The human condition is truly tragic.
>>84428490I would press the red one, less stupid fucks in this world is a good thing.
I will press both.
It's actually incomprehensible why anyone who is able to properly interpret this question would ever select blue. This is such simple game theory, red is completely optimal.
>>84428490Everybody press red and we're all fine anyways. Pressing blue is a stupid risk.
>>84428490I would like to see the distribution in gender. I bet most women pressed red and they would reply to that post telling men to press blue.
Can't tell if this is bait or are people genuinely this retarded
>>84428490This explains the covid pandemic
>>84428567I would assume women tend to pick blue since they don't think through it logically and instead focus on the way the question is presented and the words used.
>>84428490Virtue signalling in a nutshell lol.
>>84428490Type of people who vote blue>stupid people>people who think stupid people deserve to live>suicidalstype of people of press red>autist with no theory of mind (why doesn't everybody just press red?)>eugenisist who believe stupid people and people who feel empathy for stupid people should die
>>84428490I wonder how much it would change if they worded it like this: "If you press the red button you survive, if you press the blue button you only survive if more than 50% of people also chose blue."
>>84428586https://x.com/peterrhague/status/2047918641828503787
>>84428607This is a perfect example of autistic mental superiority.
>>84428594ha.ha.ha. you know nothing about women.
>>84428490fun screengrab ai slop
>>84428552The real risk is red because if red wins the world will be left with narcissists and sociopaths.
>>84428495>>84428541>>84428552>>84428608Actual proof of autists being retarded despite being so arrogant about their intelligence lol
>>84428541the question is whether you want to save retards or not
>>84428638low effort troll
>>84428638they think being selfish and disregarding the wellbeing of everyone else makes them high IQ gigachads, not realizing that literally everything worthwhile humans have ever done was built on cooperation and that they're the retarded ones for not understanding that and caring about other people.
>>84428643When your actual life is on the line everyone able to understand the question is going to press red. If you choose to be suicidal and hit blue you aren't saving anyone, you're dying with the retards.
>>84428638>>84428649>t. blue button cucks who will die
>>84428490I'm not afraid of suddenly dying so I would be a hero and press blue. It's time to gamble, bitches!
>>84428627https://x.com/waitbutwhy/status/2047710215265730755
>>84428638Kek in all seriousness its mostly just a matter of trust and risk tolerance. I don't trust those fuckers at all, why would I?
I am hitting the blue button. >Can help save a large % of people if right>Not my problem anymore if I was wrong >Most of the red button pressers are pricks and the wrong they'd make alone would suck ass anyway
>>84428635I'm so EMPATHETIC. btw does anyone else hate CHUDS, INCELS etc. and think they should be rounded up and exterminated? Those excess males. I'm so empathetic and a GOOD PERSON because I'm voting blue like in real life where I vote blue because I consumed propaganda telling me le good people vote blue and have empathy etc.:^)
>>84428703You're exactly the kind of person redCHADS are glad to have you press the blue button.
>>84428728>[schizophrenic brown nonsense]Did not, DID NOT read a word.
>>84428728The lowest of the low chud wouldn't press red. Probably an incel though, a third worlder with low impulse control.
I wonder if I can make money off of this. Just create a website where you all put in money and if you press red you get to keep your money but if you press blue you only get to keep it if >50% pressed blue.I wonder if the retards will actually just give me money for nothing.
>>84428490It's so crazy that we have people in here trying to argue for red despite seeing LITERAL PROOF in the OP image that blue wins with 56.7% of the vote and everyone survives.
>>84428638>saaaar you must care about us!nope!
>>84428490More would press the red button under pressure.
>>84428954you have to trust the majority to keep voting blue thoughever, and if someone starts heavy propaganda to vote red then you're fucked. now if everyone just keeps voting red then no problem arises
>>84428978100%. If this game had actual stakes, it would result in 15-20% of people dying (who pressed the blue button).Probably for the better, too.
It's very easy for people to say they'd press the "good person button" that risks their life instead of the "bad person button" that guarantees survival when it's a hypothetical poll that doesn't actually risk their life whatsoever. If they were making that choice in a dark room with their legs strapped to the chair and a man with a revolver aiming it at their head ready to fire immediately if they pick blue and less than 50% of people also did, something tells me it wouldn't be so easy to bring themselves to press blue.
>>84428638red is the only button that guarantees survivalmoronic NT loser
>>84428954>woah guys he said literal proof in all capsred is the ONLY BUTTON that guarantees your survival, chimp brain
>>84429037But the poll shows that everyone survives anyway because blue wins. You're basically just choosing whether to be an edge lord about it.
