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It seems like women just decide to hate men pre-determined.
Even if they don't hate men, they all seem incapable of just being loving and respectful of a man who is kind to them.
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>>84451388
It comes down to what actually makes someone become a good person, and in my thorough experience, it is one thing and one thing only; genuine motivation to change brought on by a desire for something, or a desire to keep something.

Women have for an extremely long time now been the ones to actually dictate when and how any kind of relationship starts. The average woman is absolutely flooded by options and yet she gets final say at all times. The fear of not being able to get a relationship is almost entirely nonexistent.

From there, we see how modern feminism has been corrupted - because anyone with even an inkling of knowledge of feminist movements in the past should know how against bio essentialism they were. These modern strains paint women as a permanent victim class, deny any and all social power they possess, and maintain the position that women are the ones who need - deserve, even - to get specialized treatment. At the same time, the demonization of men is near constant, with there never being any real consensus on what the actual problems are, no real methodology for a man to "prove" himself, and constant bad faith public speech bookended by "doth protest too much" claims whenever any man would point out the shittiness of their actions or rhetoric. All of this convinces women that they deserve the world and men can offer nothing. This removes any motivation to try to "keep" anything. Women can and will discard good relationships for the most inane of reasons, with every single metric showcasing this tendency with basically nothing showcasing any actual decrease in how well men 'perform' in relationships. And, of course, nothing to point to women overperforming by comparison.

Anyways read this for a real blackpill. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-the-life-sciences/article/toward-individualistic-reproduction-solving-the-fertility-crisis-could-require-a-further-marginalization-of-men/F26A4750B666344157278B72CFC5D223
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>>84451388
Literally everything women say about "toxic men" is just projection. Women are worse than men in every conceivable aspect, yet they're so delusional that they believe themselves to be infallible.
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They still think the patriarchy is a thing even though it hasn't existed for like 50 years if at all.
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>>84451658
it's also because non toxic men literally do not even register as men to them.
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Any Foids care to provide an answer?
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>>84451388
I'm not nice to anyone and I hope all of you die
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>>84451852
That's fine, that just means you are equally kind to everyone.
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>>84451388
>Why us it so hard for women to be nice to men?

Do you even read what's posted on this site regularly? or in the internet in general?
If anything, it proves to me how vile men can be when they want to
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>>84451966
women post extreme misandrist pure unadulterated man hate all over social media and are encouraged to do so. so go fuck yourself and go back to instagram
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>>84451966
>>84451990
The most active and angry misogynist spaces do not compare to the sheer volume of misandry online. The most popular female pop singer in the world has multiple songs about men, even the hot and attractive ones, being subhuman. The most popular film for women, based on Jewish toys, is about men being useless, evil, and controlling.

Pointing this out just gets you mocked for even noticing.
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>>84451990
/b/ is full of pics of women, some even close to op who don't know they are being posted, not even talked about the nudes where men here fantasize with the things they would do.
/r9k/ is basically "Women are sluts who only pics Chad", and you are angry because a woman post "I don't really trust men" on X. Go fuck yourself and keep crying while using the most misogynistic site created in the history of internet.
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>>84452021
go shake your ass and blog about it on instagram
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>>84452040
bodied that whore kek
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>>84452040
Easy money, keep jerking to cuck porn retard
>>84452049
nice try samefag
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>>84452059
stop thinking about my penis it makes me feel uncomfortable fucking pervert
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>>84451966
What someone reads on an anonymous forum that is known for being shocking and edgy is not a reason to take it out on IRL men, especially the ones who are kind to them in real life.
>>84452014
As true as this is, mens version of dealing with this has been withdrawal and refusal to help women rather than hate.
>>84452021
And those women can contact 4chan and get that taken down and contact authorities.
Again, your argument makes no sense
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>>84452059
dont come to the most misogynistic website ever if u dont want to be bodied, u misandrist future wine aunt
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>>84451388
men sculpted women's body and personalty through evolutionary history so guys have what they want, the reverse isn't true.

