Does /r9k/ like chess? Im fairly new to it and not very good (ELO is 550) but ive been enjoying it lately. Its pretty fun and makes you feel smart when you win. It also makes you feel dumb when you lose...
>>84585584yes I like it a lot. I am very good at it, too.
>>84585584i like chess, i play a few games everyday, i'm currently 1300 on bullet. you'll definitely get better with practice. you should learn some openings from youtube or something, that can take you at least another 400 points up pretty quickly
>>84585584No I absolutely hate the game due to one single rule. That rule being stalemate. It being a draw makes no sense and if I'm not mistaken there's no historical backing behind it either it was some dumb change made later in the games life. So either reward the player who evaded the lose with a win for being smart and playing in a way that prevented there king from being captured, or reward the player that made their king have no other option but to go for it by overwhelming them. I don't care which option it is at the end of the day but there is no logical reason this game should end in a draw unless both players just die of a heart attack at this same time mid match or something like that
>>84585620except that idea falls apart when you remember that most chess games have time limitsRETARD
low elo retard stop hanging your pieces
>>84585634And lots of other games do too your point is retard?
chess is fun when youre in the mid game but every time i tried it i just did random shit at the start and probably fucked myself over from not knowing established strategies since it's basically impossible to predict a good move based on a clear board
>>84585584Chess is actually so fucking boring it's kind of insane I just slam pieces (ha) over and over and then get infuriated when the opponent takes more than a second to do something Pool is just the right level of complexity and physicality for a board game in my opinion
>>84585620>I absolutely hate chess due to a rule that only applies in about 2% of all gamesJust say you suck.~90% of draws in chess are either because of repeating the position or because both players agree the position is drawn and don't want to continue playing.
>>84585723Never actually gave the game enough of a shake to not suck at it. I'd rather just play a not shit game like almost any other game out there like Go
I dont fucking get it. I can beat bots rated all the way up to 1500 but i cant beat a single real human wtf.
>>84585728>Never actually gave the game enough of a shake to not suck at itI figured since you're seething about a rule that rarely applies. I can guess that what happened is you got bodied a few dozen times, started tilting, and then fucked up by stalemating in a winning position because you weren't paying attention.
>>84585813NTA but the fact that stalemate is a thing is actually very fucking important. If it was not then many KP v K endgames would be winning for the side with the extra pawn that would otherwise have only been good enough for a draw. And of course that means many positions where you can trade into one such drawn position are in question.
>>84585723>2%The better you get, the more it happens. It's some kind of pro meta strategy in tournaments where you try to win as white and draw as black. >>84585728I like Go. The board actually looks cool in the endgame instead of chess nerds going "oh there's two rooks and a pawn how elegant"
>>84585584Once I learned you need an early exposure to be good at it I lost all interest
>>84585813Nah just don't feel like playing a game where majority of it is memorizing openings. And I know you're going to say oh no it isn't but a fair chunk of the professionals that are infinitely better than your retarded ass have been on record as saying that. Love the fact you think you re so smart for playing the game though it's so nice to have being able to play a rather boring board game when you have nothing else going on in your life
>>84585931which professionals have said that? all memorizing openings does is pretty much break the skill ceiling for 900 rated playerswhy are you so assmad about chess lol
>>84585897>The better you get, the more it happens. It's some kind of pro meta strategy in tournaments where you try to win as white and draw as black.You should probably read what you're replying to before you hit post, anon. Draws happen more often at higher levels, yes, but anon and I are talking about stalemates specifically.~2% of all drawn games are draws because of stalemate.So this is already a rare occurrence and since amateur games are usually decisive, anon is upset about a rule that maybe comes up in about 1/200 games or so for the average casual player.>>84585931You're mad.
>>84585946Use Google retard >>84585956Nah
>>84585975you made a claim that's false. burden of proof is on youi accept your concession though
>>84585956So you're saying if stalemate wasn't a rule, then GMs would still agree to draws as often as they do? >eh I don't feel like playing today so let's call it a drawwtf
>>84585619It would probably be a good idea to study some openings. I tend to just move the knights out first but sometimes that can gum things up and stop me from developing other pieces.
>>84585946People take chess pretty seriously. Ive seen lots of people crash out over it.
