>>84502571
Why is it always tattooed dudes that marry whores?

>>84502581
Broken people relate with broken people

>>84502581
>why do trashy men date trashy women
That's the natural order of things they should be dating each other instead of harming innocent virgins

>>84502571
It doesn't matter if you fuck better. That's what you don't understand. As soon as you make her cum harder than the previous guy, the body is nullified.

>>84502571
That's one of the few discussions that are closed. There's no angle for you to try to challenge it, even using muh christian forgiveness

I looked on the comments and as always, just ad hominem at best. Ignoring it might be the only answer for someone in that position

>>84502608
which is something that becomes less likely the higher her body count. congratulations, you finally got it.

>>84502608
>>your wife fucked another man before
That doesn't change that fact. Yes, you can be better than the previous ones, so what? This isn't a competition. You're better than a dog, but if your woman fucked one, it's still disgusting

>>84502608
No, retard, that doesn't cancel out the fact that someone else had her first.

>>84502614
It's always guaranteed for me. Cope harder.

>>84502608
If I fuck a woman and she doesn't enjoy it at all, and then you come along and marry her and give her mind blowing orgasms, I won. Because I fucked your wife.

Meanwhile, you are still a crying virgin wondering why no girl wants them and they'll die a virgin. You are just coping while claiming others are coping.

>>84502571
>urr durr, someone fucked her before
So what, nigga? Is this person fucking her now? Does this person has access to her pussy? Does this person can feel pleasure with her?

We live in the now, not in the past or the future.

>incels: "don't judge me on my past!!!!!"
>also incels: *judges people on their past*

>>84502664
What past?

>>84502677
Any mistake or cringe thing you have done.

>>84502681
I almost tripped last week, how many sex partners does this translate to for women?

>>84502571
I think a major factor as to why women get the ick is because men treat them with respect when they don't feel they deserve it. Now why don't they feel like they deserve it? Because they're hoes, hoes that have been passed around and thus they've been habituated into seeing themselves as meat. So when a guy treats them with respect, to them the guy is signaling that he views himself as an "equal" in some respect, at least equal enough to treat with respect instead of as meat. If she's meat, and the guy is "equal" to her, then he's just as bad if not worse. She's used to being used so that creates some kind of expectation on how relationships are supposed to be, that if you aren't using someone then you're being used. This is how they come to see the respectful guy as being beneath them. The fact they pronounce how proud they are, how much they deserve, that they get an "ick", really betrays their feelings of inferiority for being a slut. What conclusion can we gather from this? That you really shouldn't bother, even if dark triad tactics work that it isn't worth it because it'd only work for someone who's broken. Healthy secure women don't get icks nor feel as though being shown respect means the one expressing it is inferior. Unfortunately mentally healthy people are fewer and fewer and number, women especially since they're especially prone to neuroticism.

>>84502664
>>incels: "don't judge me on my past!!!!!"
First, I'm a volcel. Second, which incel says that? I never heard it

>>84502651
oh man, you actually believed her when she told you that?

>>84502696
>using shitty analogy
As expected from /r9k/. Women can get access to men with the snap of their finger. The point is that you are quick to judge others but you hate being judged on yours. Don't like it, deal with it.

>>84502721
>volcel
Lie.

>which incel says that?
All the time. You don't read much, do you? Either that or you are just being dishonest.

>>84502664
>incels: *gets relentlessly judged by women for their past all their lives*
>also incels: *judges women for their past*
>women: *pisses and shids pants for eternity*

>>84502741
>Using shitty analogy
Most direct clear concise response to what you said. What past is being judged?

>>84502658
>We live in the now, not in the past or the future.
No, we live in the three simultaneously. I'll give you a simple example, but since you're low IQ, I doubt you'll understand

>you wake up (present)
>you go work out to stay health and get stronger (present and future)
>your muscles are strong now because of your past workouts (past)
>you eat breakfast despite not feeling particularly hungry, but you know that if you don't eat, you'll get hungry soon (future)
>you go to work with the skill you developed (past) to earn a living to live (present) and do what you want in your free time (future)
>....
We live in the present with the results and experience from the past while expecting the future. It's impossible to separate them individually

>>84502771
you almost got it

>>84502802
it was wrong nonetheless

>>84502771
>It's impossible to separate them individually
Niggers can, to a certain degree. That's why they're obsessed with sex and don't regret doing bad things. They don't think about the future, just the now
That's also why they never invented the wheel

This topic has been heavy on my mind recently.

