Men and boys are explicitly discriminated against because they are not protected from mgm and also have no real recourse if it is done to them. a part 2 of this post https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1tcfzhb/comment/olru4ue/ The federal laws and almost all state laws in the United States treat baby girls being circumcised very differently than baby boys being circumcised. Its probably one of the clearest examples of misandryhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/circumcision-oregon-lawsuit-male-genital-b2725383.htmlSeveral men circumcised at birth are suing the state of Oregon for allegedly stealing their bodily autonomy while also arguing that a current genital mutilation law discriminates against boys.California-based attorney Eric Clopper filed the lawsuit last week on behalf of Cecil Mininger and his teenage son, as well as brothers Carter and Landon Moody, in Multnomah County Circuit Court in Portland. The plaintiffs all had their foreskins surgically removed as infants within the state, according to the filing.The 76-page document alleges that boys have been neglected by the state and asks for equal protection under a law that bans female genital mutilation. The current law, it says, which only protects women from genital cutting, is a violation of the state constitutions Equal Rights Amendment and Equal Protection Clause.The suit urges the court to either ban genital cutting procedures for children of any gender or overturn the statute entirely.
>>84581845However, the suit argues that victims of male genital cutting could sue their circumcisers. It claimed that the procedure has become medicalized in the U.S. but provides few health benefits and inhibits healthy sexual function.This lawsuit is about one simple, urgent principle: equal protection under the law, Clopper, who founded Intact Global, a non-profit that says it stands against non-religious genital mutilation that is funding the suit, wrote in a statement on the organizations website Friday.If Oregon protects girls from non-consensual genital cutting, it must protect boys and intersex children too. Anything less is unconstitutional.https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/us_laws_against_fgm_state_by_state/Almost every state in the USA has laws against female circumcision of minors and many states have had laws making it illegal (and a felony) to circumcise a female minor for DECADESFemale circumcision is already illegal and girls who are cut as babies can already sue for what was done to them when they become an adult, just apply the law equally to men too .She already has the legal ability to seek out compensation for that, I just want the law applied equally .So that men also have the ability to get restitution and have legal recourse. Why pay taxes and follow the social contract if police will protect baby girls from being cut but not baby boys? Theyll protect doctors who cut baby boys. women who are circumcised as girls can get literally millions of dollars and in their 20s and then retire very comfortably with her multi million dollar settlement and live comfortably off the backs of hard working broke men who were circumcised as babies and have no legal ability to get reparations or sue their doctors or hospitals.
>>84581847S 130.85 Female genital mutilation.1. A person is guilty of female genital mutilation when:(a) a person knowingly circumcises, excises, or infibulates the wholeor any part of the labia majora or labia minora or clitoris of anotherperson who has not reached eighteen years of age; or(b) being a parent, guardian or other person legally responsible andcharged with the care or custody of a child less than eighteen yearsold, he or she knowingly consents to the circumcision, excision orinfibulation of whole or part of such child`s labia majora or labiaminora or clitoris.2. Such circumcision, excision, or infibulation is not a violation ofthis section if such act is:(a) necessary to the health of the person on whom it is performed, andis performed by a person licensed in the place of its performance as amedical practitioner; or(b) performed on a person in labor or who has just given birth and isperformed for medical purposes connected with that labor or birth by aperson licensed in the place it is performed as a medical practitioner,midwife, or person in training to become such a practitioner or midwife.3. For the purposes of paragraph (a) of subdivision two of thissection, no account shall be taken of the effect on the person on whomsuch procedure is to be performed of any belief on the part of that orany other person that such procedure is required as a matter of customor ritual.Female genital mutilation is a class E felony.New York N.Y. Penal Law 130.85 Effective 11/1/1997Who can women sue if circumcised as baby girl and how much money would they get in USA? What if it was done by doctor with nurses?
