I posted here a couple days ago about how I finally met a cute girl, well, its not going good...She is super sweet but she seems to be taken back by my physical advances. We've gone on like 5 dates in two weeks, and we've kissed on every single one, but I was always the one to initiate, and today when she met me she just turned her cheek which I smooched. She sat down besides me, didnt reach with her hand to hold mine. The only time she hugged me was to say goodbye, I asked her "dont I get a kiss?" and she said no... then I jokingly pleaded with her to kiss me, which she did, but... it really didnt feel like she desired me to kiss her at al. She's not playful or coy, she genuinely only kisses me because she knows I want her to.I am completely turned off. Where there was attraction and wishful want, now an empty hole. I don't even want to meet her anymore, but she seems so great otherwise... maybe she needs more time? She broke up not so recently, my insecure side is telling me she's still into the other guy and that she's stringing me along in case that doesnt work out for her.Do I give her more chances to warm up to me? I was thinking about asking her about this directly, maybe she was hurt by someone in the paat?
>>84444034im not really too big on this sort of thing, but if u always initiate maybe its time to just not do that. just casually ignore her and see if she eventually makes a move of her own volition? thats what i would do. stop asking for dates and ignore her until she engages herself. if she does, good, if she doesnt, fuck her. right?
>>84444067She seems happy to go on dates, hell, we've been on a date literally every day when we were both in town so far. Today we couldnt meet because I had work so she dropped by the office, which I thought was cute as hell - until she decided to be completely distant as per usual.Her passivity is exclusively physical.
>>84444034>she just turned her cheek which I smoochedmaybe she was Christian? you're supposed to hit people in this situation
>>84444104maybe ur just overthinking it then
>>84444104talk it out?
>>84444245I suppose I will... I feel like if she really doesn't like being touched or kissed, I couldn't love her though. Being held is the most comforting thing I can think of.I also think I did a lot of damage by going in for so many unwanted kisses if she does like me. I wish she just told me what she wants. It's always this uncertainty when it comes to women...
>>84444344Above all you are probably making a lot bigger deal out of this than is needed.>It's always this uncertainty when it comes to women...good luck on building communication
>>84444359>good luck on building communicationI had a very good 4 year long relationship in the past, where communication went so well. But you're right, I never expected that I'd have to rebuild my comms skills. It is a completely different person afterall. I'm probably going to be way too blunt and scare her away. What the fuck am I even typing, I'm embarrassing myself in front of me, I dont know what the hell happenned to me man.
>>84444402>to be way too blunt and scare her awaydo you think she's that fragile? can a question be worse than actually doing something you're going to ask about?
If a girl isn't 100% onboard from the start she's just stringing you alongdowngrade this flakey ass bitch and start using your energy on some new girls
>>84444034Dumb her if you only want sex, she will dodge a huge bullet. Sex isnt everything in relationship
Wait are you the guy who met her in a foreign land and ended up wandering the city together?
>>84444518Yes, indeed>>84444466Sex is very important in a relationship but that's not what my post is about. I'm fine with her not wanting to go all the way so soon, but she doesn't reach for my hand or rest her head on my chest or shoulder, that's a basic level of trust and affection missing I feel
>>84444034>I asked her "dont I get a kiss?" and she said no... then I jokingly pleaded with her to kiss me,Kek, simp begging for affection
>>84444163>you're supposed to assault your partnerthis is why im a volcel virgin
>>84444586That's only because men don't really like women outside of sex, there's a reason whenever a man shows respect to a woman they call him gay or simp. I'm glad I realized this before wasting my time dating like other women.
>>84444615>Kek, simp begging for affectionJust didnt know what to do with the situation. It felt so strange that she didn't that I said the first thing which came to mind
>>84444624No, you've misunderstood. I'm assaulting you. You have 6 minutes to live.
>>84444647>That's only because men don't really like women outside of sexThis is ludicrous. Love is about two people trying to make each other's life as happy and carefree as possible. If men never wanted anything but sex from you then either you fell in love with bastards, or you're trying to rationalize your failure as a partner on every level except sexual.
>>84444679NTA but zoomer men my age don't talk to me irl so my only form of socialization with them is the internet where they call me a nigger and foid. Gen Z doesn't really talk to each other offline anymore so we get our impressions off of inflammatory online interactions.
