i don't like people at all. it is not their fault though, it is me, but it is also not entirely my fault either. i was raised a certain way, with certain parents, and it fucked me up on an emotional level, not necessarily physical. But not not-physical either, but that wasn't the main thing......just imagine you have two parents who do not get along with eachother at all, then divorces. yes it is common, it doens't make the children misanthropic necessarily. but keep in mind, i am half of my father, half of my mother, so my personality is something in between. my father a very pragmatic + intellectual person, ENTJ....Mom a very down to earth, caring, emotional person, ESFJ..(but also stupid and shortsighted.)Me? INFP schizo tranny. Ni-dom in socionics, i basically share my fathers longterm visionary capacity without the rationality.....And i have to withstand so much abuse from such an umempathetic, capitalist-jew penny counting psychopath. And then my mother who is caring yet awful at considering the deeper existential problems, everything to her boils down to how well you sleep, how well you eat, and groom yourself....having to have dealt with these people, who have indeed cared for me a lot, but offered me little to no actual care about my inner world, my feelings my ambitions........always nitpicking and trying to re-program me into normie society. It has led to my hikkiomori nature and i feel so much wrath inside whenever i have to interact with them, or people in general. Judgemental ass cunts.
>>84434686Double extravert parents are a lethal combo for an introverted child alright, especially one that might try to stick to his/her type without getting swallowed up by external demands until eventually you realize you were an introvert all along.It might work if at least one of them happens to be more willing to acknowledge introverted needs, but the thing is that society(western especially) teaches you to either ignore or devalue these things, so even the types you would expect to be "caring" like the stereotypical ExFJ might just not get what they even have to care about and why.I'd expect ENxP to be acually your best bet as a parent because by default these types, extraverts as they might be, particularly pay attention to the things that go beyond common sense and well-established facts.
>>84434686Stopped reading as soon as you started mentioning the MBTI shit.You'd have a better go at life if you stopped pretending to be smart, you pseudo-intellectual faggot.
>>84434949He will do better than the retards typing themselves or others via DSM disorders.Granted, he will do worse than somebody who bothered to understand MBTI/Socionics are both misapplying Jung out-of-context and without even getting what the words even mean, but still. The very fact you can conceive the idea of types without defaulting to "there is only one normal type, and then there are mentally ill people" is a huge step up above modern retardation.
>>84434949you could've just stopped reading at the beginning, i put MBTI in the title as a warning for people who dont like that stuff
>>84434961imho jung provided some insight which theorists of MBTI and socionics expanded upon. why is it out of context? the socionics institutes in soviet russia + ukraine did a lot of research on the types, the functions, the intertype relations. there's a lot of information on their wiki, it seems like a lot of what is said about it, how types behave and their basic tendencies....seems to correspond well to my experiences atleast. I understand why i can talk to other people who share the same functions as me, who have the same quadra.. jung did not really get to see his ideas / observations get reinterpreted, expanded upon. he laid the foundation for the rest to be built basically
>>84435181>why is it out of context? MBTI/Socionics only become slightly better horoscopes without the concepts related to orientation, conscious/unconscious, differentiation/integration, Ego/Shadow etc>people who share the same functions as meFor instance, this statement doesn't make any sense in the original framework. Everyone has all 4 functions, and the mechanisms of introversion and extraversion. It's all about what becomes more or less determining for somebody's own psychological profile, what's operated by the subject's will, and what happens as compensation more or less autonomously.>jung did not really get to see his ideas / observations get reinterpreted, expanded upon. he laid the foundation for the rest to be built basicallyAfter reading him for a long while now, I'm quite sure he would write against whatever we are doing nowadays with his typology and curse having exposed such ideas at all. He was firm enough about not wanting to structure this kind of thing and use it to categorize people.
>>84435155Its not that we "dont like it" its that its complete nonsense. You may as well read tarot cards, starsigns or peoples palms.
>>84435756I don't like MBTI/Socionics myself but it's still better than those things. If anything, because you are using a test/any other self-report method as opposed to "the stars said so". There's a higher chance somebody can actually describe themselves properly, though to be fair many people can't either.The real issue though, is what I mentioned above.
>>84435756okay well the bottom line is that i have become more or less schizophrenic by being with incompatible people. Every other week spent with one of the parents, who individually i can't stand. If i was in a functional family i wouldn't be so mentally ill because if one parent were to treat me unfairly the other parent would've been there to stop it.......No protection. I believe in personalities and compatibility between people, i have no compatibility with either parent. they're insufferable, and this is the reason i'm a mentally ill schizo who's been going in and out of psych wards. I have never felt like i could speak to any of them. Also i am in my own delusion perhaps believing that i have pinpointed the exact reasons from a MBTI/typology standpoint and i feel confident that i know why.........but i dont have to go into that...
>>84435890>Also i am in my own delusion perhaps believing that i have pinpointed the exact reasons from a MBTI/typology standpointIt's a framework as good as any, especially in the context of personal differences and clashing types since it was the entire point of the theory.
>>84435890Are you a woman into mbti?
>>84434686>INFPi hate you so much
>>84436093I'd rather leave that detail....mysteriously vague...... ^__^
>>84434686>agp tranny schizo autistic retardClassic combo. If you don't grow emotional calluses soon enough you can very well kys to avoid further suffering. Your best chance is getting a shitty job right now
>>84436333Good op. Now get a fucking job. You can very well learn a trade meanwhile. Also it's irrelevant if you are a tranny or not, unless you live in a shithole country
>>84436224It makes a difference what you can and should do.But judging by this obnoxious reply, you are a grown man.
Not exactly my kind of MBTI thread, but keeping the love alive anyways.