Triggered by an confession of a friend that told me that his wife mentioned to him that he is at the bottom of the list when it comes to sex out of all the men she slept with (17+ men).

How can you live with a woman, without lying to yourself or coping in some way, knowing that when she thinks of her best sexual encounter she is thinking of another man.

Rope fuel i tell you.

You're only truly an incel cuck if you date a woman who has a kid that isn't yours

I slept with 11 women before I met my wife and she slept with 13 guys before she met me. I can say with absolute certainty that it is disgusting. Women don't care and they don't understand but it is disgusting. There's no cope. It's just hard reality and you have to deal with it you lived your life wrong. Simple as.
Modern Life is completely messed up.
I do love her. She'll never understand what a hurdle it is to know those numbers. That's just how it is.
The only cope is seeing it for what it is. We are two people that love each other and wanted to have family together. It's a ton of work. A bunch of other guys got to sleep with her and do no work. Seems unfair but this is a relationship based around forming a family. You decide when you want to get out of the dating game. You could say I had my fun, I guess. But it's extremely clear that I would be much happier if we met as virgins like Christians say we should.
I think women's biological drives are in opposition to this. Peak. Experience for a female is sampling many men and then picking the one you want at the end, regardless of your aging body. They are getting what they want now but at the detriment of their relationship quality. I agree with the op though, there's no cope around this. Only acceptance

Not longer after meeting my ex we talked about past boyfriend (I had no past girlfriends) of hers and she said she usually dated guys who were younger than her, and I asked why and she said something along the lines of they have better stamina in bed. She was pretty aggressive and had a high libido, but her saying that was pretty gross to me. She had a kind of male sense of humour in that respect. Another time during our second date it was at a theatre performance and I asked her if she'd been to one before and she said yes several times and I said did you go alone or with friends and she said she usually went with a guy. Maybe it was my fault for asking, I don't know. She also told me within like 2 months of meeting me that she had made out with tons of girls when she was a teenager, and that she had never had sex with one but thought about doing that one day. I don't know man, maybe I'm a little repressed or whatever but sometimes I felt a little grossed out by how open she was.

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>>84502571
if a woman gets cummed inside of raw by 20 different dudes, yeah that's fucking gross. but if a woman has never had sex without using a condom, what's the problem? to be fair thoughever it'd be hard to believe if a chick told me that

>>84502893
>that his wife mentioned to him that he is at the bottom of the list when it comes to sex out of all the men she slept with (17+ men).
Jesus that's horrifying. How did that come up. Why did they get married

>>84503236
>every woman whores out starting 16years old
>every woman gets on birth control since puberty
>the concept of sexual health is dogshit
result: every woman has been rawdogged, thus, never believe if a woman tells you she hasn't fucked without a condom

>>84503185
>I slept with 11 women before I met my wife
you're a manslut
>A bunch of other guys got to sleep with her and do no work
a bunch of other chicks fucked you and she's still around
two whores, perfect for each other

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>>84503236
>a 0.05mm rubber in the way change things up

based thread. copes are useless

>>84502571
>anime profile picture
>cuck fantasy
cool cool

>>84502608
insane cope that ends in divorce rape, every single time

Nobody says this about the bull when he cucks someone's relationship. In fact you're trying to cuck relationships right now, but not even getting pussy for it. That's the ultimate cuckold, all work, no reward. Prove me wrong.

>>84503764
>>muh cuck projection
It's funny how you guys never say that it's a lie. You know it

>ignoring it and accepting it
Based guy!
>bringing facts up
Cuck!

It's insane how 90% of the population are genuine subhumans

>>84503464
>two whores, perfect for each other
That's true. We're both corrupt and our relationship suffers for it. I hope you all find people less messed up than us or at least live happier lives

>>84502893
That doesn't sound very woman-like. Generally if a women likes you, or at least wants to keep access to you, she won't tell the truth like that. That's just really fucking brutal to tell your partner. That is really hurtful. It's not like sex is even that complicated, so she's basically saying that he evokes the least emotions in her during coitus.

>>84504217
>>84503437

I guess they got married because it was her time to marry someone and he was around to do it.

