I don't get Welcome to the NHK. Satou isn't even a real socially cripped hikki, he literally has no actual social anxiety aside from screaming like a retard every so often. He leaves his house practically every episode, and still the anime forcefully tries to remind you that he's still a hikki. Every other piece of dialogue is just>"YOU'RE A HIKIKOMORI, SATOU! YOU DON'T GO OUTSIDE!" as he's literally outside. It's no wonder retarded zoomers on TikTok love to larp this shit.
>>84577869He's a schizo not a social anxiety type. He's not afraid of people, he's afraid of the world.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tzI1iysdkA>Satou isn't even a real socially cripped hikkihe's also addicted to heroin in the novel that just got censored out
>>84577903he still does just fine in the world most of the time. the only time he shows any symptoms is when its convenient for the plot. otherwise hes totally normal and seems to have no reason to be a hikki at all
>>84577869this anime is so painfully retarded i have no idea how i watched this
>>84577915>the only time he shows any symptoms is when its convenient for the plot.these types of moments for him are scarce and he functions just fine outside of his apartment most of the time despite how much the anime wants you to believe he doesnt
>>84577903How do you stop being afraid?
Japan has a much more demanding culture. In America a juvenile delinquent is someone who is on track to be a criminal or a low life. In Japan a delinquent is someone who doesn't take school seriously and is disrespectful or apathetic when dealing with authority figures. By Japanese standards staying in your house all day is weird and would get you called names like hikki even if the cause isn't the same as normal
>>84577915>he's also addicted to heroin in the novel that just got censored outI thought it was some hallucinogenic research chemical he bought online because it "wasn't illegal teehee." Hence the hallucinations. He does it with Yamazaki and they freak out and start fighting each other at one point in the book.
He has an OCD type paranoia where he thinks everyone is laughing and mocking him. The story was written by a guy that alternated between reclusive NEETism and being outside over the years.
>>84578008Didn't the author go back to NEETing?
>>84577919You can't make a series about a real hikki, there's nothing interesting in a waste of space that just consooms media and faps.Something has to happen, and for that the protagonist simply must go outside.
yes in hindsight the anime is retarded nonsense. the manga is more entertaining, a bit more realistic.and then the novel is just a lot better overall.
>>84577869It's "baby's first social outcast story/anime", it's a story that shows the vices and lifestyle of an hikki/NEET but with none of the actual consequences. It's what Watamote became if it never had the strong start it did.>>84577903>he's afraid of the world.No, he gets outside fine and gets along with strangers fine. He's afraid of failure, but of course that alone isn't interesting enough of a character trait because most people are, even if to varying degrees, so you guys have to make shit up to make the anime/character seem more "edgy" than it actually is.>>84577915>he's also addicted to heroinNo, he takes hallucinogenics, and he doesn't even have an addiction on them.>>84578008>He has an OCD type paranoia where he thinks everyone is laughing and mocking himThat had any serious manifestation the moment he decided to attend an university class. The rest of the time he gets along with strangers fine.>>84578629>and then the novel is just a lot better overall.I don't necessarily disagree with you here, but the novel has definitely the most optimistic narration of the lot, with the manga having the most pessimistic.Don't get me wrong, overall I like NHK, it has its moments and f but it's far from great and that's also because it's way more ordinary that it presents itself to be, both in concept and execution.
>>84578260True, but then they shouldn't have pretended that the story was about an hikki and hikkidom in general then, which is definitely what the narration tells you.The best way to make hikkis relate to a story is to write in the story the social problems they have to face and the psychological problems they carry, you don't need for your protagonist to LITERALLY be an hikki and confine him in his house, that can't make for an actual story unless you're a very expert writer (none in the NHK series was).It's also kinda hilarious how only a few of the side characters were actual social outcasts with serious social/mental problems (the MMO guy and the little brother), so it's not like the story doesn't ACTUALLY touch on these themes. But they definitely aren't the actual focus, even if the anime and its fans pretend so. There's actual anime/manga out there that deal with this stuff properly, and a lot of them aren't even obscure.
>>84578747>The rest of the time he gets along with strangers fine.I think you are missing the point. Most of the time he tried to avoid strangers, it was really when he tried to self improve that he would talk with them before eventually regressing.
