle. Without getting anything in return.
>>84359530Women sound genuinely god awful when you look at them objectively
>>84359510So around 15-20% of women are childless at 40-50 in 2024. You admit that at the very least child rearing would be delayed massively. So how exactly is working at Walmart better in a woman's 20s and 30s?>>84359530>princess lifestyle>working in retail
>>84359530Moids this moids that. Just have sex already, femcel
>>84359536Our ancestors treated them as property with no rights for a reason.
>>84359548Our ancestors are why they are like this in the first placeOur ancestors are who modern women would fuck with no questionThe women are ancestors fuck are women who might have fucked us without that rape fetish being installed in themFuck alpha malesFuck chadsFuck TyronesAnd especially fuck women
>>84359540Women vote with their pussies, chud. There will be more and more childless women in each successive generation. If it's preferable for them to be min wage slaves to some pajeet, imagine how bad the housewife option must sound to them. Housewife for whom, exactly? When foids now both out-earn and are better-educated than men their age? Some ugly subhuman who also earns less than them? The choice is obvious.
>>84359287>>84359290Most women and most men are ugly fat poor bums these days. That's the big glaring secret as to "wHy aRe So mAnY PeOpLe single and childless now?" It's because with 8 billion humans there are literally hundreds of millions of losers now. It's all left overs nobody wants to be with. Good enough stable people are married with kids living their lives. But obviously nobody in that demographic of garbage wants to admit that. It won't go back to normal percentages until most Millennials die off so the huge baby boom post WW2 is finally over as it was a abnormality. We are all just excess people from too many baby boomers and them having too many kids. Not everybody can be a winner.
>>84359287It's a lot easier and better to work than to be a housewife. It's not close at all>You don't even have to have kidsAnd guess how the breadwinner happens to pay for such a transgression lmao. I wasn't surprised at all women decided to gtfo such a horrendous deal. Most men simply aren't functioning adults.
They choose freedom an adventure over serfdom.Work is there for life regardless, there is no such thing in life as not working unless you have rich parents. It is better when your work is adequately recognized as rewarded, which is what housewives don't get.Most men are pretty awful too, but ultimately it is not about them. The way men try to argue about this theme is fucking retarded. Not to mention bosses are often pretty nice to their female drones anyways and modern recruitmemy law actually makes it extremely comfy to be a drone. Mosten have no idea, like literally they know nothing about sick leaves, vacation conditions, workplace conditions. You can sue shitton of money if you get bullied by colleagues. Men are as always engineers of their own suffering via their sheer stupidity.Work is just more profitable. What can a husband even give that a boss can't? Bosses will somete even sponsor trips to cool places for workers for team building shit and as part motivation package. Meanwhile some men will be like "you don't need travel you shallow bitch". A husband won't help a woman in her ambitions and dreams, won't be emotionally available for fluffy type of romance, won't show understanding if you are upset ("just be pleasant" eat shit bruh), most men can't even make a woman orgasm. Men can only give women money and bosses are more efficient at it.> it boggles my mindBecause you are so STUPID you cant put together 2+2. Husbands offer less benefits than a boss. Nothing personell kiddo
It's not about having ajob, it's about having sex with chad. That's what they mean when they say "independence". When women were married they couldn't have sex with chad. That's what they sought to conquer.
>>84359287You are projecting your own desires onto women, OP. I bet like a lot of guys who frequent this board, you would accept being a househusband and are imposing this desire onto women in general.
>>84359530>Women will cancel thiswomen don't really have choices and don't think either. thanks for your service though
>>84360046don't let eglinner propaganda detract from how women do as they're forced to. whether by governments, markets or individual men women don't get to pick their live's outcomes
>It boggles my mind that women would rather get paid to work and not work for freeI fixed it for you.
>>84359290>The average man in 2026 CAN NOT AFFORD a house wife. Most men are bums.Yeah but many of us can and women aren't interested anyways.>>84359336>Its a slaveDon't most women want to be slaves? Every time I see them describing their ideal man they want someone dominant.
not only that but they're too stupid to manipulate their men or use sex as positive reinforcement.
