why have men become so undateable?or was it always like this because they didn't need to adhere to no standard?
Do not respond to this bait post. Do not mention the elephant in the room. It's just here to get you angry.
>>84445942Imagine being a 30 year old and dating like you are still in college. My grandmother was 38 when my mother had me.
tl;dranyways: how does that sub have 1.9 Million members?I remember back in 2021 stumbling over some weird female image board that basically was like this but it was just like a dozen angry early-30s womenmeanwhile now I can scroll through the comments of a 2 million strong internet-formum and see comments like>I hate menthat have thousands of upvotesbut yea ... male incels are the problem
>>84445951>Do not mention the elephant in the roomcare to elaborate?
>>84445942im gonna teach my son to be le nice!
>>84445971Dude it is going to get ALOT worse in the next 10 to 20 years. Offy doffers have nearly dried up and the old hags are getting more delusional by the day. Just ignore them, get fit, take care of you and make money. This bitches had the chance to get any man when they were in their teens or 20s.
>>84445982She says she dates all different types of guys so "men" aren't the common denominator. She's 30 and unmarried.
>>84445942Most single adults are trash. Attractive or well adjusted people never have any issues getting a good partner. It's a skill and attributes issue. And this is not a just world fallacy. Just as (almost) anybody who can work well will find a job, it's just how it is.
>>84446050not saying you are wrongshe 100% is the true problemBUT>she dates all different types of guysis probably a lie anyways
>>84446050Not quite what I meant. There are two rules that she did not mention, that she will NEVER mention, but will always adhere to.
>>84445942Kek. This is some low quality bait. Ain't no way that's real
>>84445955>I'm still a bad bitch. Men are the problem.
>>84446060>>84445942WHY WON'T CHAD COMMIT, MEN THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO FIX!
sounds like zoomerism, desu. I can't imagine why messaging someone once a day, and having a conversation once a week is hard or pleasurable. what are you even doing if you don't do that? How is that even a friendship, let alone anything more?
>>84446198 This isn't zoomie shit, it's just attractive men fucking some chopped foid and he's putting in the lowest amount of effort possible. He is not interesting in seriously dating her, he just wants to fuck her as long as possible.
>>84446198I have avoidant personality disorder. I cant help it.
>>84446198She's probably unbearable to be around. That's why she's 30 and still single, and none of the guys want to talk to her on a daily basis, or even meet up with her in person once a week to fuck her. Not even the sex is worth being around her.
>>84445942>hear from them once a day>see them once a week>confirm plans the night before>be honest>have normal conversationswhy would Chad need to do any of these things when he has several women on the fly, maybe if they weren't Chad-only they wouldn't have this problem
>>84445942I've told women all kinds of bullshit to justify not actually spending time with them when I'm not fucking them>ah, I'm just not very social>I don't know what we are yet>are we exclusive? I dunno...>not looking for anything seriousThey just aren't good enough to hang out with. Good enough for a poke and that's it
>>84446616Yet they'd rather be strung along by a Chad like this than settle for an average guy
>>84446198Talking to each other every single goddamn day is insane. There is not that much to say. This is why everyone is going stir crazy. Phones and texting are a curse. We shouldn't have to live like this.
>>84446627You sound schizoid anon, my e-gf and I talked for a couple hours per day
>>84446627yeaespecially if its forcedone some days you just have no time so it leads to some kind of meaningless ritualjust move together but noooocan't have that because that would mean comittment and lower chance of getting to fuck her back-up-chads
>hiding the subreddit name and poster namesLeast obvious reddit foid post. Kill yourself off 4chan you obese whore./r/GirlDinnerDiaries/comments/1swuw4w/how_have_men_become_this_undateable/
>>84446626I didn't even become semi-successful with women until my mid 20s.All it did was make me hate them
>>84445942Because the men she's trying to date don't like her. She's getting what she *can* get, doing the best she can, rather than going for someone who actually wants herIf he wanted to, he would. If she wanted to, she would. This is why I date 2s/3s as a 6, because they'll try very hard to get me
>>84445942Bait thread. But:>"If you twenty five years old talking about "niggas aint shit" then you need to get a handle on your life and take some responsibility, bitch. What you mean to say is the niggas you fuck with aint shit. You need to figure out what it is about your pussy that keeps attracting aint-shit niggas." -Katt Williams
>>84446666You can either love women or you can understand them.
>>84445942She's not dating her looksmatch/personalitymatch. Guarantee you there's guys here that'll do that whole list but they aren't 6'2", six figures, six pack, chiseled jaw, hunter eyes, etc etc.It's the stuff she left out to look innocent that implicates her. And she can call me bullshit only by dating a robot who meets her (fake) list and live happily ever after.
>>84446060Jobs are a bad comparison. There are no jobs.And no, the majority of people are single now, so the problem can't be them.
