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Do you guys hate all tattoos?
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>>84447841
Not all, but I definitely hate pointless retardation on visible places
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well i hate THAT tattoo
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back tats are pretty sexy if we can be honest famalamadingdong
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>>84447841
imagine finally getting a gf and she has this on her back
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I like how many traditional societies had tattooed women.
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>>84447862
An oddly universal experience.
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They look disgusting and completely ruin female beauty
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>>84447841
Yep they're really low class and trashy looking.
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>>84447862
The internet did irreversible damage
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>>84447872
The internet in 1927 Indonesia, or the internet now that pretends to be ahistorical?
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>>84447871
That is exactly what they thought about the Tarim Basin mummies of Xinjiang, China, which date from 1900 BCE to 200 CE.
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>>84447878
no, the internet which convinced every single woman to get a shitty plant leaf and horribly drawn cat tattoo
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>>84447871
>Yep they're really low class and trashy looking.
skill issue
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>>84447841
Have you ever masturbated to a whore and say to yourself "damn she would look way better with ink on"? No.
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>>84447884
trvfh nvke
they should be getting garter tats like these
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In the current era, what kind of mindset would a woman have if she decides NOT to get a tattoo.
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>>84447891
uh, yeah? i masturbate to a young daughter of the picts (1585, jacques le moyne de morgues) all the time
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>>84447904
exactly
>dieu peut remercier bach, parce que bach est la preuve de l'existence de dieu - cioran
carpe diem/yolo motherfuckers
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>>84447884
Exactly. Modern women should be getting face tattoos like their ancestrixes.
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>>84447841
Yes. Piercings are stupid too.
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>>84447870
>>84447871
>>84447924
like you people have never jacked off to the work of nobuyoshi araki or takashi miike. what, too good for ichi? the killer? prefer jeff? squares.
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>>84447932
I prefer the Hell Courtesans of Sayume Tachibana, personally.
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>>84447841
I don't hate tattoos, that's a chud incel thing, I'm a vanilla flavor incel
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>ywnb a japanese tattoo artist tattooing the design of an oiran or geisha upon the back of a half nude beautiful busty young lass while your elders gather around to watch in 1955 nippon
>ywnb tokumitsu uchida
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>>84447924
tfw I hate tattoos and any nose piercings, but I love navel, nipple, and vag piercings.
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>ywnb as close to naked female flesh as horibun i was in japan in the 1970s
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>>84447889
japs might just mog on this one idk, they take great pics too. look at that warmth
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>whang-od oggay, the oldest tattoo artist in the world and last mambabatok of kalinga, is still working at 109
>and still mogging too

whats your excuse
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>>84447870
>>84447871
And every other hater ITT, you would decline fucking these women?
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>>84447991
You find this
>ugly and unattractive?
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>>84447841
Tattoos look fucking retarded on men and women. The designs are never tasteful. I was at a restaurant recently and there was a guy with a pit bull tattooed on his leg that had really, really badly drawn blood around its mouth. I have fucked women with tats because like 50% of women have tats, but man, they normally have hideous fucking designs.
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>>84447991
>>84447995
Not even willing to let them bend down and give out blow jays to you all?
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>>84448000
>obscures her flat ass
>distracts from her fridge body
Well, I guess it can be called an improvement?
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>>84447998
the only tats men should have should be vintage russian prison tats
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>>84448013
lesbians can also have vintage russian prison tats
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>>84447841
I love my pale skin too much to ruin it with dirt.
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>>84448005
The probably dead woman from 1991 or earlier Japan cannot hear you, bro.
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>>84448005
>surprised nippon women arent fat
really?
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>>84447998
>not wanting to get pegged by this
ok faggot
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>>84448032
I have had sex with women who had worse tattoos, genuinely. Like a girl with Simpsons tattoos.
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>>84447923
Honestly, why ARE there so many societies that have female-only tattoo practices? Largely indigenous ones from various parts of Asia or island nations.
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>>84448037
Shame you never traveled back in time to 1949 to fuck all the qt Algerian dancer girls with forehead tattoos. Also why am I supposed to care about ugly women you have had bad sex with?
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>>84448038
Totally unqualified opinion but it probably started as marking women as identifiable property of a certain tribe, clan or person, then women kept doing it to each other as a way of trauma bonding the way men get their sons circumcised even though it's a retarded practice.
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>>84448037
coulda woulda shoulda fucked jacci gresham, nola pussy hits different
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>>84448051
The discussion is about whether or not someone would fuck a chick with bad tattoos, and I said I would, because I have. Simple as that. The reality is that tattoos are a feminine thing now, and if you wanna get laid you have to look past retarded tattoos.