>>84428490Blue, if the red button people win we're going to be left with a world selected for dark triad people anyway and i wouldn't want to live in that
Red button has no downside. Everyone who presses it survives and there's no cost to press it. Blue button also has no cost to press it, but big downside. If less than 50% of people select blue then pressing blue kills you/everyone who selected blue. Blue is basically playing Russian roulette for no reason. Or does it assume that the 22 remaining hours has elapsed, button presses tallied and are accurately displayed, and the person answering the question is the final press? There's no clear indication that this is the case in the image but some in the thread are mentioning the poll results which should be irrelevant unless you specifically know a blue buttoner(s) and are thus incentivized to take the unsafe choice.
>>84428490I would choose blue. We must do everything in our power to help others in need, especially those who can't help themselves.brb the starbucks i doordashed is here
>>84428490It's a selfishness and pessimism test (and maybe autism too). Pressing red guarantees your survival, but if it happens to win a large number of people die. Pressing red is being okay with that risk, because your life comes first no matter what (selfish) and you don't trust humanity to vote blue (pessimist).Fun experiment but the true takeaway for you should be this: as the poll results show, you (and I mean YOU, robots, incels, blackpillers, etc.) should stop assuming the worst of every human you meet, because it's really just projection on your part, you think everyone is as selfish as you are (and I do believe this is classic in autists, the inability to consider the existence of different mindsets and points of view, let alone the ability to understand them). The results simply show that you're wrong, barely (many selfish people run around in society after all). Whether or not someone is a cunt like you is more or less a coin toss, which is still a whole lot better than "everyone".
>>84430167>as the poll results show, you should stop assuming the worst of every human you meetIncredibly low IQ. Imagine thinking that a poll on the internet where nothing actually happens is an accurate representation of how people would really act
>>84429037>red is the only button that guarantees survivalIt doesn't really because if red wins the world will quickly become Mad Max.
>>84430167Pressing blue is obviously wrong, it's tantamount to suicide. Either the person who pressed blue ignored instructions or they are so stupid they did not understand and effectively selected a button at random. Such a person poses a greater threat to society than benefit, so it is not worth risking your life to protect even just one such individual or worse, multiple.
>>84430268Red means everyone lives, blue means everyone who pressed blue dies. People face this test every time they walk past a bottle of bleach and resist the urge to drink it. Things are pretty bad right now of course, but we're not quite at mad max just yet.
I'm choosing red because I will survive either way.
>>84428490Well let's be realistic here, pressing red guarantees you will survive, whereas pressing blue doesn't, so selfishness props up red.- strawpoll.com/e7ZJa0oAMg3If anyone presses blue, but red wins, all the blue-pressers die, so if you adopt the attitude that anyone dying at a random moment is bad, then you should press blue to protect anyone who presses blue, be it for smart or dumb reasons. The fact that people might buy that argument means that it is a good argument. You can't expect dozens of people, let alone billions, to all vote red, and society needs to keep its people safe given randomness in their behavior. Basically pressing blue is socially optimal, it just takes the risk that you will miss out on the majority of people pressing red.It's like a proof that what is good for one person is sometimes not what is good for society as a whole.
>>84430229We don't know if they would actually press blue if push came to shove, that's true. Likewise, we have people here who are openly gloating and wishing for the death of others who think differently. Do we believe them? Are they really murderous reptiles or just edgelords? I think xitter polls are anonymous and so is this website, so there's nothing to gain either way.
>>84430303>Red means everyone livespeople who pressed red live, everyone else dies, if red wins>blue means everyone who pressed blue diesIF RED WINSpeople having subpar reading comprehension, misinterpreting the premise and voting for something they didn't mean would be a risk, evidently
>>84430303A sociopath is more likely to pick red. An empathetic person is more likely to pick blue. Wiping out blue means the world is going to lose a lot of empathy, that's really not good, things fall apart when everyone is only looking out for themselves. Red can only be viable if you can convince as many good people as possible to pick it.
>>84428490If every single person pushes the red button, then every single person lives.High school needs to be way harder than it is.
>>84430504No, an idiot is more likely to pick blue. A knee jerk martyrdom syndrome fetishist will pick blue.Every reasonable person will pick red. Anyone who fails this test should have their right to vote revoked. OPs pic is a reflection of why the nation is failing. Feelings over facts type thinking fails the system and then the system fails all the people who rely on it.