>>84359287It boggles my mind that there are findom paypigs who fall for the "provider" meme and want to enable a vagiNEET for free.
that's why I love treating wagie women like shit in really subtle ways.
>>84359287Well, for starters a lot of men are just assholes who don't treat women very well.>>84359290Gonna be honest, that's me. 25 and working some bs job for scraps. I can barely take care of just myself. I'm just left wondering if there is a woman who is successful who'll want me to be her house husband? Seems like that dynamic is so rare I should forget about it.
>>84360023What are you on? The average wagie isn't free in any sense of the word.>>84360046I would love to work if the job market actually allowed me to do what I enjoy. Unfortunately right now there is only retail work, or joining the army.I get women who go to college in nursing or STEM or law who want to make money, or help people, or do some fun thinking job, but still the majority of women over 25 have no degree and are going to have to work a miserable no skill job for life. Obviously housework is far easier and more stress-free than your average retail job. Do you really think most people enjoy working?>>84360196>a lot of men are just assholes who don't treat women very wellHave you ever worked before?
sexbots scare foids
>>84359290That's because they are disposable wagies because foids and fecaloids are stealing their jobs
>>84359366That's cool and all, but feminist countries are a minority and they have open borders. 80 IQ pajeet rape goblins are reproducing in the billions because they have arranged marriages.
>>84360307>80 IQ pajeet rape goblins are reproducing in the billionsNo they're not, birth rates are plummeting worldwide even in the few shitholes where they're still high, and even in those there are about 100 trial by fire filters with high mortality rate you have to survive through before reaching reproductive age.
>>84360307Jeet TFR is already below replacement. But they have enough breeding bodies to produce 1 billion more subhumans. North Korea's is even lower also thanks to being sent k-drama and k-pop on thumb sticks via balloons. I hope the empowered foid virus spreads to 3rd world shitholes because there's too many fecaloids on the planet destroying white people countries.
>>84359287>Be housewife>Clean after disgusting moid>Cook for disgusting moid>Listen to disgusting moids emotional issues because he doesn't have deep friendships>Expected to wait on and baby disgusting moid and all his issues he hasn't worked out because he has no emotional maturity>Don't get paidMarriage is truly a guarantee that even the lowest man can have a maid.
>>84360334foids can't into thought
>>84360338You can't even string a coherent sentence together.
>>84360334I wish I could be a maid for cute rich moid...
The long nose harpy on tv said housewife bad. Waffle house waitress or office chair fart inflater is empowerfying cool girlboss and just like sex in the city. Jewish daycare is the source of my pride as a womyn and I will literally die if the tv does not approve of and validate me and so I comply unquestioningly.
>>84360204Wagies are still more free than housewives. Wagies get social benefits to help them in the of need and can leave a bad workplace any moment, given that they save up at least a little (have >2braincells) . Also retail is not stressful, you are just a baby. What is actually stressful is living at your workplace where you are being evaluated 24/7 with not even your body or sleep belonging to you - is what housewives live.
>>84360347This level of newfaggotry is intense lmao
>>84359290This. Start small and build yourself up.
>>84359287>You don't even have to have kids nowadays.no man wants a housewife who doesn't bear children, even if there was it would be extremely rarewith that out of the way let's move to the obvious>complete control and lack of personal agencyIs what you allow a moid over yourself when you become a "housewife", men aren't exactly known to respect women's bounds even in a regular context, that makes it ten folds worse, this recurring argument in itself of "why aren't women housewives?" "why can't I decide for them" is enough proof on its own. mostly only masochists are voluntarily housewives in this day and age, and no it's completely different from being a "househusband", different stakes and inherently different circumstances that men won't know of which is why they love running their mouths about how much they would have loved being housewives.It's also a humiliation ritual because more often than not the husband is looking down at his wife, which is already embedded in men but is made worse by the wife being at his mercy>finances it's an utter lie that men end up "providing" for women staying at home anything beyond their base maintenance level, especially in the long term, what happens is that the woman takes a backseat and becomes a supporting unpersonal character that doesn't require much of anything and shouldn't, otherwise she's a nagging demon.In that sense it's no different than wageslaving but without having to leave your house, which is the one appealing thing about being a housewife to people who don't want to leave their house, but a lot of those are also too asocial to be dealing with a husband.
