>>84555643
you are fucking assholes tho
t. was a homeschooled christian kid

>>84555643
No, atheist have morals for social, legal and logical reasons, whereas religious people have morals for cultural and spiritual reasons. If you bring down the legal system and seclude an atheist, he will stop having logical reasons to follow moral rules. If you do the same with a christcuck, he will be more likely to stand by his morals because he still has the afterlife to lose.

>>84555643
This is actually true. Atheists are in fact extreme moralists on average. You can test it so easily. Just try to lure an atheist into lecturing you on morality. They will bite the bait like their life depends on it. In fact this is largely what normie social media amounts to. Atheist moralfags desperately trying to one up each other.
The mistake is thinking that more moral = better.

>>84555643
I don't know why this is always some athiest checkmate. Okay so maybe some "Christians" are only good because they don't want to go to hell. Is that supposed to be a bad thing? They're still at least being outwardly pleasant to a degree. Trying to mask their awful behavior.

Under atheism morality is subjective and since there's no real punishment for simply having bad morals, you can't make a rude asshole try to conform to whatever your subjective "morality" is since they're entitled to their own. I could say it's moral to kill all athiests and if athiesm is true that's a fine viewpoint to hold and all you can do is disagree.

>>84555643
but jesus didn't say to fear hell, he said to love your neighbor as you love yourself. in fact, jesus instructed his followers to not fear hell and to do good without any expectation of a reward. he made it crystal clear that very few people will go to heaven and most christians will go to hell regardless of the good they do: not of works lest any man should boast. the whole fear of hell nonsense is just an atheist strawman.

>>84555643
this is bullshit because people never do any good out of the kindness of their hearts. nobody is capable of that. they do good to others because it's to elevate their own status.

>>84555643
Christcucks dont even act like Hell is real

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it just shows how retardedly narcissistic they are

christians believe their morality is derived from god's love

atheists believe their morality was made up all by themselves

>>84555643
She's right.
Every time christians claim atheists can't have morals because they don't believe in god, they're revealing they only have morals because of imagined threats of burning in a magical lava lake after dying. Whereas atheists have an internalized set of morals based on empathy and ubderstanding.

>>84555643
Nah, I'm an atheist and I flat out don't have morals. The only thing inhibiting me from doing evil things like running a publicly traded company is my own laziness.

>>84555643
I feel like the proportion of truly moral atheists is probably similar to the proportion of truly moral christians. Same with low moral atheists and christians who are only moral due to the jew commandments. I honestly do not believe religiosity plays much of a part in morality. You are either a good person or a bad person.

t. moral athiest

>>84555643
Meanwhile, Christians will do the most heious shit because they believe God will forgive them.

>>84555643
>>84555685
>>84555706
morals do not matter and all your faggots should stop using this word. Atheists have superior morals, because they don't give a shit about morals, they're above this bullshit, next level.

every staunch atheist I've ever known just replaces worship of a higher force with worship of money and material

>do whatever you want
>be gay rape children put babies in a microwave
>repent and accept Christ
>welcome to heaven my dude
What's even the point of hell

>>84556643
there's also purgatory

>>84556627
>t. never met a single atheist

>>84556627
>people who don't believe in magic ghosts don't waste time thinking about them but instead focus on reality

Yes, yes they do.

Worship is a crazy thing you do out of fear. We don't worship anything just because you assume we have to. That's your shit.

>>84555643
>Atheist do good to others

>>84555643
atheists do not, in fact, do good to others. they aid trap developing nations

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>atheist do goACKKKKKKKKKK

>>84555685
>do the same with a christcuck, he will be more likely to stand by his morals
Them why didn't Christcucks stood against women's rights?

>>84555685
Morals are as simple as I wouldn't this done to anyone I care about or to myself, seeing others in pain causes me pain, so therefore I'll refrain from harming others.
But this is a big ask when most people seemingly lack genuine empathy and are only capable of performative sympathy.