>Ugly
Trashy, but not ugly, I will say that much.
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>>84448057
uh kek no, feminazi?
>>84448038
initiation rituals, spiritual practices, generally marking transition phases analogous with male tribal tattooing practices. easy way to show history and status that can never be denied or revoked
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>>84447841
Tattoos look fucking ugly.
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>>84448057
Hm, I disagree with that idea. These women are obsessed with their tattoos, and your corollary makes more sense to compare directly to female genital mutilation, otherwise known as female circumcision. (Yes male circumcision should be called the same.) Not terribly far off though. Tattooing enslaved women was a common practice for conquering tribes. There is a reason tattoos are prohibited in Judaism and mean you cannot be buried in a Jewish cemetery (whoopsie for the Holocaust). This is an example of a survivor of familial slaughter and sexual slavery during the American Genocide, where many women were tattooed precisely to show property as you describe.

>>84448064
>The discussion is about whether or not someone would fuck a chick with bad tattoos.
No, you brought that up. The OP is:
>Do you guys hate all tattoos?
I do not care about your incessant need to tell everyone about how much sex you have with ugly women you hate. Fuck off, narcissistic sexhaver normalfaggot scum. Not everyone cares about what you do with that pitiful thing stuck with sweat to your thigh.
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>>84448077
This is just describing generational trauma and torture, just like circumcision or those rituals where boys cover their genitals in ants.
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>>84447942
for me its the spider woman
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>>84448104
do you think all forms of community ritual are trauma and torture? for many they are deeply, transcendentally spiritual. very western perspective. one argument for the decline of the west is precisely that it has embraced cartesian mind-body dualism so deeply that it has alienated itself from the sensory pleasures of the body and the earth when desiring to reach the heavens with their patriarchal sky deity above, in rejection of the chthonic goddess and ambiguous trickster deities in the dirt and muck down below. the lack of mysticism and ritual is a commonly cited source for the misanthropic isolation and void modern westerners feel. that, and the ever-important sense of individuality in rejection of collective communal welfare and the erosion of the social contract and third spaces. why pathologize practices under an oppressor/oppressee hegemonic victim narrative? would all these people be better off practicing in their cbt and dbt workbooks before their weekly betterhelp telehealth check-ins and the bimonthly psychiatric referral to refill their ssri and benzodiazepine prescriptions?
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>>84448101
Uh.

>>84448000
>>84447991
These are posts about that very subject, whether or not someone would have sex with these women. Don't be disingenuous.
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>>84448135
Yeah, basically. Communities develop mutilation and humiliation rituals as a form of trauma bonding and permanently tying members to the community. "It happened to me so it has to happen to you" is what leads to gay rape in the military, for instance.
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>>84448148
buddy pal friend are you citing my own posts back to me as proof of my disingenuous nature in insulting you for not wanting to hear advice about how to get laid from a guy willing to bang a girl with a simpsons tattoo
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>>84448153
Hm. Well I fundamentally disagree with that perspective and find it incredibly reductive when considering the massive hop skip and a leap between getting assfucked in military hazing and tribal spiritual rituals as well as fundamentally ethnocentric, but you have a point about the underlying psychology especially when extrapolating that to coming-of-age rituals and circumcision or other forms of bodily mutilation. Not like these communities really let you opt out should you be scared and decline. Sovereign bodily autonomy is rarely valued highly in societies that practice the enslavement of their enemies, for instance.