>>84430535>If every single person pushes the red button, then every single person lives.yes, it's amazing how many retards don't get this.
>>84430504>Red can only be viable if you can convince as many good people as possible to pick it.And that's shaky, because some red pressers, as shown in this thread, have arguments that boil down to>people who pick blue are retards dude, doesn't matter if they die bro, it's good evenThat's not gonna convince shit, not that they would want to to begin with
>>84430590Hear this...if *every single person* presses blue, everyone lives too. You're not gonna get *every single person* on board either way and that's the problem. It would be close to 50/50 and only one of these options would not wipe out half of humanity. As the other anon said, you better hope blue wins, because if it doesn't then you're stuck with a fully selfish, fully sociopathic society. You think you already live in one but you don't.
>>84428490I don't press anything and i leave this stupid game. Participating just makes you an accomplice
>>84430645>You're not gonna get *every single person* on board either way and that's the problem.Why not? It's the obvious answer to the problem.The only way a death can happen is if someone pushes blue. When you reason it that way, just have everyone push red. No one gets hurt that way.If you push blue you're just gambling lives for no reason.
I'm sorry but are all of you retarded?>If the majority pick blue everyone lives>If majority pick red then only all blue pickers dieSimple Prisoners Dilemma>cannot guarantee my outcome 'get one over on them' will work so I go with the mutually beneficial optionUnless you are actively an anarchist or suicidal it is in your best interest to pick blue
>>84430703Just have everyone press blue. I mean you can "just have everyone" do things apparently. Easy peasy. Can even be something like 90%. Still no one dies. 70%, 60%, 51%, 50.000001%, all of these work, no one dies. But of course it's pointless to think about these possibilities, because you can "just have everyone press" blue. Even if someone presses red by mistake, because they sneezed right as they were approaching the buttons, they still don't die. That's not the case if red gets over 50%.
>>84428490I'd press red since it's the dominant strategy
>>84430761>I mean you can "just have everyone" do things apparently.Yes, you can, and you can verify this right now! Stand outside a shopping mall and ask everyone what two plus two equals. They will reply four while wondering why you are asking them something so stupid. You get everyone to agree by asking a simple enough question. The OP is a simple enough question.
>>84430761See the issue is that you have to rely on perhaps millions of people to click blue, whereas if you clicked red you wouldn't gamble your life in any way.
>>84430825Great then. Everyone will press blue in that case, to make sure no one dies due to accidents.
>>84430754picking red ensures you survive no matter whathow is it the suicidal option? so retarded
>>84430842We're not talking about my life. We're talking about everyone surviving. Pressing blue gambles with my life, just like pressing red gambles with others', we're aware of this.
Why would you even consider picking blue? If everyone presses red then no one dies.You are just risking your life to virtue signal. Its a very dumb hill to die on.
>>84430761You are missing the point of the test. The test exists to show how many dummies pick blue because it's the more empathetic sounding option, even though it ends up risking more harm. Those people won't pick red because it sounds evil to them, but pushing red actually results in no lives lost.Red is the most friendly option if you reason through it. Blue only sounds like the most friendly option if you don't reason through it and pick whatever sounds the most nice.If you push blue, you're hoping few people pushed red. If you push red, you're not hoping anything at all, you're guaranteed to live. If everyone pushes the "I'm guaranteed to live" button, no one dies.Red: Guaranteed to live.Blue: Maybe live.The logic of the OP can be re-written as "would you like to maybe live or definitely live?"The only people who push blue are people who have a psychological disorder where they automatically repress meanie-face sounding things isntead of thinking things through. The meanie-face sounding option is actually the nicest option *guaranteed* instead of the nicest option under certain conditions.Red button pushers aren't Cypher like bluepills would like to believe, they're Dr House. Accurate and effective, even if it sounds mean.
>>84428490blue because I heckin' reddit chungus want to die
>>84430843Nobody who thinks rationally will pick blue. It's an unecessary risk. Irrational thinkers getting filtered out would unironically be good for any nation. They don't have to die, they can just all go to Candy Land Island and run their civilization to the ground and ask the functional 1st world people for gibs.
>>84430898>The only people who push blue are people who have a psychological disorder where they automatically repress meanie-face sounding thingsLike the very simple, very ubiquitous word "selfish". You could have just used it instead of coming up with TV examples to tiptoe around it.