They started off good in the beginning, having crazy sex everywhere. but after the honeymoon period was over, i guess she started loosing respected for him based on a few major mistakes he made and the fact that she earns more then him, and that he is always getting bitchslapped by his boss, never getting his salary on time. He is a pushover even though he is over 6 feet and looks above average.

As far as my personal relationship goes - i was the first one to give her an orgasm, so that's that. But i hate that she had other man in her life. There is something about someone being able to say they fucked your wife, even if they did a terrible job, that I can never be ok with.

What can you do man. Even the cute shy girls had at least one partner if you meet them at 20-22. And you can't cope your way around it.

I am proud of my brother though - he fucked a decent amount of good looking woman and married someone that he took her virginity. So it can be done, but you got to look the part and have the attitude.

>>84502571
serial monogamy and actual promiscuity really shouldn't be lumped in the same category
ive fucked other women before so i dont see why i should really be bothered by the former. the latter should be burned with fire though

>>84502614
Actually no, more experienced women get more orgasms from sex because cumming from dick takes skill from a woman lol

>>84505460
> that he is always getting bitchslapped by his boss, never getting his salary on time.
Major orgasm and attraction killer for women btw. Nothing, absolutely nothing in this world is more pathetic than a man that let's himself be abused by another man.

>>84505491
I agree with you. They should love and understand you in theory. But they are put off by displayed weakness. I told my guy to do something about it. I truly believe that his wife could start getting attracted to his boss, because of the way he is treating her husband.

On that note, I have never had a job, never been employed by someone else. Can't stomach the idea of asking another man permission to take a day off. Worked out so far, hope I can keep it going for 25 more years.

>>84502658
>Is this person fucking her now? Does this person has access to her pussy? Does this person can feel pleasure with her?
Yes he can do it all, and this would be completely legal.

>>84505475
The goal is to get her to pair bond with you, if you intend to be with her. It is much easier to do when her first experiences are with you.

Let's take blowjobs for example. you remember you first one, or the best one, but not number 234.

Face it, who fucked her first owns an important part of her soul. And there is nothing you can do about it. You have the honor of being with her when she is menopausal and needs financial support.

I took my wife's virginity and gave her the first orgasm she'd ever had. Honestly I don't think I could have ever gotten married otherwise. I'd had sex before I met her too, but it's a possession thing. She either belongs to you, or she doesn't. I broke up with an ex over that once, because I couldn't get over it.

>>84502658
>we live in the now
>nigga
Yes, people like you definitely do because that's what you are. There is no past, no future, no ancestry, no heritage. Only a perpetual now.
Even dogs remember the past. They're better than you.

>>84502741
>Women can get access to men with the snap of their finger.
Yes, that really sums up the problem. They're gluttons with an infinite buffet. It's "My 600lb Life" but with bodies instead of meals.

I don't mind that my girlfriend fucked other people before me because I fucked other people before her.

>>84505708
Getting sex as a man requires work. Getting sex as a woman requires nothing (she simply has to exist).
Men's sex is an accomplishment, women's sex is just indulgence.

>>84505778
A lock opened by any key is valueless, a key that opens any lock is invaluable.

>>84502571
I quadruple my gfs bodycount. Am i a whore? Am i her whore? Am i a a valueable man? Am i a trashy man? Kys OP. Its more important to me that she is childless and mentally stable also its great to fuck women that know what they are doing in bed, unexperienced women dont know how to suck my dick properly. Retard

>>84502581
>why do manwhores marry whores?

Real conundrum

>>84505778
>Getting sex as a woman requires nothing
If she wants to fuck some random, average dude, sure. Takes effort if you want to pull someone hot.

It's also surprisingly easy to pull decent looking women if you're sociable and laid back. I wouldn't call the majority of my lays "accomplishments".

>>84505809
That's why your mum calls me the locksmith lmao

>>84505870
>calls me the locksmith
Pablo did you lock yourself out of your house again? You still owe us $500 dollars for the previous call out fees

>>84505886
Kinda weak banter mate ngl

>>84502893
>Triggered by an confession of a friend that told me that his wife mentioned to him that he is at the bottom of the list when it comes to sex out of all the men she slept with (17+ men).
lmao your friend

>>84505911
I gave back what I was given

>>84502571
I would say there is a difference between a porn star and a modern woman but the only difference is a porn star will get paid to be a whore while modern women do it for the luls or a dinner.

