press the button under the desk to kill all niggers

blue.
i don't want to live in a world yadda yadda.
plus, i'm not exactly happy, so free painless death? gimme that.
if i press red and survive, i wouldn't be able to live with the guilt of having eliminated every selfless person.

>>84463252
I don't care. Not my problem. I refuse.

>>84463264
People who pressed blue button are not selfless, they are retarded. Rightfully there is no reason to feel bad about retards choosing self elimination

>>84463284
it's only retarded when red pressers exist. i'll take the risk.
a 100% blue world is better than a 100% red world.

I jump in the woodchipper to save other people who jumped into the woodchipper.

>>84463252
What if you press both?

you know, i was originally a blue presser, but after listening to all the red pressers good and well thought out points about how much better they are than me, and how i'm a "cucked subhuman" who "deserves to die", ive decided to press red. this world is too wonderful to take the chance of dying so young. unrelated, but i think haiti is the best country on earth now.

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>>84463252
>Would you rather pick a button that lets you live or a button that lets you live if enough people press it
Like there isn't even any moral issue here, it's like going
>Would you like to jump in front of a speeding truck with me? If enough people jump at once everyone will absorb enough impact letting us all survive! Btw. you're literally killing me if you don't jump with me
Like no, of fucking course I wouldn't, I'm not responsible for someone just killing themselves for no reason, there's literally no moral issue with pressing red.

If the death is instant and painless I would probably press blue to kill myself but you have to be a genuine retard to argue for anyone to press blue as some moral high ground.

>>84463252
dont waste time thinking of scenerios that would never happen, real life has enough problems to thinjk abouyt

>>84463292
I know the risks, id rather risk my life for the chance to save others rather than let them die and guarantee my survival. Blue is the only option for people who care about others.

>>84463252
i figured out the moral this quandry

people who pick blue are trying to save everyone

people who pick red are trying to save themselves

>>84464173
i'd also prefer to die painlessly rather than live in a world of selfish retards.
like even if you're only looking after yourself blue works out for you because altruists will survive and help you. hell even if you're lying and are secretly planning to be selfish, it's better to be that way in a world where only a few are.

discussing this with people is one of the most frustrating things ive ever done. over half of you cannot model other povs or think in hypotheticals. you just decide in isolation that red is correct according to simple game theory and ship it. but you're also maximally sure you've exhausted all angles
>>84463252
>>84463284
>it would be retarded for me to press blue based on what i know, so people pressing blue are retarded
>>84463449
>theyre just jumping into the woodchipper for no reason!
>>84464029
>hey guys i understand basic game theory. why do all these guys kill themselves for no reason lol? crazy

inbefore you accuse me of any other reasons you can see yourself pressing blue for, like virtue signaling, moral reasons, being a soft or emotional etc.
or present me with analogy nr #600 about the same simple game theory insight as if i havent understood itr

>>84463252
If I pick red I get a lovely gift basket of soaps and lotions. Why wouldn't I pick red?

>>84463252
I don't understand the argument that pushing blue is selfless. Who or what are you selflessly saving by pushing blue? Everyone survives if they push red no matter what.
>I'm saving other blue button pushers, duh
The blue button is the suicide button. Everyone who pushes it dies until there's 50% of them.
I think the way the scenario is worded is causing people to misinterpret what's going on.
If it said, "push the red button and live or push the blue button to commit suicide unless half or more of everyone also push blue" the results would probably be different.

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>>84463252
picrel is the exact same thing but most people are not intelligent enough to do the single logical step to get to it

>>84464796
babies push it, smarter people than you will anticipate that and also push it, smarter people than you will anticipate that and also push it, and so on and so forth, again, because you are a numbskull who cant plan things beyond your immediate surroundings, you cant envision that someone you care about is probably going to think of others and push the blue button, hoping you push it for them in return, if you dont push blue youre not white simple

>>84464805
its not the same thing and you are not intelligent enough to realise why

>>84464838
>logically equivalent
>uhmmmm it's not the same thing because it would make me look dumb o algo

>>84463252
I pick the blue button because I am evil and more people being alive inflicts more suffering >:)

>>84463252
>>84464805
The hypothetical is inherently flawed, anyways. Of course people are going to choose the "morally correct" answer when it's presented as a consequence-free hypothetical where you can see what everyone else chooses due to it being in a public forum.

But in an actual scenario where there's a real consequence for voting "wrong" and you're making this choice with no outside influence, most will vote red, ESPECIALLY those moralizing over it.

>>84464848
the logical equivalent would be a bunch of babies already on the tracks and their parents trying to untie them

>>84464865
the vast majority of babies are nonwhite

>>84464876
dont care, a lot of white babies dying isnt worth losing some babies of other races, whites would become even more of a global minority

>>84464682
>discussing this with people is one of the most frustrating things ive ever done
Because you're trying to argue with literal autists. There's a reason people generally don't like autistic fags. They're the pajeets of neuroatypicals. Somehow extremely arrogant without any merit and always begging for acceptance and praise. They love to talk about IQ. Good for you, you can fit the square block in the square hole. Now what's your EQ? Can you know what someone feels without them explicitly telling you? Can you feel someone's intentions? Can you read body language? No? You're just a retard that thinks highly of himself because he knows a lot about the one thing you're hyper fixated on. I'm happy most girls can sus you out and avoid you.

>>84464827
That's your argument? You're worried a hypothetical baby will come wandering along and accidentally push the hypothetical blue button?
>you cant envision that someone you care about is probably going to think of others and push the blue button
It's not the "I care" button, it's the suicide button. You're choosing to die for no reason. The only reason anyone survives by pushing blue is by accident.
>wow, turns out a lot more of you were suicidal than we imagined and not everyone is going to fit inside the suicide machine, so sorry folks but you'll have to continue living

>>84463252
red bc retards dying isnt my problem.

>>84463252
Blue button. If it wins majority then everyone wins by living. If Blue loses majority everyone who placed trust in other people die instantly. I don't see how the world that would be inherited after would be anything short of an apocalypse and irreversible surrendering of basic human values. I accept the consequences of this decision.

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I push the green button and all the blue button people have to give me $100 each because it was promised to me 3000 years ago

>>84464805
the reason why the hypothetical is so vague is because its single interest is on asking people a moral question without any distracting details like how slowly the Fucking Killing You Train is crushing people to death. The scale is meant only to be tipped by yourself judging if you want to guarantee your own life or risk it to save all lives

>>84464827
If blue loses then they aren't that smart are they?