>>84430872The argument is that this includes every living person include little babies who might accidentally pick blue so you should help them out
This is why Rule #1 for any prosperous nation is: Feely fruits cannot vote. Or Feely fruit votes count 1/3 of a rational vote.
>>84430926>Btw people choosing the red option is how you get India or any other low trust shitholethis kek, which is incredibly ironic when you read posts like this >>84430923>ask the functional 1st world people for gibshe says as he talks exactly like someone in the lower rungs of a low trust society
I don't really understand, do people who would press red have no moral code? Pressing blue is just the morally correct option, regardless of self-preservation instinct.
>>84430930No, "selfish" isn't specific enough and doesn't describe the problem enough.It's like saying "car no worky" instead of "your oil pressure went too low and you threw a rod." Hyper-empathy syndrome needs to become common knowledge so these people can be understood.
>>84428490Blue because way too many people who deserve to live far more than reds would Press blue. Societies where every man is for himself are the weakest.
>>84428490I would lynch anyone who tried to force me to choose.
>>84430926>it's not at all a feelings vs fact choice.It absolutely is a feelings vs facts choice. Push red and get on with your life. You don't have to push blue and risk anything. Nobody is forcing you to push blue. Play a scratch off if you feel like gambling so badly.
>>84431024Red is gambling too. It's gambling with a lot more lives as opposed to only your own.
Blue is the midwit option
>>84431024Yeah I deleted my comment because after I realized if everyone just pressed red no one would die, mb I'm the retard
>>84431041>Red is gambling too.Wrong. Red only kills people who signed up to possibly be killed. Red does not kill a single person who did not willfully volunteer themselves to maybe die. This problem only kills people who can't reason through the problem correctly.
This kinda makes me dislike autistic people more. If you're not autistic, then you know by default that a ton of people are just going to pick blue, so the only morally correct option is to pick blue too and hope it goes over 50%. Only an autistic person struggles to accept that different people think in different ways than them, and they're also somehow cold hearted enough to believe that because you don't think like them you deserve to suffer in life.
>>84431058Don't sweat it anon, you're a quality guy for re-examining the situation and correcting course. Some problems take more than one pass to fully understand.
>>84431081no the morally correct option is to pick red. picking blue is the immoral option. it's sad that literal psychopaths like you are in here gaslighting us
>>84431080>wrong, but yes you're gambling with lives, but they don't count because they signed up for it, so wrong, but yes...
Red have a nigger mentality. Antisocial and selfish. Think the world owes them something and just takes what they want and acts how they want even though it annoys all the humans (whites) around them. Blues are whites, they realize humanity is about caring for your ingroup. Family, community, nation in that order.
>>84431109lmao this is the biggest stretch I've ever seen. you must be some sort of subhuman
>>84431097Blue is the only moral option once you understand that people are going to pick blue by default.There's no defense for picking red once you know that, other than, "Stupid/immature/idealistic people deserve to die". Which is something that only a stupid, egotistical autist could believe. Which is why autists don't have friends
The whole thread can be settled in one post:The OP can be logically rewritten as:"Do you want to maybe die today or definitely not die today".That's it. Until you can refute that, red is the only correct option. Don't reply to me unless you can refute the above equivalency.
>>84431125Nigger. You can't even fathom the idea of a community.
>>84431134you are a subhuman freak and low IQ
>>84431144Nigger nigger nigger niggerKeep seething nigger
>>84431127>Blue is the only moral option once you understand that "thing I just made up to support my dumb argument" is heckin totally trueyeah solid argument. you psychopaths are really bad at this, it's pretty embarrassing. no wonder everyone hates your type.
>>84431151go be a subhuman somewhere else. real Whites don't want you around sullying our name
>>84431163>OOGA BOOGA BIP BOP MUFFGEN BIX NOODNigGer
>>84431170lmao look at the subhuman revert back to it's natural "language"
>>84431127>thing I just made up to support my dumb argumentNot that anon but there are people in this thread telling you they would press blue. Now I suspect you're thinking...>they deserve to die...aren't you?
>>84428490I'd hit blue if it told me everyone who hit red had a permanent, impossible to hide visual marker for the rest of their lives
>>84431194lmao the most "moral" blue picker
>>84431198Is picking red a bad thing or something? Why wouldn't you want everyone to know you picked red? :^)
>>84431198Your butthurt shows you have some self awareness hiding somewhere. You realize the red marker has negative (read: sociopath) connotations and not something you want to flaunt.
Its like the trolley problem except you decide if you want to tie yourself to the track.
>>84430167it just shows your average voting golem has no critical thinking skills.
