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Be honest with me what's the appeal?
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>>84549735
Goths are satanic male brained homosexuals in white female bodies larping as vampires.
No further questions.
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>>84549735
I'm not into this whole goth/emo shtick. Makes me suspect the girl might be really cringe, if it's not just that she likes the surface-level aesthetic.
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>>84549735
>whats the appeal
Black lipstick stains on your cock
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a man being into this genre of woman is gayer than sucking dick and swallowing
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>>84549735
maybe that they are hot young women? and not a pic rel? are you retarded?
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>>84549735
I prefer slutty degenerates who just happen to be goth, not e girls pretending to be a slutty goth degenerate
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>>84549735
>what's the appeal?
probably the color contrast of black and white, the "emo" look and how they act and most important of them all : >>84549983
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>Attractive, perky, young women being attractive and acting sexual.

It's really not that complicated. They are also acting really upfront and non standart about the sexuality. That's really it. The aeshetic is like sprinkles on icecream, it's nice, but not really why you're there.
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>>84550093
More that i think about it. I think the biggest part of the apeal is the open, unveiled flirting from an attractive woman toward the presumed male viewer that you can self insert as. An attractive woman flirting with you first because she finds you attractive is a sexual fantasy that 99.9% of men will never get to experience. While that's just daily life for most women so i guess i can understand the confusion.
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>>84550004
This is also why all goth girls are notoriously BLACKED
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>>84549973
i noticed that a lot of guys into goth girls end up trooning out
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it shows that they're damaged and damaged women are easy
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>>84550118
unironically yeah probably, the contrast hits hard inside the head of an insecure/sub white guy. this is probably one of them main reasons why its famous in the west and in the east the guys trying to self insert as the black guy
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>>84549735
Not sure, I'm guessing dudes who can't get just a regular girlfriend end up being attracted to girls that they think are mentally ill sluts because they seem easier to get with and that they're gonna do all the things they've seen in the porn they copiously consume instead of having a girlfriend.
>>84550141
Yeah because they're porn addicts.
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>>84549735
the girl on the left is very pretty to me but her movement feels like very unnatural mocap
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>>84549735
Not fat, pale skin, black hair, and good with facial expressions.
Fuck I would love to have a goth poser gf
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>>84549735
These girls are ugly. We need to ban makeup ASAP. Women would naturally stay at home if they actually had to live with their real face
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>>84549735
These girls are hot as fuck and I love that they are making these skits. I'm low key jealous of the guy that gets to film this pretending to not appreciate the aggressive advances of a hot goth.
On top of that, most goth aren't this hot. There's a reason why she's so popular on the internet
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>>84550525
what makes you think she's a poser? You just telling yourself that as a knock against a women that out of your league?
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>>84550004
>probably the color contrast of black and white
Yeah this is actually studied and found to make women look more feminine

>>84550000
I've been in deep with drug addicted yuppie coke heads, crust punk squatters, beat down hardcore guys, meth smoking ravers. I can say from the bottom of my heart that Goths are suburban, narcissistic posers. They really are dorks.
For some reason autistic guys and normie guys think they are dangerous and cool and edgy. They aren't. They're safe rebellious and always narcissistic, self involved, and corny. Woe is me. Emo dorks are legitimately more interesting than goth. Goth is a costume for people without depth who want to be cool.
People with real troubles, people with integrity, people who understand art, prior who are actually scary . None of them are "goth"
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>>84550591
not that guy but THIS IS GOTH(picrel), what you see here is poser goth.

that you see in the OP post is just a cheap imitation to get men's penis hard because neither these posers can put as much effort as the real goth and the avg guy will be too scared by the real goth women
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>>84550606
This anon gets it! Goths have always been in the most insufferable pricks to deal with. The south park version of them is not far off
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>>84550591
>what makes you think she's a poser
Goth is exclusively for posers. Maybe if you listen to Rudimentary Peni and read Bataille you can be cool but most goths don't even read. It's just suburban kids who got what they wanted from mommy by pouting and made it their identity.
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>>84550612
>doesn't realize both of these are posers
Real goths rarely even dress like this because it's too much effort for something that's only really worth it for performing in a band or photoshoots from time-to-time
Goth has been ruined years ago and even a lot of real goths suck anyway

EBM is also cooler

>>84550628
This, fuck goths overall
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>>84550612
To scared? Goth's always come off as try hard and they are always wimpy. I'm no goth myself, but your pic and OP's vid have women that look very similar. Is it possible that goth isn't static, that it evolves like everything else. Both your pic and OP's vid show goth girls
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>>84549735
The one on the right is a fucking hot living fleshlight.
Left not so much.

The appeal is mental illness to the point of sexual deviance, sexualizing themselves just to please your cock and drain your balls.