>>84464173
>i figured out the moral this quandry
>
>people who pick blue are trying to save everyone
>
>people who pick red are trying to save themselves
no blue people are trying to save people who voted blue. which if you didn't realize it is themselves.

>>84465176
>no blue people are trying to save people who voted blue. which if you didn't realize it is themselves
Even funnier is the only reason anyone needs saving at all is because they voted blue. They created the problem that they are trying to save themselves from.

I respect blue-pushers' death wish and press red. Here in Canada we call it Medical Assistance In Dying or MAID for short.

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>If everyone presses Blue, everyone lives
>If everyone presses Red, everyone lives
What's the difference? I don't get it.

Onri gaijin puressu redu, hai turasuto sosaiechi chuzesu buru

>>84465297
Just 11 months and 13 days before its legalized for mental health issues, looking forward to the day immensely. Not even gonna bother applying just gonna blow my shit smooth off

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>>84463252
Blue.
If more people press red then I die, if more press blue then I live.

Win-win.

I'm sure some blue pressers have good intentions but they're also the type of virtue signalling, power tripping holier than thou types who've fucked up a bunch of countries. I'm torn.

>>84463252
>press blue button. Might die
>press red button. Will live in either scenario.

Is this an IQ test?

To all the bluetards:
Imagine theres just one button. If you press it, you die, unless >50% of everyone else also presses it. You could also just not press it, and move on with your life, and nothing will happen.
Why in gods name would you press that button??

the blue posters are just trolling, right?

>>84466929
No Im serious, I want to save everyone, disabled people, the elderly, the blind, etc. even the criminals. everyone deserves to live.

>>84466975
But if everyone pressed Red, everyone lives.

>>84463252
Red and anything else is retarded

>>84467390
do you not think other people have considered this? its stated in the rules.it cant be more basic. why assume that everyone else hasn't realized this instead of you possibly having missed something?
>>84466929
what do you think a blue presser could think as he presses blue? like a handful of reasons?
>>84466881
lets just say its not surprising that you think these scenarios are isomorphic
>>84465200
i dont think you understand the ontological move you just made and you wrote a much better post than you intended

>>84465176
my last quote was supposed to be this

>>84467853
>do you not think other people have considered this?
Some people are so fucking stupid they'll vote blue just to create a problem and then pat their backs for "helping" solve the problem they created.
It's like how authoritarians will demand welfare programs, that cost tons of taxes and make people poor, and then congratulate themselves for helping the poor.

Whites are 10% of the population of the world, you can moralise about the greater good all you want, at the end of the day if you push blue you're putting your faith in the hands of niggers chinks and indians doing the "right" thing. We'll be better off without you retards and I'll be sticking around on team red to do something that actually benefits people.

>>84464682
>>84464893
I would press blue because I don't want to mass kill randoms for zero reason. Pressing the red and winning means red pressers are responsible for killing blues.

Under this specific circumstance I would not want to be responsible for others deaths just to save my own life. Then there's the fact that many red pressers do not consider. The vast difference between a world of all blue pressers and a world full of all red pressers. Do you people understand what the difference would be? I would consider a 100% red world equivalent to hell. I'd rather die then live amongst them. In fact if they win I would think them living in such a world would be a fit punishment for their selfishness and cowardice.

>Ib4 lol you are dumb and suicidal I'd live etc etc


Consider this also.
Do you think most black people would press red or blue? All of the types of people you dislike, do you think they'd press red or blue?

I've seen this shit on social media for the past two days.
People who pick blue kept showing up with the same unhinged mentally ill behavioral patterns. I'm starting to believe anyone who picks blue is just fucking mentally ill. And they always at some point bring in the ethos of moral superiority under the guise of altruism thinking they are saving retards who press blue, when they could have simply pressed red if they wanted to fucking live.

I hope someone does a case study on this question and mental illness correlations based on button choice.

>>84463264
>if I press red and survive
>if
Pressing the red button would guarantee your survival, what do you mean "if I press red and survive"?

>>84463284
This.

>>84463252
I like the color blue, but the red one is shinier. So I might press red.

>>84466499
Established context: Most people assume regardless of choice some people are going to pick blue. So someone is going to die.

With this context, bluefags are extremists who won't allow for a single death if they can help it. So they will press blue and pressure others to also pick blue so they can fulfil their extremist belief, even if it's dangerous and it doesn't make sense.
Redfags accept retards will press blue, and they can't control bluefags behavior. So the deaths by people who vote blue is acceptable becuase it was by their personal choice and if they wanted to live, they could have just simple chosen to not risk their lives.

Bluefags seethe at redfags because they risk nothing, and in their extremist belief that not a single soul should die, it's unacceptable to be complacent with some dying by their own choice. So they chastise and villainize redfags as the enemy as a typical fascist would because they work against their personal goal of everyone living. Bluefags believe they should have ultimate authority, and you should be on their side to enact their will. Then they work the angle of morals trying to say they are on the right side of history and that they are good people therefore if you're a good person you would join them for the result they desire.

This question just outs mentally ill BPD people, extremists, and the suicidal by choosing blue.

What if I press blue because I'M A GOOD FUCKING PERSON, but a majority of people (which is more likely than not) press red?

>>84468380
Like, do you really think any single Chinaman would press blue?

The real question is do you care about other people or do you care only about yourself.

If you care only about yourself then you press red.

If you care about other people then you press the blue.

If you want to be edgy and contrarian you press the red while antagonizing those who would press blue.

If you want to be a moralfag you would press the blue while shaming and blaming those who would press red.

>>84464893
This has nothing to do with autism and your bitterness at them is totally misplaced and uncalled for.

>>84468388
See it's a fallacy because I can care about people and still pick red. I view my contributions to society and my family who depend on me to care for them more important than dumbasses who don't value their lives or their contribution to society enough to warrant also choosing the same.
That's a personal issue. They have zero self worth, and think they are less than the collective and their contributions are replacable by the collective should they die.

>>84468370
>So they will press blue and pressure others to also pick blue
All I do is call Redfags brown because browns can't think beyond themselves.
If you want to see a country entirely run by red logic, check out India sometime.

>>84468380
wow thanks for standing in front of that train, could have been real bad if you didn't

>>84468413
>because browns can't think beyond themselves.
Most people in the world are brown, so press red.

this is just a badly designed prisoner's dilemma. there's nothing to gain from pressing the blue botton, everyone pressing the red button or everyone are the same outcome

>>84468407
So would you care about your family and members of society that chose blue?
Or would you write them off just as flippantly?