>>84428490Dumb people don't deserve to die for trying to be kind so picking blue is the morally correct option. However, a lot of you bluefags would end up picking red if shit actually got serious and I wouldn't be willing to risk my own life for the sake of morality.
>>84428490Is this an in-joke that I'm not part of? The red button doesn't lose in either scenario. Ideally everyone presses red and then at no point is anyone subjected to any danger. But nobody will stop yapping about this retarded xitter screencap. I get that retarded redditxitter screencap threads are 4chan culture at this point but can someone explain why though
>>84428541genuinely this. red survives in either case so there is zero justification for anyone with sense to hit the blue button. i will assume everyone else in the world came to the same obvious conclusion and not worry about them, they are safe because we all hit red
>>84428541because game theory is a retarded concept like IQ
>>84431011if people are pressing red in large numbers then you already have the kind of societyand shaming people into not pressing red at that point doesn't work and pressing blue only carries significant riskonly way to convince people to mass vote blue confidently is to change societal conditions, which many blue voters are unwilling to do because it requires sacrifice, which flies in the face of the philosophy of voting blue
>>84428490The correct choice is contextual. If everyone was already voting red, then there is no harm in picking red. If you saw that someone picked blue, even one person, you are morally compelled to pick blue to rescue them. Failure to do so is not "smart" it's antisocial. Red is acceptable with the right coordination, but if someone picked blue, we are in a social contract with eachother to rescue them. People who refuse to help maintain that contract should be excommunicated, thus the people left over now can safely become a high trust society which is far more efficient and healthy community than the low trust society where the parasitic persons exist and are allowed to go on being defective.
went to redditleast surprising result of all time - majority admitted they are voting blue, and predictably shamed anyone who would vote redit's amazing how much of politics and society is just some lame status game where people performative empathize with others
>>84428490>>84431935to clarify the point further: It's a paradox. The people that want to snuff the others are themselves the one that should be killed for the greatest social benefit. Therefore there's no case where it is acceptable for any actor to do so.
>>84431935spot on, going for the game theory approach is reductive and retarded, like it is every time you go for the game theory approach.It's not meant to be used for any serious scenario, just to fill out silly puzzles and the like
>game theory retards pushing the red buttonAh yes because causing up to ~4 billion people to suddenly die won't completely plunge the world into a global dark age with a massive, unfixable recession for the rest of your life.
>>84431935>If you saw that someone picked blue, even one person, you are morally compelled to pick blue to rescue them.Why?
>>84431959My life is more valuable than 4 billion people.
>>84431959a single dolphin in the red sea has more value than the entire of human life in the middle east
>>84431981You won't like your life in the post-apocalyptic dark ages.>>84431984It's not "kill the selected people in regions you don't like".
>>84431959Not my fault if retards make the wrong decision
>>84431988I dont care who dies as long as I livePlease press blue so I can laugh at your death
>>84431965>you are morally compelledIf you chose not, it would be best if you were the one that died instead.
>>84431988>It's not "kill the selected people in regions you don't like".this test literally self-selects for retardation and lack of survival instinctsliterally the weakest, most gullible and suicidally empathetic morons would be culled if red wonyou'd think that would be obvious
>>84432000>can't explainLeast surprising reply. Shaming is all you guys have.Can you not even attempt to defend your point?
>>84431989>>84431998Stop pretending there won't be massively negative consequences for (you).>>84432001It's the opposite, if red wins then the economy crashes and society falls apart.
>>84432023>Stop pretending there won't be massively negative consequences for (you).People do pointless and stupid shit all the time and I don't join in. I won't join your suicide cult
>>84432023>It's the opposite, if red wins then the economy crashes and society falls apart.not if you convince enough people to vote red, which you should be doingbut you'd rather risk everyone to prove some gay empathy point, which makes you ontologically evil
>tfw redchad>tfw bluecucks are gambling with their lives just so they can feel morally superior God it's so comfy being a redchad. Told my gf about this and she said she would press the blue button. I explained that pressing red has literally no downsides and she was all like "ohhh... that actually makes sense..." and she told me she felt silly for misunderstanding the situation. I tell her how to vote, too. lol any other redchads show this to their gfs?
>>84432038>pointless and stupid shitLike killing up to half the global population and pretending you won't be affected when the government collapses, there's no more money and there are raider gangs knocking on your door?>>84432045Wrong, one should convince as many people as possible to hit blue to ensure that, if red wins, the collapse is as hard as it can be so that red pushers suffer in the hell they created. Have fun in the red world where 98% of doctors and firefighters are dead but 100% of criminals are alive, kek.
