The Battle of Blood River is possibly the most embarrassing BTFOing in human history. A force of only a few hundred Dutch settlers faced off against tens of thousands of Zulu warriors. The result: 3000 Zulus killed, while only 3 Boers were injured, with no fatalities recorded.Battles like this continued to take place throughout Europe colonization of Africa, although to a lesser extent. In the Battle of Rorke's drift during the Anglo Zulu war of 1879, less than 300 British soldiers defeated 3-4,000 Zulu warriors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blood_Riverhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift
>>84442692You really believe this propaganda?White people outright lie about history to justify their feelings of supremacy.Who is winning now?
>>84442692i don't get white people you could've literally conquered whole world a century ago and made world mostly white but instead spent money making inferior races multiply into millions. Africa could've been another white continent especially south africa, north africa and madagascar. Now somalis and indians roam streets of london taking advantage of your welfare.>korean anon who likes white race
>>84442712This is truth Iran show it to this day with sinking two american carrier ships and killing 2512 soldiers while our government covers it in lies
>>84442692nah man, there have been some really weird military blunders throughout history. iirc a couple where they literally ended up fighting and defeating themselves in a panic, i seem to remember reading about people's different ideas of the "biggest military blunder in history".. including recent ones like but not limited to: India losing a submarine.. to leaving the hatch open.
You be finna say some honkies with guns managed to defeat and scatter some people with sticks?????FACE THE MIGHT OF EVROPA
>>84442829This is the same type of retard who picks the gorilla in the 100 man hypothetical btw
>>84442829slow firing guns that take a whole minute to reload, maybe a little less. Just rush them while they're reloading but fearsome Wakandian warrior were too stupid to figure that out.
>>84442692https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZLIvUGHKJcI saw a pretty good history channel special on Rorke's drift
>>84442692Mayans or aztecs got btfo by hernan cortez
>>84443399they got wiped out by diseases more than anything, hard to fight when 90% of your population is dead from smallpox. Even cortez relied heavily on other natives to do a lot of the fighting, exploiting dissent among the Aztec's recently conquered peoples. There were only around 200 Spanish with him.
>>84442692>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eland150 years later, just the same thing.
>>84442848In 1839 they had gattling guns
>>84442692The only thing which makes this more baffling is that the negros had guns too, they just didnt know how to use themI read a story about african militias having completely maladjusted iron sights because they thought "higher" means the bullet is stronger. Putting those 60 points of IQ to good use
>>84443410and the beaners thought he was an angry god
Rhodesians also btfo'd nig communists really hard too
>>84443399he got helped by a force of like a hundred thousand rival natives tho. It was so massive spaniards couldn't stop the incoming massacre they would inflict on the aztecs once the final siege ended on tenochtitlan because there were literally just too many of em to stop
>>84442717The false songstress of equality.We genuinely want others to be as we are, for it opens many possible doors. Trade > Colonization. Even from a pure economic basis, IF equality was true, we don't have to waste time setting up a whole other society / continent, we can just trade with something already mostly there.Also religion. Christianity preaches equality (in spirit), and before contact with others it was largely self evidently true. This got baked into the society across generations.By the time a few learned the truth, they were rebuked by others who had not yet seen the truth, and it was a long lesson.Even now you have those brainwashed into thinking it's all systemic oppression, because to believe otherwise bears heavy implication.
>>84442692Holy shit blacks are pathetic
>>84443410And 300 is loosely based on real life it's not uncommon for a smaller group to btfo a larger group.
