>it will happen when you least expect it>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of dating>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospects this philosophy is one that simply makes no sense to me. I don't understand, if what we really want to do is date, why would we get involved in activities that have nothing to do with dating? It's the same thing as when people say "It'll happen for you when you're not looking." THEN IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! Doesn't anyone understand? I am looking until I find them! In every moment of every day, I can't just not look, not hope, not expect. And this isn't even a incel plea I'm making, I know a girl who was a kissless, handholdless virgin till 26 following this advice.
>>84487713>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of dating>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospectsI've always done this and I'm a 27 years old incel.
>>84487713The point is to get you to shut up and just focus on paying taxes to pedophiles.
>>84487722the people who give this advice are usually conventionally attractive women who get hit on everywhere they go. They never had to actively look for someone romantically since every other guy friend/acquaintance would eventually make a pass at them. They are blind to the privilege of always being the one rejecting others, so if hot enough guy makes a move she will explain it as some "stars aligning" moment.
>male neighbors listen to their female neighbors get fucked and fap to it
>>84487713Normalfags do normalfags things where normalfags gather and they can enjoy participating in normalfag activities together and possibly form normalfag relationships. They don't comprehend that you would just sit alone if you weren't actively trying to do what they do naturally.
>>84487713>it will happen when you least expect it>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of dating>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospectsWhen you say it's gonna happen now, what exactly do you mean?See, I've already waited too longAnd all my hope is gone
The point is that wrapping your entire life around chasing women and looking for their approval is going to fucking destroy your mind and soul. Women can also smell this desperation and obsession on you like shit seeping through your jeans.Stop being a slave to lust. Stop living for women. Live life for yourself. Jesus fuck I have to say this a hundred goddamn times a day on here.
>>84487917>Jesus fuck I have to say this a hundred goddamn times a day on here.I say a lot of things but it is always ignored. Let them rationalize their bullshit and stew in their misery. It's funnier that way.
>>84487917>>84487929>dude just be lonelyI am going to be a HUUUUUGE problem when the 911 line stops working.>they were children>those were women>thats my family nooooIt is demoralization posts that made me this way
>>84487713>picrel>normalfagNormie-tier guys don't give women intense screaming orgasms. Women only cum like that when they're with chads.
>>84487948>dude, just let me mindlessly believe what I want to believe despite it being false and my narrative based upon selective screenshots and shitty studiesWhich I let you do. It's funnier that way.
>>84487713Are normies consciusly gaslihting us
>>84487948Loneliness is in your fucking head because you're needy. Be a man and stand on your own. There are so many things in this world to do to find meaning and be happy but you focus on the most difficult and volatile one.
>>84487917no, it's just foids saying this about any guy they find unattractive, that way it's a moral failing on his end and it's not just her being shallow.
>>84487713No they're completely high on oxytocin. Our oxytocin receptors are so burned and atrophied from lack of use that it doesn't matter what you do the anhedonia will always come to bite you
>>84488055It's not about morals, it's about you giving a shit. Stop giving a shit.
>>84487990There is no reason for me to follow the social contract when the nation is not upholding its end.If a community does not provide for its future generations. It does not deserve to survive.
>>84487722it was alsways dumb advice given by people with no actual wisdom or experiences, just want to feel good about themselves by helping out the stinky little incel or whatever.
>>84488155it's a nice way of telling people to fuck off and that they don't care about your problems
>>84488131i never said it was. your brain must be smooth if you can't understand what i meant.
>>84487990>Loneliness is in your fucking headhumans are not designed to be some mystical monk that spends decades meditating in isolation.and if a percentage of your society is experiencing this, that's a massive problem. but you got the answers. let me guess, you're a tibetin monk? youre in High Hrothgar meditating with dragons instead of getting bitches? stfu.
>>84488260This it's been proven time and time again that isolation causes irreversible damage to the human brain
>>84488269there are studies coming out that says extreme loneliness is more damaging than alcoholism, and lowers your lifespan by up to 10 years.
