To older 25+ year old khhv, have you just given up on getting a girlfriend?
I am a 29yo KHV woman, I haven't given up on finding a husband.
>>84542154Kind of. I don't really have ways to meet women irl, and the ones online are mostly really shallow people.
Kind of, I still keep trying but not expecting anything. Started fucking prostitutes when I became a wizard and I don't regret it one bit. Better than dying without never having the experience.
>>84542158>not khhvSLUT!!!
>>84542158Want to come be my wife?
>>84542154i went from khhv to just v while just over 25. it's really really hard in my opinion. 99% of young couples are really 2 predators constantly trying to subjugate the other, and as they get older they settle into various concessions.if you get into a relationship it's going to be constant war.
Age 25 is way too early to give up. I started having sex when I was 28.
I'm not a khhv thanks to Asian massage parlors, but I have given up on finding a gf.
>>84542154im a 37 year old KHHV, and the last time I tried was in my late 20s. I'm an average guy, completely normal weight, 5'11", unremarkable features, 20% bodyfat, decent job.The only women that responded favorably to me were morbidly obese/single mothers/literal prostitutes. This was true across thousands of hours and every imaginable avenue. I did more damage to my self esteem in those hours and experiences with women than the decades of solitude combined.Every time I spoke with one of the corpulent, stinky beasts that considered me "option B", it deepened my understanding of the world on a level that was not beneficial. I wish I could maintain the illusion that an average or even below average woman was interested in someone that looks like her, but they truly all feel like they're "losing" for ending up with a man like that due to the miles of Chad cock that she's received from men that would never be seen in public with her.If you are past a certain age and you consider giving it the "college try" as a normal looking guy, I would recommend submerging those hours and resources into something you actually enjoy doing instead.I can't change the world, Chad is just as much as man as every other one, and men will fuck whatever hole makes itself most available. Even the self-aware, intelligent women I've spoken with acknowledge that the only true sexual attraction they've ever felt for men comes from ones they don't qualify for. Way she goes, boys.
>>84542158What would you like in a husband?
>>84542154Yeah. I am a degenerate and no woman would want me if she knew what I was interested in
>>84542154I haven't give up even though it feels over most of the time. I'm hoping I can connect with an older fembot and defy the odds.
>>84542413>Even the self-aware, intelligent women I've spoken with acknowledge that the only true sexual attraction they've ever felt for men comes from ones they don't qualify for.The real blackpill isn't that they are shooting out of their league, it's that no matter how much the subjective standards of attraction move with the changing years, women will still find the men that summarily show no interest in them the most attractive ones. It's less that the man is some gorgeous figure and more that it's a thing that a woman cannot have, but hormones and female retardation combine to manifest any amount of delusional thinking that the Chad who has never messaged her for anything other than 3AM fucktoy purposes is ACTUALLY a situationship, and he's just waiting to commit to the 142nd shlubby office worker that kept his cum warm that year. All of the woman's standards will adhere to the completely false reality that she is actually in the same league as that man, and she will even posture in public, telling everyone who will hear about her "on again off again" romance, whereas most of these men don't know their last name.
>>84542415Someone kind, loyal, who loves me, and finds me so attractive that he can't keep his hands off of me.
>To older 25+ year old khhv, have you just given up on getting a girlfriend?I'm an escortcel, and yes.I really just want a fuck-buddy. I realised that I just wouldn't want to go through the expensive and miserable charade of dating or a relationship.I like to chill at home. I just wish that I could find a foid to fuck a lot, a few times a week.
>>84542470Deal, come marry me
>>84542470I feel like that is very reasonable and I'd enjoy have a wife like that.
>>84542154Yes. I collect hentai figs and daki covers now and I'm much happier
>>84542154No. I just never really pursued females or sex, always turned them down, because there was something else to do. Something I wanted to do more than to socialize with females. I'm still the same, actually. I prefer to chill at my PC and do fuck all over the weekend to partying/clubbing/bars/whatever else.
>>84542154I am 25 and though I am not even a virgin I have given up. People my age are just fucked in the head, I cannot cultivate feelings of love towards these people. Women are literally all insane or pathetic. The cute ones are married by now already.Not to say men arent all retards too, its just that Im not looking to get male pregnant.
>given upI am mentally ill with zero social skills, at best I could become one of those creepy passport bros or hire a prostitute and get herpes, and it's actually not about sex despite the memes. It is not so much that I have given up that it is impossible to have a normal relationship with a woman who accepts the fact my life is fucked up and I am struggling. Women see this and go "ew", unless I'm a gangster wannabe bum of course, which I'm not doing either. They are not like men that sees a pretty woman, it is love at first sight, he doesn't care that she's a waitress and he wants to fix her and save her.So you have all these normies coming here saying the exact same thing "you're lazy, you're weak, you're not trying hard enough" or "just go out and hit on every woman you see until you get some pussy bro". Nah, actually you don't understand, now fuck off.