women can only be in men after enough psy-oping and fantasymaxxing, it's not very natural
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>>84452080
You were posting the same shitty AI pics on a thread op was talking about his rape and mocking him, if anything it proves men ARE like that and just hide it IRL
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>>84452097
what are women like irl when i see misandrist comment in milquetoast places like reddit, X, tiktok and the youtube comment section
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>>84452097
idk i think youre here because you have a crush on us its so cute
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make beans not gender wars
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>>84451966
As evidenced by the replies we can keep arguing over who's more hateful with anecdotes or we can simply look at the statistics which prove that women are more hateful, debunked.
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>>84452097
>Sees meme
OMG THIS IS WHO YOU ARE IRL AND IS JUSTIFICATION TO #KILLALLMEN
again, if held to your own standards men should be banding together, imprisoning and raping the women who are attractive and killing the ones who aren't due to a twitter hashtag being a threat to our existence.
Luckily men aren't retarded so we don't do that and don't blame all women for the actions of a few annoying women.
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Yet women seem incapable of the same.
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>>84452108
Women go along to get along. They see a woman spewing man hate they either join in or go silent.
They will NEVER stick up for someone if they feel the group is against it.
At best you will get silence.
That's it.
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>>84451471
Very high effort post with a nice study too. Wish we'd see more posts like yours but seeing as you've been mostly ignored while the tranny baiters ITT get 5 (You)s per comment it makes sense why people don't try anymore here
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>>84452327
Caring about anything on any deeper level is a faux pas. If it wasn't met with active hostility I would've never ended up here. Really I'm just too petty to give it up because I spent years around some of the most terminally online feminists and realized the depths of their hypocrisy and how little they actually respected anyone who ever did what they claimed was worthy of respect. If I was less of a petty shithead and could better ignore how most people are retarded I would probably be better off but I resent the fact I have to not care to get anywhere in life.
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>>84451658
It's the apex fallacy, women date abusechads and then blame non-Chad men for what abusechads did.
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>>84453455
No one ever asks women the truth, what did she do that made a man that loved her want to beat her and has she apologized for doing it?
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>>84451388
Aww sweet. Another reason to validate my choice of just gooning and instead of pursuing relationships.
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>>84451966
And every single one deserved it.
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>>84453669
And let's be honest, they probably wanted it.
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>>84451388
Women are just evil at heart. They are all selfish demons. Men hating women is a valid stance. Women are horrible.
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>>84451388
They don't actually hate men, well they don't have a good reason anyway.

They're deeply resentful that they were born the incompetent gender that can't make decisions, can't feel true satisfaction, and needs to be pampered and catered to around the clock or they throw a fit.

They want to make your life as chaotic and emotionally driven as their life is, any way they can. They don't actually care what happens to you, they just want to spread their misery so they aren't so resentful when they see a man building a fence or whatever and getting a feeling of genuine satisfaction.
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>>84451388
>It seems like women just decide to hate men pre-determined.
Truth. It's baked into their misandrist feminism, that mutates for each generation.
>Even if they don't hate men, they all seem incapable of just being loving and respectful of a man who is kind to them.
Indeed. They just want abuse Chads. Thanks to fuck apps and socual media, the rest of men are less than nothing to them. Cunts.
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>>84451388
I's say it's also the fact female spaces on the web completely fail the bechdel test compared to dudes who can talk about a vast amount of topics without bringing them up(notably video games). So for them its like every social media platform is a female-oriented /r9k/
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Moids:
>Beat us, kill us, rape us
>Hate us and mock us everywhere we go
>Kept as slaves and treated us as less than for centuries
And one day for no reason at all, women started hating men
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>>84451388
it's almost like the media, education system, and government has been teaching girls to hate men since childhood.
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>>84455370
how many men have beat, killed, and raped you?
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>>84455370
*rides you and fires liquid shit over your balls*
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>>84451388
Women have more to lose. A bad relationship for a man can mean a broken heart or humiliation at worst. A bad relationship for a woman can be life threatening. Gender animosity will always exist because of that. None of it is really serious if you are relatively well adjusted. Abusers can get past the filter, it's not that hard.
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>>84451388
This is what happens when women are given rights. They have envy and contempt that they hold over men with their conniving and manipulative fingers
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>>84455435

Woman can claim you raped her with zero proof and ruin your life. Women can and have killed their partners.
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Why would I want to be nice to men when being mean to them is so much fun?
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Why should I be "kind" to the sex where half of you want to rape me, 1/4 want to kill me, and the other 1/4 would watch it happen. Fuck you niggas I'm only nice to my bf. Even my brothers can eat shit. You want kindness go get a wife or make a male friend. Ugly
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>>84455435
For real check out "when women refuse" it's a collection of men brutalizing us for not wanting to go on a date or wanting to break up. Just last week a teenage girl got curbstomped for turning down a black guy asking her out. Nobody intervened
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Men disappoint women way too early
Often times it's as early as 4 year old if it's the father
but if father happens to be OK, she will be disappointed in me by the time she hits 12. Way before any romance or such.
The problem is, men are only good to those they want to fuck or otherwise benefit from. In the rest of their lives they are terrible people. Sure they can be excellent simps, but majority of humans around will only ever see the man be horrible. There are no men that are nice and kind as per character, those traits are only tools of seducing for them. What is there to respect?
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>>84455532
And men yell at us for having daddy issues when they plain as day hate their daughters. All the daddy daughter propaganda in media is to gaslight women that we are the reason our dads were neglectful
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>>84455532
>>84455544