I don't know what's not to get.
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>>84549735
They're going to be absolute whales in a few years
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>>84549735
It feels like it's probably the same as jester demons
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>>84550647
girl on the left is fucking hot, it's just that she doesn't look as good in that particular vid
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>>84550635
ah right i forgot the music part but that dosent denies the fact it has got diluted. its like a difficult game becoming easier for the sake of children. it still shit but it was less shit earlier
>>84550644
>Goth's always come off as try hard and they are always wimpy. I'm no goth myself, but your pic and OP's vid have women that look very similar.
they have a similar look but the effort, style and focus is quite obvious. the "old goths" werent trying too hard to be sexual
>that it evolves like everything else
yeah and it has become more diluted

well whatever true "goths" dont exists anymore
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Harsh exterior imagined soft interior. Tsundere
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>>84549735
A memory that doesn't exist anymore that has been fetishized and existed in cartoons.
>Goths are a nerd's tom boy.
Thing about it. Like a tom boy, a goth chick is supposed to be into all the same male centered interests like horror movies, video games, metal/Industrial/goth music, tech, sexually into girls, the occult, not ashamed of sex, concert scenes, etc. But they have girly style and try to look pretty.
>What changed
It's all an act now.
Girls dress like this for pics on social media. A business professional will end up being a horror movie and metal fan, a instagram goth girl will only listen to niggerbop like drake, hate any moves that are scary, not know how to use a laptop, and use sexuality to get only fan subs.
>What changed?
Concept of a poser went away. Subcultures don't exist how they use to.
The gate keeping sucked. You had people getting angry calling people posers for liking NIN but not listening to skinny puppy... but the gate keeping also kept people from using style as a costume for attention.
>what did I mean about the cartoon thing.
It's posted 100 times here but hot goth chicks were in cartoons. Dudes caught feels and grew a taste.
What is funny is most of those girls act like a fun enjoyable and likeable version of the girl boss attitude you see pushed now.
Wanna know what the difference is? The Tough Goth bitch had a soft side and put up a front to protect a vulnerable inside that she doesn't show to just anyone.
The girl boss has no inside or soul. Just narcissism

I get the appeal, it's cool seeing it be popular, but wake me up when bitches start listening to music that isn't dog shit and seeking attention online 24/7
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>>84550718
Damn, you summerized a lot of the appeal.
Yeah... the fashion and attitude was an armor of sorts.
And when you got under the armor a very real, genuine person was in there. Sure the look is an aspect of them, but not the only thing.

Dunno if they would be tsundere though. A lot of Goth girls in the past were open and unashamed when they liked someone.
Also when they dated you and loved you they were pretty gushy romantic types and took breakups insanely hard.

