Why do women want to be "heard" so much? I never thought this was a factor in attraction until my crush hooked up with a short obese guy who apparently "was there and listened", even tho she admitted I'm way closer to her physical type. As a guy being "heard" was never a factor in attraction, you were either in the smash / pass side of the fence, no amount of platonic affection could make me want an ugly chick.
>>84582521Cause most guys are not good people and don't bother to get to know a woman, so its nice when a man seems to really like you and be there for you, its rare
>>84582585Problem is foids tend to freindzone them most of the times and keep them as orbiters. They're the ones they settle down with once Chad gets bored of them.
>>84582623they want a chad who provides those things. thats like striking gold. it doesnt happen. the problem is chads almost always dont, so they settle for less after being pumped and dumped.
>>84582521women dont want to feel used or discarded, being heard means that a person wont just discard you after intimacy, or after being vulnerable. In my own case, its because my feelings were never well received growing up, so I have difficulty being myself or feeling comfortable with people. If I would ever be intimate with someone, I would have to feel heard and seen too.
>>84582693Don't women find it hot when a man mistreats them or is aloof towards them?
>>84582585>>84582623>>84582689>>84582693>>84582702Foids just want chad it doesnt matter how he acts no fucking shit wanting to get to her on a mushy deeper personal level is more attractive to her because it provides security but he can just as easily act like a faggot or criminal and get away with it.
>>84582702Some. But thats just because the chase can be attractive for some. For others they like to be chased. Some dont like it if he is kind to all girls, some donte care. Its all preference. I would say younger girls like the aloof guys, and "bagging" him. Personally I hate non chalant people. I cant stand people who disrespect me or treat me like nothing or go on and off.
>>84582693A year ago I would call this bs, but I saw this happen with me and one chick.
>>84583209Tell me about it. Youre probably one of those /fit/izens that gets pussy and is a man whore
>>84582585>>84582693women literally gen an ick when man listens to them
>>84582521any guy could tell me he loves me, only a good guy would listen to my problemshonestly I'm not even attracted to a guy if he's not willing to get to know me on a deep level
>>84582521Hey I remember you you posted about that situation the other day. I believed I replied saying how it's crazy people will be fine with a woman they're actively pursuing fucking other guys along the way.
>>84582521complicated evolutionary story nobody actually cares, run this through ai:has to do with multiple different factors working together, women get sex proximity activated automatic wetness but it also doesn't come with subjective arousal, both only works together if she is not during period and there are repeated close interaction contexts to the target person. women also have super strong intrasexual competitive drive but not in default like guys have, only after their pussy wetness automation has been habituated with time that she'd do anything indirectly possible to get other women off of the target person, including increased attraction and sex with the target person to keep them busy. the random bs focus on personality is because there is no default desire unless sex proximity activated after habituation, so they are trying to connect to non-gender trait ways which then will convert to gender specific attraction later. Being heard and anything like that has to do with degree to she senses she has control over intersexual competition fending off. another framing is 'feeling safe', 'wanting him to be obsessed with her'. Men were important source of protein and fat that is needed to make milk and brain of kids, not necessarily directly through the guy but all the social connection linked to him that could support and feed her during and after pregnancy. Another aspect of this depending on how far back you wanna look is infanticide which made humans semi-monogamous which is a part. Paired 'obsessed' male will stick around protecting kid from being murdered. Killing the kid was useful in the past to speed up a woman's next birthing cycle. Even in the case she is still paired, adding another wife/gf or attempt towards that wastes current linked resources that could've gone towards the survival of the kid and her. She wants proof of specific interest to her and no one else, but guys don't work like that but as long as it functionally work out then it's good
>>84582693Lol yeah women want to feel special and chosen it doesn't matter if a guy is nice, hes nice to everyone. They wpuld rather feel seen and understood much like anybody. Whats the point if hes going to move on to the next girl like you're nothing. The guy being obese and unattractive doesn't matter since appearance preferences are subjective
>>84582521normies in general practically stop existing unless they are gossiping with another normies. nearly all women are normies. they literally go insane if they are not constantly acknowledge by some external element since they have no internal processes