>>84487990no shit retard. all kinds of shit is in your head. eating disorders are in your head. depression is in your head. addiction is in your head. fucking brain cancer is in your head.
>>84487713After much research and applying it in order to get a gf i have developed a simple stratagem for most robots to get a gfTo preface doing hobbies/events won't help you date for the most part though they "could" unless you are extremely extroverted, even most normies lack this level of charisma. You find a gf by having sex with women in simple terms.You have to find women who want to plap, recognize whether or not they want to plap with you, plap them, then ask them if they want to be your gfIn other words it's an active effort.Waiting in your male dominated hobby space for a stacy or ltb to walk by and seduce you is...retarded.Here is a simple step by step guide>first off you have to look good enough, average looks are fine but you might not get the bestest girl. below average looks are a major hit but if you have some other looks advantage you may be fine(good hair, height, nice body etc)>second you have to find women willing to have sex, not willing to date but willing to fuck. find them online or irl(online is better imo) but you have to start here>talk to them relentlessly with the express purpose of setting up sex, you can talk about other stuff which is recommended for the next couple steps but keep the focus on sex, whether you too are attracted to each other etc>decide if after having sex with this woman(or women depends on your looks and autism level) if she is worth keeping in your domicile after plapping her>if no, plap her or don't doesn't matter since the flow chart ends here>if yes definitely plap her then afterwards immediately ask her if she wants to date you>if she says no sorry buddy its kind of over plap another chic to forget or be like normies and create a roster and see if she wants to be on it>if she says no congrats you have a grand spanking new gf who you already like, already gave you her pussy juices and some top and is already past the awkwardness stage with you.
>>84487917That's why clavicular gets a lot of women?
>>84488068>No they're completely high on oxytocin. Our oxytocin receptors are so burned and atrophied from lack of use that it doesn't matter what you do the anhedonia will always come to bite youPretty much
>>84487713The reality is that they're usually physically attractive and the women pick them. The idea of game is cope. You as the man need to lead but she needs to find you hot. Most 4channers aren't hot so they don't get pussy
>>84488068pretty much, the issue with loneliness is that the brain adapts. You lose the ability to enjoy socializing
>>84487990That's not the optimal, ideal way to live, so we can't do that. Humans are happiest and healthiest when surrounded by loved ones.
>socialize with women>be normal and just enjoy friendship>if there's chemistry you'll know and ask them outWhats there not to get? If you meet new people and one of those people enjoys spending time with you and is compatible it will happen
>>84489127This advice ignores the way loneliness requires the brain. The brain of a person who's been lonely for a long time doesn't produce the chemicals that make socializing enjoyable.
>>84489136Okay just come up with copes and rot then ig
>>84489145It's not a fucking cope, it's science.
>>84489152What you have to do, is force yourself to socialise in small doses. So arrange to meet someone for 30 mins. Dont worry about what to say, just be in the company of another.Then next week another 30 mins and so on, the part of the brain that responds to social interaction remerges. Its how i went two years of isolation to being able to talk :)
>>84489163It takes a lot more than 30 minutes a week.
>>84489163This nigga is beyond saving >>84489178OK then do more than 30 minutes???
>>84489263People have jobs, Anon
>>84487713they are trying to tell you in the nicest possible way not to come off as desperate anon
>>84489263>This nigga is beyond savingYes anons listen to Dr. Zoomer here, he knows all about the psychological problems outcast men face and is very knowledgeable on the matters of society and human behavior.Couldn't you tell by the smooth way he drops his "niggas"?
>>84489325It's the good old casino tactic to keep you playing the game
>>84487917This is only possible with enough experience. A guy needs sexual experiences to "get over" the desperation.
>>84489469That's why most men just lost their virginity with a hooker.
>>84489480I don't think that works. A hooker won't desire you passionately or intimately hold you. Most guys will feel much worse.