>>84442692>Dutch settlersboers are as dutch as americans are british
>>84443399>>84443410>>84444890>>84444861Obsessive Aztec history autist here>thought he was an angry godMoctezuma II certainly didn't think this, Cortes's own letters clearly establish that Moctezuma II saw him as human (see pic). Some other people might have thought the Spanish were gods, but some or all of that is likely revisionism and only shows up in accounts decades later.See https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17404007/#17407659>exploiting dissent among the Aztec's recently conquered peoples.Not really, that's only arguably true for say the city of Chalco, and then Chalco only defected after the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan was struck by smallpox and made vulnerable. The actual main reason Cortez got allies against the Mexica of Tenochtitlan isn't because they were particularly hated or because of sacrifices (which was a pan-mesoamerican practice everybody in the region did) or anything like that, it was mostly from political opportunism, something ironically enabled by the fact that the Mexica, while conquerers, were loose rulers with a hands off political system.In general, likely due to the lack of draft animals and the difficult terrain, most large Mesoamerican kingdoms or empires did not directly govern their subject cities and towns. The Aztec Empire was not an exception here (in fact it probably replaced kings less often then Classic Maya dynasties did, and by contrast Aztec's rival empire, the Purepecha Empire, WAS a rare case of a directly governed imperial power in Mesoamerica), and the Mexica generally left existing kings and other officials, laws, and customs in place, usually only demanding taxes of economic goods (they did not usually demand sacrifical victims or slaves as taxes, nor was there a "quota" for sacrifices) or labor/military service, for subjects to not block roads or interfere with Mexica trade/taxation, and for them to put up a shrine to the patron Mexica god Huitzliopotchli. 1/2
>>84445953>>84443399>>84443410>>84444890>>84444861ContThe Mexica also weren't usually razing/sacking cities, massacring or enslaving everybody during their conquests, though certainly there were exceptions where they replaced kings (especially unruly ones and/or for states closer to the core of the empire) or sacked cities (such as when one incited others to stop paying taxes)However, this loose system left subject states with their own identity, agency, and interests, so they had both the ability and incentive to opportunistically secede, defect, etc, especially when their capital was in a weak position. You'd often see a state allying with or pledging themselves to a second state (since subjects mostly got left alone), so both could then work together to take out their capitals or rivals, and then the first state would be in a position of high status within the new kingdom/empire they helped prop up for the second stateThat's what happened with CortezThe Mexica themselves rose to power in similar circumstances, and other Mesoamerican states continued to ally with Conquistadors against their rivals decades later. Also most states who allied with Cortez only did so after Moctezuma II died and smallpox broke out, so Mexica were already vulnerable, and most of those allies were also "core" states that benefited (to a degree) from Mexica conquests, by the time they switched sides they just had less to lose & more to gain by doing so since those benefits were already jeopardized. Also, only some Aztec subjects defected to Cortes, not most, and many only switched sides after being beaten or conditionallyFor more info see pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/int/thread/220614413/#220624574 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64935126/#64961571 and a bunch of the posts in this thread desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 2/2 unless anons have more questions
>>84442692I'm pretty sure Iran pushing America shit in is.
>>84445984What alternate universe are you posting from? The opponent in the Iran war is China and the oil blockade is exactly wat we want to happen. America will drag it on for as long as it takes to get our refinery infrastructure set up to process American shale oil, and China will be forced to do something desperate.
>>84445984This very much the american lose three thousand soldier but the pedophile covers it away nobody knows the truth
>>84446459>the american lose three thousand soldier
>>84445977Have you looked into their religion at all?I'm curious how it compares to other non-christian ones that we know of such as Japan's Shinto. Buddhist isn't really the same thing and Hindu isn't even internally consistent so hard to reference that one.
>>84445953>Moctezuma II certainly didn't think this,Probably because he was accustomed to being worshipped as a god, like your quote directly implies
>>84446670I know a fair bit about Mesoamerican religion, yeah, though moreso religious and mythological iconography then everyday spirituality and rites.The bigger issue is I don't know much about other historical religions to really make a super informed comparison. Based on what I do know about say Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Ancient Greek and Egyptian religion etc, there's definitely parallels you can draw between some or all of them.Like Shinto and other aspects of traditional Japanese religion, there's kind of a potential similar element of how there wasn't always a clean distinction between deities and things like nature spirits (of particular mountains, for example) or what we'd call demons or ghosts. There's also a similar sort of vibe in my mind between Aztec religion and Shinto in the emphasis on religious festivals and to a degree even just aesthetics, in that Aztec women dressed somewhat similarly to Japanese women with long robes/blouses, hair buns, and face paints, and both having a lot of mountain ranges and how that played into customs and practices.On the other hand, something like Hinduism might be similar in the sense that (at least as I understand it), Hindu deities have a lot of variations and aspects, and similarly in Aztec religion, the identity of various gods bled into each other, either explicitly due to them being aspects of the same deity, or because two separate deities shared traits and iconography (or both, if there's a a distinction between those two situations at all, etc). Similar to Greek or Egyptian religion, different groups and city-states had their own patron deities and local variations on myths based on the regional importance of different gods, etc. >>84446885As I said, the evidence for other people thinking Cortes was a god is quite spotty as well, not just with Moctezuma
>>84442712how do you think apartheid and colonialism happened in the first place, anon?19th century whites had way better weapons tech than their opponents, those "two artillery pieces" were a huge deal against men armed with throwing spearsand then once the weapons spread we had decolonization