>Man disappoints me
>I hate men
Women- This is ok

>Woman disappoints me
>I hate women
Women- this is not ok

Women make it so easy to hate them.
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>>84455479
Ignoring reality won't change anything. That is pure cope to get a victim narrative going
>>84455494
It will always surprise me how incredibly bad at judging character women are. Men are better at it. They are aware when they get together with someone crazy and just don't care.
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>>84455544
Incel levels of narrativising for the sake of victimisation. Are you sure you are not men playing a character?
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>>84455562
Women hate men and avoid them, men hate women and do everything in their power to abuse us. I wish mgtow was real but you just can't stay the fuck away from us. Men are addicted to female validation. It's why when women try to go off and start their own things you throw mantrums and destroy it or infiltrate
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>>84455532
It compounds with the fact that men also, as they grow up, tend to be "nice" and submissive with the most horrible types of people. They will kiss the asscheecks of baby murderer CEO because it personally benefits them(or even not, as evidenced by Trump) and call themselves a "decent person" because they work meanwhile spitting on genuinely poor and unfortunate exploited people for being losers.
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>>84455590
>Retard discovers how modern hierarchy works.
>Makes it about men somehow.
I hate when retards fail at basic leftist thinking
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>>84455370
>Pretends to live in Somalia to win an internet argument award.

0/10
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>>84455575
>Men are addicted to female validation. It's why when women try to go off and start their own things you throw mantrums and destroy it or infiltrate