It was only in the '80s we could even have our own bank accounts dude. Being property isn't something we want to yearn for. That said, I am a stay-at-home girlfriend right now. It's temporary and I have my own resources and bank account. My boyfriend is just helping me through a rough patch. He loves me and says he would let me stay at home indefinitely if I wanted to, but I just want a more independent life than that. My mom was a housewife and there is no shame in it. It's not really my style. I am very affectionate and nurturing but really don't like feeling fenced in. I have my clingy moments but my boyfriend and I are allowed to live our own lives. As in, I encourage him to go on trips with just his boys because I know a woman there changes the atmosphere
I like being on my own, anon. Sure, I got to work 56 hour weeks, but my job is so easy and there's mostly downtime.
>>84362050Oh I was mistaken it was the equal credit opportunity act of 1974 that allowed women to have bank accounts and a line of credit without a male cosigner
>>84359530Women are fucking retarded, there will be an infight between them about sex robots yes or not because most of them are scared of men or hate men, so they will want robot husbandos but will say that robowaifus are misogynistic. They will even mistreat their robohusbandos way worse than men their waifus. Also, i unironically think some third world based countries will not only legalise them but promote them, boosting their economies and the west will follow because it will be free money, and money weighs way more than whatever dumbfuck cat keeping femcel roastie opinion. Feminism kicked in just because it moved money and power, the moment something more valuable comes in, feminism will go out. Why do you think they are bitching now about men not working anymore? According to feminism, men staying at home out of sight is a good thing, but it fucks the goverments in the ass because that means the mens work is not being done so there is less money. It was never about women, and never will be, it has always been and it always will be about money. Just wait for a public brothel payed on taxpayer money to keep men happy and working, it will happen. 100%
>>84362024This right here is why so few women become housewives. Liars such as this twist, contort, and misrepresent things. These deceitful voices are everywhere repeating the same damaging lies.>housewife is bad because no freedom>housewife is bad you get abused>housewife is bad other women look down on you>housewife is bad because outdated concept and uncool>housewife bad because it's not even possibleAn orchestra of demonic voices constantly shouting at women, and women already use consensus to determine what is right and what is wrong. The arguments made are secondary or even of no importance. To the women deceived, they are not capable of assessing an argument on its own merits. They just recognize it's one or two people saying one thing and legion of voices saying something different. They go with the group in order to fit in regardless of the harm and costs she personally incurs from taking the maliciously bad advice.
>>84359536That's because women ARE God awful. They're emotionally driven overgrown children who only care about what they want and what they think they want. You wouldn't let a 10 year old drive a car, so why so we let women drive when they prove time after time after time that there mentally 10 year olds their entire lives
>>84362071You brought up a lot of stuff that you didn't even talk about in her post, mainly how draining and thankless it feels
>>84362071Every single woman I've known that has given up on being a retarded whore and gotten married is so much happier now. They still have to work, because you fucking dumbass holes ruined the job market (gee golly, why can't the average man afford anything, oh yeah because women totally destroyed the fucking job market with their meme jobs and "equality")Women ruin everything they touch
>>84362067>so they will want robot husbandos but will say that robowaifus are misogynisticI don't. I think it's nice for all of us to have our perfect spouse even if it's in robot form.
>>84361414so buy a dog and die alone. kevin samuels already said it all.