>>84542154thankfully i was self aware enough to realize id never get a gf at a young age
>>84542154I only think about it when im 4chan and sometimes when im browsing the internet, before I check r9k on 4chan.All other times of the day it doesnt cross my mind.And when it crosses my mind I just laugh to myself and say:"lmao i have never seen a vagina IN REAL LIFE... and I NEVER WILL"
>>8454215428, got a sort of glow up around 26, find out a ton of people are into me yet it feels "fake"I've got a ton of options right now but I just don't bother anymore
I can't become remotely normal or masculine enough to be likable to women at this point. I can't just suddenly have a different body, personality, and life experience. There was a time to learn and change but it's not now. Now I get to think about where everything went wrong and just wait for several decades.
>>84542154I have avpd, never even tried getting one.
>>84542154no man I haven't given up, I'm going to put effort into myself in hopes to attract someone. I have to work on myself I don't want to be alone. I really want to be loved
>>84542154I've never tried to get one
>>84542154Honestly, I just never tried. My biggest issue is that I'm so shallow to the point where I can't find 90% of women attractive beyond girls who are usually dolled up with some kinda plastic surgery or just the small 1% who are just naturally perfect. I feel like the issue is, I grew up on the internet, completely isolated and became out of touch with reality. You see pictures of perfect women every single day plastered all over your screen. I remember when I started working and this girl I was paired with at work a lot would flirt with me a lot. She was probably a 5/10 Indian girl (I'm also probably around a 4/10 brown dude too) and I could never pull myself to be attracted to her. So yeah, I'm hopeless. Unless the Slavic bimbo princess of my dreams can magically spawn into my lap.
>>84542154I did give up yeah.The things that I really want are all a fantasy, real life can't compete.
Give up sounds like I ever tried. I was one of them fools that thought it would arrive naturally. Turns out if all your hobbies are solitary shit it doesn't happen haha
>>84542154Pretty much, but then again I'm not upset about being alone. Dating is a huge gamble that requires a ton of upfront investment for very uncertain returns, I don't see the reason to endure going through the meatgrinder that is the dating market to *maybe* get a gf and then try sex, which I'm not even sure would be all that good. I doubt it's better than masturbation.
>>84542154YeahI'm more interested about how to aura farm than looking for a gf
>>84542154im 36 and yes. not because it would be impossible but because at this age there are only used up roasties with mental issues, bastard kids and completely different life experiences than me, not to mention they are most likely incapable of pair bonding after 20+ relationships
>>84542154I never really tried
women have never expressed interest in me in real life, probably because i barely talk to them. online they are willing to talk to me, so I am capable of having them as friends, but I also never show my face lmao. it also helps they don't see i am a manlet.there hasn't been a girl that I wanted to ask out online. i've never been close enough to where we would consider meeting up irl (which I would). >t. 24 yo
>>84542158if you wear heels with those frilly ankle socks i'll never keep my hands off you. i'll put you to sleep every night with an orgasm followed by my biased recounting of roman history. deal?
>29 years old KHHV>Overweight but very physically active>Fantastic career, ridiculous amount of savings>I'm decent looking facially>5'10>Arab, muslim country>I am not muslim>Fuck.I have had 9 opportunities for traditional marriage. Cutie 19-22 year old virgin muslim girls. Only issue is pesky little thing called ethics. I'm not willing to lie to them and say i'm muslim. So, after a few weeks of talking I say "hey, i'm culturally muslim but I don't practice". This, of course, results in them telling me to fuck off. Non-muslim arab women are basically the same as western roasties. Chad-only, mentally ill beyond belief, have had a dozen dudes dump loads in them before they're 25. All of these guys then have absolutely 0 qualms with marrying a naive virgin muslim girl and lying to her about their past.
>>8454215427 here. Given up entirely? No. But I acknowledge at this point that there is a high likelihood I will never have a gf. I don't know how to talk to women, I don't have anywhere to meet women. Even if I cleaned myself up and some normie woman showed interest in me, I don't think that I would ever be able to interact in a way that lead to a relationship, nor do I think I could maintain such a relationship. I have no experience in these matters when the average woman my age has a decade plus of sex and relationship experience.My only hope really is some shy otaku autist girl that is a shutin and so is developmentally as stunted as me. But those are rare. We all know for every 10,000 autistic NEET virgin male there is maybe 1 girl like that, at most. Also she has to be at least somewhat cute. I'm not interested in dating some uggo. I'm not even ugly myself and I'm not willing to date someone several points below me. I'd rather just be single forever than be with a girl I don't even find physically attractive. What's the point in that? I probably wouldn't be able to get my dick hard for that.
