Just found out that a former classmate, who was supposed to go pro in a sport, died of cancer a month ago. He litteraly got into an elite team and got cancer, two years later he died. We are like 20 year old. He was diagnosed at 17. A healthy athlete diagnosed at 17.You can really die at any moment...
Side note: this really inspired me to become religious again.
>>84401895>You can really die at any moment...Some people have all the luck
>>84401895Damn, sorry to hear that. Cancer is the ultimate reminder that life is unfair and any of us could die at any moment.>>84401898I feel like this experience should have made you a devout atheist. If a kind God exists, how could you possibly justify that he let your friend sie of cancer? If there was a kind God, he would have saved your friend. Hate to break it to you bro but there is no god, religion is just a way to cope with the horrifying reality of our own insignificance.
>>84401925god isn't supposed to care about us like we're all so damn important you dork. we're nothing on the scale of the universe. to believe that god should care whether our world is "fair" or not (and who decides what's fair anyway?) is profoundly narcissistic. you're looking for proof that would never exist if "god" really is an actual god.
>>84401925I dont think death is evil. Death is kind of the promise of life. Everything that is, has had a beginning and it will come to and end. You cant escape death. Its the promise of life. Death isnt evil, it just is.It made me want to become religious again because peace and justice and retribution cant be achieved here. Not in this world no. This world is nonsensical. No way this is it.I had a long period where I stopped practicing, but hearing these news made me want to just become religious again.
>>84401898>this universe is unfair, evil and nonsensical>the creator must be swellare you actual retarded?
>>84401984I thing >>84401942 already answered it.
>>84401984It's just cope anon. You MUST cope or else you WILL rope. Some people cope with religion, others hedonism, and yet others cope by making politics/social movements their Gods but it's all just cope. It's just so fucking grim living without a faith of any kind and realizing that it's all pointless I can't blame anyone for leaving this mental black hole
>>84401895>wait, you're telling me, people DIE ? *sobs* i thought life was cupcakes and rainbows ! *sobs some more* WAHHH i-im gonna need some time to think about this. im calling out of work for the next week. i-i-i just, need some time to process this. *sniffles*
>>84401984>>84402283you people who think god needs to be a nice guy who makes the whole world a utopia deserve to suffer in the darkness of despair. you don't get how anything works or why it works the way it does.
>>84402327Yes you dumb boomer. Nobody asked to be here.Is he a loving heavenly father or not? Stop gaslighting people into worshiping a deranged cosmic jew
>>84402365don't bother, christfags choose to be a slave to a fictional character, and are angry at you if you dare to suggest that it's a bad thing if said fictional character forces you to suffer
>>84402327If God is real then I'm going to be PISSED when i meet him for having created me. I don't think I've ever been happy and I've been abused since my very early childhood and all the way until now where I'm a social outcast retard posting on 4channel with troons and chuds instead of socializing like a normal human.Why did God choose, in his infinite wisdom, to afflict the world with my existence or to afflict my mortal soul to existence on this earth?
>>84402395Op here. I do believe that god creates evil. He is still omnipotent and merciful. Yes, it makes sense.
>>84402430no it doesn't you niggergolem
>>84402430>I'm your father>I throw you into a 12 foot deep pool full of man eating fish as a child to "test you">also there is no escape to the pool, you are guaranteed to die eventually>"lol the fish caught you and I didn't do anything to help, but I am le merciful :DD"
>>84401984People want to replace an all knowing all powerful God allowing bad things to happen with an all knowing all powerful government allowing bad things to happen
>>84402365>>84402395you imbeciles think everyone who believes in a single god is a follower of an abrahamic religion.once again: you deserve to suffer in the darkness of despair, because you do not understand how or why anything works the way it does.>>84402425god does not exist in a form in which you will ever "meet" him--living or dead. when you die "you" will vanish. "you" don't even exist. "you" are just an abstraction of the matter and energy that compose your corporeal form.>Why did God choose, in his infinite wisdom, to afflict the world with my existence or to afflict my mortal soul to existence on this earth?god didn't choose it. your parents did. you exist because of chance and choices that god simply enabled. what would be the point in controlling everything like puppets? think of the earth as one of an infinite number of terrariums sitting on a shelf for observation.
>>84402614Dafuq is the point of a God then? My main motivation for religion would be to get away from the horror of my "self" being utterly obliterated by the void when I'm dead. If you don't have that then why tf should I care about your weird ass philosophical skydaddy?
>>84402614it's funny you don't say what cult you subscribe to because you'd be immediately btfo instead of being a vagueposting faggot lol
this is what scares me. im playing the long game. being miserable and saving and investing. hopefully i will be happy in my 40s. but i could easily die soon and it will be for nothing
>>84402643>Dafuq is the point of a God then?there's not supposed to be a point to anything existing. it just does. your entire premise is derived from the premise that humans create gods instead of the other way around, so of course you don't get it.>My main motivation for religion would be to get away from the horror of my "self" being utterly obliterated by the void when I'm dead.it would be a nice bonus to learn there's an afterlife. i do not believe in one. i don't need a "motivation" to believe in god. to me, it makes more sense that some kind of god entity exists than doesn't, but naturally, its form and nature should be incomprehensible to beings with lifespans only 100 years long.>If you don't have that then why tf should I care about your weird ass philosophical skydaddy?i'm not trying to convince you to. if you don't care then don't care. i believe what i believe because it makes sense to my instincts about the nature of reality.for example, if the fine structure constant were altered by even a tiny fraction of a percent, then electron chemistry wouldn't even occur, and nuclear chemistry would be all there is, and the universe would just be stars and rocks. electrochemistry is a fundamental prerequisite for life.but i don't need the fine-tuning theory to believe in god. i just think it's interesting.
>>84402649i'm just a deist. there are tons of people who believe in one god but don't follow any specific religion. i was raised to be christian, but i don't think it makes any more sense than any other religion. that said, it does make more sense to me than islam or judaism. but if you remove all of the minor deities from buddhism then it makes sense to me as well, as do aspects of hinduism, zoroastrianism, and taoism. i've made an effort to understand the basics of all major religious thought for my personal enrichment.
>>84401895I remember distinctly both times I learned of the first two deaths of my former high school classmates- both suicides less than a year apart. I wasn't really close with either of them, but I had known one of them since we were about 4 or 5 years old. It was pretty surreal and left me feeling hollow for a little while.
>>84402727if there wasnt fine structure there wouldnt be observers to observe it either. and nonexistence isnt an option. so it cant actually be another way. its not that interesting imo. imagine a puddle marveling at how well the hole its in fits it, and then concluding it must be designed
>>84401895>tell folks my dad died in his mid-40s>"woah that's really young"why do peole think death is a thing that happens when you're old?is it really that tragic to die young?>>84401898side note: I really feel like it's better to die youngyou wouldn't have had as many sins
>>84404105Unironically I feel the same about the sin thing. I honestly wish I died as a kid, I was still innocentThe reason I was so shocked was because it was a guy I didnt know, but he was always kind. Like, incredibly kind. He had so much potential. The guy was in an elite team for fucks sake. And his life was cut short. Its crazy to think how fragile all of this is. I just cant believe that I'll live one day and die the next and that everything was for nothing.>>84403964There something about death when it's in close proximity. I mean we all know we're gonna die, but when its in close proximity its somehow this surreal experience. Like people will forget us like we didnt exist at all. We will decompose, we wont have any trace of our existence.