Are soldiers really worthy of so much praise when all they do is go around destabilizing other countries and killing innocent people? I mean these same people would turn their weapons on us if the government ordered them to.
>>84486535"I'm an asshole because these tranners are fire, if you're mild it must be a pivot" - Pink Guyi believe he caught a plane
They dont deserve any praise I have always said that all men who go to war and get squashed 100% deserved it. Agreeing to go to war is literally a betrayal of your own family. In the time of danger, you live your loved ones alone and vulnerable. An actually righteous man would buy up some rifles and barricade in his home or arrange a whole family to leave. There is no point in serving a "nation", all of the people who use this word just want to exploit and kill you. Nations are not real. Only those that you are connected to by blood or have personally chosen matter. This is ultimately why women would rather date a criminal than a good little goyim licking the boots of politicians.
>>84486571You're a hopeless retard. Sad to see.
>>84486584Where is he wrong? Even ww2 vets look at modern America as a travesty. Win or lose the soldiers always end up cucked in the end.
>>84486535Any stable society supports its soldiers. It's a requirement for a good civilization. If you've got a problem with the decisions being made about how to use those troops, that's valid, and needs to be directed at those making the decisions, not the grunts who are required to follow orders. If you shit on the troops, you're genuinely low IQ. For example - the dumbass faggot hippies who spat on the vietnam troops despite most of those troops being drafted. Abysmally low IQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThMFYBtZLw>Why should I care if you get killed?
>>84486613>and needs to be directed at those making the decisions, not the grunts who are required to follow ordersThat's no excuse. The fact that an authority figure ordered you to do something immoral doesn't make it any less immoral. I can sympathize, but I won't praise someone for choosing to kill innocent people over being punished for refusing.
>>84486622>leftoids try not to be deranged>challenge level: impossible
>>84486641>you're deranged for pointing out the cult-like celebration of mass murdering innocent people
>>84486638It is an excuse. Soldiers need to follow orders or else the system falls apart, and soldiers who refuse commands are heavily punished. The officer who gave the command is the one who needs to face punishment for things like this. Are you even aware of what happened at My Lai? The soldiers were told that civilians had already been evacuated and those remaining were VC combatants posing as civilians. Which was faulty intelligence. This was not the fault of the soldiers. You don't even know what you're talking about, and frankly it's embarrassing.
>>84486535The only soldiers who deserve praise are those who fight in a defensive war on their own soil or in a counter attack against an aggressive neighboring country. I have no respect for murderers, mercenaries, and imperialists.
>>84486661Your screenshotted tweet literally said they hope that innocent kids kill themselves in front of their parents. You're completely delusional and projecting your own mental illness onto other people.
>>84486683>It is an excuse.No its not. You've just accepted that rape, murder, and unjust destruction as part of the process.>Are you even aware of what happened at My Lai?Doesn't matter, the war was unjust and headed by evil people from the beginning so of course shit like this would happen.Also
>>84486613>If you've got a problem with the decisions being made about how to use those troops, that's valid, and needs to be directed at those making the decisions,Problem is if you do, the soldiers will kill you lol. You are a supreme cuck if you glaze the class that is programmed to kill you on orders from pedopgiles.
>>84486535depending on the country and gaols they fight for. soldiers fighting for liberal capitalism dont deserve respect
I hate soldiers because they defend the satanic eliteYou hate them because they are "imperialist"We are not the same
>>84486729>Doesn't matterYou're just refusing to consider the facts of the situation because you have abysmally low IQ, as I said in an earlier post. Rape, murder and destruction are part of the human experience, you'd better get used to it because that's how it is. You sit in comfort because of the people on your side who are bombing and shooting people on the enemy's side. If you lived in a tribal society, you would be required to take part in warfare yourself if you are a man. But because we live in a large collective civilization, we can offload that role to a warrior class. There may come a day where society breaks down and you are forced to fight or die. I wonder then how you will feel. Will you still feel too pompous and self-righteous to defend yourself and your family when rapists and murderers are coming to attack you? Would be interesting to see.>>84486740If soldiers came to attack me, I wouldn't blame them, I'd be blaming the faggot who was ordering them up the chain of command, wherever the orders originated from. Because I'm not a low IQ simpleton like you.
>>84486786>as I said in an earlier post. Rape, murder and destruction are part of the human experienceOh I see, you're trolling. I'm sorry.