Its so funny to say this because in reality its the opposite. Interesting how you are trying to gaslight everyone here.
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>Islam was right #324873
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>>84455662
it's so funny you imply men don't do it too. Both of you are retards. This website is full of cattle
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>>84451388
All men are part of The Patriarchy. It's an Original Sin and there is no way to atone.
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>>84455681
Oh boy a centrist we were all waiting with baited breath for your sharp opinion. Such courage
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>>84451966
Do you ever OBSERVE what women DO to society?
>wahhh wahh mean words
When men talk back and complain about society being destoyed, you use that to justify destroying society further.
it's called DARVO
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>>84455532
>Men disappoint women way too early
This is it. if you look at the graph and look up how many women get sexually assaulted then you have your answer, it's almost the same amount and apparently a lot of them grow charitable enough to forgive men as they grow older.
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>>84455686
Oh forgive me. I forget modern discussions are about coming up with increasing niche and retarded positions to make yourself feel interesting.
>>84455702
This comment proves why it's completely justified to discard most male complaints about gender. There are plenty of things to complain about, but the intelligent men understood that it wasn't cool to voice them and the retards are too retarded to identify them. So what that filter leaves is shit like this
>>84455707
What the fuck does disappoint even mean here. You are so weird about your parents
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>>84455370
women tell us who they are every day. proudly.
begone. go read your "spicy books" and shake your tits on Tiktok. you have nothing useful to add to the discussion.
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>>84455717
>What the fuck does disappoint even mean here
I quoted another anon, I'm assuming they meant abuse.
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>>84455717
Yeah my mistake I should just be a mental midget conflict avoiding pussy afraid of wrongthink
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>>84455488
nobody gives a shit about you to do any of that. you are the biological equivalent of TV static.
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>>84455733
I am not a centrist politically lmao. It's just a result of how reality works. Independent of gender. People lacking in confidence will seek it from the other sex.
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>>84455737
>>84455733
I hate you retards. How old are you? I suspect that there's a generation of kids that have been completely mindraped by wojak memes.
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>>84455717
>the intelligent men understood that it wasn't cool to voice them
oh right, how could we forget that your requirement for "coolness" is when men shut up and continue eating shit for your benefit and comfort.
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>>84455748
You literally think like a zoomer. I miss when they would just say "kys" now it's "everybody that disagrees with me is trolling/a tranny/a kid" Imagine being too lazy to engage on a messageboard. Just go stare at the wall then
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>>84455752
I'm a man lol. I think it's obvious that men complaining about this kinds of things is seen as whining. Even by other men. This is not value judgement on my part. Smart men notice this things and play into them. Retards don't, but retards are too dumb to come up with proper criticisms
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>>84455753
I think you are a kid because you shared your shitty instagrame meme drawings. It's fucking embarrassing to think
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>>84455778
Wojak originated here dork
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>>84455790
And? It's embarrassing. Just like the frog posters.
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>>84455793
You hate pepe? Fuck out of my face
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>>84455488
laughable overestimate, stop reading true crime
>>84455435
>>84455494
murder is vanishingly rare and targets men more than women
why can't foids learn basic statistics?
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>>84455843
Murder in what sense? As a result of relationships it isnt. Are you dumb or just pretending not to notice why what you say is evidently retarded?
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>>84455843
I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. No benefit to me giving scrotes the benefit of the doubt. What is the worst case scenario, a "non aggressive" scrote gets his feelings hurt? What the fuck is wrong with THAT? So what? My safety is more important than a scrote's feelings. I am sick of men getting mad at us for locking our car doors when you walk by us, clutching our purses closer, changing directions. You get mad WHAT SHE THINKS I'M A RAPIST!? Yes, we do. You aren't correcting creeps so we have to protect ourselves. Get over it. You aren't being discriminated against for us having caution.
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>>84455843
because they enjoy being the way they are
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>>84456245
Explain who overall murder statistics are relevant to the discussion
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>>84451388
Once again the entire "incel" problem was just women being women.
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>>84456363
they ruin the victim complex you've based your entire personality around
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>>84451388
Women cant fathom unconditional kindness in general
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>>84456417
How so? I don't see what they have to do with it.
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>>84456450
no one wants to kill you, foid
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some kind of instinctual hen-pecking that's supposed to make men "man up". The problem is they have pushed too far, and men literally cannot meet their impossible demands anymore.
We're a long long way from "bring me some food and animal skins, and you're in".
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>>84455611
It is not modern hierarachy. That is how it have been since before the babylon. Men get allured by gigachad and become his murder and building slaves while the gigachad laughs. And they laugh together with him as he drowns his children before him (this is jab at taliban supporters whose children get acked and imprisoned for minor offenses). Women were out of this whole system, and to large extent still are, as you can see there are basically no female millinaire/billionaires who would be notorious for their abuse over peasants. They live silent, humble lives away from everybody if they can afford that, while men when given money will just try to extract even more and more till the whole world turns into desert.
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>>84451471
they literally throw it back in the face of any man who claims to be "nice", or not like the others. They've been doing that for decades.
We're fully at the point where men have just said "fuck it, I'm going to be me and you can take me or leave me", and they don't want that either.
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>>84455590
>dude get a job
>no, not like that
You're going to have to decide if you want the poor man with principles or the ass kisser with money, because that's how the world works.
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>>84456488
Women encourage men to follow the murderchad by rewarding them with sex for following the murderchad.
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>>84456460
Im not a woman sorry. Overall crime statistics mean nothing because men engage in crime and tend to scalate conflict more than women. A soldier is more likely to get killed than a civilian does that mean the soldier is also more likely to be abused by their partner? It's retarded.
>>84456488
Absolutely retarded. Everyone in this society has to suck up to the top dog. Otherwise you dont get the crumbs.
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>>84456494
Exactly. There is no winning. There is constant claims that you can simply succeed as a man on the dating market by just being nice. But every single piece of evidence points to the contrary. And personal experience has shown that even if you immerse yourself in 'progressive' ideology, most of them are larping their own beliefs - "rules for thee but not for me". And even if you ignore THAT and simp, you won't get anywhere.

It's overwhelmingly evident that womens dating preferences are extremely shallow. Everything points to it. Strength of character is not a real factor. Getting 'chosen' while being unconventionally attractive is extraordinarily rare and the "attraction" is almost always based on something not immediately apparent but just as shallow, like money. Relationships that don't have this are so extremely rare that they're the exceptions that prove the rule. Women in general have a clear tendency for their attraction to be based off archetypes. It isn't "I like this guy for him", it's "I like this guy because him being attracted to me would feel like a dynamic I romanticize".

I am not as explicitly misogynistic as most people around here would be, but a woman worth dating is just objectively not something the average guy will ever interact with. There just isn't any pressure on women to not be extraordinarily shallow.
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>>84456538
I also can confirm women only pay attention to me online when I let slip that I'm tall.
I can be friendly, supportive, and funny all day, and they don't give a shit.
It's wild how you only have to say something like "i was a foot taller than the other kids in my class", and they suddenly activate (they don't know I have autism and no job at this point).
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>>84456552
Yep. I played armchair therapist for random people for years out of a sense of moral obligation. I was really good at talking people out of their spirals or suicidal ideation. Genuinely saved multiple lives. I've gotten a ton of random compliments on my communication skills, I'm objectively smart, I used to align with a lot of the popular progressive beliefs, I've been told I can be pretty funny, etc etc. I can count the number of women who have shown actual interest on 1 hand. I'm not even ugly. I'm not even short. I'm very average, and that means I don't exist. The parts of me that should draw women in are explicitly my personality - and all I get are vague compliments, platitudes about how I "deserve" this or that, but no one who actually gives a shit about me beyond what I can immediately offer them in terms of emotional comfort or sagely advice.