>>84585979Sorry seems we're in a stalemate so nice draw bud :^)
>>84586015sorry pal but you already resigned. no take backsies
>>84586026Nope you're free to Google it yourself to prove me wrong but you didn't feel like it so you end in a draw sorry your stupid rule ended things this way :(
Baby girl if you're here, I'm gonna confess to you: I'm not good at all at playing chess. My e4 bluff was just that, a bluff.
>>84585986You're the one talking about GMs and draw rates, anon. The only thing I was doing was making fun of anon for this post >>84585620 crying about how his 300 Elo chess experience was ruined because of a rare rule that almost never applies except to give the side with less material a chance to scrape out a draw.
>>84586044post-game trash talking doesn't work when you already resigned
I think its cool how on the app you can play against people from all over the world. The most common flag ive seen however has been indian.
>>84586056Rare rules are like, underpromoting, cases where you can't castle, en passantYou have to account for the possibility of stalemate every time you study endgames
>>84586302>the rule isn't rare enough!Underpromotion isn't even a rule. It's an action you take. Promotion of any kind is the rule, it's only underpromoting when you choose to promote to a piece other than the queen.If you're going to be this much of a sperg about just how rare a rule should be to qualify as rare, at least get the terms right.
>>84585584Played ~60 games. Weirdly was at 450 ELO, but then dropped drastically due to not knowing any openings, just moving pieces at this point. Fun game, I will be looking into it more.
Anyone wanna play a quick game of 5+0?I'm ~1000 elo, but I haven't played in several months.https://lichess.org/cINPZInn
>>84586393good game bro, have a good night
>>84586351the ability to underpromote is a rule>nooo you can't promote to a rook, that's against the rules>actually, the rules say you can do that
How the fuck do draws even work? A few times now I've been blindsided by the game ending abruptly when I feel like I've got them on the ropes.
>>84585620>i basically dont like the way its drawish or something
>>84586492the rule is you can promote to any pieceunderpromotion isn't a rule, there are no conditions where you are required to underpromote, it's just the name for when you choose to promote to a piece other than a queenthis is like trying to argue the king's pawn opening is a rule because it's the name for when you choose to play 1.e4
>>84586511>3 move repetition>50 move rule>insufficient checkmate material>mutual agreement>stalemate (player whose turn it is has no legal moves and king is not currently in check)
>>84586542I didnt know repetition forced a draw. I guess that would explain it. I gotta stop chasing the king back and forth then.
>>84586539No, it's like trying to argue that as a rule, you can move a pawn up two spaces the first time you move it. Or that when you put your opponent in a position where he cannot escape check, it's checkmate.Also I will repeat:You have to account for the possibility of stalemate every time you study endgames.Take King+Queen vs King. If you only copy the enemy king's movement with your queen, then eventually you'll put your opponent in stalemate. If you only have a king and two knights, then the best you can hope for is trapping your opponent into a stalemate.
>>84586578>No, it's like trying to argue that as a rule, blah blah blahGenuinely retarded>Also I will repeat:That's no different than from needing to be aware of attempts at preventing castling in the early game, which you previously said was rare.You are sperging out over how rare things should be to count as rare, you have no idea of the definition of rules, and even your own ideas of rare things are inconsistently applied. Do you have any other retarded bullshit you want to say or are you finished?
>>84585584No. Bobby Fischer and Paul Morphy were right. I played for a few days, got 1000 blitz rating on chess.com and stopped playing because I was getting queue anxiety worse than in any other game I've ever played despite being much worse.
>>84586653>I was getting queue anxiety worse than in any other game I've ever played despite being much worseSame, but I keep playing because when I do win, it feels like I mentally raped my opponent and the euphoria is better than cumming.
>>84585931Memorizing openings is part of chess, but it's inaccurate to say that it's the majority of the game. Some of the worlds best complain about the importance of memorization but it's only because the have mastered the rest of the game. If you are under 2500 you can play pretty much anything in the opening, the fractions of pawns you are fighting over will not be what decides the game.The great thing about chess is that it gets harder as the game progresses. The opening is the easiest and most forgiving phase. The middlegame is tactical, attacking and strategic, this is where games are usually won or lost. The endgame is the most difficult phase of the game, this is where the real skill gap is. Complete beginners will look at pic related and think it's an easy draw. But Magnus Carlsen beat a 2700+ rated player from this position in a classical game. Endgames are incomprehensibly difficult and most people don't understand the importance of this phase of the game.