>>84361414I don't understand how you people think partnering with someone you love is a death sentence. The only thing I can think of is women are fucking terrible at choosing men and they know deep down they'll choose the wrong man instead of the man who was made to take care of them. Men will literally do anything you want, as long as you keep them fed, sexed up, and cared for. It's that simple but the bare minimum is impossible for women to do these days because no one wants to have the conversation about how utterly, entirely fucking useless women are now. You are fucking losers and need to be told it every day until you do better. Why would I marry a woman who literally offers nothing to my life, nothing at all. If you can't cook, clean, fuck me, or be someone to listen to me, why would I even bother. Enjoy slaving away at a job when you could have had paradise.One of my dumb fuck coworkers told me that men should be providers and that she shouldn't have to work, with her single mom dumbass. Women make wrong decisions constantly then blame men
>>84362083Her post was disingenuous, just a bunch of lies told with ulterior motive. I'm not going to validate her bullshit when the core premise used to support her "points" are entirely without merit.The way something feels is an internal matter. I'm not a guru so I can't say turn your frown upside down or whatever. The way I feel in response to noxious stimuli does affect what I consider to be noxious stimuli.I don't see how being a housewife could feel draining or thankless relative to the alternative. Perhaps disclaimers apply, there are workplaces with specific reputations, and I made efforts to verify the accuracy of such reports as part of the job hunting process. The same tenacity should be exercised by women seeking a husband. Personality detector jokes aside, if he's a multiple divorcee, has extensive criminal records, etc. you may need to scrutinize him a little more carefully than you would others during the vetting process if you find him to be a better match.A job only gives one or two interviews so the whore thing is fairly opaque until you're inside. With marriage there is a whore courtship process and many churches suggest speaking with a religious leader to assess a couples readiness and suitability for marriage and even for each other. Ideally you would know if you feel drained or feel your efforts with him are unappreciated. Communication can be an efficient way to get a better understanding of why you feel that way, and how or why he feels and behave in relation to you.I don't think non-religious people should marry because marriage is a religion thing. The dynamics are very structured. Secular fake marriages do not have this and are doomed to fail because they were built on a foundation of sand. Put another way, compatibility and mutual benefit is important to any successful relationship.
>>84362071>you don't want to be a housewife it means you are a liar lolololokek. You are a bad actor.you don't even see the irony in your words. nobody gets their pants in such a twist not wanting to do something that's supposedly "their personal choice" except it's just an illusion because men frame anything that women under the pretext of personal choice as "propaganda" and "brainwashing". The discussion "why aren't women housewives" is in itself in bad faith. I was at the center of a housewife dynamic growing up and I'd rather wageslave if nothing else.
The funniest part of these threads is there's no women in themThe guys pretending they're women need to be extra antagonizing and say "moid" every other word otherwise the thread just doesn't get replies
>>84362093I'm doubtful these women still have to work, but if she brought kids that are not his and extravagant debts, I can see why he would prefer she offset some of the added costs her presence brings to his life. He could always open wide and just take it, though that would not be very fair to him. There must be some level of mutual benefit obtained. If not she is a bad person for taking advantage of someone, but caveat emptor applies for a man as much as it does women since the legal system has thoroughly gotten its wicked tendrils intertwined in an institute government has no justifiable reason to be involved in.I wouldn't say she's really a housewife if she's working and raising an illegitimate child. Housewife is an important and difficult role, even the greatest woman would struggle and fail to maintain a job while being a housewife. Push button has simplified some things, but shopping and feeding people are every bit as or more difficult than it was in the past. Especially when you consider the food as medicine angle. >>84362125It is unfortunate when they only learn once it's too late. I agree that women should not work outside of the home. It is a bad fit for her unique skillset. Society suffers because women are doing men's jobs worse than men would, and men are doing women's jobs worse than women would. Hopefully a younger woman overheard her lamenting and will consider the alternative.>>84362155More invalid premises. You aren't even engaging in the discussion respectfully. At least give some attention to formatting. Use the shift key. It makes a huge difference in readability and makes your posts feel more sincere. Vague threats, talking about bunching panties, somehow you grew up in the center of a housewife dynamic. You're all over the place. Erratic and disorganized in thought. If you're talking about arranged marriages that is well outside of my scope of knowledge. What I'm talking about may be irrelevant to your situation.