There were big feels under that exterior.
And we live in a day and age where everyone is fake and gay.
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>>84550731
>but wake me up when bitches start listening to music that isn't dog shit and seeking attention online 24/7
Impossible but a man can dream
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High contrast
Pale white skin and dark black features is attractive to the eye and I also think the clothes they wear looks hot.
It's funny to me when they get covered in shitty tattoos (darkening their skin) because it completely misses the point from an aesthetic perspective.
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>>84549735
None.
Those are posers, also known as mall goths. They are like regular sluts but even biggen whores and crave for more attention. Most likely mentally ill too.
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>>84550665
She has ugly, short nails, that automatically pulls her down a lot.
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>>84550776
>Impossible but a man can dream
Oh trust me I know.
Post COVID every woman in lock step cared more about the approval of online strangers than IRL.
And it's not like pre COVID women didn't get attention online, but it wasn't their everything, nor did they chase every trend.
>How I categorize what Goths were like back then
A Goth girl back in the day used the internet to share their art, thoughts, stuff they did, and hobbies with everyone online.
The focus wasn't about them taking selfies but if they posted pics of themselves it was to show an outfit they viewed as an art AND THEY WERE THE CANVAS.
oh and those outfits? A lot of times they learned how to make them themselves because their specific clothes weren't easy to find and online shopping didn't get decent until the 2010s.
Even if they weren't seemstresses they would do things like alter a shirt to be form fitted and customized for them or take non fashion items and make them stylish. If you wanted to see goth girls nerd out take two of them that made their outfits to meet each other and watch them gush and share how they made stuff.
>Kinda funny that when Goths were the most real they put so much work in the appearance that bordered on cosplay levels of dedication
>But cosplay whores now don't even bother making their own outfits, they just buy shit, play dress up, and don't even watch anime they just want attention and to shill a Patreon
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counter culture
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The only "decent" reason I could come up with is that they just want a white woman but they can't just say that so they use the "goth" aesthetic.
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>>84550952
you kinda sound like this fat chick on youtube. Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJWB9It7tyM
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>>84551002
lol I have mutual friends with this chick irl and she's as retarded as you think she is
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>>84550958
Sublime taste, anon. Ganguro/Yamanba type gyarus are a bit too much for my taste, but I'd love to have a slightly more subdued slutty gyaru gf.
Or rather I'd love to be ABLE to afford a gyaru gf, as they probably are insanely high-maintenance.
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>>84550158
a regular girlfriend isn't any better than watching porn. regular girls are fucking BORING.
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>>84551022
fucking LOL!!!! the world is a small place, even with 7 billion people
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>>84550881
best of both worlds desu
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>>84550958
>>84551027
I think AIKA rewired my brain into liking gyarus...
>>84551068
More like over eight now.
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>>84549757
You just made them sound even better
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>>84550141
Who, name me one.
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>>84550570
>the guy that gets to film this
How do you know another goth girl isn't filming
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>>84549735
>Be honest with me what's the appeal?
ummm... sexy girl? what the fuck kinda thread is this
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>>84549735
Is there anything behind this nu-goth aesthetic except desire to monetize and milk the male monkey brain? As in is there at least some culture behind it like the old goth of the 80s had?
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>>84550606
>the color contrast of black and white
>this is actually studied and found to make women look more feminine
Hmm... interesting...
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>>84551153
you can here the dude, this one of many vids. It's always a guy rejecting her advances. Which is both a cope and hilarious
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>>84551371
>you can here the dude
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>>84551198
very the truth saar
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>>84551002
Watch video
>Man hating feminist in Goth cosplay
HOLY SHIT THIS EXACTLY THE FAKE GOTH SHIT FOR ATTENTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlv7Lcd1P2c
She is a better example of what I mean and she may be a bit preachy but is spot on with her introspection and observations. Also she's in her 50s.
>Another man hating goth
they existed but that wasn't the point. Like sure some feminists were goths but not all goths were feminists.
>Fat goth bitch
this is a lot of the dirty secret of goths. A lot of goths were just girls who weren't pretty dressed like normies and they found better acceptance and looked better dressed up as Goths. The OMG super hawt goth chick was actually kinda rare amongst the goth kids.

Goths are fetishized to an unrealistic level now. Not that it didn't exist before, but now its insane.
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>>84551415
I miss when you faggots were original and funny with racism. Now you are lazy and gay.
Also Latinas are the majority of goths in the southwest.
So it's not about MUH PURE WHITE RACE, although pale skin is seen as pretty.
But without your gay faggot /pol/ shit.
>>84551116
This is peak Gayaru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=449zNCilAys
real gayarus are actually really beautiful and only are rebelling against meek quiet asian standards and unashamed of having fun.
shit like this is a clown show cosplay >>84550958
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>>84551915
>Goths are fetishized to an unrealistic level now. Not that it didn't exist before, but now its insane.
Onlyfans and the like is to blame for this.
Women can enjoy their sexual liberation and empowerement bullshit that rots their hobbies and subcultures from the inside out. You push all that trash to the exreme degree and get a bunch of "sexually liberated" female posers monetizing their le nu-goth aesthetic for their simps (who are also subhuman trash btw).
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>>84549735
I am dumb, what is the other one doing in the background? I don't have headphones with me rn
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>>84551981
>I don't have headphones with me rn
That wouldn't make a difference, dummy. She's doing the coffee with breast milk meme.
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>>84551981
Squeezing her boob juice into the coffee.
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>>84549735
Classic goth was more conservative. But now zoomer egirls that have OF ruined the aesthetic but also men are gooners that want to desecrate everything.
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>>84549735
Personally I like contrast. I always liked dark hair, be it black, brown or dyed dark red, on pale skin, moles are also my weakness. Also this kind of look screams "I like my sex like my music: hard", which implies they'd be up for some kinky shit and maybe more forthcoming when it comes to it.

>>84550803
this, tattoos are fucking trashy
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>>84549735
You have to be a switch or have submissive tendencies to get it. That webm made my dick twitch imagining her feeding me her breast milk. Very lewd and mommy dommy like. I would ask for extra spit on my coffee too.
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>>84549983
most goths IRL are fatchicks like >>84551002

>>84550606
nobody thinks goths are scary bro
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Goth women will write a paper every day about respect and stuff relating consent and whatever woke bullshit for a month straight while screaming at their boyfirend and then hit their ovulation and get gangbanged by homeless men in a back alley on a BPD impulse
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>>84549735
visual indicators of mental illness can be attractive, because it suggests that she is likely to make irrational and stupid decisions. Decisions like pairing up with a 4/10 guy like (You). .
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>>84551198

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuAne6y9mY
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>>84552912
It's also that being an outliner has always traditionally made women rapeable without consequences. Hell, goths were even attacked openly in the 80's and 90's with no consequences.



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