>>84542154>have you given up on getting a girlfriend?im hopeful that one day i'll acquire my first girlfriend, it's just too hard and tiresome. my best shot was at speed dating events, yet the three times i went there, i received 0, 1 and 1 likes. even old hags don't want me. i cope by moneymaxxing: i have 60k in stocks and about 15k in the bank at an age of 27. i watched a recent video by china observer that rural women demand 25k dowry, 5 golden items and a house. i'll get there by the time im 30, but who guarantees she won't divorce me next month? being an average man is never-ending humiliation ritual.
>>84542154I gave up on it being the way I pictured it. If I do date a girl it will probably be someone my age and their own baggage.
>>84542154I am already dead: I have nothing to offer to any woman (and to be honest, women my age no longer make me feel excited anyway).I'm too old, too hopeless...just want to fucking die already and leave this horrible world behind.Love and hope are for the young and the healthy, and I'm neither.
>>84542154im a 35 kv and i dont even know what id do with a gf if i even got one. im not really desperate for sex and i am absolutely not desperate enough to deal with her bullshit. whatever thoughts i have on love and blah blah are just delusional fantasies that dont exist irl or they dont and have never existed for me so theres no point dwelling on them. whatever desire i ever had for companionship has been mostly curb stomped out of me and im just numb at this point. women mostly annoy me now and their behavior grosses me out, and at best id just want sex with them but id probably get bored of that fast anyway. id just get a prostitute if i was that desperate. once in a while ill have some oh no im so lonely and sad moment but i can deal with those and i have been for my entire life
>>84542154The older you get the more that's required of you and the less tolerance there is for a lack of experience. Even if those of us left behind try to catch up, were forever stuck in a deficit with a interest that keeps us stuck in the pit. It's a hole you can never really climb out of once you fall in.
>>84542158I am a 26 yr old khhv... i wish i had a wife
hi girl here sorryif a girl likes you being KHHV wont bother her even if you are old please dont feel bad
>>84542154I'm 31 now and I gave up at like 23yo. lul. I've been alone so long now that anything else would be too uncomfortable. My life isn't so bad. I only have to work part time and I do whatever I feel like doing in the moment.
>>84546780i am never telling a woman irl that i am a virgin, im lying about it and i dont give a shit. im never meeting a woman who likes me anyway
>>84542158You fucking strumpet! Handholding! How the modern woman has fallen.
>>84546822i liked someone who is KHHV and it wasnt an issue. thing didnt work out between us but i wish he doesnt dwell on it the way anons on this thread are.
>>84546852thats nice i guess? most women are going to be freaked out if they knew i was a virgin at this age and im not taking the risk. worst case scenario is she thinks im terrible at sex. oh well now im not a virgin
Pretty much. I don't see how it would realistically happen.Even if I somehow get my life together, get a job, learn to endure all of the part of society that stress me out, I still have to contend with the fact that I have a personality mismatch with almost all women, and I don't know to what degree I even want intimacy. I kind of don't want people in my personal space.
>>84546868whats your agemy guy was in his early 40s if its any consolation
I'm not going to get what I want at this point so what's the point? I gave up. I don't care anymore.
>>84546780The whole issue is getting a girl to like me
>>84547062for me it's also getting to where other human beings are, and then not completely failing to communicate with them. I'm bad at this. It's all well and good saying "go to an event". I can't endure those environments.I want my own space. I want to be in absolute control of my surroundings.
>>84542154I was 25+ year old khhv. I moved to somewhere with tons of asian girls, started getting laid super fast. Something is just wrong with white / brown / black chicks.
>>84542822>It is not so much that I have given up that it is impossible to have a normal relationship with a woman who accepts the fact my life is fucked up and I am struggling.Checked and same. I always have some sort of obstacle in my way whenever i try to get things together. Its like no matter how hard i work or at least try to make things better, shit usually goes down. Woman obviously dont want to be with a man thats constantly facing problems because that gives them the ick. I dont give a fuck anymore, im 33 and im getting too old for this shit.
>>84542413>Even the self-aware, intelligent women I've spoken with acknowledge that the only true sexual attraction they've ever felt for men comes from ones they don't qualify for. Way she goes, boys.Women all understand and know this but strongly dislike that so many men are hip to the game now. Women can't control who they feel sexual attraction for.
>>84542789>The cute ones are married by now already.That's the real blackpill. If you don't find your wife by the time you graduate college, you won't find her until you're in your 30s.