>>84581868Women can primarily sue the medical providers (doctor, nurses, hospital/clinic) who performed the procedure via medical malpractice, battery, or related tort claims. FGM (female genital mutilation/circumcision) on a minor is illegal under federal law (18 U.S.C. 116, as amended) and in 41+ states, treated as child abuse with no cultural/religious/parental consent defense in most jurisdictions.https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/us_laws_against_fgm_state_by_state/this is important because routine male infant circumcision is a battery. many lawyers have argued this and they are right. The doctor and assisting nurses/hospital are the Primary targets for civil liability. Performing non-medically necessary FGM on an infant deviates from the standard of care and constitutes negligence or intentional tort (e.g., battery). Many states explicitly allow civil damages in their FGM statutes (e.g., Arizona provides a civil remedy). obviously this applies to mgm too Parents/guardians: Potentially liable for facilitating or consenting, but suing one's own parents is rare, complex (family dynamics, statutes of limitations), and often not the focus. Criminal liability for parents exists in many states.its possible to civilly go after doctor nurses and hospital that performed the surgery but not go after your parents. theres already cases of this with fgm Statute of limitations: Many states extend this for FGM/child abuse victims until years after turning 18 (e.g., 310 years post-18 in states like Arizona, Arkansas).Hospitals often carry large insurance policies, increasing settlement potential. Successful suits could include punitive damages if egregious.
>>84581880Done by doctor with nurses: Strongest case medical malpractice plus battery. Hospitals can be vicariously liable. Informed consent was impossible for an infant, and FGM isn't medically necessary (exceptions exist only for true health needs, like certain surgeries, not ritual "circumcision"). again it should be very obvious how this applies to mgm too. In ny in 2019 would a woman who was circumcised as a baby in 1999 be able to sue?Yes, in 2019 in New York, a woman who was subjected to female genital mutilation ("circumcision") as a baby in 1999 could likely sue under the Child Victims Act (CVA), which took effect that year.https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/S2440Key ReasonsNew York Penal Law 130.85 criminalizes FGM (knowingly circumcising, excising, or infibulating the labia majora/minora or clitoris of a person under 18, or a parent/guardian knowingly consenting to it). It is a class E felony and explicitly falls under Article 130 of the Penal Law (sexual offenses).https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/new-york-penal-code/new-york-penal-code-130-85-genital-mutilation/CPLR 214-g (the civil revival provision of the CVA, signed into law in February 2019) revived previously time-barred civil claims for conduct that would constitute a sexual offense under Article 130 (including 130.85) committed against a child under 18. It allowed suits for physical, psychological, or other injuries from such acts.https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-2/214-g/
I'm not reading all that. Someone shorten it
>>84581887The CVA created a one-time lookback window (roughly August 2019 to August 2021) for filing revived claims, regardless of the victim's age or how long ago the act occurred. A woman ~20 years old in 2019 would have fallen squarely within this window for events from 1999.https://hermanlaw.com/new-york/child-victims-act/ Standard medical malpractice SOL (2.5 years under CPLR 214-a) or battery (1 year) would have long expired by 2019, but the CVA overrode that for qualifying sexual offenses like FGM.https://www.lanierlawfirm.com/new-york/civil-statute-of-limitations/Could she take home 5 million dollars? If the doctor hospital nurses were in on it and its extremely well documented that it happened and was premeditated with lots of papers signed by them and proof the hospital admins knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happenYes, in a strong case with the facts you describe, a multimillion-dollar recovery including potentially $5 million or more net to the plaintiff is realistically possible in New York under the 2019 Child Victims Act framework.https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/new-york-sex-abuse-settlements.html Why This Scenario Strengthens the CasePremeditation, documentation, and institutional knowledge: Signed papers, hospital admin awareness/approval, and involvement of doctor/nurses/hospital create powerful evidence of battery, lack of informed consent (impossible for an infant), negligence, and potentially punitive damages for egregious conduct. This goes beyond standard malpractice into intentional or reckless institutional wrongdoing.CVA applicability: FGM qualifies as a sexual offense under NY Penal Law 130.85, reviving the claim in the 2019 lookback window. Courts treat it as child sexual abuse for civil purposes.https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-2/214-g/
