>>84424860
Trans rights are human rights

Trans women are women

Trans men are men

Ice cream for everyone

Is this the legendary Retard-san?

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>>84424868
Why am I legendary?

Also you should stop calling me retard-san, because I graduated in computer science and in deep learning

So I'm very smart

>>84424880
*work in

>>84424880
Retard-san is a cute name though.

>>84424880
Does it make you sad that deep learning models will probably be used to see if someone is a bio woman or not with 99% accuracy?

I can't I tried my best, which isn't very good

>>84424880
Yeah that figures
Only the most stockholm syndrome raped tranny faggot in existence would want a career in tech in the current year

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>>84424886
How is that cute?
>>84424902
Why do you think that?

>>84424910
You are a coward and a slave

>>84424923
How am I a coward?

>>84424860
>you could get a trans gf to love you
not true im ugly and they are same as biofoids cos social reward inflates ego

>>84424925
Idk im sick of tech faggots and trannies and anyone not at the top of a hierarchy is by definition some degree of coward and/or slave

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>>84424938
That's a lie, you could get a trans gf u just need to be kind
>>84424954
Is this ur cope for being a loser

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>>84424860
I went from hating you to not caring anymore because politics is worthless if you are low status. Humans are inherently hierarchical creatures wether we like it or not

>>84424978
>Is this ur cope for being a loser
I pity you if thats all you're capable of taking away from this exchange

Thinking about dominating and cumming inside a cute girl that used to be a boy is really hot to me. It's hot thinking about making them feel even more like a woman with my cock

>>84424985
Im trans, brown, autistic and poor. Being at the bottom sucks

>>84424860
i dont stand with em, but i respect their rights and hope they get what they need to live a good normal life and live who and how they truly feel, without judgement
no i would not get a trans gf, because im not attracted to transgender people,

>>84424978
>u just need to be kind
well atleast you pass in replies, that's exactly what women say too.
also it is funny to me how your kind shits on guys specifically looking for tranners due to growing disillusioned with biofoids. feels like everyone in this world is just looking to one up eachother - "ew u dont deserve me im so cool and valuable" kind of way yknow

>>84424860
i''ll write off trans rights dependent on the same rights of self expression, though theoretically trannies would be the best play since, not normie, usually tech literate ie. retard normie tiktok levels, not shit at games, usually have better / more forgiving personalities, make more money and dress more cutely, more horny, of course only applying to mtf

>>84425043
Well I met my bf and we're together because he was kind genuine soul with so much love to give

That's the truth and it's our true story

>>84424860
I stand for the right of trannies to get state sponsored suicide. All of them should use it ASAP

>>84425052
when your girlfriend boosts you in dota

>>84425068
a lot of dotalings i know ended up migrating to deadlock or league

>>84425083
i am literally booting deadlock as we speak. I just said dota because I thought it sounded funnier
my internet's slow so downloading a patch takes like 30 minutes

>>84425057
you omit him being chad and neurotypical

>>84425087
my friend keeps trying to keep roping me into that game so he has a duoqueue, cuckholding uni robs all, goodluck with your queue anon may you not get trog teammates as many such cases

>>84425043
>also it is funny to me how your kind shits on guys specifically looking for tranners due to growing disillusioned with biofoids.
nta but I really don't have any issue with that way of seeing things. a lot of trans people were pushed to the brink by how diffilcult it is to conform as a man in this society. There's a lot of things that aren't very fair to you at all. I just hope that as a substitute I could provide a relationship somewhat similar to the real thing

>>84425102
my brain works like a tf2 player's and not a dota player's. i just queue my games and see what happens lol i dont care about winning or losing.

>>84424860
>Also you could get a trans gf to love you if u wanted
Your mental illness makes you call the tiny % of people who would put up with your bullshit "chasers" effectively filtering the only men who wouldn't mind fucking your rotten axe wound lol

>>84425094
Well my bf literally could not speak to strangers before he met me and started practicing talking so...

>>84425121
>folie a faggots

>>84425121
reminds me of my egf, if we could have ever had just a chill couple of weeks maybe I could have went to meet her. maybe she will return for one call in another month when she is feeling lonely and has no other options, ask me to drive 10 hours to her place then dip for another month.