Some of the coming of age rituals for young men in parts of Africa or Latin America are brutal. You mentioned the bullet ants already. But, for instance:

>Before reaching manhood, a boy of the Matis tribe needs to prove himself worthy of hunting alongside other men. To do so, he needs to pass their initiation rites, a complex four-stage trial that places him in great danger and great pain.

>The first part of the trial consists of temporary self-blinding. The boy puts a concoction of bitter and dangerous poison straight into his eyes. The elders believe that once the sight returns (if at all) it is enhanced and will make the boy a better hunter, enhancing the senses and improving vision.

>Next, the boy endures a series of brutal whippings and beatings by the other men. These are done with the stems of the rattan plant. The whipping is supposed to help remove laziness.
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>>84448198
>The next step of the four-stage trial is even more extreme. The young man is injected with the poison of Phyllomedusa Bicolor (Giant Monkey Frog), a small poisonous frog native to the jungles of Brazil. The poison is placed directly into the bloodstream, and its effects are brutal. If the boy proves his courage and does not vomit at once, he is injected again. What follows is light-headedness, violent vomiting, and uncontrolled bowel movements. In the end, it is believed that the frog poison will greatly increase the man's strength and endurance.

>Finally, in the fourth stage, the initiate is body rubbed with the leaves of a poisonous plant. This causes a heavy painful rash that lasts for hours and is believed to help the man with patience.

>Only after completing these demanding initiation rites are the men deemed worthy of accompanying others in the hunt. The only catch is that these trials are repeated many times before every important hunting trip.

Like what the fuck is this? Not even the worst of it either.
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>>84448216
>The Mandan tribe of the Great Plains region of America is one of the best known and best documented tribes of the continent. They lived in the area of what is now North Dakota and were one of the great trading tribes and excelled in corn production. They also had a complex set of traditions and beliefs, all of which were well documented by European explorers in the late 1700s and early 1800s. One of these was the Okipa or Sun Dance ceremony. It was a religious ceremony that was of the highest priority for the tribe, but it was also an initiation rite, offering a chance for young warriors to become respected and admired members of the tribe.

>There were at least three purposes to the Okipa: the annual commemoration of the tribe's salvation from the primordial flood (according to their myths), to communicate with ancient spirits and summon buffalos, and to give the chance for individuals (usually men) to complete vows given to the almighty spirit to prove their bravery and dedication. But not everyone could endure this brutal ceremony. Only the bravest of warriors could get through this violent rite of passage.

>Before the ordeal, chosen warriors would not eat, drink, or sleep for four days. Afterwards, they were led to the great hut where the ordeal began. They were required to sit smiling, while elders pierced their shoulders and chest, thrusting skewers behind the muscles. Next, ropes were tied to the skewers, and the warriors suspended in mid-air, hanging there until they fainted.
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>>84448230
>Elders would add more weight to their legs, in order to increase agony and tension on their muscles. Next, they were removed from the skewers, and upon awakening the approval of the great spirits was confirmed. In gratitude, the warriors would offer their left little finger, which was cut off as a sacrifice with a hatchet.

>In the last step of the ordeal, the men would race around the village, dragging their weights behind them, until they ripped out of the skin alongside the skewers. This marked the end of a grueling ordeal. Men who completed the rite twice in their life would gain everlasting fame in their tribe.

Seems really easy to just not fucking do this. Ever. How would you even think this up?

I am partial to the theory that worldwide male initiation rites in the transition from boyhood to manhood are due in part to not having an obvious physical transition like the onset of menstruation with women. But even that is not universally regarded as entrance into womanhood, or even the marriage market. This is a fascinating subject. Why the brutality though? This is a completely homosocially male environment and development. Women cannot be blamed for whatever the fuck this shit is supposed to be this time.
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>>84448032
Wish I could have a gf like that but Latino. Life would be so perfect.



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