But if I was 6'0 or I got ripped or I was more naturally handsome I would experience the same shit you mentioned.

If humanity doesn't self destruct, and ever improves, the psyop that is the claim that men are the more shallow ones who only care about looks will be a massive black mark on how we view current era gender relations.
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>>84456628
>If humanity doesn't self destruct, and ever improves, the psyop that is the claim that men are the more shallow ones who only care about looks will be a massive black mark on how we view current era gender relations.

arent there verses in the bible that describe how women will crawl through lakes of fire to fuck evil beasts? im not religious at all but ya know they were kind of right about women and their sexuality
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Women need some time to forgive men, the problem is that men no longer seem to be penitent which complicates things.
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>>84455733
If you can't hold views from both ends of the political spectrum then you are slow, you don't have to be 100% left or 100% right.
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>>84456652
yo numbnuts, have we taken a second to look in a mirror for once in our lives?
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>>84456773
Forgive men for what? Building the entire world, and largely doing it for female benefit?
Men have always simped for women, and women have always felt like they deserved more. It's our entire dynamic.
When we're kids, girls get stories about princesses, and boys get stories about humble farm hands and soldiers. These are the roles we identify with, on a deep instinctual level.
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>>84456984
>Forgive men for what?
I don't think you're ever going to get it.
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>>84451388
Reality is a lot more skewed than that. There's probably an equal amount of hatred, and somewhere like 80-90 of young men hating 99% of young women, just as the inverse is true. It doesn't help that women are toxic and intolerable unless they find you attractive. If they find you attractive then that's not enough, it boils down to whether they have a boyfriend or not, and if they do then they simply are intolerable to be around unless you are their boyfriend or you are for some reason Chad enough and lucky enough to get her to cheat on that guy.
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>>84457011
I get that you're always just going to think you deserve more, no matter what is handed to you, because women are like that
>dude, I want food and a cave to live in
>dude, I want a house, and someone to protect me from predators
>dude, I want you to work and bring home money, while I stay here and sweep floors
>dude, I want rights. I want to have my own job, I want to wear men's clothes just because I feel like I ought to
>dude, I want to get a divorce, but still have a percentage of my husband's assets
>dude, I want to run the business, I want to run institution, I want to run the government and the country
>dude, I just don't want you to talk to me, I don't want you to disagree with me, I don't want to feel uncomfortable ever
you've been given it all, every step of the way, and men are still (shockingly) giving you more things.
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>>84451658
Yes, to a level people don't even realize.
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>>84451471
Did I read this right? This argues we should give women more shit, for them to realize that being material is pointless and want children?

Yeah not going to happen.
Women are too vapid and stupid to realize that. It will just accelerate their own demise. I've spoken to too many women to see how far more easily propagandized they are. They will kill themselves.

There's only one way. No more voting rights for women. Have them be equal in the eyes of the law to a dog. I am not advocating for any violence or anything, just they are too stupid for their own good and women can still be good mothers and household keepers.
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>>84457310
>Did I read this right? This argues we should give women more shit, for them to realize that being material is pointless and want children?
No it's saying we should give women the resources to be able to be single parents and cut out men entirely. I don't really care to engage with the rest of the post though. I don't subscribe to that kind of thought but not like I have any better suggestions that are actually feasible.
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>>84457385
>No it's saying we should give women the resources to be able to be single parents and cut out men entirely.
Welcome to the endgame of female communism, this is what women wanted all along. Access to male labor, access to resources without having to tolerate male partners.