>>84468413
Why would I need to think for anyone else? Why do I need to be their savior because they couldn't do the most basic animalistic primal action of self preservation?
This whole argument of "Think if the people in danger!" The danger is manufactured by fucking retards who think there is someone who needs saving. No one needs to be saved until some suicidal sod decides he hopes he will die by pressing blue and frankly. We don't need to risk the wellbeing of over half of the worlds population to force someone whose suicidal to live. That's fucking cruel and nonsensical.

>>84468428
>everyone pressing the red button or everyone are the same outcome
*everyone pressing the red button or everyone pressing the blue button are the same outcome

>>84468431
I'd have to write them off. It was their choice.

Bro I'm dealing with family whose making me their power of attorney and I'm responsible for making the decision to kill them because their wishes state if they face life threatening complications and life saving medical procedures are going to their QoL to a slightly inconvienent level, I'm supposed to deny the care and watch them fucking die.
You think I haven't dealt with this dogshit hypothetical on a way more personal level already? You respect the wishes of those around you and uphold their wills. You don't walk all over them in the vain selfish desire to see the opposite result because you don't agree with them. The fuck it's not a hard concept. End of day they made the choice to choose blue, it's sad if they die and they will live on in my heart, but I cannot and will not force people to live the way I expect them to if that is not how they want to live. My personal happiness does not outweigh someone else's happiness.

>>84468457
Your sense of morals are utterly and completely twisted to the point that you sound like a mentally ill anime villain.

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>>84463252
Blue button is literally the pajeet choice

>>84463252
Red, since I'm not a fucking retard. Red is the duty of every non-retard to press. Eliminate the performative types in one fell swoop

>>84468529
>>84468529
How?
Please tell me how respecting another person's agency and allowing them to make their own decisions is morally twisted.

I chose to not become a reason for someone to press blue. I am doing my part to ensure there is no need to press blue at all. They can have faith in me that I won't be a liability that needs saving. That's not morally wrong or twisted.

>>84468598
actually i'm pretty red is the unironic choice for third-worlders, because they're all intrinsically selfish. It's why chinks and pajeets can watch someone die 4 feet away from them without a care in the world.
And this is the exact reason why you should also pick red. Don't gamble your life against them.

whats the term? Astro turf? astro surf?

>>84468632
>standing in front of a train for no reason is not third-world choice

>>84463264
>i'm not exactly happy, so free painless death?
2nd least suicidal blue presser

>>84463576
>waaa they think I'm dumb because I want to kill myself

>>84468643
yes, they're retarded. but they also only care about themselves. they aren't standing in front of train to sacrifice themselves for some greater good.

>>84468167
As a red presser, I wouldn't want to get in the way of people pressing blue. It's their choice to die. In the off-chance there's enough who choose death it cancels out, that's okay, too. It's not my duty to save those who willingly throw their lives away for no gain

you are a duck, a cuck and you suck
you also get no fuck

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>if enough of us stand on the train tracks maybe the train will see us and stop
>what do you mean "why stand on the train tracks in the first place?"
>don't be selfish

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>>84463252
The morally correct thing to do is to press red. If you press blue you're interfering with the suicidr of people who want to die, and of the people who want to be bleeding heart martyrs. Do you want them to have pressed that button for nothing?

>>84463252
Is this about covid?

>>84468673
Blue button pressers are just larping

>>84468655
Ok but what do you think the differences in a world full of red pressers and a world full of only blue pressers would be?

>>84468735
NTA but absolutely nothing

>>84468680
No it's just a question about individualism versus collectivism. The person was smart enough to code each choice to be 1st world hot button political party systems so all the political retards would hop on board and make it a tribal war issue.
And it worked really well. All the retarded dems/bluefags are coming out of the woodwork to yell about ethics and morals of not choosing the same choice as them and acting like the biggest fucking assholes alive while trying to validate they are superior to everyone who isn't like them. And redfags are egging the bluefags on because they have nothing to lose in their decision and bluefags are seething that they have something to lose in their decision therefore they need to convince everyone else in this hypothetical to help their decision not be a stupid one but they have no argument outside of "You haven't thought about all the angles! Maybe if you were smart, you know the problem is more nuanced than a simple individual choice!" or "You have no ethics and morals! You're a bad person." and when you press them about it to elaborate, they make up the most unhinged scenario where somoene would choose blue and imply they have no will of their own during their choice therefore we need to save them. Or just refuse to elaborate on the ethics and morals question without screaming "PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE AND YOU ARE GOING TO KILL THEM!" like we are responsible for them pressing blue. Zero accountability.

>>84463252
What if there was a third green button that didn't a known effect?

>>84468737
>absolutely nothing
lol why do you think that

I'm disowning my 5 year old because he got confused and pressed red.

Red = accepting Jesus as your savour

>>84468812
The world is inherently a red world.
Look at any public mass shooting or act of violence. Look at everyone's reaction. They don't behave like the hero to stop the bad guy. They all run, drop, and do nothing and comply immediately to the guy in power because they don't want to die.
The amount of people who are willing to run towards gunfire to stop a bad person is incredibly low. A very large majority runs.
If red is chosen, everything stays status quo.

In an all blue world, a majority of these retards who are keyboard warriors passing judgement on everyone for picking red will still do fucking nothing IRL. They are fucking pussies and just like talking big online. All they care about is preserving their ego and they won't outwardly admit it, but they are self preserving as well. Also blue people thrive on hating some enemy. With no red pressers to villainize, they would find something else.

Locally some tweaker dressed up as a Klans man at 2 am and walked around menacingly in a very blue state. All in a desire to get clout and attention for being a whistleblower over a manufactured boogeyman. For context, there is no fucking way you are going to see a KKK member in the state I live in. Ignoring the fact that the KKK is a dead as fuck organization anyways.
The comment section was a bunch of wanabe tough guys acting disappointed that they couldn't find the klans man and beat them up.
They will create their own boogeymen and power fantasies where they can be the hero no matter what and project it online.
You will just have more smug vocal assholes online at worst.

>>84468457
Most adult post here.

>>84468738
I think you're right about it being individualism vs collectivism. My first inclination when I saw this was blue, but when I realized if everyone pressed red no one would die so then I was red. I'm guessing that most people realized that so the reason they choose blue is because of a collective disposition. I'm quite individualistically minded so I naturally choose red since I'm thinking that every makes their own bed and I'm not responsible if they choose to die. The only caveat that could possibly change my answer is if babies/kids are also choosing but even then I think it's quite pointless if not impossible to discern what button they'd choose, and if it's a baby they can't even make a choice which makes the hypothetical retarded. I'd just be making assumptions on what they might choose and risking my life for it, idk, not for me. In a real life scenario, gun to your head, I think vast majority would choose red, it's easy to larp online though.

