human monogamy is a meme, humans are meant to engage in polygynous relationships where a socially powerful man (either because of his status / resources or because of his looks / genetics) has multiple wiveswomen would rather share a Chad or a very rich man with other women than settle for an average man
>>84450397If that's the case then why did polygynous societies get btfo by monogamous societies every single time in history? Except like the Mongols, one time
Why don't we all just get together and kill that guy? In nature I mean. In order to secure our own mating success. How can such a large percentage of men be so brutally cucked throughout history?
>>84450418Nobody is monogamous you literal child. Get the fuck off the Internet
>>84450419That's basically how it happened and what caused the development of civilization
>>84450419Because we don't live in nature we live in modern civilization. Men who would kill this also can get a woman. Only offy doffy betas who never get a woman or will have to betabuxx some 40 year old fat walled roastie would never.>inb4 some nonsenses about incel shootersBlacks in the usa shoot up more women per year then incels every did.
>>84450487Your grammar is shit
>>84450419Because that guy was wealthy and charismatic, and therefore could not only afford to support a harem of women, but also pay guards to keep you away from him and kill you if you tried to attack him/steal his property/take his women. Ideally, they would capture you alive and take you into a visible public area to beat/torture you to death as an example to the other beta faggots of what happens when they get uppity.
>>84450419Because in the old times, the powerful man would hire men (often eunuchs) to protect his harem. In most modern civilizations things work differently due several reasons (including religion), but human most natural relationship is one powerful man / leader + several women.>A genetic study published in Genome Research suggests that around 8,000 years ago, a major cultural shift resulted in a severe bottleneck in male genetic diversity, where for every 17 reproducing women, only one man was reproducing. This finding indicates a dramatic decrease in the number of men passing on their Y chromosome, rather than a mass extinction eventSpermatozoa are far more disposable than eggs. Women also always know when the offspring is theirs, men do not. Women get pregnant and "lose" 9 months, men do not. Men are meant to want to fuck any viable hole, women are far more seletive and will want the men with the best genetics (increasing the odds of having a sexually successful offspring) or the richest man that will support them with resources, aka female hypergamy.
>>84450678>do this>a society that doesn't do this destroys you and distributes the women
>>84450397I think he should roll over his investment in mid whores into 1 or 2 decent looking girls
>>84450418>monogamous societiesare the married men who cheat on their wives every other week, and post-prime women who only settled for a betabuxx after turning 30 when she couldn't fuck Chad, Thad or Brad every month anymore included in "monogamous"?
>>84450397This is how it has always been. Soldiers could get war brides but if you were just a common man you were expected to just use prostitutes. That said being rich was how you got multiple wives, the idea of "game" is a western feature.
>>84450419Typically that aggression was outward focused at other tribes, although if a powerful polygamist leader did get too arrogant and fell into hubris, younger men did kill him in a jealous rage. Lots of pre-colonial West African societies recognized the limitations on tribal leaders as being some magical force, and that if they were too excessive in their displays of power, they'd be brought down by the gods.Envy was a much more destabilizing force in the past. The reason you had sumptuary laws was actually to curb the feeling of envy in the poor.
>>84450397You guys ever think about how fucked human nature is for non-chads? chad is driven to spread his seed. women are driven to find the best chadsthat means every man wants to be chad, but not every man can be. Disease and war killed off most of these non-chads but nowadays what's a non-chad to do? women wont settle. they are designed not to. men will settle, because we couldnt spread our seed if we were as picky as women. there's no changing this. you cant debate out human nature. you cant negotiate attraction. women will never settle for non-chads, and chad will never commit (which is what all women want). no one except chad is truly happy with this arrangement
>>84450419>Why don't we all just get together and kill that guy?laws in functional modern civilizations exist to restrain male uprisings, low status males don't want to get jailed for killing the high status male.besides the high status male can have a single official hqnp woman while casually fucking many others on the side without having to make it official and end up being forced to share excessive resources with her later (e.g. alimony)
>>84450397bro all of them are so unbelievably mid. maybe i'm just not into beaners
>>844503971. Humans aren't a monolith2. Humans weren't "meant" for anything >>84450397This, Western civilization with it's system Western European marriage pattern has dominated the globe, of course now it's collapsing that it's loosened sexual restraints.>>84451736Historically Western civilization has had low rates of adultery, maybe not so much now but that's why it's going to shit anyhow.