Everything women do in the way of self-improvement is an active effort to distance themselves from men.
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>>84457445
Yep. All the data shows the result of "girlboss" culture is a lot of, well, nothing. It all just goes to themselves. No desire to start a family like men do when they get money. I just don't really know how they think that will end. A society with no social attachments at all that just views procreation as an unfortunate necessity or something to do as a hobby is never going to be sustainable.
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>>84457468
women wipe their ass with the future of soiciety
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>>84455773
>NOOO YOU CANT TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS ITS UNCOOL BRO
kys
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>>84457478
im kinda pondering the aroma of future society
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>>84455843
>stop reading true crime
w*men love true crime shit and masturbate to it. they love being choked and slapped and fucked roughly.
they read smut and goon to being sex slaves
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>>84457532
just sit down next to the ganges and breathe deep, that's how it's going to smell everywhere
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>>84457076
they are irrevocably spoiled and deserve far less. enjoy the decline, bro.
the world is healing, and healing is painful
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>>84457445
All you would have to do to change this is the following:
>Make all promotions and hiring merrit based
>Abolish all subsidies and tax credits for women
>Default all custody judgements to men citing the studies showing better outcomes for the child.
>Abolish Alimony for women
>Abolish Title 9 paying for womens sports
>Abolish all tax incentives for hiring women based on gender discrimination.
>Require evidence for all claims of harassment and consequences if a woman is caught lying.
It's easy to do and best of all you can do it based on gender equality.
Women will still have access to male spaces, they just need to meet male standards.
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>>84457673
>All you would have to do to is change gender dynamics from the ground up
sounds reassuring
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>>84451388
And Trad cucks wonder why no one is having children anymore lol.
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>>84455435
>A bad relationship for a woman can be life threatening
Nigga, men's lives are ruined all the time thanks to divorce rapes and false accusations. Are these not life threatening?
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>>84457701
No. Not change the dynamics, change government enforcement and subsidizing of womens fantasies.
After that companies and women are forced to rely on their own abilities to get by in life.
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I got lectured and screamed at in Discord because i made a light hearted gender joke, big fucking mistake. You're straight up not allowed to make jokes anymore, everyone goes mole hill to mountain instantly and you get "cancelled".
Men can make jokes to each other but you can only joke with very specific women, like home girl type bitches.
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>>84458069
>change government enforcement and subsidizing of womens fantasies.
just that?
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>>84455494
>black
funny that women can assume all men are like that despite there being a clear propensity when it comes to a particular group of men whereas if we even generalize a little bit we're pure evil abusers who want to torture women or something
you can't win can you
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>>84451388
Foids are livestock
heh
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>>84456460
>no one wants to kill you, foid
Technically false; niggers want to kill her for being White and will rape and murder tens of thousands of them each year, every year, and have done so every year for decades.

Then the foid cries that White men are racist and will actively vote and push for policies that will bring millions more niggers into their countries to rape them, only to cry about the increase in rape being White men's fault.

... and technically, according to the Tamud, it is White men's fault. Everything is the White man's fault. It is your fault for being weak goyim who allowed it to happen instead of slapping stupid bitches and removing jews from your society. According to the Talmud, it does not matter who destroys your nation and poisons your people when you simply allow it to happen. They are not at fault for doing what comes natural to a disease; you are at fault for doing nothing to stop it.

As the one who's supposed to be the protector, Whites have failed utterly. As their civilizations crumble and women who exist as nothing but vessels to breed stronger men, they do not care who conquers them. They simply demand to be conquered. Since Whites refuse to keep them in line women are perfectly happy to be raped and kept as trophies by african warlords, because at least that is a strong leader that will protect them from warring tribes. Just like they have through all of recorded history.
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>>84458308
All men are niggers shut the fuck up
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>>84458357
>nooooo it's nignogs who commit 90% of crime against women but all men are evil, especially white men... BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE OK
inb4 "not misandrist, just heckin' empowered"
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>>84458363
The only guy to sexually assault me was white
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>>84451388
>>84457445
>>84452247
Being a heterosexual man is a punishment. Women don't even like men. Meanwhile homosexual men are literally called gays because of how happy they are. Why do you think homos are so gay and happy lol
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>>84458373
Anecdote + trauma response + you're a man with a hairy arsehole lol
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>>84451658
Which sex is more likely to be violent and rapists? Women have every right to hate men desu.
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>>84458363
Copium
>>84458373
Very true
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>>84458389
Cases I know of
>our married hs history teacher with 3 kids fucked my friend in her jr and sr year of hs
>choir teacher raped my cousin and won a lawsuit of thousands of dollars from the schoolboard in court
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>>84458388
A black woman is more likely to commit murder than a white man.
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please learn how to read graphs /r9k/
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i'm nice to men. the only ones i deliberately and knowingly ignore are immigrants/non-natives who try to come up to me to talk to me (except if he's asian then i make sure to smile etc.)
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>>84458457
would you ever say you had a negative opinion of them
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>>84452040
proved her point btw
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>>84452091
>bodied
annihilates moid kek
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>>84458389
>source: i made it the fuck up
>>84458401
Nice anecdotes, too bad statistically that isn't true according to basic FBI crime data
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>>84458530
The shit doesn't really show up. The thing with my cousin didn't make the news for her privacy, obviously
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>>84458482
online i would only say bad things in general because men generally only say bad things about women. but irl i'm chill with men.
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>>84458574
That's interesting thanks for sharing
I'm a man but pretty misandrist so I think that's how it should be
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misanthropic men > normal men > ""misandrist"" men
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>>84458614
how do you not end up hating men more than any other group?
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>>84458620
I dislike everyone equally
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>>84458620
I am misanthropic but straight and still want a relationship. Openly shitting on men is pointless beyond virtue signaling unless I am complaining about a specific man and a specific issue. I openly complain about women because I am forced to play retarded games that also require much more vulnerability that is inevitably always turned against me in order to get anywhere with them. I also just hate hypocrisy more than anything and for whatever reason women are far more likely to say one thing and do another - if a guy is a shit head he usually doesn't even try to hide it, especially from other men.
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>>84451388
Because they're smaller than us, weaker than us, they get pregnant, it lasts around 9 months, and takes even longer to raise the child (if they choose to), while a man can impregnate dozens of women a day and get lost.