>>84432055Half the population wouldn't be dead if they didn't do stupid shit like join a death cult.
>>84432007>Shaming is all you guys have.I'm not shaming you: I'm rejecting your right to exist. We're not engaging in a debate nor do we share a polis together to debate social status. If you reject the reciprocal contract: I consider you an enemy.
>>84432067Exactly, that's why you stay away from the red button death cult if you don't want to live in a lawless broken world in which all the prosocial individuals are dead and you're surrounded by ASPD freaks.
>>84432055>Wrong, one should convince as many people as possible to hit blue to ensure that, if red wins, the collapse is as hard as it can be so that red pushers suffer in the hell they created.I'm not wrong, you prove my point here. You'd just pressing blue and remaining committed to it to "stick to to red voters" because you're insufferably morally superior in your own mind. There's nothing rational about your choice. A fucking pathetic retard behaves this way.>Have fun in the red world where 98% of doctors and firefighters are dead but 100% of criminals are alive, kek.If you haven't been paying attention, 99% of crime happens because of liberals and their suicidal empathy. Vast majority of crime is done by repeat offenders, who are continuously let go by egalitarian, "humanist" judges. A society that votes red would copy what El Salvador has done and do away with criminals shortly and efficiently. As for your point on doctors - the idea that every person who is in the profession is some great humanist is more wishful thinking. The profession is highly paid and sought after with incredible benefits, and many people live in cultures that promote striving for social status. Many doctors would remain because many people became doctors for selfish reasons.Idiot.
>>84432073>I'm not shaming you: I'm rejecting your right to exist.You're impotently seething, actually. I exist no matter what and always will. You'll never get rid of people like me because we are literally required for functioning societies. Empathetic faeries actually ruin high trust societies by enabling true trash to flourish, as we have been witnessing with flooding the west with the third world.Your rage is as insignificant as your dick size.
>>84431965They pick blue because it's a power move, they are attempting to force you to also pick blue. Picking blue is the only option that could possibly result in death. The only reason to pick blue is if someone is trying to force their suicidal immoral beliefs on others and manipulate them into playing along. There is no one to save if nobody had put others in harms way, which only blue does. From a social learning and behavior modeling standpoint picking blue is manipulative and actively choosing to harm others for some feeling they get from making other people act in a harmful way as way. This is inevitably the result because others have knowledge that someone has chosen blue. Everyone picking blue is culpable for any deaths.
>>84432097picking blue is essentially asking a straight person what their pronouns aresame psychological realm
>>84432079>You'd just pressing blue and remaining committed to it to "stick to to red voters"Obviously, yeah. The point is to punish red pushers as hard as possible. They deserve a world with no prosocial people and nothing but ASPD scum.>99% of crime happens because of liberals and their suicidal empathyNo, crime happens because criminals commit crime. Like pushing a button that kills random people, criminal. Enjoy your fellow criminals in the red world.>The profession is highly paid and sought after with incredible benefitsMedicine is a garbage profession for no lifers. People who just want money go into law and business. There are several superior choices if you just want to get paid where you won't have to kill yourself studying. Medicine is very much an area for selfless people who help others, and they have it constantly drilled into them during training. Likewise for firefighters, police, etc. They all put themselves at risk for others. The only people who'd push red are exactly populist morons like you who think you can fix the world by just pushing a magic button.>muh El SalvadorThis is a country where murderers literally tattoo "I am a murderer" on their faces. Pushing the red button makes you a murderer. You're the one who'd be getting Salvador'd.
>>84432097Picking blue is the only morally correct choice: ensuring that, if red wins, it removes as many non-murderous people as possible so that redders are condemned to live in a hell of their own creation. Either help blue win or enjoy your global collapse.
blue is optimistic red is realisticas an internet hypothetical blue wins so ppl can virtue signalbut if this somehow happened in real life everyone would pick red
>>84430754It always fascinates me how people on this site will say the most retarded shit imaginable with such an unbounded confidence in themselves, even if they are so obviously wrong.
