Tell me again why inceldom is such a terrible fate?
maybe you can live alone and isolatedi can't
>>84529165I constantly see normies say shit like "my wife said I can't go" or "my wife made me get rid of my game consoles" or "my wife made me sleep on the couch because I forgot to take the trash out" or "I got in an argument with my wife and even though I knew I was right I let her win because otherwise it would mean no more sex for the rest of my life." And they call me the weird one for saying that's not for me?
>>84529165The gift thing is really blackpilling. So many foids aren't in love with their husbands or boyfriends, they're in love with the gifts they give them, which is why they leave the second the gifts stop.
>>84529165>stresslife is inherently stressful regardless if a woman is around >fleeting beauty everyone gets old, you wont be young and as attractive anymore either>complaining about fattiesfat people are not attractive, this is redundant >men think only stacy is worth pursuing nothing revolutionary is being said here>children are a burden everyone knows men want kids like a kid wants a puppy. the idea of having one is cool to play with and teach it a thing or two but the kid doesnt wanna be the actual responsible one and take care of it aka feed it take it out for piss and walks and being patient with itmen dont buy women gifts anymore. or ever. they dont even take them out on dinner dates anymore because everything is too expensive. this meme is outdated
>>84529539Women are completely incapable of unconditional love. You can do everything for her but the second you forget to take out the trash once it's like none of it ever mattered.
>>84529285A lot of people who say "My wife/husband said I can't" are actually just using their spouse as an excuse to avoid shit they personally don't want to do. I have a married friend who often uses his wife as an excuse for not going to big gatherings, but somehow his wife has never had a problem with just me and him hanging out. I've known him since long before he was married and he has always preferred socializing 1 on 1 or in small groups over big groups.
>>84529165>Congratulations, it's a burdenSigh I want intimacy and companionship and to start a familyI'm a bog standard human
>>84529178all the aspects of females are way more painful than the slight pain of being in solitude
>>84529285I feel better about being an incel when I realize that most married men probably have just as much sex as I do
>>84531388Most of them have never had sex in their entire marriage without having to do something in return.
>>84529165op has obviously never felt the loving touch of a woman. honestly pitiful.
>>84529587anons who reply like this should be shot in the head. that includes (you)
>>84531902That's awesome for him, hope the little nigga never falls for the love meme.
imagine you get with a cute twink instead, you get the benefit of sex and none of the negatives of women
>>84529165Because we're biologically programmed to desire the female body and touch by nature to motivate us to produce offspring at our own self-sacrifice. That's the only reason it sucks. Anybody with a IQ above room temperature has figured out relationships with women are a bad one-sided deal in the modern day. But you can never escape touch starvation and your own basic human needs. That's why it sucks and goofball simps go to such lengths of humiliation and self-torture to have access to a broad. You're never going to really "talk yourself" out of it you just have to keep making decisions with your frontal lobe and not your dick and live with the pain of solitude.
>>84532144Normies will never understand what it's like to evolve beyond the primal need for sex. They can't comprehend the idea of being happy alone. The only downside is that we can't pass this on to the next generation
>>84532118yeah but their standards for looks are even higher than women's
>>84532144We should all follow are natural instincts without regard to the situation?
>Tell me again why inceldom is such a terrible fate?It is only relatively better than being a cuck in 2026.In the past boys like us were included in the community, taught to be men and women wanted a tradhusband like us, a straight laced square, being autistic was actually a bonus. Now they want some gangsta nigga thug nigga or whatever or they create an instagram to sell their noods to a million 'jeets or fly to dubai so a sheikh can poop on their chest.Now tell me, how is any of this good? It could have all been avoided, it would have been very simple too, if we just stayed where we were at in the 1950s, shit even the 1990s would have been fine. All we had to do was reject the social engineering projects they keep trying to impose on us. If we all did this, all at once, and refused to compromise, there would be nothing they could do.
>>84532144>Extrovert's lamentMeh. I'm an actual robot introvert who needs 8+ hours of alone time a day. I don't think I've been touched by another human being since 2011 and it doesn't mean a thing to me.I don't have to talk myself out of shit. How did you find yourself coming to the sad autist board as a extroverted touch-lover? Did reddit send you over?
