Afghanistan had higher fertility when it was ruled by a King and women weren't dressed like trash bags.When we tried to implement democracy things fell apart. The only democracy with a fertility rate above replacement is Israel.
>taliban takes over>fertility doesnt go upwe're on the full children of men timeline
>Afghanistan had higher fertility when it was ruled by a King and women weren't dressed like trash bags.Women have been wearing burqa / chadari in Afghanistan for hundreds of years. Even under the Shah it was still the norm outside of the large cities. You show a picture from 1972 like everywhere else in the country including rural backwaters let women walk around in skirts. These are signs of western decadence, inherently antithetical to Islamic teachings and the people of the Arab world. It's not America's job to be the world police and bomb people because they see the sin in beauty.
>>84378785You google Afghanistan 1960 you find dozens of pictures like that.Today they are all dressed in trash bags. And the fertility rate plummeted.
>>84378785>You show a picture from 1972 like everywhere else in the country including rural backwaters let women walk around in skirts.Even in pictures from 1960 Afghanistan were SOME people are dressed like you expect from Afghanistan you still spot women wearing skirts or not wearing hijab.
>>84378785Bitch, here's a picture of Afghanistan Girl scouts 1950.During that time Afghanistan was ruled by a KING and they had on average 4.5 Children per woman.
>>84378797>And the fertility rate plummetedIt's almost like they've been bombed to shit constantly by various superpowers for the last 40 years. You can thank the PDPA for that. But no, it's because they don't let women wear slutty clothes in public anymore. Great analysis, moron.
>>84378810The obvious confounding variable for fertility decline isn't democracy or women's clothing, it was them being bombed for literal decades on end. Peace under the shah is the reason women were having more kids. You people are so incredulous sometimes it really is mind boggling.
>>84378825>But no, it's because they don't let women wear slutty clothes in public anymore. Great analysis, moron.But the same thing happens in every other democracy.Only one democracy worldwide has a positive fertility rate (israel)
>>84378848>comparing Afghanistan to Israel
>>84378845Aristotle 350 BC:>"Again, the evil practices of the last and worst form of democracy are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands...">"Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him"This happens in EVERY democracy and has happened since ancient times.Afghanistan was vastly better off being ruled by a King.
>>84378856It is no different outside of population centers than it was a few thousand years ago. You are cherry-picking a short period of peace That's been the norm across the entire country ever since the Russians started dropping bombs on them.>quotesWho are you applying these to? The Taliban? They aren't nearly as social as Zahir was. Shooting yourself in the foot here, anon.
>>84378889Why does EVERY democracy (except israel) have a fertility rate below replacement?
>>84378768>>taliban takes over>>fertility doesnt go upI fucking told all of you, there's no solution because women want humanity to die since they can't make it female only.
>>84378976Israel isn't a democracy.
>>84379029Ok.In that case NO Democracy - not ONE - has a fertility rate above replacement.
>>84378996That is actually true, but you sound like a schizophrenic when you try to explain that.Best to focus on statistics and ancient descriptions of democracy.
I always thought the solution was to just move all the women on the planet or whatever onto their own personal woman only continent. If they have any problems with the modern world they can fall back to their primal continent of only women and make it work?
>>84379063>but you sound like a schizophrenic when you try to explain that.I know but I don't really care. It's not like I have to live up to anyone's expectations.
>>84379075True - but it's about reaching people and changing things.
The Taliban have essentially banned contraception. It's a surprise that the reproduction rate has kept falling. Men pulling out? Muh sex strike?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Afghanistan#Contemporary_era_(1973%E2%80%93present)Anyway, it's sad how fucked Afghanistan has been since 1973. The king's dickhead cousin deposes him, then he gets killed by commies.Sadly, t*welhead fundamentalism is so harmful to their society that even communism was better for them.Of course, the West helps the Islamists beat the reds, and they backfires royally. Bin Laden and all that.Then the West supports the democratic Northern Alliance, uses 9/11 as an excuse to invade, and basically put the NA in power.After 20 years of insurgency and killed/maimed Western troops, we finally pull out and the Afghans let the Taliban take over without a shot.They get what they fucking deserve. It's fucking nuts that so many lives and billions were wasted on trying to democratise savages.
>>84379162things you can change, people you can't
>>84378762>the birthrate is low because lack of foidrights>not the consecutive 20 years of occupation, or the civil war before that, or the other consecutive 20 years occupation before thatFoids had the opportunity to fight for their rights, instead every female soldier and police officer immediately abandoned their post the moment daddy US wasn't there to back them up.