>>84432116>Obviously, yeah. The point is to punish red pushers as hard as possible. They deserve a world with no prosocial people and nothing but ASPD scum.Buddy if we got rid of all people like you, how in the world would that be a punishment? That's paradise lol. You also probably can't wrap this concept around your diseased head but struggle and suffering is actually cool and required for self-actualization and a higher purpose. Your utopian faggotry has no purchase with me.>No, crime happens because criminals commit crime. Like pushing a button that kills random people, criminal. Enjoy your fellow criminals in the red world.Again, simply imprisoning repeat offenders massively reduces crime. It's not a hard concept to grasp, you're just dishonest.>Medicine is a garbage profession for no lifers. People who just want money go into law and business. There are several superior choices if you just want to get paid where you won't have to kill yourself studying. Medicine is very much an area for selfless people who help others, and they have it constantly drilled into them during training. Likewise for firefighters, police, etc. They all put themselves at risk for others. The only people who'd push red are exactly populist morons like you who think you can fix the world by just pushing a magic button.Medical field is booming with the highest job prospects of any sector right now lol. It's what tech was last decade. You really have no idea what you're talking about.>This is a country where murderers literally tattoo "I am a murderer" on their faces. Pushing the red button makes you a murderer. You're the one who'd be getting Salvador'd."Le you murdered me because you didn't press the blue button alongside me". Stop trying to make murder look cool, man. The red button is already appealing enough as it is.
>>84432087>You're impotently seethingI think you're projecting. I can promise you that I'm not seething. This >>84432073 is what it is. Do I frighten you because of that?>You'll never get rid of people like meSpoken like a true termite! I admit: i did laugh a little at hearing this. All it makes me imagine is a voice under my boot heel. It's a paradox. You want to share a polis with me and take advantage. I want to erase you because I find your lack of reciprocity to be defective. My morality coordinates with others, but you have no reason to aid the people who share your morality. If you can call what you have a morality. The consequence is that my morality is the standard, and yours becomes the aberration. Therein lies the paradoxical origin of sadism. I'm not upset, I'm actually enjoying the conversation so far.
>>84432148>if we got rid of all people like you, how in the world would that be a punishment?Because people like me make the world work unlike ASPDs and criminals like you?>simply imprisoning repeat offendersNot good enough, we should imprison first time ones too like you and the rest of the red pushers.>Medical field is boomingMedicine is a shit career stop being dumb. Go study it if you think it's so great. Enjoy nolifing in college for the better part of a decade, doing grueling residency and taking care of demented old ladies in diapers for the same amount of money you'd get with half as much effort elsewhere.>you murdered me because you didn't press the blue buttonCorrect. Have fun in your red world with a collapsed economy where only criminals are alive and all the selfless people are dead. Do you have lube available for when the raider gangs show up?
>>84432178>"I'm not upset, truly. I'm laughing, actually. Down right giggling, even! Did I mention I'm not upset?"
>>84431057>muh game theoryOnce again, humans don't use formal rationalism to make decisions and it totally ignores morality and ethics. By failing to press blue, you're actually just a selfish animal not fit for civilization. This is just a reframed shopping cart return situation, and you failed.
>>84432183>Correct. Have fun in your red world with a collapsed economy where only criminals are alive and all the selfless people are dead. Do you have lube available for when the raider gangs show up?You have no theory of mind for how selfishness promotes survival instincts, which inherently causes people to do everything in their power to avoid anarchy.Honestly, you're just very, very stupid, so I'm going to stop posting after this. You have a mental model of the world equaling an 8 year old's.
>>84432196That's why it's the low percentage high IQ option!Only the very smartest of people can understand it.
>>84432189>I'm not upsetIt's true. >I'm laughingYes actually.
>>84432198No retard, I'm hitting blue BECAUSE I'm selfish.Hit blue, win (or red, lose): nothing happens.Hit blue, lose: die right away painlessly.Hit red, win: find myself in a post-apocalyptic wasteland with a GDP of 3 peanuts per capita, where gangs of marauders with mohawks and leather armor terrorize the land riding on rusty jeeps and beheading people with chainsaws for fun.It's obviously best to either live in the blue world or die than to end up sharing a planet with no one but ASPD redders. Better dead than red.
If this is a gut impulse thing and you're forced to pick a button before you're allowed to continue on with your life, blue is going to winIf people can hold off, discuss it, and push messages out through mass media, red is going to winEither way it's not a very interesting hypothetical
well it all worked out
>>84432208>only the smartest of peopleIf you're so intelligent, how come you fail utterly to implement any morality? No, you're just another self-absorbed person convinced that they're better than others and therefore those others deserve to be hurt. It's a profoundly small minded and small-IQ line of thought.There's no penalty for pushing red. There's also no reward to push blue. There is no one to force you push blue. You must push blue out of the goodness of your own heart. You push blue because it's the right thing to do. Because it is correct.