This, in a nutshell, pretty much explains all female behavior, including various stages of feminism. But of course, to accept this you'd have to also accept some amount of bioessentialism, and thus feminism has at this point begun to eat itself from the inside.
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>>84458499
good, shes the one posting in a place she calls misogynistic. im not going to feminist man hate places of the internet and calling them out on their bullshit because they dont care and dont want me there
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>>84458684
Yep seems like 99% of men who complain about women being wary or flaky around men just don't realize (or remember?) this fact.
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>>84458684
>>84458731
You do realize birth control exists, right?
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>>84458684
oh so its napolean complex, like a Chihuahua barking at a dog 10x its size. Makes sense.
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>>84458731
People complain because they are aware of those traits but the way women tend to act, which is consistently backed up by empirical evidence, is not in line with THEM being aware of those traits. Being weaker and smaller on average and prone to becoming indisposed due to pregnancy does not explain the fact that socio and psychopathic tendencies have positive correlation with a guys ability to get sex or even full on relationships.
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>>84458770
You say that as if it's unexplained even though it's been proven multiple times psychopathic people are able to be more charming than regular people, it's an evolutionary advantage and the reason why psychopathy still exists.

And aren't you forgetting something? Men prefer psychopathic traits in women.
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>>84458817
Maybe it's a touch of the tism but psychopaths have been largely very easy to spot for me. I don't even feel that they do much to hide it most of the time. Picking out psychopathic women is harder but if I don't actually find those traits attractive so as soon as the mask slips it stops matter.
The big thing is a man, given the gendered differences outlined, is more equipped to deal with a woman who is psycho than a woman should be able to deal with a man who is. Men who are into them are also very explicit about it and don't try to dance around it. Women constantly complain that more men aren't caring and emotionally vulnerable and whatever else, but often still date psychos.

If we are going to try to look at things from the standpoint of "women are often weaker and more vulnerable and potentially have much more to lose because of this, so they need to be pickier" well, okay, doesn't work because they very obviously aren't being pickier and their excuses are nonsense each and every time. My ex cheated on me with a physically abusive pedophile that OPENLY talked about both wanting to fuck middle schoolers and enjoying being physically abusive. Part of her internal logic for why it was okay to cheat on me was that she was afraid I was going to physically hurt her. The only endpoint we can reach from here is that women are retarded and don't even know what they themselves want and that's really the worst position we could be in.
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>>84458907
This is strange I know a guy whose ex left him for a pedophile also.

But it is easily explained: mentally ill bad people attract other mentally ill bad people. They belong to each other.
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>>84458971
There's a bit of truth to this but it's not some magical force, it's about recognition of being able to get away with being an awful person with someone who's mentally ill and awful themselves. They find them more enticing because they get more leeway. Regardless the explanation of why doesn't offer anything about what should be done about it. Nor does it answer what I myself am supposed to do. I'm the one who's now single and upset about it. To the average person that just makes me a whiny incel. It doesn't matter that she is morally reprehensible and getting rewarded for it, nor does it matter that I did my best to be morally upstanding and got fucked over for it. In the eyes of the public I only have value if I slave away for their benefit or if I already had a bunch of good things.