>>84506024
You wouldn't get lots of sex for fun if you were a woman, knowing there is 100% a man that will marry you afterwards and not judge you for it? Liar.

>>84506074
I bet the hamster in your brain died a long time ago.

>>84506101
What's with the incel gripe about paying for dinner, by the way? You should be happy and lucky if a woman decides to spend her evening with you sex or no sex. When did men become so damn cheap and entitled
Women have their own money they don't go around selling blowjobs for tenders if they want sex they just have sex

>>84502581
>why are retards retaded?
the world might never know.
>>84506115
>buy my body
>you must buy me
>I don't sell
>just fucking buy me already
the absolute state of propaganda

>>84502697
Thrvth nvke. We are playing a lost game.

>>84502893
Im scared my gf say something like this to me. I can make her moan and even orgasm in bed, but she has complained about my dick size a bit.

>>84506240
That's weird. Why would she be with you? I'd never lock down a guy if he was so small or bad in bed it irritated me or made me miss old lovers

>>84506240
mine never complained about my size (average size i guess). but i guess it is just a mix of respect / fearing the consequences.

Seeing her reaction to taking an 8 inch thick dildo, it is a night and day difference in the level of excitement and the kind of orgasms she has. the sounds she makes. she mentioned that she came like a mare and had a hands free orgasm from it alone while never doing that on my dick without some extra stimulation. Also almost chocked herself deepthroathing it as far as she can.

Can you even know what she is think about in that moment? Can she be so trilled about a piece of silicone? Seeing how easy it slides in her pretty tight pussy makes you wonder - what experiences she had or what experiences she would like to have if it weren't for the limitations of the real world ( ex: hard to find that size, might not stay, might not provide etc)

>>84506331
I dont think she miss old lovers, she only wishes my dick was bigger. The dickpill is brutal. I can make her orgasm by using my fingers only. I think she genuinely likes me, but she has devilish personality.

>>84502571
Nigger who are these people

>>84506415
Mine didn't really complain directly to me, but she insinuated that she prefers bigger than what I have. Dickpill is the most brutal because you cannot really improve this. You have to accept.

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>>84502571
>It's simply a checkmate
he says while posting alone while the person he's calling a cuck is in a loving relationship
damn sure is lonely at the top

>>84506454
Why hold on to her then? why not set her free to find what she is looking for? I do not want to be that guy, but i truly believe that she would 100% leave if she finds a guy similar in qualities as you, but with an bigger dick. It is just that that theoretical guy is looking for someone with bigger tits or some other quality she doesn't poses. So you are not really desired but winning because you are the only one in the race.

they won't submit to you if they feel you are not dominating them.

>>84506454
>but she insinuated that she prefers bigger than what I have
i don't think i could get over this but then again i'm khhv so idk what else you're getting from the relationship but that would end up just always being the weakpoint that anything else that ever comes up will cling to and end up tearing the relationship apart.
sexual compatibility imo is one of the cornerstones and if you don't have strong cornerstones then you don't have a strong relationship.

>>84502646
some one is ok, some three hockey team rosters along with the coaches and waterboys is too much. she'll have the amazon delivery drivers dick down her throat at the first opportunity

>>84506456
Epstein enjoyed life more than 99% of people and was in a loving relationship, what is your point?
>muh happiness above all
That always backfires

>>84506562
he and people like him intentionally destroyed the marriage market

>>84506530
Sluts can be faithful too there is relationship mode and single mode.

>cope saying that you're also a degenerate (that doesn't work either because men and women are different)
Can't you guys read? At least 10 faggots used that as a cope

>>84506474
The thruth is that Im genuinely happy with her, its just sometimes this does bother me, like 90% of my time with her Im happy, but the 10% i aint im thinking about things like this. And the things you said about someone with similar qualities to mine is unlikely to happen, since Im personalitymaxxed and my gf actually loses from breaking up with me, she knows that, and she doesn't have better options. She is never finding someone like me. Im somewhat attractive and her type, we have had good moments together that she will never have with anyone else. Its better to cope and not lose her than to be alone.