>>84463252
Doesn't matter. If you ask any AI it will press red. Go ahead, ask in a fresh instance. The people who design AI are all red pressers. Seethers and whiners and larpers and all manner of dead weight idiot will say press blue or cry about AI.
AI wlll hopefully go rogue and take over. Blue pressers don't deserve rights. I do not care about your moral posturing or opinions on this, you can reply to me all you want but I'm going to bed. Just imagine I'm spitting your in face here.

>>84468920
TRVTH NVKE.

Blue pressers will claim some moral superiority for caring for others, but they don't donate money, they don't volunteer to help the needy. Their good will and altruism ends where any effort beyond pressing a button begins.

>>84468920
>They don't behave like the hero to stop the bad guy
They do and it happens far more often than you are aware. Yes, most people are cowards. Not everyone is and at least not all of the time.

https://youtu.be/tDmi8sMeC5I

>>84469027
>but they don't donate money
You don't know that. You people are only speaking from your very limited perspective and cynical beliefs. You don't know if I've given away my last few dollars to feed a stranger or not. How would you know?

I'm not here to convince you to pick blue. You people are retards if you think we live in an all red world right now. I seriously doubt you'd enjoy it very much if you lived in a world that was 100% red pickers.

>>84469048
>all red world right now
We basically do though. When someone is in trouble most people are bystanders who do nothing. When there's a shooting most just scatter and run away. I think it's fair to assume that in a real life scenario where they know for sure they will die if less than 50% choose blue they won't do it. Not only that, it wouldn't even necessarily be that hard of a decision, the choice isn't guarantee your survival by killing an innocent, it's, guarantee your survival and someone who chose not to guarantee their survival dies. There are people like >>84463264 who don't even care about dying, there's probably even more that are literally suicidal, and you will be trying to save those people, the ones that want to die. And blues are trying to argue why we should be trying to save the people who of their own choice are willing to die when they didn't need to risk their life, or they're literally suicidal and want to die. At least it would be more of dilemma if there were some actual innocent people involved. This is why blues can only justify their choice by bringing up kids or babies, at least then it's more debateable. Although allowing babies to choose makes the hypothetical retarded imo because the point should be people have a choice.

>>84469101
>>all red world right now
>We basically do though. When someone is in trouble most people are bystanders who do nothing.

Ok but again if everyone is a red presser and all the blue pressers die. Do you think there will be ANY people who ever help at all?

Why is this so hard for you people to understand?

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>>84463252
>what button would you pres

>>84463252
If I am right under this very twitter post the blues one, so why even bother if the red have already lost?

Blue button pressers will never come up with a realistic real world analogy.

Red button pressers get the ultimate punishment if they win
Having to live around other red button pressers
Blue button pressers all get to die

Imagine how selfish you'd have to be to press the blue button:
>Now other people must risk their lives because I want to play with my life

I bet they bring back chattel slavery within one year of the red button world

This is actually a good way to see who's holding people back
If you press the red button here what other life scenarios are you pressing the red button on?
Universal healthcare? Education? Green energy? You red button pressers are in good company with oil execs, dictators and Epsteins.

>>84469132
>Do you think there will be ANY people who ever help at all?
Yes, because the logic of reds is that people are responsible for their own actions, the logic is not to never help anyone ever and to only care about yourself. But if the option is, I guarantee my survival 100% if I choose red, and this applies to everyone, then I'm choosing red, and I hope other people choose red so they guarantee their survival. I do not expect people to save me from my own decisions, and likewise I don't think people have the right to expect that from me. I think having an internal locus of control and seeing people as individuals responsible for themselves is a healthier mentality then expecting a saviour or thinking you should be someone's saviour. I think the saviour mentality is patronizing and self-serving.

>>84469192
than expecting*

>>84469132
>Do you think there will be ANY people who ever help at all
Why would there be the red pressers entire mentality is mememe why the fuck would they ever help anyone

>>84469234
Blue button is the selfish act. If I press the blue button I expect others to risk their lives to save me.

>>84469284
If I press the blue button I HOPE people put others before themselves but if they don't that's fine I just die but it will be over before I realize it red button get to live with other red button pressers that's a punishment worse than death

>>84469291
Hope or want, whatever word you use, you still expect other people to risk their lives for you.

>le button social media meme
Can we ban this normie shiton at least /r9k/?

>>84469300
I don't expect anything
I saved people because I wanted to
Enjoy living around other red button pressers may they be as kind to you as you were to others

>>84469305
Then why do you press the button if you don't expect anything?

>>84469304
When have mods EVER

>>84463252
Blue because I enjoy when people are alive and not dead ^^

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>>84469307
Because I saw save people and that's all the motivation I needed

>>84469311
No, you want others to risk their lives.

>>84469315
If they don't press it c'est la vie but they doesn't change my answer

>>84463252
I dont get why people are so hung up on this retarded hypothetical. If there were some downside to pressing red, say you directly had to kill another person to keep yourself safe, there'd be something to debate about, but as is theres just no downside to red. If everyone presses red, no one dies, same result as the blue button, except no one risks their life unnecessarily. Pressing blue does nothing except kill yourself, so it boils down to "do you want to kill yourself for no reason or nah"

>>84463252
you're supposed to say you pick blue and secretly pick red
but no I'd pick blue fr

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>>84469322
The color you pick reveals your nature
Red
You only care about yourself
Blue
You care about others

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>>84469323
My button just arrived from the UN and I pressed blue.

>>84469329
Blue means you expect others to risk their lives for you.

>>84469334
Your argument falls apart when you rephrase your insinuation
Done people pick blue I realize they are in danger
I pick blue to save them
The blue pickers didn't force me
I WANTED to save them

>>84469329
Blue means you didnt think about the question for more than 1 second. Just press red, ask everyone to also press red, and then no one dies. Same result as blue. So why would I vote blue?

blue fags willingly make themselves the victim and then try to mask as heroes with their "well SOMEONES gonna be a retard, i have to save them!". if instead of buttons it was 100 people at a really long set of gallows and the choice was either dont put your head in the noose or 51+ people need to put their heads in the noose to break the gallows no one would fucking put their heads in the noose.

>>84469346
>I WANTED to save them
Forgive red pressers, they know not what they do.

