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Most of the "advice" given to lonely or single young men isn't designed to help them, it's designed to keep them busy and distracted until they get too old to care anymore.
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if you get busy with non solitary hobbies you increase your chances of meeting people and stop being lonely.
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>>84439957
Hobbies are bullshit advice, normalfags don't participate in hobbies.
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>>84439957
That isnt true. Hobby groups arent real. Everyone just does hobbies with their friends who they meet through proximity.
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>>84439991
Then go get proximity to them
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>>84439855
the only real advice is relentless self-improvement and not to fall into the entertainment trap where you're just distracting yourself instead of working on something

>>84439979
kind of but not necessarily, it depends on what it is and is it something you skill up and get better at? or is it based around consumerism?
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>>84439855
Your cup is already too full. Most people here do not want advice. They want engagement.
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>>84440032
>the only real advice is relentless self-improvement and not to fall into the entertainment trap where you're just distracting yourself instead of working on something
aka work to become a better taxpayer
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Anyway here's a post -
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>>84440040
you completely misunderstand what self-improvement is and who its for
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>>84440046
I've spent the last decade "self improving' and it's gotten me nothing.
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>>84440032
>>84440046
you just described what OP was complaining about
this advice does not address the root issue which is loneliness. It just keeps you busy
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>>84440051
care to elaborate what you consider improving yourself looks like?

>>84440054
distracing yourself with anime/vidya is the distraction trap, having a purpose is something else entirely
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>>84440054
>>84440051
he also thinks that self improvement is somehow supposed to make you a better taxpayer?
what the fuck is with that retarded explanation?
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>>84440073
>distracing yourself with anime/vidya is the distraction trap, having a purpose is something else entirely
what is the purpose of self improvement then?
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>>84440080
it depends on what draws your interest, mine will be different than yours and his
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>>84440090
self improvement won't fix loneliness
you can lift all you want but in the end you will go from a skinny lonely loser to a jacked lonely loser
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>>84440079
Are you stupid? All that self-improvement-maxxing is just going to make you more employable and wealthy aka a better paypiggy for the state but it will NEVER help you with love.
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>>84440101
nah do something fun, disk golf, skate, garden, build, craft, leatherwork, so many things you can do outside of 'just lift bro'
skating and landing tricks will make you forget about women entirely
all of these things have people and a community to get involved with that helps with the loneliness
its up to you do work on yourself and find things that interest you that will get you involved somewhere

>>84440124
>still doesnt know what self improvement is
sorry little buddy, you got a lot to learn and some mental barriers to overcome
hope you can see past it at some point
you are your own worst enemy
luv you anon
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>>84440147
>skating and landing tricks will make you forget about women entirely
so it is about staying busy and distracting yourself...
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>>84440153
no thats vidya/anime, like i already said
at a certain point, you're doing this to yourself and if you are unwilling to help yourself or do anything, nothing anyone says is going to make a difference
you are your own worst enemy
change your mindset or rot in your own self pity
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What do you want them to say then? Just stay depressed and suffer horribly? They're trying to let you down easy because they feel bad that you lost the genetic lottery
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>>84440164
and it's different from games and anime how exactly? In the end you are still just distracting yourself, the so called "purpose" is superficial at best.
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>>84440173
he feels hopeless but until he does something different for himself nothing will change and he'll remain exactly where he's at

>>84440178
anime/vidya will leave you lonely in your room with no chance to make connection with anyone
you are the only person limiting yourself and no one is coming to save you
luv you anon
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>>84440207
so will self improovment when you realize it's a waste of time and that it won't actually give you what you need
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it's intentional

neurotypicals/hylics intentionally give deceit and shit advice so you don't figure out the hidden hierarchies that actually decide shit

because if you find out their game is blown wide open
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>>84440218
i've been self improving for 5ish years now and i havent found it a waste of time yet, in fact i cured my 7 year soul crushing depression after a BPD demon destroyed me
almost sudoku'd a few times during that time too
you just dont think its possible so you wont give it a try
hopefully one day you'll get the courage and strength to work past it
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>>84440247
>i've been self improving for 5ish years now
to what end?
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>>84440350
dude, stop sealioning. it's retarded.
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>>84440361
i'm not sealioning. Those are legitimate questions and you can't seem to be able to answer them.
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>>84440032
>the only real advice is relentless self-improvement
Not really, you don't need to improvemaxx to get a gf and be happy at least.
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>>84439855
The goal is that the genome cleans itself up with as little incel violence as possible.
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>>84440350
to be better man than i was yesterday