>>84529165>Nooooo anon you're supposed to chase women until you find one who's willing to settle for you as her retirement plan because... because you just are, okay???
>>84529165Like almost all the problems on the right are caused by the retarded modern society we live in
>>84529165makes sense but if you do this you NEED to find friends, you cant live alone
>>84533712Why not? I'm perfectly happy alone. I don't need the approval of normies to be happy.
>>84529165Because you can't tax inceldom. Simple as.
>>84533800what's inside the box?
>women like 6 feet, 6 figs, 6 pack abs>can't do anything about the first, but you should totally kill yourself buffing the other two>then you should face rejection until a foid says yes>then you should have your normie smalltalk script ready>pay for the date, talk to the foid, escalate physically, but not too hard, else you'll end up in jail>dates aren't fun, they're a means to an end, extracting sex from the foid>if the foid doesn't give up sex soon enough, she's a bad foid. Find a better foid.>all foids gave up sex immediately to a mythical Chad demigod that's always taller, richer and hotter than you>be stuck in this cycle of making money, pumping weights, and dating foids, all at your expense, until the magical sex is delivered to youI refuse this stupid dating bullshit.Waifus for life.
>>84529178why cant you just establish strong platonic friendships with other men
>>84533899His brother
>>84533800married couples pay less taxand governments around the world are considering implementing extra taxes on single men
>>84529165You will rot alone for decades. Totally isolated. Just existing, without purpose. Watching the world falling apart around you, and everything getting shitter and shitter. You would already be dead, your body just not realizing it yet.
>>84534186Shouldn't it be a bachelorette tax instead of a bachelor tax? After all, women are the ones who make killing their own babies their #1 political priority. And governments that now want to punish men for women not having enough babies are also pushing women into college and the workforce, which has a direct correlation with plummeting birth rates in every culture in the world. Or if there is a bachelor tax, bachelors should get a 10% deduction (up to 100%) every time a woman refuses to go on a date with him.
>>84534091because they usually get a girlfriend and move on? also if you're an incel you're probably unlikable anyway, like myself
>>84531902>Ever fed, never satisfied. Never fed, ever satisfiedit's a blessing
>>84532144For me I would like to enjoy the intimacy of being around a woman, I would like a girl to be able to hold, I would like to spend time hanging out doing nothing in particular with a person I am in love with.But I don't think it's possible to get *just* that from a woman. I don't care about developing a "relationship", I don't care about taking pictures for instagram, I don't care about impressing her friends, competing with other men, acting like a "real man", buying expensive things for her, sacrificing all my time for her. I don't care about having a wedding, I don't care about having kids.But I feel like if you don't do all of those things you end up with a woman who is miserable and who wants to live with a miserable woman? I can't win.
>>84534236women are never at fault and men always need to "step up"
You can sacrifice everything for a woman but if you forget to take out the trash once it'll be like none of it mattered. And putting up with this for the rest of my days is supposed to be some sort of life goal? Fuck that shit.
>>84529165Inception is bad because most humans need sex. A orgasm is the best physical feeling a man can feel. Given the state of the world's population, the need to reproduce is drastically reduced. I'll stick with men
Very few men understand this. What you're wishing for is something that most men who get sex and wives don't even have. They imagine and ideal anime like romance, not a fat nagging wife and disappointing loser kids like most people actual experience.I would never cope and say being alone is better than the Chad experience or just being a lucky average guy with a good woman, but its better than what most of us would have gotten. Its better than the fat single mom at least.
>>84529165it must be amazing to be chad though, when women are actually attracted to you and not just using you as a provider
>>84536068it is a completely different life, you have no idea
>>84529178Your IQ is below 100 then.
>>84536038>Inception is bad because most humans need sex. A orgasm is the best physical feeling a man can feel.No. For starters, heroin exists. But also love exists, not just sexual.
>>84536038I don't "need" sex. I've gone 23 years without it and I've been just fine. Sex being a physiological need is something that wifesimps made up as a coping mechanism to tell themselves that there's a good reason they're letting some foid extort them.