>>84486806I'd recommend you pick up 1 (one) single history book before offering your retarded, sheltered opinions.
they're about as worthy of the respect op's absent father had for him
I don't see how you can defend them when even their handlers refer to them as dumb stupid animals.
I used to be the NPC who would go around praising soldiers for being brave and putting their lives down to fight for our country. As I got older and learned to break my programming, I realized how soldiers are nothing but total fucking psychopathic assholes and they deserve everything negative that happens to them. The gall everyone has to defend all that behavior are even worse. The rate of their domestic violence against their own family (including their children) and against people in general is so high that only niggers beat them. You have to be really shitty when even niggers give you a run for your money.The VA, doctors, therapists, etc. justifies all of this by saying "it's their PTSD! So you have to excuse it!" while not doing a single thing to correct it. Instead, they gaslight even their own children to think that it is okay to be abused by their own parent because they're adults in the military. Then they wonder why they turn out to ne resentful adults.
More people are criticizing war since the focus went off of Ukraine and onto Israel
>>84486535No. But like in any criminal gang, cult or society its always "the warrior class" who gets venerated and celebrated the most since they are by nature the dispensers of violence against enemies and if need be uppity members of the tribe who need to get put back in line. You always treat and pay the enforcers slightly better than the peasants. Because loyalty has a price and the loyalty of the violence dispensers pays dividens.
>>84486786Soldiers arent a warrior class. They are golems. Mercenaries. Pirates. They are not fighters or warriors. They do not see a battle or a good death. They do not believe in anything either.You need to believe.
>>84486786>I'd be blaming the faggot who was ordering them up the chain of command, wherever the orders originated from.Thats nice and all buts ots still not going to stop those "warriors" from blowing your ass up with a drone, raping your wife, and then burning down whats left of your house with your wife and kids in it. Human nature and all that. You understand.
>>84486535War is a fact of life. It's funny to see people so passionately against it for the simple notion of killing bad. Even though they typically lack a belief system to actually make killing people be bad, it's just vibe virtues. I want to ask you honestly anon, why is it bad for the military to go blow up a country who hates us and would gladly do the same if the roles were reversed? Are you religious and think human life has inherent value? Are you some kind of reddit atheist who earnestly thinks all of humanity can hold hands and be happy together if the bigots in power didn't ruin it for everyone? Or are you just programed by decades of propaganda that war and dominance is bad because reasons?
>>84486535these people have to put up with fellow retards while being practically forced to obey stupid commands from their even more retarded higher upsi'd say that warrants a certain degree of respect, especially when doing something so retarded could result in them being killed or maimedsoldiers don't have much of a choice, nor are they very intelligent usuallythey're often times just people doing their job, if you wanna blame anyone, blame the people who made the decision to put them down theretl;dr they deserve respect for putting up with the morons who forced them to be there
>>84488362>tl;dr they deserve respect for putting up with the morons who forced them to be thereThat argument loses all weight once you realize they would blow up your entire family on orders. Sympathize for them being too cowardly to resist authority, sure, but not respect mindless murderers.
>>84486535He says from his safe country in an air conditioned room. >willing to die to do their job>only reason countries existed pre-globalism>only reason countries had extra resources>usually paid not too good unless higher in rank>risk ptsd/disability >nowadays with tech it's even a shittier deal (drones, gas, etc)>corpse will maybe be used for evil reasons>have to deal with little shits saying how they don't like soldiers You think people willing to die for their countries will turn against their people? Wtf no. Unironically some of the few men I actually respect.
Are Immigrants really worthy of so much praise when all they do is go around destabilizing other countries and killing and raping innocent people? I mean these same people would turn their weapons on us because their religion orders them to.
>>84488461>You think people willing to die for their countries will turn against their people? Wtf no.Funniest shit I've read all day. Every tyrannical government in the history of man worked exactly because of this fact. They are loyal to the state and self interest, not its citizens.
>>84488495I'm talking about going out to defend your country, not terrorizing your own civilians, like implied in ops picrel.
>>84488461You are saying as if existence of countries is good. No, you as a regular person win absolutely nothing by the fact that you are tied to some rich faggots deciding your life for you. The elite class that constitute a "state" are nothing but parasites. They understood it well historically hence why war was only for and amongst privileged classes or people who were paid for it. Inventing draft, supporting draft, being compliant with draft are all sign of deepest levels of spiritual cuckoldry.