>>84581895Realistic Compensation Ranges in NY CVA/Malpractice CasesNY juries and settlements in strong Child Victims Act cases (especially with documented institutional enabling) have produced:Single-plaintiff verdicts: $5M to $30M+ (e.g., $30M CVA verdict with $15M compensatory + $15M punitive; $13.3M; $5M affirmed on appeal).https://www.blockotoole.com/verdicts-settlements/30-million-ny-child-victims-act-verdict/ Hospital/medical cases: Multi-million averages per plaintiff in mass settlements (e.g., Columbia/NewYork-Presbyterian paid ~$1.3M average per survivor in a large OB-GYN abuse case, with total payouts over $1B across resolutions).https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/new-york-sex-abuse-settlements.htmlMedical malpractice analogs (severe lifelong harm from procedures on infants): Often tens of millions total, with pain-and-suffering components in the millionshttps://porterprotects.com/largest-birth-injury-settlements-new-york-history/
>>84581898$5 million net to her is plausible in an exceptional case with clear lifelong harms (physical scarring, sexual dysfunction, psychological trauma, PTSD, etc.), strong experts, and sympathetic facts. Higher amounts are possible with proven egregious conduct and high damages (economic + non-economic + punitives). Many cases settle confidentially for substantial sums to avoid trial risk.https://jtnylaw.com/2026/02/survivors-act-5-million-verdict-childhood-sexual-abuse-ny/tldr if the law was not literally sexist and was just applied equally and impartially most men alive today (in 2026) who are under the age of about 28 or so and live in / were born in a hospital in at least a handful of states in the United States of America would easily be entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a few million dollars each for what was done to them as a baby. I am not being hyperbolic. obviously if lets conservatively say theres 3 million men in ny who are under the age of 27 and if 60 percent of them were born in and circumcised in a hospital in ny Thats 1.8 million men who are each entitled to a few million dollars each, 3 million dollars each times 1.8 million young ny cut men equals 5.4 TRILLION DOLLARS with a T . thats like 1/6 of the entire usa national debt
>>84581892tldr if the law was not literally sexist and was just applied equally and impartially most men alive today (in 2026) who are under the age of about 28 or so and live in / were born in a hospital in at least a handful of states in the United States of America would easily be entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a few million dollars each for what was done to them as a baby. I am not being hyperbolic. obviously if lets conservatively say theres 3 million men in ny who are under the age of 27 and if 60 percent of them were born in and circumcised in a hospital in ny Thats 1.8 million men who are each entitled to a few million dollars each, 3 million dollars each times 1.8 million young ny cut men equals 5.4 TRILLION DOLLARS with a T . thats like 1/6 of the entire usa national debt
>>84581892it's illegal to perform female genital mutilationit should be illegal to perform make genital mutilationtldr
>>84581913Yes but also if a minor female is cut by a doctor and nurses in a hospital she is literally entitled to millions of dollars Men who have the same thing done to them arent but they should be
>>84581932In the ongoing Hadacheck v State of Oregon case Multnomah County Circuit Judge Melvin Oden Orr denied the states motion to dismiss ruling that the circumcised male plaintiffs had suffered a legitimate injury in fact and possessed proper standing to sue https://bioethicstoday.org/blog/the-case-for-equal-protection-for-all-children-against-forced-genital-cutting-is-moving-forward-full-speed-ahead/#:~:text=The%20Court%20found%20that%20Plaintiffs,in%20a%20court%20of%20law. By legally acknowledging that infant circumcision constitutes an injury in fact the court has already moved the needle past a mere medical disagreement If a court recognizes a lifelong injury inflicted on a non consenting minor based on their sex the logical constitutional conclusion is that those victims should have a path to restitution