Women are simply far too picky these days and need to lower their standards and be taken down a peg
>>84445942>lowest divorce rates>male/male marriages>middle divorce rates>male/female marriages>highest divorce rates>female/female marriagesI think I found the problem
>>84446198Listen, if I was interested in a girl once a week date is totally doable. However. If I'm not seeing her tuesday I'm not going to be texting or calling her tuesday (without a reason). Saying hi is not a reason. That's actually considered high maintenance. How the fuck do you think people dealt with it before internet / cellphones? They just did.>>84446637I was like you once, now I'm like the other anon. I'm not certain what it is. Maybe age, maybe we just got burnt out. Hour long conversation? Can totally happen. But I need it to be in person, I'm not going to just put a bluetooth headphone on while I'm gardening or playing with the dog, I'm, hang on let me switch to woman mode. "I'm grounded, in the moment".>>84446627I agree, however, my siblings have a parent who was working away for home for the entirety of their life. As in, away mondays-fridays kind of a thing. As a result, they always call to say goodnight. It's like an hour. Every. Day. They're like 25 or something now (girls). I don't understand.I'm more interested in why so many of us seem to be schizoid. Is it simply that we got burned off normal human interaction? Is society truly that fucked? I can understand a few bubbles here and there being bad, but it seems to be the norm.
>>84445942What has actually happened is globalization and global communication have elevated women's standards to an insane degree.Think. A woman's instinct is to seek the 'best' mate in her community, in terms of things like attractiveness, income, etc, correct? And there was a time (before the 90's) when the world was full of big fish in little ponds in that respect. A woman would look at her community and see the most attractive, successful men in it as viable partners.But our 'communities' are now global, and now, instead of being compared against just the other men in his local area, a man is compared against billionaires and supermodels. Suddenly, the men that were viable partners three decades ago are 6/10's when compared against the richest, hottest, and most successful men in the world. Expectations have lifted to an unrealistic apex, because women all want the top men, but that means a globe full of women want a handful of men and won't settle for less. The supply does not meet the demand, and this manifests in women complaining that no men (that are in their local area and interested in them) live up to their unrealistic 'standard' of hollywood actors and corporate CEO's.Naturally, a similar phenomenon has happened with beauty standards for women. They're no longer compared against the other women in their community, but against models and pornstars.None of us have changed. We're just judged against a broader pool of 'prospective' (not actually prospective, since the top 1% of women/men do not live near us, are not in our social circles, and are not interested in someone like us, though it does not feel that way because parasocial relationships) partners and judged more harshly than we should be as a result.
>>84446627This is also correct, but women are attention addicts so they can't help themselves. It's like expecting a junkie not to snort a mountain of cocaine.
>>84446060The point that incels usually make is that the juice isnt worth the squeeze. I got fit, looksmaxxed, got a shitbox car, money and everything a woman would want. Yeah, now women want me, but as you may understand, i would be genuinely pissed if i just settled for a SSRI crazy old wrinkled used up roastie because that shit doesnt fucking compare to me. Im dating a 27 yo zoomette who wants to start a family, worships the ground i walk on and is considerably hot. Im 34, is things with this girl goes to shit i will stop dating and the most i would do is pumping and dumping because this girl is already the peak of femininity and i wont be able to find anything better. Incels are right about chads, but chads are right about women.
>>84447609Why not just simply shoot your shot again if it fails? I am dating a woman 11 years my junior from Turkey now. I used to be incel to age 25. Currently I am 33. Pretty sure this one lasts, I have understood now that the woman has to want the relationship more than the guy. Took me only almost 20 years
>>84447551>Naturally, a similar phenomenon has happened with beauty standards for women. They're no longer compared against the other women in their community, but against models and pornstars.The problem with your statement is that men are more than happy to settle down with "the girl next door", to the extent that that's even a porn genre now due to its popularity.
>>84447621Yeah, not only the woman has to be more in love but also has to be way younger than the guy. Feminist say its pedo shit but no nigga, women need to feel their men is more mature and capable than them. Ive had old roasties confessing me that what they really wanted was a guy to make them feel safe as if they were little girls with their dad. I dont wanna think about breaking up with current gf because i unironically think shes the one because of how fucking based she is in most aspects. She even says feminism is trash and that she doesnt need it even tho she has been abused by her exes. I always wanted a woman to build something together and millenial women are fully blown degenerates. I really hope gen z and alphas fix this insanity.
>>84445942if men are so terrible why is it only retarded fat ugly manly white women who are having trouble with men?sort of telling on themselves.
>>84445942uhhh, if shes only attracting guys she finds to be trash... that means shes trash.
>>84445942not my problem, normie sex-haver nonsense.
>>84445942Men didn't change a lot and neither did women, what really changed was the incentive structure for women.Men want women just because they want a woman, but women don't actually want a man and they never did. They will tolerate a male in their household only as long as there's a direct, immediate material need for them, which is no longer a factor.
>>84445951god bless you poster
>>84445942>have to call, text, or meet once per daythis is why I will never be able to have a gf like these women think I should make my entire life be about them just because we are together like damn let a guy have some days to himself.
Newsflash. We fucking HATE dating. We just want to get laid a lot with someone who likes us, and chill out at home.Also, foids will fuck Chad without making him jump those 'muh dating' hurdles, so it's all a scam anyway. Fuck travelling too.