>>84487713do you actually not understand how romance can extend naturally from friendship? have you actually tried this? this is how i met my wife
>>84489480Losing my virginity to a hooker did not increase my confidence at all.I had sex, but I'm still missing the experience of actually dating, getting to know, and being intimate with a woman.
>>84489491It's more about just getting the act of sex out of the way and getting used to being intimate with women. It isn't meant to replace having a gf.
>>84489517Sex with a hooker is not intimate
>>84489178Its a gradual increase. 30 mins is a lot depending on length of isolation.You gotta want to get better, or it wont work.
>>84489434if you are going to be such a little bitch about it then opt out and fuck off. worse than foids wanting attention i swear to god
>>84489406You niggers are beyond saving :3
>>84489882Notice how they keep moving the goalpost to avoid doing anything
>>84489882"Just one more roll you'll win big this time"
>>84487713>tissue box and sitting sad while wacking off your small peckerfuck that im spread eagle but naked straight stroking it oiled up long dick style. if i decide to cum, you know im laying in that shit for a bit too.
>>84489163>two years of isolationWhat of someone who's had 6 years of isolation?
>>84489957i said to opt out then you fucking moron
>>84487713I have done both of these. Left is better and more practical as a 30yo man. More money in the bank and I rarely ever get heaches anymore
>>84487773I don't know what I would do if I heard loud moaning desu.
>>84487713>it will happen when you least expect itThey say this because they know they'll find another person>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of datingIf you don't enjoy doing something it will show>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospectsTrue/false. Chatting to women without caring will allow you to relax. But you would need to show interest if you actually are interested in them. If you do this to every woman you're not actually caring who you date and that is stupid
>>84487713>Are normies consciusly gaslihting us?yesnormies have sex once a week minimum for yearsmost virgin robots havent had sex and their 30+i wonder why their suicidal and depressed and REEE a lot.
open door a pill, fruit on a tree pillnormie wants sex, they walk to the tree and pluck a fruit. there's so much abundance they can even ignore the fruit that falls off the treenormie wants a job they write a candid email saying they're having difficulties, and a good job would help them out a lot, skip the interview just get hiredit's not even the chad treatment. it's literally normal mode.
>>84487713>it will happen when you least expect itThis one is definitely not true.>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of datingIt depends on the situation.>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospectsIt's not mutually exclusive, you can do both. Just ignore all the pickup artist bullshit, if you try to trick someone they'll be able to tell, especially if you're a sperg following an e-grifter's script.
>>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of datingThat isn't wrong. The perfect example is /fit/ and "lifting for girls." Many guys will start going to church to "find that church girl." How many guys go to a hobby group expecting a girlfriend yet find out it is a sausage party and the few female members are already taken, or it is filled with a bunch of elderly ladies?
>>84490465Its more funny than anything. You wont get horny, life isnt porn.
>incel expects the same tricks incels have always used and failed at to suddenly work this time>incel unable to navigate the very basics of socializing that comes natural with almost everyone elseThis is comedy gold here. Further proof incels need prunes because they're a disease on society.
>>84491020what is the fine line between treating her as a "romantic prospect" instead of a "person" and being a spineless nice guy who lacks the balls to be uprfront about wanting to fuck her - because women seem to hate both these scenarios.
>>84487713Yeah no shit basic stats prove this also most normies are some level of black pr redpilled
>>84491038Neither. Women don't hate both: they hate YOU. It won't matter what you do or don't do. You are doomed. Face it.
>>84491038You have to build up to it. Flirting is what separates the sex havers from the nice guy virgins. Test the waters and see if you get a bite, if not you accept it and move on.Women don't like weirdos who just confront them out of the blue (usually) but they also don't like cowards who expect things to just fall in their lap. The in-between requires social navigation.
>>84488276Good to hear that because I'm already planning to kill myself and I've been alone for entire life. 35 this year.
>>84491088>in prime time of life >wants to kill himselfShit doesn't truly start downhill until you hit 40.