>>84425105
im retarded and have a hard time comprehending ur post
>difficult to conform as a man
>a lot of things that aren't very fair to you at all
not fair to boys or to trans girls? if former i agree, if latter - positive social experience waay offsets the negatives imo. id def transmaxx if i wasnt a thirdie
>as a substitute
that sounds really sad somehow, wish tranners moreso just accepted being their own species rather than fake foids
>>84425120
yep shitting on "chasers" is retarded and makes it all look like a social standing contest without any real care for relationships
>>84425121
shy_chad.jpg howd u meet tho? what is he /10?

>>84425121
Fuck you, now I am suddenly craving a gf/bf

Fuck my stupid chungus life

>>84424860
>Do you stand with trans rights
No but I don't care what trannies do.

>You could get a trans gf
Once a man, always a man. Growing gynecomastia does not change it

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>>84425169
We met on an r9k thread and we watched anime together and I flew to meet him at his parents house after a few months

He is my 1000000/10 because when you love someone do much that seeing them makes you happy they are worth infinity and that's what true love is

>>84425201
genuinely happy for you and your shy chad, hopefully he wont be as shy of a chad one day

>>84425169
>not fair to boys
not fair to boys. for example, a lot of trans girls will talk about having a small penis and act like it makes them less of a man. even that is hurting men. you can be a man with a small penis.
>wish tranners moreso just accepted being their own species rather than fake foids
i'd be okay with how they do it with hijras and ladyboys.
guess thats why those societies are old and ours arent

>>84425153
maybe I should message her with an accusatory tone

Why do troons always avatarfag with anime girls? You never see them just discuss things normally nor use images that actually reflect what average trannies look like

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>>84425230
Because I am a cute girl and anime girls represent me!

>>84425253
Post face then, we'll be the judge of that

>>84425259
no matter what anon looks like, that would be a mistake.

>>84425214
yea theres so much more misandry hardcoded into social interactions than just penis sizes.. its just awful. it is even fueled by other boys hoping to gain social standing from it. its actually why id never want anything to do with a biofoid as anything nice id do to her would feel like boosting the ego of someone already so very privileged. im meeting with a femboy soon for the first time but scared ive noooticed too much shit in this society already that ill just keep nooooticing forever

>>84424860
>Do you stand with trans rights
not till you get gang rape to death. after that trannies r good

>>84425282
i hope yuour date goes well anon!

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>>84425259
I can't bc theres a stalker here that here that hates me

But if u want to find my face I should look for a trans tech and anime twitter account with 60 followers :3

>>84424860
I'm not gay or porn addicted. I'm also a feminist, so I can't really get Troon love

I stand with trans rights, but only if the trans people in question are not racist or sexist. If they are, they deserve to be very violently hatecrimed by rightoids.

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>>84425401
That doesn't really make any sense
If you are a feminist, you can't hate trans people bc u must stand with trans women

>>84425410
Troons aren't women. They're scrotes putting on the skins of women to justify a victim complex or (more commonly and worse) using it to invade female spaces because they're sexpests

>>84424860
>Also you could get a trans gf to love you if u wanted...
Prolly not

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>>84425418
You are actually engaging in trans misogyny

You aren't a real feminist if you don't stand with trans women...

>>84425427
I'm a TERF, so I'm an actual Feminist sweetie.

i've seen internet cliques come and go. otherkins, Homestuck fans, 'the singularity' cultists...

it's all the same shit, really. but when people talk about 'rights' they can usually articulate what rights they mean. gays wanted the right to marry, i supported that, now gays can marry.

you want some '''aesthetic''' of a civil rights movement, but you cannot explain in concrete terms what it is you actually want. which is very ironic given the prevalence of autism in you guys.

so nah, i won't stand with trans rights. i hope you all have a fun time playing pretend on the internet, but i also hope you grow up a bit.

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>>84425437
The truth is that u have no real reason to hate trans ppl and u just did so because you liked the aesthetics of it and it's driven by no actual moral principle and there's no reason for u to hate me but u do because you are shameless and have the same impulses as a misogynist who beats his wife u just pretend u don't and that u are a good person fighting some morally righteous cause and itd probably to deflect from your own personal failings and insecurities in life! U should actually do some introspection instead of blindly spreading hate and division towards trans ppl like me who did nothing wrong ever!

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>>84424860
Yes.
We are allies.