>>84445942Remimder that this shit would've made you a boring fuck she'd cheat on if she was in her teens/early 20s. I wonder who socialized men to act like this.Women underestimate their power to condition men.
>>84445942Women need to try lesbianism. Sniffing a cute girls armpits feels like a heaven
>>84446666digits confirmbut kind of funny
>>84447551>>84447685Studies repeatedly confirm that women have up to 20 different parameters when choosing a partner, but men only have to:>Be cute ENOUGH>Be nice to be aroundThat's it. Looksmatch + don't be a bitch to be around.
>>84445942I hate self-hating misandrist pieces of shit whose minds have been rotted by the feminist ideology, like that disgusting redditor replying to this post. I have zero tolerance for people like that. They are the lowest of the low scum that should be excised from any self-respecting community.
>>84445942This sounds really stupid, you're in your 30s and you are MONTHS into your relationship and still arbitrarily only see them once a week? No wonder they lose interest. And I'm sorry, expecting some performative jestermaxxed text message every day just because you think it's some rule people have to follow IS high maintenance and annoying.
>>84448445>boo hoo I hate men who can defy the mindless in-group preference and develop basic self-awareness
>>84445942Why do women want to date? Can they not be content with their own thoughts?
>>84448516What you're calling self-awareness is actually ideologically-induced self-hating bigotry that has no reflection in reality. So spare me this bullshit. Fuck that pathetic waste of space and fuck you.
>>8444594299% of women are uninteresting and boring, they only thing they can offer is sex. It's time for women to women up.
>>84448888kek wills it
>>84446190>CHAD IS A WOMANwild take.
>>84445942I think that nowadays we just don't need it. I used to feel a girlfriend would complete me, then I had a few and realised it's meh. Apart from the initial rush of fucking someone new it's of no benefit.
>>84448911You kinda do need women, men die of disease and depression without a wifeWomen die of disease and depression if they have a husband
>>84448888Men are not worth it. I woman up for another woman only >_<
>>84449010>Women die of disease and depression if they have a husbandMarried women outlive their husbands and single women.
>>84449010>shit i just made up
>>84449010Women bench stress and discord. I need peace and quiet. If I could sleep for 23 hours a day, I would
>>84445942>in person once a weekit is because I don't want to date her. simple as. she receives scraps, bottom of the barrel. instead of affection and intimacy, because she isn't giving any in the first place.TL;DR: clear case of it being her own fault
>>84449041he's vibeposting let him cook
>>84449041Search it up. If you are man and non married you will die early and depressed and alone.Women get happier after their husbands die. Its like men bring nothing positive into womens lives, men streal womens life force.. literally
>>84449031Yes and they reach their peak happiness after the husband kicks the bucket
>>84449120damn who hurt you sweetheart
>>84447316>Jobs are a bad comparison. There are no jobs.Come to think of it, it's an excellent comparison:For both, you have to endure a gauntlet of nonsensical vetting processes, get held to utterly unreasonable standards and when you check out of it because getting stuck with subpar gains for extraordinate effort, it'll be you and others like you who gets blamed because 'no one wants to work/commit anymore'.And both are exponentially harder to do if you don't already have one or had one very recently.
>>84449120>Search it upjust because there's a jew article on it on the web does not make it real
My last girlfriend wanted to hang out way too often. We wouldn't text constantly but she would always want to come back to my place after work. I'm like uhh sure but I got work in the morning so it'll be an early night. I'd get some ass but she'd sleep over so you get a shitty night's sleep. The trade off wasn't worth it after awhile and I just wanted to have a decent night's sleep or just be alone in my place. And I always have to plan out what to do. She comes over and we're not eating fuckin eggs. I have to go out and buy her dinner too. Never contributes. My time, my gas, my money. Ugh...
Weak fathers and porn addiction making men too gay. That's it. My bf has a strong father and it made him a 10000% better man than others I've dated.
>>84449206kek. severely underrated post
>>84449569Weak father and his porn addiction made me a man hating lesbian
>>84449615Ok miss make it about yourself what else you wanna share with the class?
>>84449206capped, there are smartposters on /r9k/ still
My dad was a Chad. My mom was a frumpy woman.My dad cheated on my mom, beat the fuck out of her, and repeatedly abused both of us for most of my life. He didn't hold a job for most of his it, and even when he did he wouldn't give her any of the money. She obsessed over him til the day he died and took care of him lovingly. unfortunately for me, Chads and ugly frumpy women create ugly beta sons, and at no point in my entire existence will I ever secure that level of devotion from a woman. The only women that I even qualify for are women that look as ghastly or worse than me, and those women don't find me attractive either, so at best we would be in a sad, leftover arrangement in which both of us cling to the first warm thing that isn't disgusted by us. I can just get a dog instead, and bask in the reality that every single working class divorced man alive is living a much worse hell than I am.
>>84445942>To hear from them at least once a day.>Meanwhile peopleaare telling me that the reason the girl I went out with ghosted me was because I "sounded clingy" when I sent her a good morning text every day.