>>84535972>But it's all worth it for dead fish sex three times a year!
>>84536194tell me more about your fulfilling and not miserable 120IQ life alone
>>84529165I can only speak for myself as a fairly neurotic person. First of all, you feel terrible all the time about missing out on experiences in your youth, you feel terrible about missing out on them currently, and you feel terrible about the fact that the longer you live without such experiences, the more likely it is you will miss out on them in the future as well, as your inexperience becomes more and more disgusting with age. The loneliness gets unbearable. You start feeling hatred towards yourself. You may start harming yourself to cope with the pain. You realize that you will resent every woman you could ever get with, because they all were giving those experiences to other men in their youth, while you were spending decades in misery and depression. Second of all, there's a massive social cost a man has to pay for not being seen as desirable to any woman. People generally treat you like trash and think less of you. You don't even have to tell them. If you live alongside them for long enough and they never see you with a woman, they will start to see you as a subhuman. Women are especially cruel about this, but there's plenty of misandrist men who are as well, especially in liberal, progressive, and feminist spaces, such as your workplace. Thirdly, you're not able to relate to people and to most of the culture. Everybody dates. Everybody dates in their youth. Every single mildly popular song is about sex and romantic relationships. Every single protagonist in books has or reminisces about having in the past some form of romantic or sex life. Every movie and TV show features it. Even pieces of media that are marketed as being for and about outcasts inevitably feature protagonists having sex and relationships, making you feel like an even bigger freak. All this makes you want to isolate yourself from the world. And lastly, absolutely nobody cares. Better get used to it and not make any fuss about it outside of anonymous internet forums.
>>84536306I do what I want when I want and don't have anyone telling me I can't or forcing me to do shit I don't want to. I don't have to spend my money on anyone but myself. I never feel obligated to spend time with people I can't stand or go on expensive vacations. I don't have to hide my niche interests or controversial opinions from anyone. It's the best life I can imagine.
>>84536583so you are basically a manchild, gotcha
>>84536594Maybe I am. But the best part about being alone is that there's nobody at home to judge me for it. I have absolutely zero reason to care what normgroids think about me. Total bliss.
>>84536520>You feel terrible all the time about missing out on experiencesI don't think I've ever "missed out" on anything I wouldn't have hated anyway>The loneliness gets unbearableMaybe for normies who constantly need the approval of other normies. I prefer being alone and am miserable around normies. >Massive social costNot a problem if you avoid interacting with normies>Not able to relate to most of the cultureAnd? I'd rather not relate to the culture.
>>84536208>For starters, heroin exists>just be an addict and overdose, bro!Lmao>>84536220Low libido energy
>>84536038>Inception is badi disagree it's a pretty good movie
>>84529165>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE HAPPY ALONE!!!
>>84536594Notice how there's no womanchild. You have no expectations of women yet you want us to take your expectations seriously
>>84529165so how does chad do it?how does he get to have 200 relationships with basically zero strings attached and zero commitment from his part? is empathy for women a losing game? do you just looksmax and fuck as many retarded teenagers as you can with impunity?
>>84531935You should reply like this>gapes asshole>vacuuming noises can be heard>glorp>*gurglechurn*>shits loudlybye anon
>>84537068It's the ladder
>>84532144>But you can never escape touch starvation and your own basic human needsI've never had those things so I can't miss them. Worst I get is a "what if" thought but I usually remember I'm too schizo for that to ever work. I fundamentally believe love is a lie, and what few people have touched me have been invasive.I would love to believe those needs are important, and maybe I could reach out to people, but unfortunately I am right more often than not whenever I am pessimistic about people. They don't do anything for me, never have, never will.If you have that need, it's because it wasn't broken out of you. I went through a very deliberate process to not feel the detriments of isolation because otherwise I'd just straight up kill myself from how bad things have been for fixing that.The solitude is the only thing that's really healed me, and that changed me.