>>84425449
>you cannot explain in concrete terms what it is you actually want.
I want to be able to change the gender marker on my social security card and passport

>>84424860
What the fuck are trans rights? Go fuck yourself in a dress in your private home no one gives a shit. You are MALE.

>>84425478
that is perfectly reasonable in my eyes. what is stopping you? where the hell do you live?

if your problem is something like "it's legally possible...but the procedure is difficult and there's a waiting list!" welcome to the problem 99% of (non-rich) adults face with something-or-other in their lives.

if you are in a country where it's not possible, then i hope you or someone can bring about the change and introduce the rights you need. but i have a feeling we're talking along the same lines as 'Western feminists complain about sexism' rather than 'Arab women want equality in law'.

>>84425478
>those two whole seconds that the border police look at my passport for every year or so just means that much to me
>yes im a neurotic faggot

>>84425531
If trans women visits a country like syria that could get them killed...

It's life or death for trans women.

>>84425449
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_States

>>84425555
Wow I got quads, nice
>>84425516
See >>84425555. The US is actually quite good on trans rights but there are some parts missing.

>>84425562
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_States
>Transgender rights in the United States vary considerably by jurisdiction
So the question still fucking remains: what are they? It's not illegal to crossdress or to believe anything. If you want to do sports, you have to be on the boys team. Other than that you are equally protected under the constitution.

>>84425529
>if you are in a country where it's not possible,
yeah its the united states.
trump signed an executive order banning it when he got elected

>>84425588
theyre also banning trans teachers from public schools and arresting people for using certain bathrooms or beating them up
thats not even counting the other rpoblems we face like human trafficking and rape

Eh. I don't see MTF tannies as women and my brain is incapable of such. I think they should be treated with compassion and dignity, but my brain flat out refuses to believe you are women. You truly cannot hide this.

>>84425259
Come, don't do that to her. You know the man jaw and adam's apple aint hidden

>>84425611
Tell me for the third fucking time, what are trans rights? Teachers should be normalfags, not neuro-divergent freaks with mental illnesses.

>>84425619
maybe we want a world where we don't want to be called nuero-divergent freaks

>>84425632
I want a world where people don't kill each other. I'm shit out of luck. Try accepting reality for once and realize respect is earned, not given.

>>84425632
>let me police your language because uhh uhh.. fascist bigot.. or something

>>84425648
respect is different from politeness
>>84425653
i mean being verbally harassed in daily life is something i dont want, yeah.

>>84425663
Politeness doesn't fucking mean anything. You're a stuck up faggot who needs his ass kicked.

>>84425787
whatever hater

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>>84424866
yippy woo hoo

>>84425663
>me me me i want this i want that
Try to police my speech in real life and ill rape the bootlicking faggot out of you

>>84425835
please dont rape me
comment not original

>>84425838
Sorry i got a little angry but you cant create legal "rights" that force other people to act a certain way around you

>>84425860
i just think trans people should be protected under the extents outlined by the civil rights act. Fair employment and right to assembly and the protection of our medical procedures. Pronouns are not a big concern when the pendulum is literally swinging in the direction of everywhere being like russia where gay and trans people are hunted down and often killed. It's getting less and less safe, not more.

>>84424860
no, trans people don't even exist

>>84425902
Good, maybe you'll shut up about us then

>>84424985
>politics is worthless if you are low status
Bahahaha sometimes I would argue with people about politics and in the middle of arguing suddenly remember there are normgroids having sex somewhere right now and I would just lose motivation about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHyPWn2RCrE

>>84425553
Nobody should be visiting Syria

>>84425010
however you can be the bottom and suck

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>>84426040
counterpoint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bw2dTY3SsQ

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>>What rights do other people have that trans people don't?

>>Why do they constantly have to manufacture enemies and problems that don't actually need fixing?

I'd stand by them a lot more if they didn't halt their path towards actually decoupling the false self - yet they tend to replace it with another pseudo-identity that constantly needs validation.

I can love, respect, date or even befriend the trans-individual - but the community can be so damn insufferable at times, to the point where I've just stopped caring all together about appealing to them or their ideology.

>>84426178
>What rights do other people have that trans people don't?

Depends on location

>>84426183

If it's genuinely localized, then why treat it as a universal issue where everyone else has to get involved? I wish the whole human rights debate was demolished already, I don't trans people need abstract moral/humanistic frameworks as pink slips for who they are and what they can demand. Genuinely I wish nothing more than for trans people to be sovereign in a way. But don't want to talk so much on here.

