It is perfectly valid for a guy who desires a virgin for marriage to have sex with non-virgin women until he finds a virgin to commit to.
>>84483520No it's not. You wanting to do this means you're just in it for the hymen blood fetish factor. You don't value her innocence at all.
>>84483537I completely value her if I am willing to wait until marriage for her and commit my life to her. But it is absurd to expect the guy to just remain celibate for a virgin girl who may never come his way, which is why it is perfectly rational to sleep with non-virgin women until you find a virgin to marry.
>>84483555Ok so it's absurd to expect a girl to save it too. That's what you're admitting.
>>84483537>>84483686he knows this and this is ragebait trolling unless you are also op pretending to be ragebait trolled just for more engagement in a recursive loopapalooza
>>84483695No unfortunately I took the bait. It was just floating there in the water and I swallowed it.
>>84483537You seem to think that expectations should have anything to do with some arbitrary and self-imposed sense of "fairness" or "morality", when realistically it's just instinctual mating strategies coupled with one's value on the dating market and what it can net them. Men's dual mating strategy (women have one too) values quantity for short-term goals and purity + innocence (low bodycount; ideally zero) for better pairbonding ability. The stuff about blood fetishes is conjecture and has no actual grounding in biology and fails to explain the near universal preference for high purity in long-term commitments.Disclaimer: I'm not saying any of this is good or bad because i don't believe in morality and neither does biology or your mating instincts.
>>84483520It's perfectly valid for a virgin woman to reject a man for being a filthy nonvirgin.
>>84484148This doesn't actually happen IRL. In fact it's the opposite that often happens
>>84484131>akshually nature calls for the man to get to fuck everything and the woman nothing good thing i'm a man hyuck hyuck
>>84484224That's a strawman and you're just crashing out and would benefit immensely from actually reading a textbook on evolutionary psychology instead of listening to YouTube and TikTok slop trying to impose "morality" (not real) on biology. Women's dual mating strategy seems equally nonsensical if you try to interpret it as a singular strategy and not a dual phase set of strategies with shifting goals depending on circumstance and availability.
>>84484245>reading a textbookyeah because terms like dual mating strategies and sexual market value weren't just invented by redpill course grifters in the last 25 yearsYou just want to have lots of sex before you settle down. You're a male woman.
>>84484325You're actually retarded if you think boomer grifters and retards like Tate who's a literal pimp invented evolutionary psychology. Nigga the field has been recognized for nearly 2 centuries and even Darwin attempted to explain different species' diverging behavior with evolution. If you can believe animals had massive changes in physical traits to adapt to their environment over millions of years, why couldn't they have had behavioral adaptations to bank on their physical changes and adapt to their environment and boost their chances of survival?
>>84484338So you're an unevolved ape?>no bro i swear i just can't stop fucking i'm powerless to stop it it's just my nature bro yes i behave in exactly the same way i would shame a woman for behaving even though i don't believe in morality or whatever i said to get away with this
>>84484148>>84483520personal preference is ok
>>84484342You're probably misinformed about evolutionary psychology because of grifters misusing it to push stupid bullshit about modern dating dynamics and trying to get retards to buy their le self improoovement/PUA courses. Go pirate a textbook off annas-archive and see for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>>84484369>just read a textbook bro it'll explain how female dual mating strategy dictates they fuck all the chads they can and get tons of abortions during their most fertile years and then settle down for a sexless marriage after their eggs are goneNo I'm just going to keep btfoing you with the memearrow.
>>84483555Guys that want a virgin want a wife. Guys that want a sexually experienced woman want a girlfriend.
>>84483686What is the argument here? That virginity is valued in men the same way it is valued in women?
>>84483520Of course, everyone gotta practice
>>84483520While it may seem unsavory to some, you have to consider, that it's on the guy to court the woman. How is he supposed to court his virgin waifu, if he has no experience? Virgin women are still women, and they look for the same markers of high socioeconomic status that non-virgin women do, such as confidence. The guy would be ruining his chances, if he went into it not knowing what he's doing, or not being properly emotionally tuned to hold frame through past exposure.
>>84483520from an egotistical point of view yes, but it's pretty anti-utilitarian.