>>84379196>The Taliban have essentially banned contraception.Dang, i didn't know that.That makes it more astonishing that their fertility keeps plummeting.
I note that communist nations in Eastern Europe had falling populations, and the reds went after contaception.So bad shit seems to suppress a population. It is a shame that globalism seems to have done the same thing to the West.We need our own 1989 moment.
Afghanistan had higher fertility when more people lived in the countryside and had no idea they had some sort of king.Can you retards stop promoting this retarded idea that fertility is about female rights or riches or shit? ALL statistics show very clearly that higher urbanization%= lower fertility%. And vice versa higher rural population%= higher fertility%.Those are direct, intrinsic connections. None are spared, not africans, not indians, not afghanis. And try to use actual reason for once. Human life has only value when they need to do physical work. Mental work can be done by much less people in bigger quantities, and with computers, but you can't overcome a natural limit to how much wood can a person collect in a day. Cities do not have enough physical work nor space to justify high fertility. In a city, even your family is a competition for space and opportunity. Any city in history have always reached a critical point at which it required importing people from outside. This is what actually happened to rome. In a countryside every person is an asset. City is captivity, village is our natural habitat. Animals dont breed in captivity.
>>84379490America has done everything single thing in its power to make sure we get funneled into the cities.
>>84378996As if women under taliban are asked what they want. In this case, men want their lines to die as well. Afghanistan is not some sort of incel paradise. Men are being treated unfairly and tyrannically there too, and they lose their beloved daughter and sisters to bandits without any capacity to affect it or protect them. Why would they want to have children, when those children don't even belong to them? If you happen to have only daughters you cant even give them education so that they can help you in old age. All you can do is let them be raped and tortured forever. And no average human wants this fate for their kids.
>>84379503blah blah blah blah blah blahLine go down, line go down even faster when women feel good. Simple as. Women will kill humanity and you can't do a fucking thing about it.
>>84379490But the same thing happened in ancient democracies were they gave women power, see: >>84378856
>>84378762I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with decades of political destabilization.It must be that women dress how almost every woman there dressed for centuries
>>84379519They had a higher fertility than most of europe.Actually: they STILL have a higher fertility than europe.The fertility rate per woman of germany is 1.35The fertility rate per woman of Afghanistan is 4.5>pretty sure that it has nothing to do with decades of political destabilization.If it's stability which made their fertility high - shouldn't germany have a higher fertility rate? It's been a very stable country for decades.
>>84379519>It must be that women dress how almost every woman there dressed for centuriesNo. It must be that they had a king and are actively resisting democracy.
>>84379539No, Germany has no real stability. People are rotating between multiple part time jobs, can't afford housing or save money, while the social climate continues to change for the worst.There's also a very noticeable drop in income for the youngest generationsOf course the endless amounts of government propaganda and subsidies to keep women single is also a very big problem
>>84379555You think it's 4 times less stable than Afghanistan? Even for people on welfare?
>>84379652How the fuck did you take that from what you've just read? You're arguing with yourself at this point
>>84379694Ok germany has issues.But since when? Because the fertility of germany has been low for generations by now.And isn't germany still an economic powerhouse compared to other countries in the EU? Or at least used to be fairly recently?
>>84378762Go look up what goes on in those parts of Israel with high fertility. It's a fucking pedo death cult complete with Sharia (sorry, kosher) patrols called Shomrim. It was so bad that the Israeli government had to step in and make it so women didn't have to sit at the back of the bus.
>>84378762>The only democracy with a fertility rate above replacement is Israel.>Israel>DemocracyKid sure say the darndest things :D
>>84378762Id be curious to see a locallized breakdown of israeli birthrates. Tel Aviv is a secular degenerate party city, while jerusalem and a few other places are filled with practicing jews who believe you NEED to have 37 kids or else you WILL be dishonorable to YHWH
>>84378762Generally I'm the one who agrees American foreign policy is shit but Afghanistan was going to be shit regardless if we intervened or notAll we did was keep a dead regime on life support, the taliban was gonna win no matter what
>>84380014Maybe but i don't think it would've been like this.There's plenty of middle eastern countries which looked more European / American ere we intervened.
>>84380192>There's plenty of middle eastern countries which looked more European / American ere we intervened.Can you give me an example?Iraq, Syria and Libya most certainly did not look more western after we took care of business
this board is anti-semitic af lmao. the second world war is over, israel deserves to re-populate the earth. get over it.
>>84380208>Iraq, Syria and Libya most certainly did not look more western after we took care of businessExactly.
>>84379503They had more children while still being ruled by a king.