>>84426205
People think human rights are a limited resource.

The UK is the worst for it. Ive had people irl physically laugh in my face when i said i was suicidal after being raped.

>>84426253
>People think human rights are a limited resource.
>The UK is the worst for it. Ive had people irl physically laugh in my face when i said i was suicidal after being raped.

I can't actually relate to you on that one or empathize with anyone who has gone through that since I lack the capacity to feel what you feel.

But I get that if ''human rights" (or even basic human empathy) isn't there, you are sometimes left in a state of total, unprotected vulnerability - but look in the way that you used those words, "humanity" is a trap: the idea that people might inherently stop harming you or other trans people (which they are people) simply because of that moral obligation is what makes it so flimsy in the first place. No matter what identity you use or "I" use, it can never save you - you aren't bulletproof, you can still be subjected to the worst pain imaginable, - not saying you already do: but if you think these abstract rights are your only defense, you have no defense at all. That's not to say you stop trying though: I say build your own table in a room your abusers don't have a key to.

>>84426306
Rights are critical.

When the police knock on your door, you can say "you don't have a right to be here". Does that mean that you're imprevious to damage, no, but it governs the interaction, and then consequences emerge when the rules are broken.

So if i am abused by an employer, i can say, thata infringing on my rights. The rules have been broken and i have grounds to pursue grievance.

With no rights, the rulea governing interactions change immensely, suddenly there are no consequences for breaking the rules. Its the end game of dehumanisation

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>>84426362
>Rights are critical.
>When the police knock on your door, you can say "you don't have a right to be here". Does that mean that you're imprevious to damage, no, but it governs the interaction, and then consequences emerge when the rules are broken.
>So if i am abused by an employer, i can say, thata infringing on my rights. The rules have been broken and i have grounds to pursue grievance.
>With no rights, the rulea governing interactions change immensely, suddenly there are no consequences for breaking the rules. Its the end game of dehumanisation

That is a classic argument, and a good one too, but doesn't that mean you want Grievance: being able to complain to a higher authority after you've been wronged?

The only reason the words 'You don't have a right to be here' work is if the person behind the door has the power to enforce that boundary, or if the police choose to play along.

In my opinion, "transgender" has to become its own domain to protect trans people from these threats and have authority over their own maintenance - however, I believe people are delusional to think the rules are a substitute for actual power. Whether you have the pink slip or not, you may as well be "meat" regardless.

Either way, I will always view trans people as human beings, but they got to stop falling into traps like this - or allow themselves to be victimized while still holding trust in the customs that failed them.

R9k stands with trans rights we love trannies

>>84424880
trans GF with a CS degree..... are you cute? asking for a friend

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>>84424860
>>84424866
Trans right are just human rights, don't expect special treatment.
This image is kind of lame, but it gets my point across.
Crossdressers, femboys, tomboys, and androgynous people who accept their bio-gender will forever be infinitely more based.

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>>84424880
a girl in compsci, u pick shitty men/have bad taste in men do u

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>>84427892
>girl
verif not even bothered with

>>84424860
I'd rather have a BF. At least that's being honest.

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>>84427724
My bf thinks I'm very cute! So I must be right?
>>84427892
No he's very cute and loving and supports me even when I'm feeling bad

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>>84424860
distinxions are important

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if trans girls and chuds were paired together both groups would be happier

>>84424860
>>84424866
>Teehee look at how innocent we are
You're a bunch of borked deformed people that make it your life's mission to deform others. Every woman I've known that's supported trans bullshit has been basically insane and a cheater no matter how innocent they seemed at first.
There's something rotten about your whole movement (just like there's literally something rotten about your gash)

>>84428173
This is pretty much true but chuds won't accept it

>>84424860
I'm transmen and ciswomen exclusionary progressive

Trans rights are human rights

R9k loves tr annies

>>84428132
if trannies policed their community better, they'd be much more accepted.

the ones on the right need to learn to bully the ones on the left out of the troon game.