>>84542154Yeah I mean all this time without a single female taking interest in me obviously means I'm undesirable so I'm not gonna force it.
>>84544731They would tell you to date younger but realistically how young can you go? Even if you go down to a 25 or 26 year old, this will still likely be true.
>>84545506Well that sounds like a you problem anon. Also most of those "virgin" girls were likely doing oral and anal anyway so it's not like they're that pure.
>>84547967nta but im in my mid 30s and women under the age of 30 are absolutely repulsive to me, they all grew up on social media and they are completely brain damaged. theyre obviously attractive but everything other than their looks is absolutely rotten and putrid
>>84547987Hate to break it to you but Myspace has been around since the early 2000s. Most women 40 and under have used social media. Like unless you're trying to date a 45+ year old single mom it's pretty pointless, and even then she probably has Facebook or some shit.
>>84547998>tfw no 40 year fembot with a plump cellulite booty
>>84547998they didnt have iphones constantly connected to the internet, myspace and facebook werent that bad before they turned into algorithmic invasive slop constantly connected to the internet with a phone. phones share probably even more of the blame
idk how dudes even meet girls anymore. surely it cannot be this bleak? most men i know IRL have had more than 1 gf under their beltbut ig we're all asocial schizos>>84542154i got my robot bf at 24 but am still a KHV..... we shall escape one day
No it's incredibly easy to find a girlfriend but it's hard finding one whose company I enjoy permanently. Atm just settling for occasionally pumping and dumping 18-25 year olds
>>84548018That was back in 08. So basically anyone that is 39 or younger had an iphone back during their sexual prime. In any case it's just not realistic to find unless you're going for old old women.
>>84548049the iphone was expensive and really only rich people used them most others used a blackberry. mobile internet was also pretty shit back then. I literally lived back then anon i think i know what was going on. social media wasnt some all consuming thing until like 2012ish i guess? once iphones took over seems kind of like the turning point when everything got really really bad.
>>84542154Been a wizard for five years now and yes, I stopped caring. I'm still disappointed that the life I longed for so long was nothing more than a pipe dream, and I'm still jaded as fuck in humanity, but my depression is gone for the most part when I realized this was outside of my control all along, now that I see there are so many others in the same boat now. That what happened is merely a symptom of something larger. Women aren't worth putting any effort into and this world has lost all meaning and value to me. All I do is be a comfymaxx'd NEET all day while everyone else suffers and dreads over trivial shit. It's of no consequence to me as this was never my world to begin with.
From what I've heard from people who are successful with women you basically have to baby them like they're children without them knowing you're doing that or else they'll get mad at you and leave or cheat on you. That hardly sounds worth the effort
>>84542154I lost it at 27, became a normie and now fuck my with +3 times a week.
its pretty comfy to be alone. It doesn't bother me that much
>>84542154Not kissless but I am 26 and yeah I've never been with anyone and have given up trying to get with someone. It's entirely my own fault, though. I don't seek relationships because I don't think they would make me happy. I'd always be lying to the other person because the real me is someone most people would despise.
>>84542167I went the same way. After 30 years I at least wanted to know what it feels like. And I felt like I needed the experience because if I DID manage to get a girl as a kissless virgin she would ditch me instantly for not knowing what to do. Still no luck dating, because they snipe my autism, but at least I get some regular sex and intimacy from my prostitutes. I doubt it will ever get better than that. And at this point I would rather support a good looking whore than some spiteful hag.
>>84542154I haven't given up emotionally yet, but I'm not actively looking for a girlfriend. I look at myself through the prism of knowledge about what women want and I don't see a man who any woman would want. I'm working towards fitting at least the "provider" demand, but it will still be at least a few years before I get there. It's also possible I won't. And that's not even beginning to compensate for the fatal flaw of sexual and romantic inexperience. It's honestly what makes me feel the most hopeless about my prospects, because if I ever get to the stage of being "normal", it's what will inevitably destroy my chances. This makes me aware of the fact that if I want to be seen as desirable by any woman, I can't just become normal. I have to become exceptional. That's a very high bar to clear. One that might not be very realistic, especially with the khhv mental toll.
I was a regular V but here are my 2 cents.I lost my virginity 31 on a Tinder hookup with a 22 yo girl and lied she was my third. We're in a relationship now and I think I will keep this secret to the grave.The sex was hella awkward and I was so nervous I couldn't get it up. She found it weird saying "I never experienced this before".Wasted a good chunk of my 20s on a BPDemon who was dead afraid of sex and only strung me around for emotional validation.Welp.
>>8454215426 year old KHV here. I still believe there's someone for everyone out there, just looking for mines
