Reading someone smart feels weird, like your brain changes a little
>>84446240Reading a total fart sniffer feels weird, like your brain changes a little.
>>84446240that entire passage is pseud shit dressed in flowery language, there's nothing smart about it at all
>>84446257That would be true, if it wasn't part of a thousand pages book and posts. You could say that there are lots of long bad books out there, but you cannot fake logic that long
>>84446250>>84446257thats great guys. why not share what you consider good or interesting writing then. not even to make fun of it, i just want to know what it is that makes you feel something.
>>84446274>that homeless man who won't stop rambling on the street-corner must surely be on to something
so you just gon text somebody in the middle of our date? am i boring you?
>>84446307I wrote a paper about how to make computer programs from facts using math.
>>84446310Never mind the fight over who's right or wrong; what do you think of the idea that a good place for defenses to be would be with the things that are obvious to you, because you'll never question them?
>>84446387Nothing is sacred. The question should be un-asked.
>>84446403Why do people always respond with pure nonsense as soon as I try to dissect the logic? It's like "nice we can talk freud stuff! What do you think of (logic applied to the unconscious)?" >meaningless satanic shit
>>84446240>Reading someone smart feels weirdCool. Are you going to post an example?
>>84446442May be just a lack of context, for example these are good, the logic twists but never breaks. https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/08/just_because_you_see_it_doesnt.htmlhttps://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/10/the_story_of_narcissus.htmlBut why isn't it smart for you?
hows this for logic then. explain what the fuck made you bring up "La invencion de Morel" specifically and don't say that its just a flex to show someone sounding smart is like which you could have used anything else to demonstrate. why this? why this exact fucking thing?
>>84446439>What ideas should be defended?>"None.">Wow dude you're like the devil
>>84446240staging her corpse is a way to cause a woman to love you? What the fuck is this word salad? people can throw the most nonsensical words together with zero elaboration and think everyone knows what they're talking about. if its an abstraction and not a literal one its a very stupid pseudo intellectual move to sound deep.
>>84446307>why not share what you consider good or interesting writing then.https://registry.khronos.org/vulkan/specs/latest/html/vkspec.html
>>84446542Because I often try to share the parts I find really good, and as I was reading now I felt that "uff good stuff", so I shared it>>84446550if you read just past that it says "morel goes with 3". Can you think what ties those two together?
>>84446550staging the corpse is what they did in weird science. its what gatsby does by thinking success will finally make her fall in love with him. its what self inserting fan fiction writers masturbate to. its what lieutenant barclay does when he goes on the holodeck. its what you do when you lay down and daydream about the one that got away. what i want to know is why the fuck mr smartypants op brought that shit up for.
>>84446591well smartass what do YOU think about it then? tell me that artful dodger.
>>84446240I wish I was dumb enough to be stupefied by jargon and prattling, the world would be full of infinite wonders to amuse myself with, no mystery why the normies get on so well
i know you did not just try to up it on me!!!
>>84446622damn, mind sharing the logic flaws I can't see em
This reads like pseudointellectual bullshit for retarded women. Are you a woman, OP?
I am really glad that completely pointless walls of texts that could be condensed to a sentence are now over.ChatGPT did humanity a favor. Now all pointless walls of texts to take up space and your time will be considered AI.Now people will actually have to get to the point.
>>84446662Okay we'll start with it's beginning What does 'cinematically' mean here and why did he say this?
>>84446668OP was written by a White Anglo-Saxon male, pay your respects.
Here's more context. A main concept that repeats again and again is the inability to act, unless on impulse or compelled; but never because you want to, desire and action are completely severed, it's a mechanical and precise flaw.
>>84446688You don't get it, you uneducated pleb, using pointless descriptive words that don't describe anything is cultured and vibrant. It's the cinematic representation of an overly anguished spirit of the author, who has suffered a sorrowful childhood.
>>84446701This is truly riveting-- perchance you could share more, good sir?
>>84446706>using pointless descriptive words that don't describe anything is cultured and vibrantsneed
>>84446688He was talking about that just before; here you go, his definition of hypocrite is good stuff toohttps://files.catbox.moe/lp6wm7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/shho3m.png
>>84446706ugh yes the writing style is "chocolate syrup on chocolate ice cream" and it doesn't actually get down to its brass tacks until the bottom 2/3 of the page but you couldn't get past the first awful 6 or 7 sentences to realize it. op seems to be making an overall point about choice and determinism here and is kinda bull fighter caping you into making it for him due to your inability to read more than three sentences. but op is still gay.