I LITERALLY DESERVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TODAY
>>84581845>Men and boys are explicitly discriminated against because they are not protected from mgmParents can easily protect their kids from such medical malfeasance>>84581913Medically unnecessary procedures being imposed on children are wrong. Humans know this intuitively. Take for example picrel, where recently a mother tattooed a dot on her toddler, who wanted a tattoo. She was arrested on charges of assault and child abuse. There was no smoke and mirror obfuscation of "parental consent" and "proxy consent" and "this is what the child wished for" or "he won't remember it" or "it's just a little bit of skin">https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/woman-charged-with-child-abuse-after-allegedly-giving-22-month-old-son-a-tattoo/ar-AA22EqBZSo in the case of religious cosmetic reductive surgeries on the genitalia of children, since there are two sexes, there are two main types. Performed on boys and performed on girls. Africans, Islamic Middle Easterners, and Southeast Asians perform it on girls, and any culture that does it to girls probably also does it to boys. Jews, Americans, Filipinos, etc exclusively do it to boys. The United States government exists to serve the needs of their client groups.Africans, Islamic Middle Easterners, and Southeast Asians are not client groups of the United States. Therefore, cosmetic reductive surgeries on children's genitalia is not permitted if the child is female. Jews are a client group of the US.Therefore circumcision of boys will not be made illegal.Recently, the US flirted with its own academic and corporate ideological apparatuses and made them a client group, and during this time that's when the tranny children controversy appeared. Even though there's not much spiritually different about making surgical alterations to kiddie junk, the prevalence of circumcision vastly dwarfs the tranny problem. It can be concluded that Americans are just slop goyim, and there is no need to try and analyze their behavior.
>>84582030But 2 plus decades ago the internet didnt really exist and boomers are in many cases dumb or brainwashed Its doctors and nurses jobs to educate themselves properly and address their biases and brainwashing before they start cutting babiesI think in many cases parents are responsible parents have been arrested for doing fgm to baby girls or ordering doctors to do it for them I think intactivists might just have to play Minecraft
>>84582069If you can get fired for refusing to do a circumcision then no a doctor or a nurse is not going to sacrifice their livelihood for morality Whereas it's very easy for parents to just step in the way of it, and then nothing happens to anyone >parents have been arrested for doing fgm to baby girls or ordering doctors to do it for them Like I said, the groups that do this aren't client groups of the united states, so this happens to them>I think intactivists might just have to play MinecraftAnd I think you glow like an anglerfish, what of it?
Additionally, were the Court to adopt a saving construction of ORS 163.207 and431A.600 that expanded the statutes protections to all non-medically necessary child genitalcutting, Plaintiffs could vindicate their rights practically by suing their circumcisers under astatutory torts legal theory that is currently available only to female victims of child genitalcutting.B. This case is justiciable under ORS 14.175 since Plaintiffs have standing tochallenge an ongoing policy that is likely to evade future judicial review.In the ongoing Hadacheck v. State of Oregon case, Multnomah County Circuit Judge Melvin Oden-Orr denied the states motion to dismiss, ruling that the circumcised male plaintiffs had suffered a legitimate "injury in fact" and possessed proper standing to sue. https://bioethicstoday.org/blog/the-case-for-equal-protection-for-all-children-against-forced-genital-cutting-is-moving-forward-full-speed-ahead/#:~:text=The%20Court%20found%20that%20Plaintiffs,in%20a%20court%20of%20law. By legally acknowledging that infant circumcision constitutes an "injury in fact," the court has already moved the needle past a mere medical disagreement. If a court recognizes a lifelong injury inflicted on a nonconsenting minor based on their sex, the logical constitutional conclusion is that those victims should have a path to restitution. Heres the 72 page lawsuit from intactivist lawyer eric clopper https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66119b8c4d0c10f1951590fc/67e6d9785f82dc54c6513cb7_2025-03-28%20-%20Hadachek%20v.%20Oregon%20-%20Amended%20Complaint%20(Conformed).pdf