I would kill to live the life I lived as a robot. I had a decent job, focused on my hobbies, always had money, lots of free time. I injured my spine 2 years ago and sometimes the pain is so bad I can't even think straight, I'm disabled and can't work now, I plan on killing myself in a few years. Some of you faggots just need a decent job, and start acquiring hobbies, it's the most liberating thing you can do if you're healthy, I'm an autist but would make friends while hiking, or fishing. Now I rot away in my room all day.
>>84488454>Telling incels to find a women who wants to have sex with themI already know the answer but are you retarded?>>84491101>Prime time>While my whole life revolves around wage cucking and going home on repeat >Sexeless >No friends>Every attempt to find friends or gf ends in failureYeah it's really prime time
>>84489127>socialize with women>implying women want to socialize with us>implying women show up anywhere
>>84487713why do you autists keep listening to normies?whatever works for them does not work for usunironically doing the opposite of what they say yields better results
>>84491124How is it that icnels are also unable to find friends?Almost as if women aren't the only problem they have
>>84491080>test the waters and see if you get a biteI'm to socially retarded to even know what testing the waters would look like. What counts as "bite"? I know I just laid into a womans lap while we were watching TV on the couch and started caressing her: she said she isn't getting involved with a coworker, but when In asked if I stop touching her she said it feels good and caressed my chest.
>>84491141Years of isolation does the job. I can tell the difference between how I was at age 16-17 and how I am now. But you're to retarded to grasp it. Also who said there are problem in women? Cause you make shit up.
>>84487713>don't go into X hobby/event with the intent of dating>talk to women as people not potential romantic prospectsEspecially these two are straight up evil. If you actually look at and observe the men who get women, they are borderline predatory, they use every possibility to hit on women, they don't have a single genuine interest, they are only here to get laid.The men who don't get pussy? They are actually interested in their hobbies and they talk to women like they would talk to a man, guess what happens, women start to actively dislike them and they die alone.
>>84491197 All my life I've gotten told by women how I am the rare type of guy they could actually talk to. Not only that, they said that with me they can talk about almost anything since I don't shy away from topic considered "gay" to the average dude bro. I am still a virgin at 33, no woman has every seen me "that way". I was seen as a gay- adjunct bestie they kept around, never a guy they'd wanna fuck. I hate women so much I can taste it now.
>>84491986The guy who gets them called them "hot piece of ass" the first time they met and slapped their ass kekEverything women tell you not to do, is how you either actually get laid... or get an harrassment charge thrown at you, it's one of both and both had the exact same behaviour with a different result.
>>84491197>>84492109this. I personally know guys like this and while they are far more successful in attracting women than even a handsome introverted nice guy, they also have a trail of women who consider them complete sleazebags.
>>84492164Yes and although it is impossible for me to behave that way, because I was raised by two loving parents, which, if you are a heterosexual male, is basically a guarantee that you end up being an adult virgin with barely any friends, because in order to actually get with a woman in the 21th century, you have to act the complete opposite of what your parents teach you, which means degenerate sleazebag, you have to lie, cheat, steal and badmouth others or else you will never even kiss a girl.Women can claim whatever the fuck they want, I have eyes, I was active on my campus, I saw, with all the context and what not, what guys got the women, it weren't the tall handsome guys in general, because they are also usually nice people, which means they do got one woman or like 2 in their entire time in university, because they are handsome, but those who had a rooster on women? All comically over the top evil lying degenerates, and for some reason they all were like 5'10/178 cm tops, had a beard, short hair and glasses, might be only a thing in Germany, but these are the guys, straight up psychopaths, who got women while the tall attractive ones had like one at most.
>>84487713so I'm not the average 4channer?my neighbours don't hear my moans, do they? I don't ever hear my neighbours but I don't know if they're fucking
>>84487713>Are normies consciusly gaslihting us? no, you are. Not even half of all men over 24 are in a relationship or have kids but this place keeps running around acting like the 30% that do have sex are the masses.