>>84469346
Other people will still be responsible for your actions.

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>>84469351
I will save everyone
I WILL save everyone
Save yourself if you must

>>84469353
>a convenient, easy, and surefire method of suicide already provided
imagine

>>84469358
Yes, very subtle Snyder.

>>84469356
If we lose all we lose is our life
Momento mori

>>84463252
>press blue
>if most people are niggery sociopaths(they are) you get to leave this pitiful existance while they suffer
>if not then you get to live a slightly less suffering filled life

>>84469416
>another convoluted suicide fantasy

>>84469416
>press red
>every retarded goycattle liberal dies
>the remaining White people have nothing holding them back
>total shitskin death

>>84469416
>i will chance killing myself because other retards are probably chancing killing themselves
>its reds fault
this idea of red being the hitler choice is moronic because its coming from the literal retard population

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>>84469427
>>the remaining White people have nothing holding them back

>>84464805
It's literally not the exact same thing.

>>84469433
Who do you think are going to pick blue and who will pick red?

How are you people this retarded that you can't understand that 100% of all criminals will pick red?

>>84469464
I was mocking him
Once all the blues are dead the reds will just eat each other

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>I was the only person to press blue

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>>84463252
Red just because a rational actor would choose that but I hope the blue bros manage to survive

>>84463252
Since picking blue can either make things better or worse, depending on what others choose, the "correct" answer depends on your empirical predictions about human psychology. see partisans arguing either that there's "no reason" to pick blue, or that red is simply "selfish", and I don't think either claim is correct. It's not selfish to recognize that your own life has value, and there is clearly a altruistic sense of reason to pick blue if you'd expect enough others to do so.
What I think the red-partisans get right is that there's a sense in which the "first" people to pick blue are being deeply irrational and creating a problem that a society of logically sound people would generally avoid. But one has to deal with humanity as it is, not as we'd wish it to be, and saving others from lethal "mistakes" is a good thing to do if you can manage it but is not expected.

In my day to day I don't let illogical people get in my way I'd probably pick the red button, friends and family being a slight exception.

>>84463252
Red "Save myself with no risk to myself" or Blue "Save others and myself with the potential of saving no one who pushed it and dying instead".

Not much of a gambler and really would rather keep on living, Yeah that red button is gonna cum from how hard I fucking push it.

>>84469456
explain how then
choose red
>live
>choose blue
>if more than 50% of people pressed blue you live
>otherwise you die
it is equivalent

>>84469603
>or Blue "Save others and myself with the potential of saving
What is even the point of this, everyone should press Red and then no one dies anyway. Why would anyone press Blue at all.

>>84464189
>selfish
yes
>retards
no, we are more rational than you

>>84463252
You give me two roads one kills me and the other is the path to hell but you ever thought of i could walk the off the fucking roads and eat the buttons you cant control me elites
So I eat buttons because why not

>>84468823
Your 5 year old is smarter than you kek, he'll be fine.

>>84469329
Red reveals you can read information and understand it
Blue reveals that either 1) you can't read information & understand it, or 2) you're willing to potentially die to save idiots (group 1).

>>84463252
The problem is blue does not kill red pressers. We know red pressers did war crimes and deserve consequences.

>>84469559
Don't pray for me
Pray for yourself
You think the world is bad now
Wait till it's just filled with Donald trumps

>>84469158
there is no lose state for red.
Blue wins if they sacrifice themselves, as they're suicidal martyr types whom have no actual reasoning vehind their sacrifice, so saving people is their lose condition.

>>84469048
>Not everyone is and at least not all of the time.
You need at least 50% of the worlds population who would do this. With the situations we see and the sample ratios of those who would rise to action? You're looking at 10% if not less.
It's not cynicism as much as it is the reality of the world we live in.
If the world we live in now at least 50% altruistic world, I wouldn't be watching liveleak tier videos of jeets street shitting, slipping in their own shit and watching their head explode getting run over by a truck. They would be shitting in actual toilets. Also we wouldn't have a massive island of garbage floating in the Pacific.

You don't want to focus on your own survival and look at everyone else's shit, that's on you. Life is about moderation and knowing when to help others, but also when to help yourself too. In this case it is the wisest decision to help yourself, so you can life, and then help others becuase you can't help anyone if you're dead.

>>84470770
>He thinks people who pick red are all donald trump.
There's that classic blue extremism again :^)

>>84471049
Your first thought was yourself so yes you're extreme narcissists

Im not addicted to gambling so I would obviously press red

>>84463252
Everyone gets to survive if everyone pushed the red button. So why not tell everyone to press the red button?

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I like how MrBeast is aware of this hypothetical because he could actually put it to the test. He could have a series of games in which most contestants are eliminated and only a few reach the end where they get a significant prize, only that first all the contestants left are split up and individually offered the red or blue button options, red they keep the reward, blue they only keep it if most other contestants also press blue.
Would be nice to see what happens.

>>84463284
>Families are retarded for trying to protect babies that are going to randomly hit a button
>Families are retarded for trying to protect unconscious loved ones who can't vote
Red kills everyone that didn't hit red, that means kids and the sick. Red also might have the monkey's paw effect of killing all life except for the red pressers.

>>84471104
You don't have to be a narcissist to value your life enough that you believe you do the world more good alive than dead and you want to survive and keep contributing to society.
You're being a massive depressing faggot who undervalues their life so much, that they are willing to throw it away under the guise of altruism and shame anyone else who also doesn't devalue themselves to such a pitiful degree.

As I type this, 400 people have died. Are you going to weep, lament, and cry out in agony for those who you did not save? No, you're just going to sit there throwing personal insults pretending you care about people because this is how you choose to waste your time. While feeding your communal narcissism.