>>84555643
Meanwhile atheist morals:
>it's ok to kill millions of babies every year because we can just say they don't count as babies

>>84555643
I don't have anything against christianity, do whatever makes you happy and fullfilled type shit yknow?
But I remember following the 10 commandments better than the kids from my elementary class who bullied me for not being christian (without knowing what the 10 commandments were)

>>84558123
Religious morals
>we need to cut toddlers penises because Yahweh demands foreskins

>>84555685
>If you do the same with a christcuck, he will be more likely to stand by his morals
To say nothing of the christians who use their faith as a get-out-of-jail-free card, that's kind of the point.
If the atheist acts for the greater good despite not having a spiritual "reason", that reflects well on him.

>>84555685
That is not entirely true. Most people have no desire to cause others to suffer. So its not like atheists would turn into beasts just because the law disappeared. I do not consider myself to be a good person, but there are still lines.

>>84558187
Christians don't circumcize and they're the ones opposing abortion.

>>84555643
It's hilarious and sad seeing Athiests reduce all of Christianity to some shitty interactions they may or may not have had with a handful of Christians in their life, but if a Christian generalizes all atheists as heartless evildoers then they get angry cause "not me! I'm a heckin good person."

Imo you're not that "good" if you generalize an entire group just to degrade and dehumanize them for their beliefs.

why are so many of you on this board religious? how? god is clearly a piece of shit if he exists. you should all feel jilted by your creator.

>>84555643
>picrel
Religious people actually help others though

I havent met a godless person who has done anything for anyone but themselves and their immediate family

>>84558467
I prayed to God asking if He meant "it is not good for the man to be alone" (Gen. 2:18) and 1 week later, I met my wife. Why should I feel jilted?

>>84558500
there's a reason you use the word "religious" and not necessarily christian. of course devoted, cloistered, and pleasant people do good for the world. you have multitudes more in-name-only christians who are nothing but pernicious in how they conduct themselves, and just as you'd have to eventually admit there are some good atheists, you're admitting here that there are only some good christians.

>>84558529
this is exactly what i'm talking about. this is supposed to be r9k and you're telling us about a happy marriage.

>>84558562
"r9k" means "ROBOT 9000," which is a generically-named protocol for increasing signal in a noisy channel. What is this supposed to be?

>>84558593
jewish-sponsored and -propagated hate/loneliness forum for their amusement

>>84558633
Incorrect answer + You're a newfag.

>>84558641
it is what it is. sorry it changed as well. your point is still disingenuous and you know that i'm right to question the majority here's faith.

>>84558187
the majority of active opposition to circumcision is from christian non-profits, thoughbeit. the new testament makes a case for the "circumcision of the heart" as opposed to physical mutilation.
>>84558456
this. atheism trends toward hypocrisy where the atheists stop criticizing the religion and start generalizing the religious. i usually ignore them because there's only so many hours in a day and i don't want to spend them listening to a broken record but i have a week off work and nothing to do right now.

>>84558648
>your point is still disingenuous
I'm not making a point. I'm asking questions and refusing answers that we both know are incorrect. Why should I feel jilted? What is this board supposed to be?
>i'm right to question the majority
You might like Kierkegaard then, but you're not exactly on untrodden ground.

>>84555643
Hell is nothing more than the desire for retribution towards the wealthy and powerful. Over time, it became a means of crown control. Even still, every one had self-serving morals. If not for god, it's for: 1) social standing; 2) fear of retaliation; 3) damaged empathic feelings: 4) calming of moral scruples. People like this women are insufferable and are blinded by their self-righteousness

>>84558551
>you're admitting here that there are only some good christians.

Nta but really I'd say one is not a real Christian if they don't acknowledge this like myself. Because yeah, it's pretty obvious a large portion of so called "Christians" do not display fruits of the spirit, like peace, love, and joy. They say lord lord but their hearts absolutely do not belong to Christ. Infact those kinds of people aren't even Christians in the first place as they aren't following Christ.

It is called the narrow path for a reason. Few genuinely are what the bible itself would define as a Christian. Margaret from Kentucky who uses it as an excuse to spread hatred and belittle others is arguably worse than a non-believer.

>>84558663
you, sir, should not feel personally jilted, for you were absolutely and 100% the very, very person my post was addressing, and you provided wondrous, ample support for the grand majority. what an honorable and good man you are.