>>84440390
never stop improving even if you end up with someone
mentally or physically
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>>84440373
and it is not my job, because i'm not that person, but it seems like you didn't notice. i'll make it clear for you, that person is using a trip on some board that is intended to be anonymous. that's very stupid, but it is not the point.
the point of hobbies, which is what robots seem to largely miss, is that they're not a guaranteed thing to fix loneliness. hobbies are supposed to make you spend all that energy in something that helps you build a skill or give you tools, instead of masturbating, watching porn or browsing r9k all the time. it's literally profound mental retardation to believe hobbies are going to magically fix your loneliness, because they won't. and getting a hobby because you want to get friends is retarded.
but have you talked to other anons on this board? have you noticed the amount of people that can't hold a conversation outside anime, videogames, or can't even change a lightbulb at home? how do you expect a woman, or even friends, to enjoy your presence? most normies can get friends during school, not because they're the shit or superior or anything, but because these things come naturally to them. self improvement could be something that doesn't get you a girlfriend, but maybe it'll make you feel less depressed. if you're depressed because you're lonely, then so be it, but you're trying to fix a problem whose roots are WAY before the point you can even try getting a girlfriend. by sealioning, all you're expecting is the guy to tell you he hasn't found a girlfriend by self improving. good. maybe he's not fixing his problem, but he's solving a problem that should be solved first. a problem he's been carrying for years. it's like you trying to learn calculus without knowing basic math. learning basic math won't make you good at calculus, but it certainly is needed for it.
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>>84440428
and if you are not able to learn calculus then what's the point of learning basic math?
>>84440426
more empty platitudes
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>>84440447
thats the whole point silly boy :p
self improvement isnt just physical its also mental which is why it works
but it takes effort which you do not seem to want to give
its fine, you'll just stay bitter and angry and frustrated until maybe one day you'll realize what you need to do for yourself
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>>84440466
i have given enough effort. It only made me jaded and tired
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>>84440173
Yes, lying is always evil
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>>84440468
clearly you crave more than what you currently have and in order to get that more effort is required or you will remain exactly where you are ^^
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>>84440499
more empty platitudes
I have given more than enough effort
more than most people give
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> I am so despondent about everything. Everything I try goes totally wrong. There is no escape from this hole here

I do not know why we have to be obsessed with selfish self improvement. 100 years ago the Germans solved exactly our same problems within a generation, before we chose the wrong side
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>>84440523
yes 100 years ago men were a self correcting issue since most of them died in wars
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>>84440508
you still havent even said what you've done to give all this alleged effort my dude
so you're the one with the empty and overly vauge 'i already did enough' statements hehe
so what have you done that you think so highly of yourself for?
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>>84439855
True, if your life sucks dick just distract yourself and hope that it can't get much worse!
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>>84440572
>so what have you done that you think so highly of yourself for?
i went out of my way to be the best person possible so that people would like me
i adopted hobbies so that i would have something in common with people
I was patient, i was kind, i did everything in my power to make sure the people i was trying to befriend felt like they mattered
none of that mattered as i was abandoned every single time.
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>>84440605
you have said absolutely nothing of substance other than self pity statements which tells me you havent done anything but think the world of yourself

i was homeless for a fucking year and a half living in a van
you're a child and have no idea what real struggle is
grow up dude, this is pathetic
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>>84440649
wait this is woman thinking
>I am the bigger victim therefore your issues don't matter!
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>>84440663
nah you're just being a baby, and projecting like that with the ad-hom is more of a womans game
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>>84440663
pointing the finger at everyone/everything but yourself as the problem is also another womans tactic
they refuse to take any accountability for themselves
sorry dude lmao
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>>84440696
I think you are getting way too emotionally invested into this argument my bro
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>>84439855
I think some of it comes from a good place. But ultimately not everyone can make it, which some just can't accept I guess.
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>>84440700
>no you
c'mon lil bro hehe
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>>84440447
>and if you are not able to learn calculus then what's the point of learning basic math?
oh is math only used for calculus? my bad. asking questions is easy, that is why you do it. start by using your brain a little bit, i won't spoon feed you.
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>>84440649
>>84440663
>>84440684
>>84440696
>>84440700
Why do I feel like you sissies have cute cocks and breedable bussies?
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>>84440709
i don't really care about anything else
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>>84440741
because I do
but I'm not gay
femdom only
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>>84440769
>femdom only
That gives women the ICK, feel sorry for u.
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>>84440769
how does it feel knowing you're only attractive to men and that dominant women don't exist?
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>>84440768
sounds like a (You) problem. too bad! get that peanut brain to work.
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>>84440032
Join the CCP already.
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>>84439855
>Most of the "advice" given to lonely or single young men isn't designed to help them, it's designed to keep them busy and distracted until they get too old to care anymore.
True. Also to keep them as wage-slaves.
This system, and Western society, is broken to hell.
With computers, we should have had UBI, and Keynes' 15 hour work week.
Instead, we're returning to neo-feudalism, and non-Chads are all turning incel.
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>>84439855
OP stop giving vague shitty advices and blaming people on the board with your shitty anime pictures. you didn't help a single person and your faggot bpd story didn't help either
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>>84439855
I don't like giving lonely men a chance since most of them lightly disrespect me or treat me like a subhuman and witch hunt me for entertainment as their discord clique. And no, I don't have borderline. And no I wasn't a bitch. I was obsessed with one of these "lonely" men and he just didn't like that.
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If you need a gf to not feel lonely and sad you've already failed. One of the first things that incels get told is that they have to be fine on their own before they even think of getting a gf.

You know what your reward for giving up on a girlfriend and focusing all your energy on being fine without a girlfriend is? Not having a girlfriend. This is some Buddhist mindgame bullshit when you tell people the way to achieve their goal is not to achieve their goal. People tell incels to go be fine alone because they want incels to fuck off and leave them alone, not because they want to help.

I always thought it was more along the lines of "build a life a woman would want to be a part of" but then when I looked around and saw all the druggies losers and simps who get pussy and the fact that women don't have to build shit to get partners, that's when I realized it really is just telling incels to fuck off and stop bothering them.



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