>>84578791>Most of the time he tried to avoid strangersNo, before highschool ended he had no such qualms: he knew Yamazaki from school in fact, was part of a club and, in case you "forgot", he fucked his highschool crush as a teen.It's only after that those "problems" started to happen, but Satou is 22, we're talking a 4-years-span here, the last of which overlaps with the period where he tried to self-improve, meaning when he started talking with strangers (and liked them, and got liked back).So no, it's absolutely not "most of the time" in the timespan the story takes place. Again, you guys try to pass this anime/novel/manga as more "edgy", more unusual than it actually is.I'm not saying you shouldn't like it, I do too after all, but don't go around pretending you just watched an avant-garde masterpiece.
>>84578786Is shinji hikki-coded?
>>84577869>as he's literally outsideyou're missing a point by a mile.>It's no wonder retarded zoomers on TikTok love to larp this shit.well they didn't get filtered by an incredibly accessible show so you're the retarded one really.anyway if you're pissed off about the protagonist not being fat and ugly enough for you to relate to, maybe you should read Ressentiment.
>>84579047>anyway if you're pissed off about the protagonist not being fat and ugly enough for you to relate to, maybe you should read Ressentiment.Will do.
>>84577869a story about a real neet isnt very entertaining. im a neet and 90% of my day is spent watching twitch and reading 4chan posts. at the end of the novel he doesnt really end up in a much better place anyway, he just gets a shitty job so he can afford to live but other than that hes still basically alone with no real connections to anyone. if a part 2 were ti be written i wouldnt be surprised if he ends up being a neet again. once you isolate yourself like that you kind of break whatever social connection you ever had for other humans and it never fully comes back. im not sure why that happens but it did to me. there are a couple people i interact with irl for a hobby i do but the reality is if i never saw them again i dont think id care that much, and ive known them for years. i dont really want to be that way but thats just how i am now
This story takes place in 2001/2002. He's not going to be a modern neet talking abput the chads and stacys on discord, retards.
>>84577987>In Japan a delinquent is someone who doesn't take school seriously and is disrespectful or apathetic when dealing with authority figures.Shame is deeply ingrained in the culture and people kill themselves over not integrating properly which makes the guilt over it more palpable Westerners are far too removed from that kind of thing to understand the background noise in those stories
>>84579357>He's not going to be a modern neet talking abput the chads and stacys on discord, retards.Good thing nobody asked for that then, retardo.>>84579261>at the end of the novel he doesnt really end up in a much better place anyway, he just gets a shitty job so he can afford to live but other than that hes still basically alone with no real connections to anyoneThe novel ends with him and Misaki getting together, I don't know what you're talking about (blogpost aside).
>>84577987>>84579454Yeah that's all well and good Ken-sama, but Satou himself identifies as an hikki.
>>84577869it's almost like the story would go nowhere otherwise
>>84577869The bar has dropped A LOT since NHK was written
>baby's first ok what's baby's second then, smartass?
Satou meets an actual hikki who explicitly tells him he's not one. It also has the businesswoman who succeeded in everything Satou failed at using antidepressants and contemplating suicide. I'm sorry you were lied to by everyone including some in this very thread but NHK isn't actually about what you were told it is. Think about who's calling him a hikki and why.
yeah like the guy above said, NHK isnt about a hikki, its about a failed normalfag who stumbled for a few years in life and then became a normalfag again. there is 0 media centering around actual incel NEET hikkis because nobody care about hikki incels. theay are the detritus of society. to society, hikkis arent even worth killing. they just wish all genuinely fucked unfixable hikkis would disappear because they remind them that their just world ideology is fake and sometimes there is nothing you can do to get better.
>>84577869It's parodized to hell if you couldn't tell.
>>84581529as if being successful in this society even matters
>>84581267You will forever be a baby if you can't search for yourself.Go to sleep now, no more googoo gaagaa for you.
>>84577869It has to be that way, you can't make a story about someone who is a full on, nolifer shutin. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting, watching a character gooning to hentai, ordering tendies on uberjeets and drinking while doomscrolling xitter.NHK strikes a good balance, because it still has a lot of relatable elements for shutins like the paranoia or shame from parents, or wondernig what the fuck your future is gonna be, also being a virgin and simping over the slightest attention from a cute girl (ofc getting attention from a cute girl is unrealistic, but I'm saying it's what we'd do, and it's understandable that you need a cute girl in the anime for at least some appeal)I dunno, for me it's the closest I've seen any media come to depicting a depressed, FOMO nolifer behind his peers and wasting all his time on porn and entertainment.