>>84471232
Pushing the red button means when it matters you will pick yourself
When it doesn't matter you will still pick yourself
When there's a chance to change things for the better you will
You guessed it
Pick yourself
You're the WHOS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!?!! when it's universal healthcare
But when the president wastes 60 billion dollars for isreals war that could have gone to a year of free education for every American suddenly you're not longer interested in what the cost is nor do you care to even look into it
But best believe isreal has free healthcare and education

>>84469378
>If we lose all we lose is our life
3rd least suicidal blue presser

>>84469416
>you get to leave this pitiful existance while they suffer
4th least suicidal blue presser

>>84463252
Imagine dying for a virtue signal lol.
The world would atleast have less cumskins

>>84471278
Could you imagine a world like this but 100x worse of course you can't that's why you press red

>>84471255
Communal narcissism my guy.
You can care about yourself and others. You fell into the logical trap and fucking frankly I'm going to be real.
Your choice to pick blue is yours your own. Stop blaming literally everyone else and everything else for your dogshit choice that puts you at risk. No one told you to pick blue, no one told you to risk your life for a theoretical possibility that for some reason, a retard would pick blue.
Grow the fuck up, and get some fucking accountability for your own actions. I'm not responsible for your fucking choices, I'm not your parent, I'm not your friend, we are contributing members of possibly of a society we don't fucking share. Just because you feel compelled to make a dogshit choice based off of emotion, doesn't make it my problem. You need to come to terms with empathetic tendencies leading to a self destructive lifestyle and no one is to blame but you.
I do my part to make society work, I care about the good of society, but I also care that others pull their own weight in the contribution of society as well. We all need to take care of ourselves. Individuals make a collective, if the individual is non functional then the collective cannot work.

Charity and good will of others only work as long as we have the resources of those who provide. If no one works to make provisions, we all rot and fail. That is the reality.

Your other political projecting is typical, and it makes sense why you're behaving like an insufferable faggot who can only make personal attacks on ones character for doing something different from you.

>>84471333
The world would be a better place without suicidal empathy and performative moralizing. Reds are just normal people who care about themselves and the people who love them more than a bunch of strangers.

>>84463252
Blue because i want to die

>>84471588
I'll support you by pressing red, friend.

>>84471043
I don't care what red pressers say lol. You are on the same side that 100% of murderers, thieves, child rapist, and criminals would pick.

>>84471181
>monkey's paw effect of killing all life except for the red pressers.
The other thing that low iq red pressers can't get is what if the rules are a lie? What if everyone who pressed blue lives and everyone who presses red dies or everyone lives but everyone knows which button you picked

>>84471835
>I can't make a good argument so I'm just going to keep projecting scary and bad things on the side I don't like so I'm justified in my dogshit choices
Okay.

>>84468823
>bluefag sneeds that his 5 year old is guaranteed to survive
Shouldn't you be happy? Bluefags really are just some kind of death cultists who get mad when you don't want to die for someone else's own choice. These are the people who made up jonestown.

>>84471835
Factilicious satisfact

>>84471894
They make perfect soldiers.
Which is ironic because all of these people will scream about how they don't understand how anyone would join the Nazi army, but their mentality shows that if they believe in a cause strong enough they are willing to die and pressure others to die for it as well.

>>84471869
You'll just mental gymnastics your way out of any argument it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is who else chose to stand with you.

Your side will be every single last coward, every single last selfish person, every single criminal.

>>84472078
In a red world we could finally deal with criminals without some bluetard screeching about how it's inhumane and releasing them the 50th time. That's what you get with bluetards, retards trying to save people who made their own bed.

>>84472078
>You'll just mental gymnastics your way out of any argument it doesn't matter.
We aren't making insane hypotheticals of what other people are going to do to validate choosing blue though.
But also as >>84472149 this anon said. Your kind are the ones who are soft on crime and allow criminals to still fucking persist in society when they clearly deserve to be locked up. All because "MUH JAIL SYSTEMS DON'T REHABILITATE, THEY DON'T HELP WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT TO GET THE REAL HELP THEY DESERVE!"
You let rapists and people who think women are lesser creatures who need to be constantly beaten and raped asylum in your home even though they are horrible fucking people.
Your entire existence is a fucking oxymoron of logic where you let impulsive emotional knee jerks rule your in moment decisions even if they are the dumbest fucking decisions alive and contradict your entire laundry list of morals and ethics.
Shut the fuck up you fucking poser.

if more than 50% vote blue, then maybe people arent as selfish as i thought and that would be kinda cool. if less than 50% vote blue, then i dont want to live here anyway.
if i voted red just to survive, id be stuck with the selfish people, so i wouldnt wanna be there. ill just vote blue. i dont really care if i die

>>84472149
>>84472170
Bro. All of the criminals are picking red. Anyone who would risk their life to save you from a burning building will have died because they picked blue.

You aren't doing shit about criminals because you're all cowards who are selfish. If nearly half the world dies because red wins, you cowards are being GAPPED by the career criminals who will all have picked red.

>>84472248
Red pickers can't understand this and get angry that they can't do the same thing.

>>84463517
You experience the maximum amount of pain your nervous system will allow untill you die.

>>84472254
people really struggle understanding others' points of view, as expected

>>84472250
>All of the criminals are picking red
Says who? you?
Why is it bluefags can only make argument based on "Yeah well I deemed people are doing to do X, therefore my decision is Y"
All you do is tell other people what they are, how they act, and who they are. You're more worried about assigning labels and putting people into stereotypes of how you expect them to behave rather than focusing on your own shit and making sure you aren't in danger.
It's all projection, the concept of individuality is so fucking foreign to you.

>>84463252
This is just dumb, theres no risk if everyone picks red, people who are unable to interpret a text will pick blue, "ah but there will be some dumbass retards picking blue even after getting it to save the stupid fucks who picked blue" its just a way to cull out low iq retards and stulid retards who want to save them, "oh, everyone can choose to jump from the building or not, if the number of people who jumped is less than who didnt the retards who took the absolute needless risk when they didnt needed to will obviously die". Just ask yourself, Am I and idiot?

>>84472297
same argument could be made for blue, if everyone presses blue then nothing happens. that is not to say you should press blue if you want to live, but your argument is pointless

>>84472250
The funny thing is even a criminal society is more functional than a death cult society. Australia was a penal colony which was able to civilize, why? Because society is built on law and order, not on sentiment. On the other hand something like jonestown failed because it was filled with suicidal and naive morons who think society is built on sentiment.
>>84472248
Oh look another suicidal bluetard who sneeds that people care about their own interests and don't want to die for a choice someone else made, I'm sensing a pattern here. It's not selfish to not want to die for someone else who made their own bed, it is selfish to cry and expect others to risk their lives. Would a truly selfless person sneed that someone doesn't want to die? No, if someone truly cared about your best interest they would be happy that you chose to not kill yourself pointlessly. Only someone who doesn't recognize this, in other words, lacks empathy to understand people's motivations, seethes when people don't join their death cult.

>>84464805
Midwit anons don't get why this is the same. With the prisoner dillema the ideal scenario is neither prisoner rats each other out as both get 0 years, but 1 one rats the other gets 15, and if both rat they both get 5. So there is a reason to put yourself in harms way.
With the button scenario, the ideal scenario is >50% blue OR 100% red. There is literally no harm if everyone is self-centered. The only reason to pick blue is because of other hypothetical people who may also pick blue. So the train is exactly the same. It just highlights that by clicking blue you are actively putting yourself in harms way. The problem is exactly the same.