>>84359287Im not an incel and i can say i never was it. They want to earn money AND have guys to gift them shit. Ive even encountered women who larped as feminists and claimed to want to be a housewife and shit with the exception that they just wanted to eat, sleep and doomscroll all morning while i worked and THEN i still had to cook for them and clean the house myself on top of paying the bills. Yeah, fuck empowered women. Ive always blocked the women that labelled themselves as feminists on the internet and irl, fuck that shit. Happy with my current gf tho, she helps enough with the stuff, pays for shit too, gifts me shit and is currently studying but is desperate to work. I cook and she washes the fucking dishes, thats fair enough. We have sex all the time, shes nice, lovable, what more can i ask? My past experiences with women were terrible and even tho i know theres misogynistic men who beat women, ive reached a point of believing that those women deserved it. Feminism is nothing but a whole fucking projection of female toxicity onto men. You can be the best man ever and you will still get called out. No wonder zoomers and alphas want to keep women in cages, those niggers know way better than us millenials. Women shifted the balance of society to favour themselved and give nothing in return. A man has literally nothing of interest that can make him gravitate towards a deranged feminist. Feminism has hurt women way more than men, men are still the same as always, its the women who are crying on social media about feeling lonely and miserable. Men are lonely and miserable by default but they get used to it and they just do some autistic hobby and jerk off their dicks until they fall asleep, and most of them are ok with that. As i said in another thread, whats the point of the existence of a woman if shes not giving birth? Shes weaker, shes dumber, shes emotional, the jobs with majority of women are memejobs.
>>84359287You do realize once you start looking outside your race plenty of housewife candidates pop out, right? And more than likely they'll be better homemakers than your average white girl>inb4 b-b-b-but I want le white picket fence life with a trad bavarian girlYou don't, you just like chasing after a white whale(pun intended)
>>84362239I value my people. This is considered a bad thing by many, but I still like my people. A brown wife will never be part of my people, nor can she give me true children. I can't give her true children either, and regardless of how she feels about her people, by miscegenating she is harming them. I believe this is deeply wrong. White men may seem appealing, but there's more to life than crotch tingles.
>>84362281What did I say?You just like complaining and making excuses, that's your actual hobby
>>84362294>>84362239>inb4 b-b-b-but I want le white picket fence life with a trad bavarian girlAre you Bavarian? Is the Bavarian history and culture so deeply ingrained in you that it goes back generations? No. That is why you don't value it and struggle to understand why a Bavarian man might want someone who speaks the same language, shares the same customs, and holds the same beliefs. To you it's just silly oompa music and funny pants. To them it means a lot more than that.
>women don't want to do thing>omg please do thing please do thing you're missing out on thing! thing is the best thing in the world thing is for your benefit but I will lose my mind if you don't do thing! I have humale fatigue >>84362133>Her post was disingenuous, just a bunch of lies told with ulterior motive. I'm not going to validate her bullshit when the core premise used to support her "points" are entirely without merit.You're just "countering" with what you feel yourself. Essentially there's no argument to be had.People do things because they feel like it or need to. There's no "valid" reason why I could refrain from being a housewife other than my feelings towards it and simply not wanting to be one due to whatever I perceive as a downside or net negative on my livelihood, my observations of it are just the cherry on top.>>84362204>More invalid premises.Eat a rock disrespectfully
>>84362309I'm a tiny colombian girl, married a big white lug who I adoreAnd spare me the nationalism patriotic speech, we both know it's hollow and you don't really mean it and it's just another excuse
>>84359287>Literally just clean, cook, prepare shit, be pleasant, have sexThis is also work. Work that doesn't pay, mind you
>>84362239I'm not looking for a house wife. My point is that women don't even have to partake in the most stress-inducing grueling part of our lives. If you include commuting, it can take up more time per year than sleeping 7-8 hours a night. Yet men are so fucking awful that they still choose wage slavery over them.
>>84362333>I'm not looking for a house wife>I just want to complainMy point exactly
>>84362331it's work you'd have to do if you lived alonehousekeeping is the basest of asks it's really nothing at all in exchange for not having to slave away 40 hours a week at some jobyou could do housekeeping for 10 different houses in 40 hours. so you're being asked to do 1/10th of a job.the rest is just loving your partner, that shouldn't be work.
>>84362345Ever been to 4chan before?jesus christ why are captchas so bugged