>men will sit and masturbate listening to us having sex with our bfs
>>84492553I once accidentally smelled my brother's boyspunk when I entered his room and got really fucking horny!I had to masturbate so I could think clearly, I was not proud of it!
>>84488131>>84487917>just stop le caring for women but ill le hecking defend women in every thread anyway and women can smell this obsession too which is bad(??)why do you posers only post this in fundamentally anti-female threads? im a fag that genuinely would prefer all females dead, shut the fuck up you fucking POSERS
>>84487713normies are just want to be slave of foids. dont be like them, stop trying to get gf.
>>84489127autist detected. women do not want to date their male friends lol. that shit makes their stomach drop.
>>84493543Retard detected. worked for me
>>84491143I mean you are definitely in lol you just have to keep going. You're literally caressing her. Just be patient and take things one at a time.Surely you've seen the number of people here who haven't so much as touched a woman who wasn't their mother. You are already way ahead.
>>84491197I know a guy exactly like that but he's a whore and an alcoholic who can't hold a stable relationship. Almost every virgin here is a hopeless romantic who wants something concrete, not just a quick fling in the backseat.
>>84487773I used to live in an apartment with multiple sets of loud neighbors banging at all hours of the day. It's not arousing, it's just fucking annoying.
>>84487713This is such a nice picture, where is it from? It makes me realise I'm not so bad being on the left. I'm not a bad person
I forgot what this thread is even about. I honestly don't care about being in a relationship or having sex anymore. I've accepted the fact that I'll die alone. Simple as.
>>84487917>>84488131Bluepilled shitters like this are so fucking annoying, just stop posting or go to reddit, retard.I already know you're a clueless virgin or low body count yourself because you've never seen how chads actually are also desperate for pussy to the point they'll cuck other guys, they'll try to mog other guys, and etc, all so they can farm more pussy and validation. It's incredible how women can't smell le desperation from chad, can't smell if he's abusive, can't smell if he's an asshole, etc.
>>84492191i thought this shit only happened in the balkans. I have been scouted for modeling as a kid and retained pretty boyish features . but i slways struggled to attract. i made out with a couple if girls but im a 33yo virgin.
>>84487713I am both in this imageI am a serial gooner and I have (nearly daily) sex within a long term monogamous relationshipalso it only "just happens" if you are raised and socialized properly, our generation grew up in isolation and many now incels could've made it if they didn't experience the pandemic during formative years. previous gens didn't have that, and they didn't have the digital world fucking them over further mentally, they didn't have feminism and an unholy amount of porn the way we do today.I don't think there's an easy way out tbqh, if you plug out by yourself you're still alone in a room full of other plugged in people. there's no use doing it alone. I can save myself but I can't save others I feel like
>>84487713Listen to me very carefully. This is just something people say. They honestly don't know what else to say to you. It's like saying: "God works in mysterious ways" or "sometimes things happen for a reason". Don't put so much stock into this kind of talk. It's not genuine, it's not true and it's not useful. Disregard it as small talk, like when someone makes a comment about the weather. It doesn't matter.
>>84487804Imagine failing to get laid in the 80s. That's a special kind of ineptitude.
>>84487917>Women can also smell this desperation and obsession on you like shit seeping through your jeans.They really can't. Please stop saying that. You are perpetuating them to victim blame when you say this because they then tell you that "She should have saw it coming that he was abusive with her sixth sense they used to reject me!">Stop living for women. Live life for yourself.Truth is we are animals that live to reproduce and compete with each other for resources. Unless you are retarded enough to believe in a higher power this is all there is. You won't get through to people here with this boomer mindset of the world. Become more charismatic and come back with better advice.
>>84487948Nta but if you can't find meaning and purpose without a relationship, you're never gonna make it. Friendship is important and having someone to talk to about your problems is crucial, but he's right when he said that you shouldn't make your sole purpose to get a girlfriend. If it happens, it happens and it's a bonus. But you should be willing to do what you want and enjoy life solo.