>>84558682
Excuse me, but if you're going to be sarcastic, it would be even more grating if you used the British spelling of honourable.

>>84558666
*crowd
*everyone has
*feelings;
*woman
Damn, the typos are out of control.

>>84558666
gotta ask about them digits though

>>84558693
that's fair. anyway it's an IT/computer science forum as clearly labeled by the r9k moniker, so i feel a little silly.

>>84558551
>just as you'd have to eventually admit there are some good atheists, you're admitting here that there are only some good christians
jesus admits that in the bible bro

>>84558713
Secret wizard board. O_O
I'm currently implementing CSDP, RMAP, and IoC in Backus AST and FORML 2 so that AIs can write apps with the only hallucination surface being the specifications.

>>84555685
So like if the government says "for this day you will be allowed to kill and not go to jail" would you start killing like a goddamn psycho?

Life is about society and being in a society implicates accepting the rules of it (not killing not stealing, not doing bad things in general).
Even if for one day you would be allowed to do something normally illegal, you have a heart and a mind that would stop you from doing that.
If you think that only christians have morality you are essentially saying that every atheist is a frustrated person who doesn't have a brain and does not live in society.

>>84555643
God literally tells you to do this in the bible dumb ass.

>>84558551
I specified "religious" instead of "christian" because people often claim to be christian without being devout believers. I have had no exposure to other religions since they are fringe in my country.

Case in point, devout, churchgoing people who genuinely believe in God are always selfless, giving people. I honestly can't think of a single time I've seen a non-devout person do anything for charity or for another interest group than their own outside of workplace charity events.

>>84558771
No he doesn't

His morals amount to "try to guess what this abusive cosmic jew wants" lmao

I am an Atheist who loves our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and I have read the Bible six times over

AMA

I am more knowledgeable about the Bible than the Bible thumping fags themselves

>>84555658
>t. was a homeschooled christian kid
I'm not nice. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAAHAHHA nigga your parents fucking HATE YOU. That's why they homeschooled you -- fuck, that's why you're here. Your parents and your god did fuckall about your problems, and now you're with us. I love your god, he's so useless, lol

if you need a book written 1000+ years ago to tell you how to live and be a good person, you probably aren't a good person

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>>84558970
It is strange that the people who talk this way try to convince me that they are a good person because they care about issues like BLM or climate change

>>84558970
Most people need rules and guides lol.

>>84559185
no where in my post did I imply any of that dishonest faggot
>>84559197
because the people are retarded and cannot think for themselves

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>>84559224
Okay, so did you get vaccinated? Did you support BLM? Did you support Ukraine?

>>84559233
the topic of the thread is religion, not your special interests

>>84559241
Climate Change, BLM, Ukraine, and Palestine are contemporary religions

>>84559254
Interesting. What else counts as a contemporary religion?

>>84559270
It's the liberals' religion. They have their original sin in the form of being born a white male; they have their heretics in the form of 'xenophobes'; they have their faith-based mythologies about equality; and they have their Armageddon in the form of Climate Change. There is no arguing with an intolerant religion--the adherents will only get angrier and angrier the more their inconsistencies are questioned. You're just supposed to have faith in our new clergy and the fabled 97%, even though we don't know who they are.

I mean, since when has a scientist ever been wrong? Just learn to love the fact that your government will take your money and give it to poor countries in the name of cap and trade. If you are ever feeling guilty for the sin of taking an international flight you can buy an indulgence, carbon credits

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A man becoming a woman when he puts on a dress is magical thinking. I think atheists are more likely to believe in 'trans women' compared to a bible thumper

>>84559339
come on, you didn't answer the question. I just want to know all the religions out there.

>>84559375
I am explaining. There are aspects we can recognize from a religion which are found in these ideologies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQj5bkUeAc
https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/the-elect-neoracists-posing-as-antiracists-e2f
John McWhorter wrote a good book on it.

These ideologies have dogmas, original sins, heresies, elect/saved classes, rituals of penance, apocalyptic eschatology, and inquisitorial enforcement.
I can provide specifics as to how these various ideologies have the elements of religion, like climate change having their own vision of the apocalypse, the end of the world.

>>84558837
Nicest atheist itt