>>84428490>press red>blue wins>nothing changes>red wins>you survived and people stupid enough to not press red are goneanyone who would pick blue is unironically double digits iq
>>84432279>There's no penalty for pushing redThere actually is, it's not a normal prisoner's dilemma. Red winning collapses civilization.
>>84432292you don't truly believe that the world requires several billions of people to work do you?we are overpopulated, most of the issues in the world are due to having too many people to sustain, red winning makes the world better for everyone except rich people who need the additional cattle to make more money
>>84432292>Red winning collapses civilizationWith >50% of the original population, I think we'll be fine
>>84432303>the world requires several billions of peopleYes, the current world absolutely does, especially if they all died overnight. You'd have to be on crack to think that up to 4 billion people suddenly dropping dead wouldn't suddenly plunge the world into the worst crisis in history. It'll be a recession of far more than half of global GDP, supply chains being nuked, powerplants and industrial machinery breaking, roving criminal gangs, resource wars, governments collapsing etc.>>84432304That >50% contains 100% of criminals alive and is missing the majority of conscientious, prosocial people.
>>84428490so red is guaranteed survival, and blue is not. And people still press the blue button? Why gamble your life like that?
>>84432316in reality most of them would be Indian and Chinese, vastly improving the state of the planet.
>>84432327>China>prosocial people>where it's a common occurrence to ignore people who suffer accidents in publicLol, lmao even. Enjoy your post-apocalyptic wasteland redbro. How's siding with 100% of criminals in the world working out?
>>84432327You're a bit slow if you think most of those guys are pressing blue
i press blue.
>>84432348it's just a numbers game retard, india and china make up the bulk of the population of the planet, even if they choose red more often on average, you're losing way more of them than any other demographic.and logically, if you believe that chinks would exclusively vote red then red is basically guaranteed to win since they have far more voting power, so you should never choose blue, regardless of your morals, most people aren't going to view it as le bad vs le good
>>84432279I don't care what other people do. I will choose the best option for myself. I return shopping carts. I don't hold the door. I drive a bit slower to allow room between cars. I don't expect to be rewarded nor punished for my rational decisions. I do not live thinking that I am making a huge difference with my actions. It seems you can't live with the thought that anyone intelligent would not also be empathetic. It's not the case. I have empathy, sympathy, but I don't let myself be controlled by those emotions. I wouldn't eat anything if that were the case, because I would feel too bad about the life I am eating.
>>84432373in this situation society doesn't collapse either, china just takes over the whole world since they no longer have any strong opposition
>>84432279>No, you're just another self-absorbed person convinced that they're better than others and therefore those others deserve to be hurt.this is the majority of this board and site. if these people were allowed any sort of control over a first world country they would instantly turn it to africa tier, and then theyd write a long essay about how thats based because normalfags deserve it and survival of the fittest or something
I would press red because I think the world has a lot of people that should die and they would want me to die as well so it's fair.
>>84428490There's no reason to press the blue button, unless you're virtue signaling that you're a "good person".
>>84432418I've been around for a while. While this site has never been good, I can't recall it being so willfully misanthropic. It's all so obviously hollow too. The closest thing I can think of to compare it to is some sort of self-harm-by-proxy. Some idiot teenage girl cuts her legs while obsessing over her imagined faults she doesn't like in the same way these weird little men compete to have the most asocial virtue signal while obsessing over imagined faults in society. It's interesting to watch in a way.
>>84432606>misanthropic.that's not just 4chan, the entire net is this way now
kinda weird how bluefags are seething and malding so hard
>>84432616they don't like realizing that a very sizable portion of the planet would hit red
>>84432619almost like they want the red pushers to, idk, all die or whatever because they disagree
>>84432650bingo, it's virtue signaling + malice combined
>>84431626The correct answer is red, but the statement is not so subtly in favor of blue to virtue signal against anybody who chose red. The joke is that it's easy to manipulate morality by using pretty words.
>>84428490I don't fully comprehend the question so I'll just press blue because it's my favorite color.
>>84428649>being selfish and disregarding the wellbeing of everyone else Risking your life on a coinflip is just plain stupid. As far as I'm concerned what this hypothetical really exposes is how controlled by groupthink and emotion some people are. Death is only possible if you pick blue. If someone you have no control over puts their life in danger, you're not selfish for not joining them. Do you blame yourself for perpetuating driving culture when a complete stranger crashes into a median. Of course not because their death was of their own making.