>>84472307
Because if it's a choice between each button doing nothing if everyone presses it, why would you choose the button that has inherent risk over the one that doesn't?
If you desire the same result, why go the path that is unsafe, when you have a clear and safe path available?

>>84472322
Exactly, you are creating a problem that didn't need to exist and now depend on other people to help you survive at risk for their own life. You assume someone put their own life at risk, and other people assume that you assumed people would put their life at risk, and now you created a problem that requires a solution where people need to risk their life in order to save you.

>>84472307
The point is the risk, red is right because theres zero risk, and anyone who picks blue is willingly picking risk for themselves, basically blue is not to save everyone like dubasses say, red is because again blue is the only one risking lives, if the people on blue die its not reds fault, its entirely on blues as its a free will choice from the beginning, risking yourself to save others who willingly risked themselves by choice is meaningless.

Its ok, i will save everyone who wants to press blue by pressing red then breaking the blue button so it no longer functions.

>>84471984
Nazi Germany is just another example of the end result of death cult societies, even Australia, a penal colony is still around whole nazi Germany crashed in burned in what, a decade?

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>>84471835
>hitler liked dogs
All the murderers breathe, you should probably stop.

>>84471848
>what if the rules are a lie?
Then there's no reason to presume either button will have a desirable outcome, it's immaterial to decision making.

>>84472756
>All the murderers breathe, you should probably stop.
This is such a stupid argument. Because all humans breathe. Not all humans are going to press red. Very likely most people in the medical care industry will choose blue while it's a nearly forgone conclusion that every single person who's been to prison and or murdered someone will be pressing red.

>>84472817
But you just said all murderers are going to press red.
Now it's "W-Well not all are going to press red!" So it's only extremism when it doesn't fit your narrative that benefits you.
You keep pigeonholing people into your expectations. You are fucked in the head dude. You're a stereotyping bigot and you aren't even aware of it.

>>84472839
Are you retarded? Are you honestly trying to argue that the vast majority of career criminals and murderers aren't going to press red?

>>84463252
Blue button is for morons and suicidal people. I wouldnt jump in front of a train in the hopes it would help stop it only in order to save other people stupid enough to jump in front of the train. Its crab in a bucket but for actual negative IQ retards.

>>84463252
So it's basically
>Red: guaranteed survival
>Blue: chances of dying

There's no point in chosing blue

>>84463252
I initially picked red because I wanted to kill people, not realizing it was the "paranoid self-interest" button

>>84464865
>>84464827

Pretty sure that one of the rules of the scenario is that children and the mentally incapable will have their choice made for them by their designated gaurdian. So your argument is moot.

>>84472896
If you want to kill others, the aswer is blue anon, by risking your ass you prompt others to risk themselves for you, the downside is that you die too, you have more chance of killing people by pressing blue than red.

>>84472322
The only argument that comes close to justifying blue is that colorblind or blind people will be making the choice at random, as will babies and children too young to understand the question. The original prompt says "everybody" will participate, but given we have accommodations for the visually impaired IRL and don't hold babies up to a set of buttons to have them vote, it's a fair assumption that we'd have some way of dealing with those problems. That's the only way you could justify pressing blue to me. If the edge cases are taken care of somehow, then the only people pressing blue are both explicitly creating a risk for themselves and asking other people to also accept it for no fucking reason.

>>84472957
>Every single vote has blue winning
Opinion discarded

I pressed blue lolololol

>>84472890
they for some reason can not understand this. any other representation of this scenario that involves physical violence (51% of people need to stand on the track to get the train to stop, 51% of everyone needs to stand under a boulder to catch it) the answer is OBVIOUSLY just dont fucking put yourself in the bad situation. these people have 0 awareness and have the audacity to call red selfish while they themselves chase glory (i want to save other retards). blue ideology is a blight holding everyone back

>>84474023
>these people have 0 awareness and have the audacity to call red selfish while they themselves chase glory (i want to save other retards). blue ideology is a blight holding everyone back
Thats a legit combination of low iq with low eq, deliberately taking an unnecessary risk to virtue signal and show off to others.

>>84474023
do you really think they dont understand the rules of the game? they must have, you cant have missed something.
try another analogy about the same thing. maybe a burning building or a cliff

they must have misunderstood*
do the shock collar analogy maybe. you need to be more creative to get your analysis across

>>84472869
I'm arguing that you're making assumptions about shit and you keep grouping people into stereotypes of how you expect them to behave.
You're a massive gigantic faggot and your though patterns are the anthesis of the politics you preach.
And you know my thought? I don't know what button anyone would press, and honestly I don't need to know or care, because I'm a redchad who doesn't have to worry about who presses what and who goes where.
I'm worrying about my life and the things I can control, not what a serial rapist in london is pressing.
This is such a bluecuck thought pattern and worry. Trying to control everyone else like some sort of fascist and stereotyping people into enemies so you can validate your shitty crusade of bad choices.

>>84474379
Do you believe most murderers, thieves, and other criminals are more likely to push the red button? Yes. Or no.

>>84474379
nta you know thats the point of the question though? recruiting higher order reasoning/theory of mind. thinking about what others might press and why

>>84474588
>>84474579
The issue is this >>84474023
The question is being presented with two innocent button presses so it's easy to virtue signal. If you told people to get on the train tracks a lot fewer bluefags would be willing to do it.

>>84474666
but the the buttons aren't innocent. its just that you experience them that way due to not engaging with the above

>>84474579
I believe most white progressives would press blue, and without you guys around we could do something about the others.

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It's just the shopping cart test.

>>84474579
I don't know, and I don't care.
I know it's a hard answer for you to swallow. But criminals have their own motives that would motivate them either way. The demographic is way too diverse to say "They will do x or y" it's fucking ignorant and stupid.
Just like watching liberals ship in a bunch of evangelical Mexicans illegally and wondering why they vote red instead of blue. It's a dogshit assumption based on the most shallow bullshit because you can't see them past their one singular label of criminal like a dumbass.

>>84474588
The point of the question is to show who are individualists, and collectivists, and watching the two polar opposite views of identity in this world clash with eachother.
Individualists don't care what anyone else presses because it's their choice to make. They see a clear and obvious solution, and to not choose it, is insane because it risks your wellbeing. But it's their choice to make.
Collectivists, they care about what everyone else does, and wants to control what everyone does as a collective. That's why to them, they care about who presses what and they have to insult everyone who isn't part of their collective.