>>84488519Countries are its people, if everyone's the same ethnicity even the leaders and they have in group loyalty its a good thing. They take care of their people. See Poland now. See basically every country before globalism. But theres no point to your leaders being other ethnicities or bought off by rich bankers who want to ruin your country by flooding it with the enemy legally (mass immigration). We tried globalism, it utterly failed. Do you have a business degree, a education in state, a military degree? If not then let them do their job. Unless you'd like to live in a 3rd world shithole.
>>84488519>The elite class that constitute a "state" are nothing but parasites.This. The trick is how they convince the masses that they have some sort of special insight or qualities. And for that reason millions of young men who never met each other nor care to kill each other are slammed against one another into an orgy of death and destruction.
>>84488419we do what we must to survive, anoni'm sure these people still feel something, some level of disgust or guilt when they do that to othersif anything, i respect their grit, because if i absolutely had to, i would fling a grenade into their homes too, just as they would minethere's a difference between doing that passionately while on orders and doing that out of obligation (and not doing it if given a choice)i'm sure the overwhelming majority of soldiers fall onto the latter category
>>84486698Good thing you aren't saying that in German.
The number of keyboard warriors in this thread is frightening.
>>84488337Have you ever been on the receiving end of war or like every other internet tough guy are you a first world armchair general whose biggest daily struggle is choosing what porn to jerk off to?
>>84488628You can take the man out of the fight but not the fight out of the man. Keyboard warriors 1st line of defense against evil psyops.
>>84488657I haven't, but that's exactly why my question is phrased the way it is. It's for people like me who have no experience with war whether as a civilian or soldier. For all the whiny first worlders saying war is bad. And even then, saying war is bad just because it made you or others suffer is still really shallow. What if the other country attacks us first? Is it justifiable to defend ourselves and attack them? I just want a more nuanced opinion than "wah suffering bad" especially when it comes from people who would say we should use violence against their own countrymen who just think a little differently. Is war justifiable or is it not?
>pussified NEET soibois bitching about the people who keep them safe
>>84488729Yes because they would also throw us into the gulag if the Epstein class ordered them to.
>>84486535Most of the soldier worship is a cultural leftover from when American military actually used to protect its self from real threats like 80 years ago. Modern american military is basically just a modern imperialist machine for sure
>>84488752>cries about soldiers>posts an image of policeNot too bright are ya, bud?
>>84488708I'm not saying war is completely avoidable but I've researched enough history to know that most wars are simply acts of aggression orchestrated by the ruling class for their own interest. We're seeing it right now In Ukraine and the middle east.America is easily the worst offender in modern history.
>>84488780War and being a soldier was actually a noble rewarded thing before modern society. Instead you have warrior souls now going pedo hunting or something to sate the desire.
>>84488780Why can't countries behave, goddamn. Act right or get a spanking, simple as.
>>84488780No shit the USA is the worst "offender", they've been the most powerful country in the world since Europe blew itself up almost 100 years ago and have been acting as the world police since then.
>>84488771nta but they're the same thing, tools the state uses for violence
>>84489006They're not even remotely the same thing. You'd know that if you hadn't made the willful decision to remain ignorant about how your own country works. And despite it all, you decide to give your unlearned opinions. Pathetic.
>>84489006Yeah police are just the domestic thugs owned by pedophiles, soldiers are international.
>>84486661>your cult is worse than my cult!!!dil8
>>84489126You're owned by pedophiles too, didn't you know? They even gave you a serial number when you were born. You're a goy product.
>>84489068the state's primary function is maintaining a monopoly on violence. police + military are just two different intensities. but you're a retarded zogbot so that concept is beyond you
>>84489244>no YOU'RE retarded because you actually understand how the system works!!!!Cute.
>you're retarded for having ethics, i'm just gonna kill you>you're retarded for thinking i won't defend myself
itt: the clash of worlds between people who care about people who aren't themselves and people who do not care about themnews at 11
>>84489447the thing is that the people who don't care about others are all utterly dependent of the support of the people who care about others to survive
>>84488519If countries existing isn't good then why the fuck did your brown shit-stained familia immigrate over here, retard?
>>84488780Japan 1945 and Afghanistan 2001-2021 attacked us so those were fully justified.All of the communist ones are partially justified, communism is a horrible murderous ideology.The ones that declared war on us first like Germany 1945 are partially justified.The ones that illegally invaded a sovereign nation like North Korea 1950-1953 and Iraq 1991 were partially justified.
>>84490574Americans are so naive.https://youtu.be/V5tmogd9xp4?list=PLCC5CB7571769A4B2