>>84446706>cultured and vibrant.That's just called being verboseBeing verbose is annoying and bad style >>84446727>He was talking about that just beforeOkay then you should be able to tell me what cinematically means there What does it mean? I'm not reading any more of the prattle, tell it yourself
>>84446708he certainly won't explain what he thinks about it! maybe he is incapable of deriving meaning and needs us to do that for him!
brevity is the soul of wit anon, say more with less
>>84446321Please tell me moaaar. Anon, please let me sit on your lap as you explain math and coding to me. Please please please
>>84446746>What does it mean? I'm not reading any more of the prattle, tell it yourselfok Ill dumb it down best I can>narcissism is looking at oneself>(u) cant act, literally>you feel like the main character in your movie, but the "kind of person" you say you are you took from the kind of movie you think you're in, and since you can't fantasize, the frame of reference for the type of person you are is the fantasies that you were shown ie tv, movies, media. And the flaw is that the character that you force yourself to act as means you live your life doing things that that character would do, that are excusable for the type of character you're in.. and no more."Cinematically" is in the context of narcissism
>>84446811>>narcissism is looking at oneselfNarcissism is from the story of the god Narcissus who fell in love with his reflection. From this you can say things like, for example, falling in love with a projection of the self into another, is 'narcissistic.''Looking at yourself' is just reflecting. I don't know what this has to do with the word 'cinematically' or why it's used to describe a kind of sensuality. I'm not reading the rest of that because it is evidently a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Do you see the point now?
>>84446829Just read this, maybe you'll like ithttps://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/10/the_story_of_narcissus.html
>>84446841I just told you I'm not reading a bunch of verbose nonsense. It doesn't work on me. I told you I wished it worked on me earlier ITT
>>84446811the kind of movie i think i'm in... you mean planet earth? or was it very deliberate you try to make it seem like im just solipsistically imagining all this up since thats obviously what you do right, mr first person view?well thats just your opinion man (see that sword can cut you two)and i can assume just as easily as you have that the objective world does exist and that i can in FACT objectivity know it, lil bitch.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfF9syPzuV0but me believing that doesn't bother you or anything does it? you know me being all right and you over there being all wrong.
>>84446240Attempt at narc manipulationDon't read
>'Looking at yourself' is just reflecting. The "love" was him being unable to look away. If you have a person that constantly thinks about himself, about the kind of person he is, about why he does what he does or is what he is, where are his eyes looking?Your read of "it's love, not looking at yourself" let's you ignore the part when it's all about having your focus on yourself until you decay having done nothingI can't say it more plainly, and I don't have good prose at all. If you didn't get it from him, I doubt I helped
>>84446257when you read a sentence of highfalutin garbage and then two more before you arrive at any kind of kernel you know you're dealing with a charlatannot every noun needs an adjective and neither does every verb need an adverbnigga needs to shelve his thesaurus and get to the point
>>84446883You're stupefied by verbosity. You're either retarded or high on something. This should be concise and plain enough to make sense to you
>>84446856Easy, get a mirror: What kind of person are you? What's your archetype, if you had to give one? Now, think of the movies or media that have a character like that, like the kind of person you are.It's not a coincidence, nor is it that you like/admire that kind of character so much you emulate it; it's that you act as the kind of guy you want others to think you are. It's a performance.
>>84446914can you explain your crusade against narcissism without acknowledging how its a gradient gauge not a black and white on/off switch that all people need just to exist at all? you seem like you're just broadly villainizing it, not acknowledging when its necessary, which tells me you have a bias about it stemming from...
>>84446803OK. There's a neat thing about code where all of it is math. Alan Turing and Alonzo Church proved that "so-and-so number of lines of code" is the same thing as a math function. Programmers took the route of writing a bunch of lines of code instead of using math. This makes it easy to write out some program of things to happen in some order, but it also forces things to happen in order, one thing after another, instead of at the same time. So, the way that most people write code is slow. If you want to make your code fast, it is easier to do when it is defined as math functions instead of as lines of code. A lot of programmers have been using "functional" programming more recently.How can a bunch of math functions become a program? One property of a function is that you can chain them into structures, and these structures can be abused to define mathematical objects. One such object is the atomic fact type. An atomic fact is a unit of information that cannot be broken down further without losing information. For example, "I'm alive" is a unary atomic fact with one role-player (me) performing the verb of living, and the fact type is something like "Person is alive." So, you can define a program using facts by gathering sample facts, extracting the fact types, and then running a grouping algorithm that lassos the fact types into a database. That database holds all the facts. The database can also be used to show all the screens that you need, and you don't even need to design them yourself. It is 2026. There are UI frameworks that will just show typed data.All you really need to define programs then are facts and flowcharts. The rest of the program falls out of math.