>>84454247With it's Western European marriage pattern*
>>84450419That's exactly what happened. It was always Chad vs Chad leading groups of average men to kill and rape their enemy tribe.
We were But most polygynous societies aren't doing great desu (ex :- Sub Saharan Africa)
>>84450418The overwhelming majority of men (95%) are completely mediocre and thus largely unattractive and basically invisible to women. In a monogamous "patriarchal" system they still get mates and get to reproduce and have a family through the repression of female mate choice, but it means they have to GRIND hard to 1) gain the approval of her father who makes her mate choices for her and wants the best possible (within reason) provider for his daughter and 2) to support their family because every man is responsible for his family.In a polygynous system that permits female mate choice, females completely ignore 95% of males because there's nothing special about them and all of them flock to high attractiveness high status Chads while the common cattle males are completely disenfranchised and have nothing to work for or to motivate them. The cost for childrearing in this scenario is also communalized since Chad has to funnel resources from the produce of the mediocre men to care for his harem and their offspring, but it's not nearly as efficient as betas providing for their families on their own with a 1:1 pairing so it puts a hard cap on max population growth.The monogamous societies therefore had the majority of their men working their asses off and strongly motivated (good for war) because they actually had a stake in society and families to care for, while in polygynous societies most men didn't care about much other than provisioning for their own immediate needs and whatever extortion Chad was going to scalp from them. Makes sense then that through sheer numbers monogamous betabuxx-loving societies completely raped polygynous societies at every turn. It isn't even close in terms of power as an overall social unit.
>>84454201Yeah, I second you on that one.As for the post, on the contrary, I believe humans are naturally monogamous with some outliers here and there. Historically mostly ruling class,rich people and some tribals had more than 1 partner, which makes sense since they were the most deprived people of society, just like they are now.
>>84454675Chad doesnt care for his harem, they are just fuck slaves
>>84454764It's true that he doesn't care about them as individuals per se but he still historically had to materially provide for them because all labor was physical back then and women aren't very good at that because they're physically weaker + preggers foids can't hit the fields for 10h straight or hunt an ibex. These considerations don't matter in the modern day though which is why we have hyper hypergamy and it's facilitated by modern dating apps to make it even worse. Singleness and virginity are at all time highs because of this and they'll only get worse :3
>>84450397I'd rather be with no woman than this tattooed trash
>>84450397>women would rather share a ChadIs this why they throw a hissy fit when husbands adultery is unveiled and demand a divorce?
>>84450678>>A genetic study published in Genome Research suggests that around 8,000 years ago, a major cultural shift resulted in a severe bottleneck in male genetic diversity, where for every 17 reproducing women, only one man was reproducingThat was one time event according to this study and it ended before recorded history. Aka when real civilisation started.
>>84453226>Disease and war killed off most of these non-chads but nowadays what's a non-chad to do?Historically it's Chad's who died the most in European wars. War in general was very elitist and trade of the rich.You project WWI concription on the past.
>>84450397Only like 3 of these women are kind of cute.
>>84454835>be average foid>settle for a betabuxx that she doesn't really care about after she's past "her fun years" and Chad doesn't pay attention to her anymore>finds out betabuxx is wasting their ("her") resources with another woman >demand a divorce, so she can get a good deal of his resources (community property, alimony) while getting rid of him, win-win scenario Unlike men, women are highly likely to forgive or ignore extramarital affairs. The higher the social status or handsomeness of the man, the higher the odds she will suck it up. If her cheating husband remains socially powerful and still provides everything she demands, >90% chances she will not break up with him.
Don't cars: monogamy benefits mid schlubs like me who couldn't amass a harem.
>>84455972>monogamy benefits mid schlubsExactly why it works, the average invisible man according to women (up to 80% of men would be invisible to women) has reasons to keep working hard, since he would still get a mate and get to reproduce and have a family through the repression of female mate choice (80% of them want the top 20% of men and under a different system, most would willingly share the top 20% over settling for common men)In a society where the elites want internal stability (no uprising) and to make money (same reason wageslavery mostly replaced regular slavery, a paid worker is potentially more efficient and productive, due to the "incentive" effect of wages), monogamy was a genius move. it's not like the high status man or the Chad needs an official harem anyway, they can always choose their mates, one to be the official one and get others on the side