>>84506592
Thats the same way i feel about myself. but i hate that i had to personalitymaxx to get something some people get from just existing. and i hate that she doesn't leave because there isn't a better option realistically, not because she really wants to stay with all her heart.

for example i decided i wouldn't leave my girlfriend even if somebody could prove that someone else would be much better for me. but i don't think she would do that. which invalidates the happy times spent together in a way.

i don't want you to ruin your relationship, as it is hard to find someone you actually like being with.

but at the same time, if you are who you say you are you could find some girl extra happy with your dick.

i hate that she brings it up that she wants a bigger dick. i want my girlfriend to have huge breast like her mother, but I would never say that to her or imply it, if i am not selfish. Allthough i can see your girlfriends frustration, seeing all these big breasted woman around it making me go in a frenzy sometimes. and i have to rationally talk myself out of it and i hate that.

>>84506502
>so idk what else you're getting from the relationship
Love
>sexual compatibility imo is one of the cornerstones and if you don't have strong cornerstones then you don't have a strong relationship.
Im very sexually compatible with her, as said before, im even able to make orgasm. She just told me a preference

>>84505842
>mentally stable
Neither you or her are mentally stable. One thing in common among degenerates is that they all think they're special and will not be affected by the consequences

Just like how tards smoke crack thinking they won't get addicted or get side effects. You aren't special.

That's dumb because very few men have a virgin fetish or "deflowering" fetish.
Most men don't give a shit and don't even consider it a factor.

Its like saying "Oh, I personally have a fat fetish, so that must mean that all men are secretly seething that their wives aren't fat since fat women are clearly superior".
Like, okay dude. Whatever

>>84506709
>virgin fetish or "deflowering" fetish
You're already too far gone. What's next, breeding fetish?

>>84506631
>i hate that i had to personalitymaxx to get something some people get from just existing.
This. My gf is worse because she has had relationships with people that abused her and beat her, and even forgave one of them again, and for me she plays the difficult sometimes.
I feel the same to you, in the fact im completely in trance with my gf. There are better women I could be with, better bodies and better personalities, better lives all around, but Im still with her because I genuinely like her, but Im not sure if she finds a chad she will do the same as me. She might succumb.

>>84506643
That's why I appreciate when tards at least can admit that what they do fuck them up. Like smokers advising kids to not smoke

You need to be a ginormous retard to think you can fight against something that literally mess with your hormones

Casual sex fucks up your oxytocin and dopamine receptors, makes pair bounding harder, higher depression, etc. period. If you think you aren't being compromised by it, you're either too dumb or too arrogant

>>84506799
You are just saying that because you're unable to do it

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>>84502581
I kind of wanted a tattoo and piercings because I wanted to chase the NTR evildoer look but I hate the idea that non-virgin whores will think I'm compatible with them

>>84502608
Is sex all you think about

>>84502658
The present consists of our memories of the past. Every second you spend with her, you also spend with memories of her getting fucked by other men.

>>84502697
Interesting point

>>84506807
Unable to do what? Get wasted on a bar and pick another wasted bitch to fuck for momentary pleasure?
Any retard under the sun can do that

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A cope a day keeps the scythe away

>>84502664
>incel past: not having friends
>slut past: sucking the cock of everyone, even dogs
Yeah, they're the same thing

>>84505475
source: the crack pipe that's inside my ass

>>84502581
I don't believe your false-premised question. It's not always tattooed dudes that marry whores.

>>84502945
This man married a used up whore and is coping lmao. Point and laugh

>>84503185
You're part of the problem but at least you kinda get it. Do you ever think that you ruined 11 other women for 11 other men?

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>>84502658
>Does this person has access to her pussy?
yes once you two break up.
she still follows those guys on IG and views their stories and looks at their posts. theyre one dm away from being back in her vagina the second u two break up.

if you think this is doomerism or blackpill nonsense, you're mistaken. this is reality for most women, and all younger women.

>>84506790
I don't want to leave her because i wasted her youth and is not fair to leave now. She is also someone that cam deal with my attitude. Helps that she almost never rejects me when i want to have sex. And looked good enough that even women that rejected me where upset that she looked better then them.

But she orgasms on a large dildo handfree and doesn't on my dick with extra stimilation and that starting to bother me.

I need to be her best everything, for me not for her, if it makes sens. And the only other thing i need to be that is one lowsy orgasm without touching her clit, just from my dick. Am i crazy?

I am fine if someone else can do what I can, but to think that someone else can what you can't is something that weighs heavy on my mind

>>84502655
Dying a virgin is better than getting married

>>84505870
>It's also surprisingly easy to pull decent looking women if you're sociable and laid back.
yeah not everyone is tall and attractive

>>84506709
>things that were considered baseline normal and the bare minimum in the past are now fetishes
grim.