I'll be honest I got no idea what you guys are talking about.
>>84446933well duh and animals who can't even pass the mirror test still behave in "archetypes" yet you couldn't blame media on it since they can't even watch movies either! we are shaped by our thoughts but we are also shaped in largest part by the physical world and is strict rules. and what creates those rules? not movies and tv shows, nope there is something much much more fundamental that wants me to act the way i do and i will do as he says!
>>84446963I think OP might be some sort of chatbot or completely coked out of his mind Everything he says is so amazingly non-sequitor that there's no indication he is even alive or interacting with me and what I've said specifically
>>84446976his topics eg the invention of morel, narcissism, determinism are so all over the place! i wish he was better at explaining himself so i could really break his ass down because now im mad!
>>84446963It's like >You describe yourself by a label (eg nerd, loyal, manly, whatever)>Those labels, you didn't come up with them, you were told and shown what they are (media)>Using the archetype means you also want as the character wants, those are the wants "that kind of person would want"So >what you want and >what -the kind of person you decided you are- wants may be different. Your actions and your wants are disconnected. How did you learn that That kind of person has Those wants? What wants do you have that go against the character you're pretending to be?
>>84447038>How did you learn that That kind of person has Those wants?Nigga never learned to look in the mirror and check if he was smiling
>>84447054yeah and his explanations are standing to sound more and more like horoscopes. aries the ram likes to act bold because he is a sun sign!for one thing people act the way they for biological reasons (like the gene for alcoholism or manic depression) not just because they saw it on tv or read it in the horoscope papers. they may also have the violent criminal gene that sporadically appears in their family causing their mother or father to beat them leading to severe personality disorders that aren't because they watched spider man 2 too many times.and if someone wants to be the super hero archtype or whatever? MAYBE ITS BECAUSE WOMEN GET WET WET DRIP DRIP TO THAT SHIT and therefore select for those traits since the beginning of fucking timewtf Opi almost thought you would come with the ether
>>84447098>"How do you know what you like?">Have you tried checking if you're smiling while you do it?>"How dare you"
>>84447054Let's say you think you're a nerd. You didn't come up with the meaning of the word -nerd-, did you? You learned what it means from media, or by other kids subjected to the same media. Media taught you what a nerd is.When you take the label of "I'm a -nerd-", you also take what you were shown a nerd wants. What happens when you want something that you were never shown a -nerd- wants? Your are dictated by what your character would do, now what (You) would do
>>84447164>What happens when you want something that you were never shown a -nerd- wants?>Your are dictated by what your character would do, now what (You) would doAre you implying that nerds of all people are incapable of original thought?
>>84447175Replace nerd with whatever label applies to yourself, you learned them all from the same place
>>84447164What kind of subhuman falls for this kinda stuff?
>>84447186Are you implying that people of all kinds are incapable of original thought?
>>84447191Nice argument, very logical
>>84447195The fact that you can even think I said that means you won't get it. Sorry
>>84447199Why would I behave like what the archetype and not myself? I'm more than just the box people put me in.
>>84447204>The fact that you can even think>means you won't get itI see, so I need to do a bunch of drugs. Be right back.
>>84446954That's pretty neat. I don't really understand yet and would need more examples and explanation. What are some problems you can define like this? Can I sit on your lap and we press our chests together while you explain?
>>84447219>I'm more than just the box people put me in.n-no you're not you can only copy other thoughts instead of creating your own thoughts through emergent complexity >>84447204>The fact that you can even think I said that means you won't get it. Sorryno no no op maybe you are actually the one who needs to think outside the box this time.
>>84447238you're momma a hoe!
>>84447238>What are some problems you can define like this?Everything computable, but I use this for AI guardrails. You can define possibilities and obligations for facts, so at that level, programming is just saying what you want.>Can I do all this gay shit?No. That is why Alan Turing was castrated.