>>84529165You can definitely learn to be at peace and develop a "I can take it or leave it" attitude towards romance and even friendship.I was there for a decade but would meet people while conversing about my interests (sometimes trying to suggest a better outlook or creative idea) who wanted to know me more and I figured why not give it a chance. I'm still mainly focused on my goals and made it clear that I am so I'm not rushing to hang out IRL, but I've met some surprisingly mature people. They exist of course I had just stopped looking for them.>terrible accidents>critical or terminal illnessSometimes I think about whether I really want to endure those scenarios that MIGHT happen to someone I marry. It's not a pessimistic thing but just me thinking which path I want to go down. There's a part of me that likes the idea of just increasing my wealth, enjoying life without close friends like I did as a child anyway, while having the means to help those I meet and care about through troubles they'll face in the years ahead. But if I get married, I'll be mentally braced for scenarios that will feel more intense because of our own intense feelings. There are 2 nerdy cuties who've invited me over in the past year since we see how well we get along, but I put the excitement aside and am just going to achieve certain goals for now. Gladly, they accept that in a positive way. They might meet other people but I wasn't asking them to wait on me.
Honestly if whores were legal, I don't think it would be seen as that bad.
>>84529285Most men have no leverage. The woman has had multiple relationships before him and can easily replace him so unless he is her slave, he is fucked.
The only bad thing about inceldom is that you'll never experience true love with a compatible woman but, it's not so bad.
>>84537263I've seen people regret things they are not allowed to regretthey get told that having a child is the biggest joy you can ever experience and that you'll understand once you have him/herthey get trapped and are never allowed to express how they really feel: they hate their childrentrue love is kinda the same
>>84537231This is why you actually gain some leverage through personality, income or looks/quality genetics. It's just how the game is played.Even then most women will assume they have leverage over the man and act irrationally until he ghosts them entirely and they essentially fuck up their life leading to incredibly and increasingly dysgenic encounters with scum until their short lives are over or they become church moms. But that is not your problem, that's just nature doing its thing.
>>84536520You are sort of correct, one needs to have at least a few relationships that fail to actually be happy not having them. if you don't you're just coping.>>84536686Eh you can enjoy being alone but still enjoy sex. That's why Chad just calls the girls over.
>>84537263Most men don't experience that anyway. The majority of men's wives have settled for them as a provider.
>>84537299>one needs to have at least a few relationships that fail to actually be happy not having them. if you don't you're just coping.I don't need to step in shit to know I'd prefer not stepping in it.
>>84537285>through personality, income or looks/quality genetics. It's just how the game is played."Personality" is a meme/cope. Looks is really the primary driver as is income. If she doesn't think you can replace her she has no incentive to improve.
>>84537316Personality means charisma and presence, the things women feel attracted to. Looks play a massive part in this but even with a flaw or two you can easily compensate, be it through smarts, talent, know-how, sociability, sneakiness, dark triad-ness, artistry, etc. Basically whether the divine feminine acknowledges you as a good man carrying good genes they want to be desperately impregnated with or not. Just having a good friend you're always close to fucking is proof enough for most foids.
>>84537342it's not just women that are attracted to thatyou are attracted to that too, you worship the figure of gigachad and associate him with good arguments, good opinions and respectable intellectual and critical stances
>>84537362Yes. The mistake is believing none of this can be cultivated.A charismatic chad with a mathematical mind and knowledge of the arts will always mog chad, the dumb 19yo wigger who only dumb whores fuck like they would fuck a dog.Now, you will never be fully chad. But you can train yourself to be smart and bold all at once. To be fit and essentially to shine your light on dumb plebs, and keep doing so until your death comes. That's what a good man looks like. If you fail to canalize your true potential, is it any wonder a woman would rather be with someone else?
>>84537382Yes. It is a matter of wonder that a woman thinks that she can do better, she has seen other women failing for decades, she has been failing to do better since HS, but she thinks that she'll do better.Is it narcissism? A hallucination? The lack of criticism towards women at a social level?