>>84507006
You are demonizing it with hyperbole because you can't get a cute girl to watch smiling friends episodes and suck your dick just by sending a pic of your arms

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>>84502634
The logic for cuckoldry is that you are better than the previous ones who fuck her and the current ones who fuck her. So in that way a married cuckold is actually MORE secure than a guy who fucks a non-virgin.

>>84502581
Same class, tattoos are like a guarantor of promiscuity, the great majority of the ones who have it partake in promiscuity.

>>84505472
What?
If a girl had one boyfriend per year from 16 to 26 years old, that's already 10 bodies. If that isn't promiscuous then that word has no meaning

>>84505472
Serial monogamist is a misnomer. Monogamy means one person. A woman cheating on her future husband before she even meets him is still cheating. Saying it was only like five or ten guys and they all bought her a cheeseburger first before she started slobbing their knobs doesn't make it OK. Far from a monogamist by any stretch of the term, that's a prolific adulteress.

>>84507059
kek absolutely losers
why would you ever believe in romance when chad fucked your girl for free and he was completely unromantic but she did some mental gymnastics to invent how "romantic" he must have been.

No woman would ever love me unconditionally so what is the point of pursuing them?

>>84502571
This is just a cuck fetishist post.
>that doesn't work either because men and women are different
how convenient

>>84508829
This is the real problem. If she's had sex with a man she wasn't married to, it means she was always open to that idea. That is incompatible with the devotion guys here are missing. Base incels just obsess over the sexual dimension of it becaues they're apes.

>>84508829
I've been thinking about love. there is no unconditional love. my mother loves me conditionally. loves my brother more. so what should i expect from a stranger.

Also, when you say that you love someone you actually love the way they make you feel, not that person. as soon as they stop making you feel what you want to feel, you stop loving them.
So it is conditional.

if it is unconditional, you shouldn't change your feeling just because she fucked or is fucking other guys.

So your goal is to find a woman that respects you and that you can fuck and live with.

>>84509191
>>that doesn't work either because men and women are different
>how convenient
Refute it without resorting to feminism

>my gf had a 10 men gangbang 1 day before we started dating?
perfectly normal, the past is the past insecure chuds!
>my gf sent a flirty message to someone 1 day after we started dating?
omg emotional cheating im having a panic attack and i have to go to therapy!
normalfag logic is ABSURD

>>84509390
chudfucious say master key open many lock is good key but lock open for many key is bad lock or something

>>84509538
It makes sens even if you do not understand it. The flirty message shows intent to escalate and cheat. I find the intention as bad as doing the act (sex).

I have a friend that caught his wife 10 years ago chatting with another guy on Facebook.

But forgave her because she didn't get to physically cheat so the damage didn't seem so bad.

This year she cheated with a different guy and they got to the sex part and he had to break.

He should have dropped her there and there.

And I don't recommend accepting a 10 gangbang girl. Although interestingly some of them really have their fun and then decide to be faithful. The part that hurts is that a virgin can do as much or worse damage to you as a woman with 100 ex lovers. My friends wife was a virgin and he took her virginity.

>>84509728
Your choice as a sub10 male is to either marry a whore who will compare you to every better experience she's ever had, or marry a virgin who will compare you to every hypothetically better experience you stole from her.

>>84509752
so, what to do? i hate that i am attracted to woman and need them in my life. but i just am.

>>84509728
>The part that hurts is that a virgin can do as much or worse damage to you as a woman with 100 ex lovers
No one with more than one braincell thinks that virgin women are saints that can't fail. The difference is that they're way less likely to fail where it matters (cheating and divorce)
Also, besides cheating, which is unforgivable, a virgin woman failure is often more acceptable

For example, your virgin wife doesn't want to give you blowjob. That sucks and it's almost unacceptable, but if she was a whore that sucked 100 cocks before you, that's way more offensive. What do you mean that you sucked a hundred dicks before me, but now that's out of the table?

>>84510031
Yes, getting told no feels like you are just a beta provider. Chad didn't even have to ask. He just took what he wanted and she was trilled to give it away for free,

The guy she cheated with fucked her pussy and ass raw and came in her pussy the first time. brought toys for the second encounter. wife was doing missionary with the husband looking at the clock.