This thread is still going on? Welp at least /r9k/ loves talking about trans people's rights. What a progressive board

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>>84428173
False. Us chuds do not want the white race to go extinct. We especially don't want any distractions from this goal or even our own personal life goals. We don't see fulfillment in having zero kids. We view transvestitism as a further escape from the Orwellian prison we find ourselves in, one which we do not wish to make peace with. When we see a transwoman, we see a broken man. A man whose ultimatum is at the very best no contribution to society and at the very worst at the end of a rope.

>>84429658
>the ones on the right need to learn to bully the ones on the left out of the troon game.
theres about 9 that look like the ones on the left for each one that looks like the right, and even still most look somewhere in between these extremes. generally shit talking someone for being ugly will just make them exclude you from their community and insulate further into hugboxing. Nobody wants to bring other people lower because they know how bad dysphoria is and picking on hons who already have shitty lives isnt going to make things better for anyone.

Realistically, what are we supposed to do? Just bully them? Most of the egregious people are autistic and don't respond to bullying. We unironically need our psychologist daddies to call the shots for us. People that pass really badly and look gross weren't a concern for a long time because regular trans people would just assimilate into cis society and the others self segregate to avoid being shamed. No one wants to be on the hill with a big megaphone screaming "i'm a tranny stop these other trannies" when you look fine and can just have a normal life. Someone like Blair White tried that and people just degrade her constantly.

>>84429884
Allow mtf x man to get free surrogacy

>>84429894
1. why would you want to be in their "community" anyways?
2. hons should be excluded and mocked regardless

>>84429884
No excuse anymore in the modern day. Surrogates exist.
>that's expensive!!!
If you're too broke to shell out 50k you were too much of a loser to get a cis women and raise kids too

>>84429941
why would anyone want a surrogate? disgusting

I hope that every trannie dies an agonizing death ND suffer eternity in hell

>>84429992
No, you want a trans gf to cuddle you

>>84429934
>1. why would you want to be in their "community" anyways?
it's nice to have other trans friends and when you start your transition you need to talk to other trans people to get help with resources and stuff. It feels good to stick around and help people in the situation you were once in and makes the world a better place.

>>84424860
Not really. I actually find it annoying as fuck most of the time and downright creepy when you people mess with kids

>>84430095
>downright creepy when you people mess with kids

Trans kids exist, i was one

>>84430196
Hey, I was a trans kid too!

>>84428120
oh ew bf haver gross

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Hello lonely young sad man here, sure I do. As long as you guys aren't neurotypical and mean.
>>84425120
>>84425169
This is what breaks my heart. I get called incel by biological women and a chaser by trans women. I wish I could be asexual and even sociopathic.

>>84431052
How is that gross

>>84431052
>This is what breaks my heart. I get called incel by biological women and a chaser by trans women
this is literally just because there's a psyop by transbians trying to stop the cute trannies from dating men so they can have them for themselves.

I don't want the fact that I'm both bisexual and motherless to cloud my views on trans people.

>>84431348
>I don't want the fact that I'm both bisexual and motherless to cloud my views on trans people.
I think that this is a relatively common thing that happens honestly. I'm trans and my mother was very abusive to me growing up and it really messed with my view of men and women. I meet a lot of guys into trans people and all the ones that are really handsome and well adjusted usually have mommy issues or some kind or a block with cis women due to trauma or bad experiences. if you don't want kids it can potentially be a good avenue because you can get comfortable much easier because trans women understand male socialization and struggles. That being said, for every one that actually wants to try and create a functional relationship there's another one that's just straight up retarded and will waste your time.

>>84428173
Chuds dont want to be happy, they think happiness is a conspiracy

>>84429884
Judging by this rant i can tell you're an ugly autist.

What we need is the hot chuds who are not quite normies, so we can fix them then be happy and romantic together, and then you can continue doing what you're doing, then everyones happy

>>84429934
How does bullying people help? Just makes you a bad person

>>84424860
They have the exact same rights as everybody else.
What's the point of this thread?

>>84431857
he posts the same threads everyday

>>84430196
Naw, your just a creep

>>84424860
Cute trannies are more hypersexual than bio holes. They can all die in a fire for all I care, none of them would be interested in me anyway.

>>84431843
umm idiot? it's pretty obvious isn't it? can't you read?

>>84432282
You're a bad person, bullys should be shot

>>84433129
this except for troons should be

>>84431834
>hot chuds
Theres no fix for the modern world

>>84433355
Dont need to fix the world, just ourselves