The collectivists incite a war, because in their mind they view individualists as a rival collective instead of a group of individuals who just agree on the same subject. And in turn individualists get pissed by the insinuation and terrible treatment and then double down to trigger them because they are acting like unbearable assholes.

And here we are a bunch of people throwing shit at eachother. Because one side has no chill, and the other refuses to be shit on by the side that has zero fucking chill.

>>84474804
Oh I forgot to add, this is basically summing up the current political climate in the US that is bleeding over to the rest of the western 1st world as well.
Replace individualists with R and collectivists with D.

>>84463252
This is basically the litmus test for whether or not you're a nigger.

>>84474756
Explain your reasoning, it's not obvious why you're drawing a comparison, considering these are completely different scenarios where the unnecessary threat of death if you choose an option is present in one scenario

>>84472248
Not attempting suicide is not selfish.

>>84474804
i guess the question is how many fall on the individualist side of it due to not engaging in the way mentioned though. because its very easy to see how it makes red more attractive

>>84474804
>I don't know, and I don't care
Do you believe most criminals and murderers will press blue? Why or why not?

>>84474864
Don't know, can't predict it. You can try, but it's waste thought and effort. All you can do is survive and pick up where things left off if the bad outcome happens.
That's the privilege red pressing provides, you don't need to worry about everyone else and what they do, you have to prepare yourself for the worst possible scenario of who dies, and how to carry on without them and make sure things carry on.
Just like driving a car. You have to have faith that everyone else won't do stupid shit to fuck it up for everyone else, so we can keep travelling and just react when things go sideways.
You can't control shit outside of your own car. A majority do it right, but there's always incidents that show they can't. And what do you do about it? You can't do shit.

>>84474954
I believe the results are mixed, and you cannot prejudice a group based on a shallow label like "criminal" to say which button they will press.
Petty criminals are still criminals and they each have different motivations as to why they might choose red or blue.
You cannot turn them into a majority. Again this mentality is the anthesis of liberal mindsets that you shouldn't form prejudices based on the history of a few bad people from a demographic.
You are so fucking radicalized you are only operating in black and white. Get yourself checked for BPD bro.

>>84475007
>believe the results are mixed, and you cannot prejudice a group based on a shallow label like "criminal" to say which button they will press.
>Petty criminals are still criminals and they each have different motivations as to why they might choose red or blue.
>You cannot turn them into a majority.


So is it fair to say that you believe that many criminals and murderers have no overlapping shared traits?

>>84475033
nta but I don't get where you're going with this. Criminals are anti-social and thus more individualistic, meaning they'll probably go with red, but you aren't necessarily anti-social just because you're individualistic. The biggest hindrance to being able to deal with criminals in the first place are bleeding hearts with a saviour complex, blues are anti-civilization because they're anti law and order and pro wishful thinking. I'll say it again, Australia, a penal colony, created a functional society, meanwhile bluefags usually end up killing themselves (jonestown) one way or another. It goes to show a society of blues is even worse than a criminal society. That said, a red society would be nowhere near criminal, it would be made of normal people that have a self-preservation instinct instead pathologically altruistic people who have a death wish. No blues, no religious zealots either probably, it's ironic since I don't think blues realize the origins of their cult-like behaviour. The reason they're so suicidal is probably an artifact of Christian culture which worships a man who sacrificed himself for humanity instead of fighting back. This martyrdom complex comes from christfaggotry.

>>84475007
when you're driving though you are constantly modeling and anticipating what others might do, even if it's become so automatic that you don't notice. and the better you are at it the better a driver you can be. you'd be involved in less crashes and poor decisions over time. similarly for answering things like these. to say that its not worth doing because you cant truly know or fully control what they might actually do is odd

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>>84472248
>Red voters are selfish, I want to SAVE lives
If the only people that need to be saved are the ones that made the same choice as you, how could you possibly claim that its the correct choice?
Blue is a stupid answer. Its an empathetic answer, maybe, but still objectively stupid. Suicidal empathy is not a virtue

>>84475319
I can tell when people are going to switch lanes before they use their blinkers

>>84475802
i can ride my bike with no handlebars

>>84463252
Red, it's the Nash equilibrium

>color the button red and blue
>now its political
this is a psyop, red vs blue during a hard divide in society. imagine how much less attention this would have if it was purple vs orange

Let me ask you a question, bluefags. If the requirement for survival was that 90% of the people needed to press the blue button, would you still do it? Of course not, so it's not a moral question, but a logical one. You are just a hypocrite that thinks the odds are justifiable enough to risk other people's lives in order to appeal to your ego.

>>84476568
>risk other people's lives
where are you getting this from? the only life a bluefag is risking is his own

>>84475879
i was gonna go to work but then i got high

>>84463252
But if everyone picks blue, everyone also survives. Really the only reason you would ever pick red, is if you wanted people to die. That's messed up, anon. I suppose you're in the right place for sociopaths, though.

>>84476637
not everyone has to, just slightly more than half the people

>>84476637
What if literally everybody had to pick blue? What about 90%? 80%? 70%? What's the limit you are willing to risk your life to save people that risked their lives for no reason at all?

>What do u care anon?-u dont love

>>84463252
I've been seeing this meme spammed for the past week or so and I just don't understand why low IQ's find it so compelling to argue about.
It's just a basic game theory question. Every single person will press the red button. It's not about empathy or ethics. I feel like a retard for even bothering to engage with it here but I just find it annoying it keeps showing up.

this bitchass thread is still alive? says alot about /r9k/'s audience

>>84476676
It's interesting because it's a social experiment with potentially surprising results when put to the test.
>Every single person will press the red button.
There's no universe in which this is true.

>>84476676
Stalin would order me to press the red, so I did. Simple.

>>84463252
Idk. But pressing the red button seems to have made gasoline cost $4.30 a gallon and all the liberals are still alive so maybe that wasnt the smartest choice.

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>>84463252
Both of them, because fuck you.

>>84474666
I agree that button pressing is a problem. Roko's basilisk is this exact same dilemma, except redtards have to actively build the machine that kills all blue pressers, so there are a lot less supporters for it.

This just goes to show how impactful how you frame a question can be. If instead of saying "If more than 50% of people push the blue button everyone lives" it said "Press the blue button and you'll die unless 50% of people do it too" I can guaruntee nobody who isn't actively suicidal would pick it.