>>84537519the chance she'll get knocked up with chad's genes
>>84537299>one needs to have at least a few relationships that fail to actually be happy not having them.I fully agree with that. Not just for relationships, but experiences in general. There's certain knowledge that I believe can't be communicated through language and can only be learned through experience. The only way to change your values and your emotional predispositions is through experiencing things. It's why I always find these "I did it and I'm telling you it's not great, bro, therefore you shouldn't want it or feel despair over not having it" arguments to fall flat. To use an analogous example, a rich person telling a poor person money isn't everything is probably right, but there's no way for the poor person to internalize that knowledge unless they experience being rich. They'll just view the rich person trying to convince them of this to be an asshole.
>>84529165Men detaching themselves from the females en masse has been the funniest grand social experiment I've bared witness to. It's hilarious how maladapted women are at living by themselves and alone. Like their brain literally starts malfunctioning.
>>84529165You can tell that pic related is at least 10ys old based on how it's all white (with 1-2 Castizo) women.Young white women are much rarer now than they were 20 years.And god forbid you want one who isn't fat and doesn't have tats.
>>84537583That's a good one. Women don't want children, that's the only thing they will be hold accountable for in their whole lifes.Women aren't having children and it will only go worse and worse because they want to be eternal teenagers with the government as their dad
>>84537662women think and say they don't want childrenwomen are slaves to the will. it's their only thing. read schopenhauer
>>84537668Women do not only think and say. They aren't having children, they don't want so to the point of voting to make infanticide legal.Some depresed guy with a funny hair from centuries ago won't change present reality
>>84529178How are you alive then? If it's impossible then you should not be alive to make this post.
>>84537649I'm not a racist, but it really is depressing how in the late 90s/early 2000s, young, non-fat white women were plentiful, and now they're practically an endangered species.
>>84529178>I need constant validation from normies otherwise I'll cease to exist>Also I type in trooncase
>>84536220That just means you've successfully been hormonally poisoned by plastic and goybeans, in a very real biological sense failure to reproduce is almost equivalent to death and so it feels equally bad to never fuck as it does to be terminally ill
>>84538573I still have a libido and all, I simply do not have any desire for sexual intercourse.
>>84529165I realized that I had pedophilic tendencies and women dont willingly marry men like me. I guess I have to be alone. Luckily I have high cholesterol in my twenties, so I wont be alone for too long. I hate myself
>>84539011>But you'll look like a loser if you're still a virgin at [age]!Okay, and?
>>84536520yeah but the thing you're missing is that all the cultural artifacts you are seeing are themselves projections of peoples desires and not reality. everybody wants love and sex, so thats what all our popular culture and art is full of. but the reality is, a lot of people have unsatisfying relationships, have spells where they dont have sex for years, or they get bored of sex entirely. Its only because you put it on this high pedestal because you never experienced it. I used to do it with drugs imagining how amazing they must feel, and they do feel good but not THAT good anymore.Honestly go to a prostitute a few times, yes ik its no substitute for a girl loving you but it would bring the reality of sex to you and help you see it for what it is.
>>84537068Chad doesnt do anything, its about what women want, women are the gatekeepers, they know almost every man they walk past every day would want to fuck them if they could. Women are more independant and educated than ever, so they just choose the most attractive man, its not even chad they like, they prefer pushover attractive men who they can control. eventually they settle down with a weak guy with money and thats that.
>>84529178You don't have to be alone. You can just not get married and have sex or not.
>>84532144This. We don't want to admit we're doing this to ourselves.
I get that fucking hoes ain't for everyone. If I could choose a loving wife I would take that over any number of hoes, but that simply isn't in the cards for so, I'm grown somewhat content with fuckin hoes here and there. Not everyday nor every week or month but, once every other month or so. I see so much cheating going on in my work place and when I tried even casual dates, dismal isn't a strong enough word to describe how bad it is out there.
>>84539696Prostitution is illegal and I highly doubt sticking my dick in a hole is worth all that
>Tell me again why inceldom is such a terrible fate?Yes, I do like solitude and not dealing with foid bullshit.Unfortunately, I still want to fuck them.Even an old one as a fuck-buddy. Yet I am too fucking incel for even that.TFW can't even get the pleasure of seeing a barren womb.