The ultimate point is women will spend all day every day chastising men for not being kinder, not being more considerate, not "acknowledging their privilege's", not being more emotionally available, not this or that or whatever the fuck else people consider a moral virtue. But they have 0 interest in benefitting men who DO do those things, and a consistent vested interest in benefitting people who go against all of those things. Truly kind and caring women exist, who don't do dumb shit like that, but they're exceedingly rare, and when it comes to me specifically, I have never met one who shared any of my interests who didn't get a relationship basically right out of highschool that'll probably never get broken up unless the guy fuckin dies.

I did what I was "supposed" to do and got fuck all for it. I am both entirely justified and entirely RIGHT to point the stupidity of it all out.
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>>84455370
The only men women care about are the ones who hurt them.
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>>84458750
Doesn't matter. Still smaller and weaker. And anyways, my point is this is a matter of instincts. You can't socially reengineer millions of years of evolution. Although those birth control pills do tend to have all sorts of wild side effects...
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>>84451388
I mean I get why they are
Lead in rapes
Lead in assaults
Lead in all violent crimes
The only retort males could have to say is women killed 10 billion unborn fetuses by that's just semantics
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>>84458731
>Yep seems like 99% of men who complain about women being wary or flaky around men just don't realize (or remember?) this fact.

That's because women are too proud to admit this fact and would rather put up this disingenuous smokescreen about a patriarchal conspiracy when really just small and vulnerable, which isn't a social construct. That's a bare bones fact. If a man harms a woman, it won't be women who arrest him, it will be other men.
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>>84459341
Main retort is men are stronger and there's no reason to think if women were stronger it wouldn't be the opposite
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>>84459239
Its why men should never care or feel bad about hurting a woman, only make her appologize for making him do it!
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>>84459341
>lead in rapes
By a significantly smaller amount than people would want you to believe if you actually apply the rules to both sexes equally and consider 'forced to penetrate' as rape.
>lead in assaults
If we're talking domestic stuff, women commit a shit ton of aggravated assault that gets swept under the rug because "women are too weak to hurt men". Stemming from the rape stuff, sexual coercion through blackmail and threats of violence is also WAY more common for women to do to men. A study with an admittedly small sample size found over 90% of men involved had been subject to it from women.
>lead in all violent crimes
Sure, but every time this is brought up people ignore the fact that men also make up the vast majority of VICTIMS of violent crimes.

Women are way more prone to rape and just as prone to violence as men are, they just don't do it because they're on average physically weaker, and they often don't feel any real need to when if they want sex, or really anything, they can get it with minimal effort. Abortions are completely irrelevant.
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>>84459400
You just tried to justify it
>>84459423
Why didn't you just post the statistics and save yourself typing out all that fluff
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>>84459440
so i take it you really love extremely physically weak men right?
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>>84459440
It takes less time to write out how you're wrong than it would to try to dig up the studies which I don't keep on hand at all times to win internet arguments, and you're going to handwave it all anyway because you're ragebaiting or a retard trying to argue in bad faith with no awareness of reality, so why put extra effort in.
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Just post the statistics I'm not arguing with think pieces
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I believe the typical leftist feminist response is "it's not my job to educate you".
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>>84459440
>You just tried to justify it
And what?
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>>84459481
Trying to argue against a fact is certifiably and quantifiably stupid
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>>84459498
And yet it's the basis of almost all modern day social discourse, and reality is shaped by whoever has the talking stick. Even if I wanted to put the effort in to find my sources I would have to contend with how ensloppified googles search engine has become from AI which will undoubtedly spit out the same shit with false premises, double standards, and shoddy data collection that is typically cited.
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>>84459587
"Even if I wanted to put the effort in to find my sources "
Reveals he doesn't know
Keeps talking
Dunning -Kruger
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>>84459606
Calling dunning-kruger effect in an instance where it just shows you don't actually understand what the dunning-kruger effect actually means is very funny, good bit.
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>>84459632
The topic is why do women hate men
An objective fact of men being more violent is brought up
There's no more room for discussion their hatred is justified
And yet you still found something to try to rebuttal with
When asked to post the stats so we can talk about them you went off on some tanget about how that wasn't necessary you could feelings over my facts and when I pointed this out you got angry
Dunning krueger
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>>84459652
Even if that was what happened that isn't what the dunning-kruger effect is about lol.
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>>84459652
>An objective fact of men being more violent is brought up
>There's no more room for discussion their hatred is justified
No, it's a retarded argument for hate. Males of our species have been more violent since before we even had civilization. Since before we even became humans. Meaning, male violence is not a moral fault of men. It's a useful trait with negatives that has allowed humans to conquer the world and create excessive wealth women can enjoy. It's never been safer for ANY mammal than human females in first world countries. They are enjoying a utopia. Thanks to men. Bow down and suck it.



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