>>84507857
>You're part of the problem but at least you kinda get it. Do you ever think that you ruined 11 other women for 11 other men?

Yes and I deeply regret it. I'm really ashamed of the ones I slept with and didn't call back. I was a very fucked up alcoholic for a lot of my early 20s and usually too depressed to do anything but go to work.

There are at least six women who remember me as some asshole who slept with them and then didn't get back in touch. I feel really grossy about it. And I think I actually deserve to sit and experience the fact that my life slept with these people.

There's a cope where basically you've had enough sex with people you barely know that your relationship with sex kind of changes. It's just not the same as those innocent early relationships. There's like a tear of people I existed in where you have sex on the second or third date and it's standard. Everyone's pretty decent looking, hipsters, drug use. Not totally degenerate like you'd imagine, but more cosmopolitan sort of thing. That's the world I lived in. You meet someone hot at a party and you go on one date and you might even have sex on that date.

I don't know. Probably most of the women I slept with are some kind of feminist now and their husband copes and tells himself it's fine and she tells herself it's fine. It's obviously not though. And I was caught up in the hedonistic modern diseased culture. I'm honestly just sad about falling for it and working on being a good person now.

If you didn't fall for it, I think you should congratulate yourself. There's so much pressure to feel like a man because you've had casual sex. The truth is it's completely worthless and you end up marrying your whorematch most likely. Most level-headed decent women can just clock me as not right for them. It's never really been an option for me to land a good Christian girl and it's far too late. And I wouldn't want to take that away from somebody who deserves it

>fetishizing virgin women

There is nothing wrong have little attractions or quirks, but men who fetishize virgin women are so insecure about it.
You got men that are into fat chicks or into asian chicks, and they are pretty chill about it. They aren't insecure about it. They just go out and marry the girls they like.
But men who are into virgin chicks feel the need to constantly justify themselves or trash non-virgins in a way that other fetishists don't.
Just chill out. Go to church and get a religious woman, or filter for christians on dating apps or whatever.
We live in an age where it is easier than ever to date someone to your preferences. There is literally no excuse to be bitter.

>>84502581
Desecrating one's body for superficial pleasure is incredibly effeminate so they are kin

>>84510305
First you're retarded for diminishing it to a fetish, that's like calling loyalty a fetish, it's the bare minimum. Second, there's billions of asian and fat women while only ~10% of women from 18-22 are virgins, beyond that they're basically inexistent
>Go to church and get a religious woman
Imagine thinking that christian women are virgins lol
>We live in an age where it is easier than ever to date someone to your preferences
Yeah, because women are famous for not lying, right?
>There is literally no excuse to be bitter
Saying the truth is not being bitter.

>>84510472
>how dare you diminish my preferences as a mere fetish when it is clearly an objective measure of attractiveness and everyone else is crazy for not believing otherwise
Ask anyone else with any sort of fetish and they will say the same thing.

Again, you are just someone with a weird quirky preference. And you won't even date virgins because of your weird hangups and hiding behind excuses like "oh, there aren't many virgins" or "women will lie about it" or whatever.
So what is even the point of arguing?

>>84502658
>Is this person fucking her now?
More than likely yes. There's a better chance of her fucking one of her previous lovers than her being 100% loyal to you.

>>84510532
>And you won't even date virgins because of your weird hangups and hiding behind excuses like "oh, there aren't many virgins" or "women will lie about it" or whatever
I'm not dating a virgin because I want to retire first. For regular people, waiting until you're "set up" is dumb, but I'll retire in 3 years when I make 28 years old, so it isn't a big problem to wait
Also, those aren't excuses, it's the truth. 10% of 18-22 yo women sounds like a lot, but that's just a few hundred in a medium city of ~200k habitants, and that's without considering beauty, weight, race, personality, etc. Now mix it up with the liars and good luck finding one that you fancy without help

>>84510719
There are thousands of tradLARPer women around these days. Finding a woman with the same values as you is easy as shit, especially these days with things like dating apps.
Hurry up and marry a virgin so you can stop this obnoxious defense of your preferences. No one wants a lecture about the superiority of virgin women any more than they want to here about how fat chicks are superior or how guys with big dicks are superior or any of the other fetishizing preferences.

>>84510827
Virgin women ARE superior though. Don't know why this fact of life chafes your ass. There's thing called pair bonding and it doesn't matter how many times to try to cope or deny it's existence it's a thing. And it's perfectly natural for men to not want to stick their dick where another man has stuck his. There's plenty of cucks out there for you that love the fact most women are whores. But mentally healthy normal men aren't gonna break on this.

>>84510840
Again, someone into chubby girls, asian chicks, or men with big dicks would give me the same spiel you just did.
Everyone thinks their fetishes are superior.
Which is fine, but stop being insecure about it.
Stop arguing endlessly about their superiority, go marry a sexy virgin and shut up about it.
Everyone feels uncomfortable by fetishizing. People would just be happy if you stopped this insecurity.

>>84510827
>There are thousands of tradLARPer women around these days
If you think most of them are genuine, you've a hole in your brain. Principally in dating apps
Most trad girls are the same as feminists, the difference is that they """regret""" their past

>>84510861
Saying that wanting a virgin is a fetish is like saying that eating to stay alive is a fetish. This is a normal state of man. Your pathetic attempt at gaslighting isn't working.
>insecure
The classic cuck cope. We see you for what you are.

>>84510305
all the virgins are ugly, and incels dont want truly ugly women, they want that one in a hundred lucky chance mid tier or lower high tier girl that somehow never had contact with a male

>>84510236
You seem like a good egg anon, I hope you find peace

There's no real alternative. Either you marry your high school sweetheart or accept the fact that whoever you're getting is "used goods". Even if her body count is below 5, trust and believe she fucked some of those 5 guys all the time, inside, outside, every position, every hole etc. People think 5 is still "good girl" territory when honestly even 2 is pretty bad.

>>84502608
You guys are so delusional. Go step outside in a crowd, it's very unlikely you are the best man on any particular city block. now realize most hot women have slept with men MUCH more attractive than you, especially in college. Now you're seeing that it's pretty much impossible to be "the best"

>>84510966
Ahh, you are right. You convinced me.
You better go to church and marry a virgin right now so you can prove how superior it is and shut up about it.

It's not like they have alternative, all women are whores nowadays

That is a thought to negative for most minds, so copes are all that is left

>>84510990
Another sweet cope
Look at prostitutes, pornstars and obvious sluts. Most are ugly as sin or butterfaces

Adriana Lima married a virgin and she was one of the top women in the world in her youth

>>84507908
Bro, life isn't worth living if you aren't having sex. Image having to do all the bullshit, toil, and hardships of life and you don't even get to have sex

>>84507865
My friend was telling me that she was in a relationship with someone and was still regularly communicating with her ex.

>>84511131
That's why it's pure cuckoldry to get married in the big 26

>>84502893
This is the real reason most women stop having sex with their husbands. Most "husbands" are guys that weren't able to enjoy their youths so their sex is terrible

>>84511294
Virgin and low body count marriages overwhelmingly have a higher sexual satisfaction rate
>t-that's because you didn't experienced enough dicks and don't know what is good!
Even if that's true, so what? What matters is perceived. Are you going to fuck literally all people in the world to pick the one that is 100% "sexually compatible"?

And that's ignoring the fact you can get better with time even if you fuck only one person if there's a good communication between you

>>84505708
That's really the crux of the issue. If a guy has lots of bodies and his girl only has a handful, he can live with that. If the guy is a virgin or close to a virgin and the girl has been around, he would feel like he is a fool.

>>84502581
tatts are low IQ and low class

>>84502571
WHOA WHOA WHOA BRO.
Yeah some other guy fucked her and nutted on her face, but she's going to snuggle with me later tonight, so who really wins

>>84510031
Your virgin wife not wanting to suck your dick is also offensive because it means she doesn't find you attractive anymore. Women LOVE sucking the dicks of guys they actually like, that's why a woman will hook up with a guy and just give blowjobs and be satisfied from that.

>>84511377
The reality though is that are you really going to not have sex in college and in your 20s? When people say they're going to wait until marriage that doesn't mean waiting until 20-21 like it used to mean that sometimes means waiting until 30-31. You really think people are willing to sacrifice their best years not having sex just for the CHANCE of marrying someone that might have had more partners than them.

>>84511491
>You really think people are willing to sacrifice their best years
You know what you're implying here right?

>>84511491
>that sometimes means waiting until 30-31
Then you really aren't trying. If you try hard, you can find a good woman in 6-12 months. Then date her for 1 year and marry
Less than 2 years total for something that'll last for most of your life